Summary/Minutes from today's irc support sig meeting (2012-02-16)
by Kevin Fenzi
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#fedora-meeting: IRC Support SIG (2012-02-16)
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Meeting started by nirik at 17:00:00 UTC. The full logs are available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-02-16/irc-support-si...
Meeting summary
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* init process (nirik, 17:00:01)
* Week in review (nirik, 17:05:07)
* LINK: http://fedora.theglaserfamily.org/ircstats/fedora-weekly.html
(nirik, 17:05:07)
* Tickets (nirik, 17:06:59)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/report/1 (nirik,
17:07:00)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/ticket/100 (nirik,
17:07:13)
* suggest more politeness when pointing people to eol or other
resources. (nirik, 17:15:50)
* Processes (nirik, 17:17:51)
* AGREED: will enact the v4 proposal, and adjust moving forward.
(nirik, 17:26:21)
* ACTION: nirik will codify on the wiki in a few days. (nirik,
17:26:33)
* Open Floor (nirik, 17:26:39)
Meeting ended at 17:31:06 UTC.
Action Items
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* nirik will codify on the wiki in a few days.
Action Items, by person
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* nirik
* nirik will codify on the wiki in a few days.
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
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* nirik (52)
* Sonar_Gal (16)
* dcr226 (9)
* fenrus02 (6)
* FranciscoD (5)
* Sonar_Guy (3)
* zodbot (3)
* N3LRX (2)
* bodhizazen (1)
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17:00:00 <nirik> #startmeeting IRC Support SIG (2012-02-16)
17:00:00 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Feb 16 17:00:00 2012 UTC. The chair is nirik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
17:00:00 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic.
17:00:01 <nirik> #meetingname irc-support-sig
17:00:01 <nirik> #topic init process
17:00:01 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'irc-support-sig'
17:00:35 * N3LRX is here
17:01:07 * Sonar_Gal
17:01:17 * fenrus02 is a zombie .. n33z moar brainz
17:01:29 <nirik> huh.
17:01:31 * FranciscoD is here to watch
17:01:41 * nirik will wait until 5 after to start to let folks wander in.
17:03:04 * bodhizazen is semi-here =)
17:03:43 * dcr226 is Loading ████████████ 99%
17:04:04 <nirik> ha
17:04:54 <dcr226> looked better in gedit ;-)
17:05:03 <FranciscoD> showoff :P
17:05:05 <nirik> ok, lets go ahead and dive in...
17:05:07 <nirik> #topic Week in review
17:05:07 <nirik> http://fedora.theglaserfamily.org/ircstats/fedora-weekly.html
17:05:18 <nirik> pretty typical week again...
17:05:26 <nirik> anyone have anything they would like to note or shout out about?
17:06:02 <fenrus02> i have a long list of things to shout about. none related to this meeting however
17:06:12 <nirik> indeed.
17:06:32 <dcr226> fenrus02, not enough lunch meetings this week? feeling grumpy?
17:06:35 * dcr226 hides
17:06:45 <fenrus02> dcr226, see -social for why
17:06:48 <Sonar_Gal> not enough bacon
17:06:49 <nirik> more martini's at lunch meetings needed? ;)
17:06:55 <nirik> anyhow... moving along then...
17:06:56 <fenrus02> Sonar_Gal, clearly that is the problem
17:06:59 <nirik> #topic Tickets
17:07:00 <nirik> https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/report/1
17:07:06 <nirik> we have one ticket this week...
17:07:13 <nirik> https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/ticket/100
17:07:25 <nirik> eol fedora questions and questions from non-fedora users
17:08:33 * nirik re-reads.
17:09:28 <nirik> I think really the only thing we can try and do here is be more polite... even to people who are offtopic/notusingfedora/eol
17:09:43 <Sonar_Gal> many people don't use fedora but if someone is asking if a specific package/program is in the repo's may mean more potential users in time.
17:10:33 <nirik> yep
17:10:44 <Sonar_Gal> can always send them to another channel or tell them where they can look to see what repo's there are
17:11:03 <nirik> yeah. I agree.
17:12:16 <nirik> so, any other specific ideas or recommendations we can come up with here?
17:12:50 <Sonar_Gal> Just be more polite and send them to where they need to be. Other channels or a link to the repo list
17:13:16 * Sonar_Guy
17:13:23 <nirik> yeah. I think fedora-eol is pretty much dead right?
17:13:38 <Sonar_Gal> I think so.
17:13:40 <nirik> perhaps we should nuke it, but then I don't know where to tell folks to try and get info.
17:13:52 <dcr226> google
17:14:10 <nirik> yeah.
17:14:13 <FranciscoD> + "please update to a current release, the bug may have been fixed already"
17:14:15 <Sonar_Gal> google or even fedora forum probably has old links and such
17:14:32 <nirik> FranciscoD: yeah, we always should suggest that. Some people resist for whatever reason.
17:14:38 <nirik> Or they want to, but haven't yet.
17:15:02 <Sonar_Gal> if it was a new packager he may not have gotten all the info from pervious packager
17:15:44 <Sonar_Gal> Not sure if anything is set up for that kind of problem
17:15:50 <nirik> #info suggest more politeness when pointing people to eol or other resources.
17:16:08 <Sonar_Gal> +1
17:16:18 <Sonar_Guy> +1
17:16:22 <FranciscoD> +1
17:16:30 <nirik> ok, would someone care to add info and close the ticket? (I can, since I was also planning on commenting, but never got to it)
17:16:39 <FranciscoD> politeness at all times really, whatever the case may be
17:17:17 <Sonar_Gal> nirik, ok you can or I can
17:17:36 <nirik> Sonar_Gal: go ahead. I can add my comment when I get a chance...
17:17:41 <Sonar_Gal> ok
17:17:46 <nirik> thanks
17:17:51 <nirik> #topic Processes
17:18:01 <nirik> So, we had a proposal v4 on voting stuff...
17:18:20 <nirik> I know EvilBob had some concerns still... but he's not able to make it today and hasn't sent them to the list yet.
17:18:38 <nirik> Did we want to wait another week ? or just enact this version and modify from there?
17:19:37 <Sonar_Guy> +1 to enact this version then modify as needed!
17:19:44 <nirik> I'm open to either I guess... but I just want us to get something moving/done. ;)
17:19:52 <Sonar_Gal> +1 enact then modify
17:19:54 <fenrus02> +1 accept and move on
17:20:58 <N3LRX> +1 for v4
17:21:10 <Sonar_Gal> There are going to be issues with anything we do but we can always modify at a later date
17:21:27 <nirik> yeah, I'm 100% sure we will come up with some changes needed...
17:21:33 <fenrus02> even if you solve world hunger, someone will still complain.
17:21:34 <nirik> but at least this way we have a framework in place
17:21:57 <nirik> any other votes/concerns?
17:23:31 * Sonar_Gal smacks dcr226 to get his attention
17:23:47 <dcr226> eh, whut?
17:23:50 <nirik> Southern_Gentlem ? dcr226 ?
17:23:58 <dcr226> nah, I don't mind
17:25:16 <nirik> ok, lets go ahead and enact that now and then adjust based on issues.
17:25:23 <nirik> would someone care to codify it into the wiki?
17:25:33 * nirik could, but might be a while before I get time to.
17:25:48 <dcr226> nah, I don't mind: Doing three things at once, do your thing...stop deliberating and do something
17:25:53 <dcr226> :-)
17:26:21 <nirik> #agreed will enact the v4 proposal, and adjust moving forward.
17:26:33 <nirik> #action nirik will codify on the wiki in a few days.
17:26:39 <nirik> #topic Open Floor
17:26:44 <nirik> anything for open floor?
17:27:24 <Sonar_Gal> Not that I can think of at this time
17:29:39 * nirik will close out in a minute then
17:31:03 <nirik> thanks for coming everyone!
17:31:06 <nirik> #endmeeting
12 years, 2 months
FAmNA Meeting (15 February 2012)
by inode0
#fedora-meeting: FAmNA
Meeting started by inode0 at 02:00:23 UTC
(http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-02-15/famna.2012-02-...).
Meeting summary
1.
1. is eating bacon cheeseburger pizza during this meating
(nb, 02:00:25)
2. Roll Call (inode0, 02:00:40)
1. we like steaks at meatings (nb, 02:00:40)
3. Announcements (inode0, 02:02:31)
1. bpowell01 is stepping down as a shipper (nb, 02:02:59)
2. If anyone has expenses for which they need reimbursement
from the past year, now is the time to produce those receipts and so
forth (rbergeron, 02:03:44)
4. Tickets (inode0, 02:07:02)
1. ACTION: kk4ewt will send table covers and banners to LFNE
(inode0, 02:13:23)
2. ACTION: inode0 will follow up and help Mario get tickets
processed and make sure he gets event resources (inode0, 02:18:44)
3. ACTION: rbergeron goes for prodding along of flyer for
pycon :) (inode0, 02:23:39)
4. ACTION: inode0 will check with abadger1999 about volume
and assortment of other material (inode0, 02:24:11)
5. ACTION: nb to follow up with bpepple regarding ILF
planning (inode0, 02:28:54)
6. ACTION: rbergeron will ping suehle and inode0 will ping
makfinsky about POSSCON (inode0, 02:31:31)
7. http://libreplanet.org/wiki/Main_Page (rbergeron, 02:51:30)
8. ACTION: inode0 will hunt down Greg Kerr and lure him into
going to a conference for us (inode0, 02:55:16)
9. this is an event I was hoping to get some feedback from
ke4qqq about (rbergeron, 02:56:13)
10. this conference has two parts - first 3 days are design
summit, for contributors, mostly about setting direction of the
project for next 6 months (rbergeron, 02:57:16)
11. second half is for users, potential contributors, etc. -
and there typically have been a few booths, at least at the one i
previously attended (rbergeron, 02:57:47)
5. Open Floor (inode0, 03:02:30)
1. http://lac.linuxaudio.org/2012/ (Jsandys, 03:07:04)
Meeting ended at 03:12:56 UTC
(http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-02-15/famna.2012-02-...).
Action items
1. kk4ewt will send table covers and banners to LFNE
2. inode0 will follow up and help Mario get tickets processed and
make sure he gets event resources
3. rbergeron goes for prodding along of flyer for pycon :)
4. inode0 will check with abadger1999 about volume and assortment
of other material
5. nb to follow up with bpepple regarding ILF planning
6. rbergeron will ping suehle and inode0 will ping makfinsky about POSSCON
7. inode0 will hunt down Greg Kerr and lure him into going to a
conference for us
Action items, by person
1. inode0
1. inode0 will follow up and help Mario get tickets processed
and make sure he gets event resources
2. inode0 will check with abadger1999 about volume and
assortment of other material
3. rbergeron will ping suehle and inode0 will ping makfinsky
about POSSCON
4. inode0 will hunt down Greg Kerr and lure him into going to
a conference for us
2. kk4ewt
1. kk4ewt will send table covers and banners to LFNE
3. nb
1. nb to follow up with bpepple regarding ILF planning
4. rbergeron
1. rbergeron goes for prodding along of flyer for pycon :)
2. rbergeron will ping suehle and inode0 will ping makfinsky
about POSSCON
People present (lines said)
1. inode0 (121)
2. rbergeron (82)
3. nb (19)
4. zodbot (16)
5. Jsandys (14)
6. kk4ewt (5)
7. award3535 (2)
8. SGS (1)
9. MarkDude (1)
10. jsmith (1)
John
12 years, 2 months
FESCo Meeting Minutes (2012-02-13)
by Stephen Gallagher
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#fedora-meeting: FESCO (2012-02-13)
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Meeting started by sgallagh at 18:00:33 UTC. The full logs are available
at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-02-13/fesco.2012-02-...
.
Meeting summary
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* init process (sgallagh, 18:00:33)
* #799 Issues with maintainer responsiveness (clamav) (sgallagh,
18:02:14)
* AGREED: Ask ensc to document (at least by a link) the packaging
rationale inside the package; close ticket and let philipp reopen
with a specific proposal (sgallagh, 18:22:16)
* #801 Feature Freeze Exception: Thermostat (sgallagh, 18:23:39)
* AGREED: Thermostat is granted a Feature Exception (sgallagh,
18:31:05)
* #802 F17 Features - progress at Feature Freeze (sgallagh, 18:31:23)
* AGREED: move mkdumprd, eclipse juno to shiny-marketing features -
those are leaf nodes (sgallagh, 18:39:13)
* ACTION: FESCo members will review the critical Features and ask
owners for updates (sgallagh, 19:09:15)
* Next week's chair (sgallagh, 19:09:27)
* ACTION: nirik to chair Feb 27 meeting (sgallagh, 19:12:49)
* Open Floor (sgallagh, 19:12:56)
* AGREED: close the ticket with thanks for the update, and no action
currently (sgallagh, 19:23:23)
Meeting ended at 19:36:11 UTC.
Action Items
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* FESCo members will review the critical Features and ask owners for
updates
* nirik to chair Feb 27 meeting
Action Items, by person
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* nirik
* nirik to chair Feb 27 meeting
* **UNASSIGNED**
* FESCo members will review the critical Features and ask owners for
updates
People Present (lines said)
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* sgallagh (124)
* mitr (61)
* limburgher (61)
* pjones (37)
* notting (37)
* mjg59 (32)
* nirik (25)
* t8m (18)
* mmaslano (13)
* abadger1999 (11)
* rbergeron (10)
* nb (7)
* zodbot (7)
* omajid (3)
* tibbs (2)
* vanaltj (1)
* ctyler (1)
* dbhole (1)
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12 years, 2 months
Docs meeting summary -- 13 Feb 2012
by Ben Cotton
Minutes:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-02-13/fedora_docs.20...
Minutes (text):
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-02-13/fedora_docs.20...
Log:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-02-13/fedora_docs.20...
Meeting started by bcotton at 14:00:03 UTC. The full logs are available
at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-02-13/fedora_docs.20...
Meeting summary
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* Roll Call (bcotton, 14:00:18)
* Release Notes (bcotton, 14:05:20)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Release_Notes_schedule
(bcotton, 14:05:28)
* Beats now open, take a beat, or re-take previous beat by removing *
from your name at (bcotton, 14:05:40)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Documentation_Beats (bcotton,
14:05:48)
* ACTION: bcotton to ping docs ml one last time about beat writers
(bcotton, 14:06:51)
* Guide Status (bcotton, 14:14:26)
* LINK:
http://rbergero.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-17/f-17-docs-tree-tasks.html
(bcotton, 14:14:35)
* Outstanding BZ Tickets (bcotton, 14:18:23)
* LINK: http://tinyurl.com/lbrq84 (bcotton, 14:18:31)
* Open floor discussion (bcotton, 14:19:07)
* ACTION: sparks to find out who will be managing the release
calendars (bcotton, 14:23:28)
Meeting ended at 14:26:12 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* bcotton to ping docs ml one last time about beat writers
* sparks to find out who will be managing the release calendars
Action Items, by person
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* bcotton
* bcotton to ping docs ml one last time about beat writers
* **UNASSIGNED**
* sparks to find out who will be managing the release calendars
People Present (lines said)
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* bcotton (33)
* suehle (12)
* Sparks (11)
* jjmcd (9)
* zodbot (3)
* jsmith (2)
* ke4qqq (1)
--
Ben Cotton
Fedora Docs Leader
12 years, 2 months
Summary/Minutes from today's Fedora Infrastructure meeting (2012-02-09)
by Kevin Fenzi
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#fedora-meeting: Infrastructure (2012-02-09)
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Meeting started by nirik at 19:00:01 UTC. The full logs are available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-02-09/infrastructure...
Meeting summary
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* Robot Roll Call (nirik, 19:00:01)
* New folks introductions and apprentice tasks/feedback (nirik,
19:01:44)
* 2 factor auth status (nirik, 19:05:32)
* LINK:
http://lists.canonical.org/pipermail/kragen-hacks/2002-February/000312.html
(skvidal, 19:07:16)
* Staging re-work status (nirik, 19:08:20)
* LINK: http://fpaste.org/RusC/ (nirik, 19:09:56)
* Applications status / discussion (nirik, 19:11:11)
* we currently have just 9 rhel5 instances. 8 of them app servers and
1 a virthost that some app servers are on. ;) (nirik, 19:17:21)
* Upcoming tasks (nirik, 19:22:34)
* 2012-02-10 - drop inactive fi-apprentices (nirik, 19:22:37)
* 2012-02-14 to 2012-02-28 - F17 Alpha Freeze (nirik, 19:22:37)
* 2012-02-28 - F17alpha release day (nirik, 19:22:37)
* 2012-03-01 - nag fi-apprentices. (nirik, 19:22:38)
* 2012-03-10 - drop inactive fi-apprentices (nirik, 19:22:38)
* 2012-03-20 to 2012-04-03 - F17 Beta Freeze (nirik, 19:22:38)
* 2012-04-01 - nag fi-apprentices. (nirik, 19:22:40)
* 2012-04-03 - F17Beta release day (nirik, 19:22:42)
* Open Floor (nirik, 19:27:07)
Meeting ended at 19:39:58 UTC.
Action Items
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Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
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* nirik (92)
* skvidal (30)
* lmacken (20)
* abadger1999 (14)
* pingou (12)
* danstar (6)
* zodbot (4)
* CodeBlock (4)
* threebean (2)
* ianweller (1)
* wsterling (1)
* smooge (1)
* mdomsch (1)
* Smilers_ (1)
* ricky (0)
* dgilmore (0)
* Codeblock (0)
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19:00:01 <nirik> #startmeeting Infrastructure (2012-02-09)
19:00:01 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Feb 9 19:00:01 2012 UTC. The chair is nirik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
19:00:01 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic.
19:00:01 <nirik> #meetingname infrastructure
19:00:01 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'infrastructure'
19:00:01 <nirik> #topic Robot Roll Call
19:00:01 <nirik> #chair smooge skvidal Codeblock ricky nirik abadger1999 lmacken dgilmore mdomsch
19:00:01 <zodbot> Current chairs: Codeblock abadger1999 dgilmore lmacken mdomsch nirik ricky skvidal smooge
19:00:09 * skvidal is here
19:00:17 <ianweller> crooooooooooooow
19:00:18 * pingou pingou
19:00:23 <CodeBlock> here
19:00:39 <danstar> here
19:00:39 <mdomsch> here
19:00:41 <Smilers_> here
19:00:45 * abadger1999 here
19:00:57 <nirik> lots of folks. ;) nice.
19:01:42 <nirik> ok, lets go ahead then...
19:01:44 <nirik> #topic New folks introductions and apprentice tasks/feedback
19:01:54 <nirik> Any new folks like to introduce themselves ?
19:02:02 <pingou> lots of new folks on the list recently
19:02:05 <nirik> or apprentices like to talk about issues / tickets/ concnerns?
19:02:11 <danstar> i can start with intro :)
19:02:13 <nirik> yeah, there sure seems to be.
19:02:21 <nirik> danstar: welcome. Go ahead
19:02:30 <danstar> well, hi all again :)
19:02:54 <danstar> i'm a long time linux user, going into sysadmining more recently
19:03:22 <danstar> learning to recertify as RHSCA and then RHCE, have lots of free time so i'd like to help if possible
19:03:25 <nirik> excellent.
19:03:39 <nirik> see me after the meeting over in #fedora-admin and we can get you setup.
19:03:47 <danstar> ok
19:04:14 <smooge> here
19:04:18 * lmacken
19:04:19 <nirik> any other new folks like to introduce themselves?
19:05:16 <nirik> ok, lets move along then...
19:05:32 <nirik> #topic 2 factor auth status
19:05:59 <nirik> I talked with herlo some, I need to meet up and see exactly where we are. I'd like to get something in place before too long for our initial goal.
19:06:16 <nirik> I've been pointed to yet another pam module...
19:06:19 <nirik> pam_httpd
19:06:24 <nirik> sorry, pam_http
19:06:31 <skvidal> what does it do differently than the others?
19:06:37 <nirik> so, we have pam_otp, pam_http and pam_url
19:06:46 <skvidal> yay!
19:06:47 <nirik> I'm not sure, Ive not looked at it yet
19:07:07 <skvidal> umm
19:07:09 <skvidal> how OLD is it?
19:07:16 <skvidal> http://lists.canonical.org/pipermail/kragen-hacks/2002-February/000312.html
19:07:18 <nirik> Ideally we pick whichever one is smallest, does what we want and has someone working on it.
19:07:25 <nirik> it's ancient, but I have an updated one.
19:07:32 <nirik> I can fwd it to you if you want to look.
19:07:36 <skvidal> ah ha https://github.com/beatgammit/pam-http
19:08:06 <nirik> anyhow, hopefully in the next few weeks we can get something going.
19:08:20 <nirik> #topic Staging re-work status
19:08:31 <nirik> we kinda stalled out on this, but I think we know the way we want it to work now.
19:08:39 <skvidal> how many boxes left in staging, now?
19:08:43 <nirik> it's just a matter of setting up the application part in prod
19:08:54 * nirik looks at the last list from averi
19:09:56 <nirik> http://fpaste.org/RusC/
19:10:12 <nirik> we were on the app machines.
19:10:58 <nirik> anyhow, just need to keep plugging away at it.
19:11:11 <nirik> #topic Applications status / discussion
19:11:33 <nirik> lmacken / threebean / abadger1999 / pingou: any app status reports from this week?
19:11:54 <nirik> I really plan to start setting up a prod packaging setup soon. I keep getting sidetracked.
19:12:09 <nirik> comments on the url plan on the list would be welcome
19:12:17 <abadger1999> threebean has been working on the moksha API some.
19:12:42 <threebean> yeah, no changes to production anytime soon but I'm cleaning out some of the extra hangers-on in the moksha API
19:12:43 <lmacken> as for bodhi, I have been fixing a lot of bugs, and pushed out a new release last week. I'm prepping another release this week as well. Then [hopefully] I'll be full-steam towards bodhi v2.0.
19:13:02 <lmacken> yeah, threebean and I are also working on a major refactoring of moksha
19:13:12 <threebean> the plan -> https://fedorahosted.org/moksha/wiki/2.0
19:13:43 <pingou> I tried to work on getting a new plugin for FAS, might interest lmacken for bodhi at some point (it reworks the flash() function)
19:13:52 <nirik> cool. Did you want to finish that before pushing tagger/packager to production? or doesn't matter?
19:14:07 <abadger1999> Yeah, so we get a flash function that can do warnings and errors.
19:14:18 <lmacken> nirik: nah, the moksha refactoring shouldn't hold anything else back
19:14:20 * wsterling here
19:14:24 <nirik> lmacken: ok, cool.
19:14:25 <lmacken> pingou: oh, interesting.
19:14:29 <nirik> welcome wsterling
19:14:43 <abadger1999> EasyFix item if someone wants -- take the captcha implementation in current FAS and split it into its own package.
19:15:02 <pingou> abadger1999: I was wondering if we should put the code somewhere for this ? fh ?
19:15:24 <abadger1999> It's based on an existing standalone package, so whoever takes it will be able to compare to that to see what they're missing.
19:15:25 <pingou> as in fork it completely, since we already hacked it quite a bit
19:15:33 <abadger1999> pingou: Yeah, I agree.
19:15:45 <pingou> abadger1999: I
19:15:52 <pingou> I'll request the fh project then
19:15:54 <nirik> lmacken: oh, you said something a while back and I might have misunderstood, but you said you could make community (old) work on rhel6 pretty easily? or should we just retire community(old) when we get packager/tagger into production?
19:17:07 <lmacken> nirik: yes, I could probably get it working on RHEL6 pretty quickly (probably just need to spin up a new moksha). As for retiring it, I think we could once packages goes to production...
19:17:17 <lmacken> my only concern is the Statistics section is still very useful (to me at least)
19:17:21 <nirik> #info we currently have just 9 rhel5 instances. 8 of them app servers and 1 a virthost that some app servers are on. ;)
19:17:42 <pingou> nice :)
19:17:56 <nirik> well, if we can get it running on 6, we can start replacing app servers... which would be nice. ;)
19:18:05 <lmacken> nirik: I'll take a look
19:18:10 <nirik> and then just leave it around for a bit.
19:18:14 <lmacken> yeah, sounds good.
19:18:39 <nirik> also, bodhi is still not showing right on app05/06 (our two rhel6 app boxes)
19:19:09 <nirik> any other app news?
19:19:31 <lmacken> nirik: wow, yeah... not sure what that is all about... [Thu Feb 09 19:10:18 2012] [error] File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/kid/pars
19:19:35 <lmacken> er.py", line 180, in _track
19:19:37 <lmacken> [Thu Feb 09 19:10:18 2012] [error] ev, item = p
19:19:40 <lmacken> [Thu Feb 09 19:10:18 2012] [error] ValueError: too many values to unpack
19:19:42 * lmacken will look into rhel6 fixes for both bodhi and fcomm
19:19:58 <nirik> yeah I think it might have been working at one time then perhaps an update messed it up? not sure.
19:20:10 <lmacken> ohh, it's kid+genshi fighting, I think
19:20:16 <lmacken> could be related to the new python-fedora update
19:20:34 <nirik> fun.
19:20:37 <abadger1999> we could also put old community on its own server until we're ready to retire.
19:20:46 * nirik is fine either way.
19:20:54 <abadger1999> lmacken: More likely, the new TurboGears (in RHEL6 vs RHEL5)
19:21:09 <lmacken> abadger1999: oh, that kid error I'm seeing is from smolt actually
19:21:11 <nirik> I just want to start replacing apps (and bapp01)
19:21:35 <lmacken> oh, the bodhi RHEL6 issue is a trivial fix.
19:21:41 <abadger1999> lmacken: ah. Okay -- there were some smolt bugs that I've never gotten enough time to go back and look at.
19:21:42 <nirik> cool. ;)
19:22:09 <nirik> ok, shall I move along then?
19:22:34 <nirik> #topic Upcoming tasks
19:22:37 <nirik> #info 2012-02-10 - drop inactive fi-apprentices
19:22:37 <nirik> #info 2012-02-14 to 2012-02-28 - F17 Alpha Freeze
19:22:37 <nirik> #info 2012-02-28 - F17alpha release day
19:22:38 <nirik> #info 2012-03-01 - nag fi-apprentices.
19:22:38 <nirik> #info 2012-03-10 - drop inactive fi-apprentices
19:22:38 <nirik> #info 2012-03-20 to 2012-04-03 - F17 Beta Freeze
19:22:40 <nirik> #info 2012-04-01 - nag fi-apprentices.
19:22:42 <nirik> #info 2012-04-03 - F17Beta release day
19:22:44 <nirik> we have a freeze coming up.
19:23:01 <nirik> I'll probibly file alpha tickets soon...
19:23:14 * CodeBlock is waiting for the day when nirik pastes that and excess-floods off freenode. ;)
19:23:23 <nirik> anyone have any other upcoming tasks or items?
19:23:27 <pingou> CodeBlock: you wish :)
19:23:30 <nirik> CodeBlock: I'm sure it will happen. :)
19:23:46 <abadger1999> nirik: When would be a good day(s) to update python-fedora?
19:24:19 <nirik> most anytime, but probibly eariler in the week? monday/tuesday?
19:24:45 <abadger1999> nirik: Okay, I'll deploy a new python-fedora Monday of next week then.
19:24:54 <abadger1999> And have the whole day to fix/revert if it breaks stuff.
19:25:03 <nirik> ok. thats right before freeze, but should be ok hopefully.
19:25:49 <abadger1999> If you'd rather, I can put it off... Just have some pseudo-security fixes in there.
19:25:56 <nirik> naw, monday sounds fine.
19:26:02 <abadger1999> Sounds good.
19:26:10 <lmacken> nirik: ok, bodhi fixed on app5-6, but they can't ping db-bodhi now.
19:26:27 <nirik> lmacken: they probibly need hosts entries... those are the two non phx2 ones.
19:26:33 <lmacken> ah
19:26:40 <nirik> abadger1999: we can also roll up any other pending updates before the freeze.
19:27:07 <nirik> #topic Open Floor
19:27:13 <nirik> anyone have anything for open floor?
19:27:41 <skvidal> yah
19:27:49 <skvidal> I just chatted with rmonk about pam-http
19:27:59 <skvidal> seems reasonable enough
19:28:06 <skvidal> exactly the same framework we're describing
19:28:18 <nirik> ok.
19:28:20 <skvidal> it seems like the only thing holding us up at all is the cgi which checks the otp
19:28:25 <skvidal> or yubikey
19:28:26 <skvidal> or whatever
19:28:29 <nirik> yep.
19:28:33 <skvidal> where should that live?
19:28:43 <nirik> well, and picking which one we use... which I don't care about.
19:29:01 <nirik> puppet? or it's own project? or part of pam_otp ?
19:29:14 <nirik> or you mean where does it run in our setup?
19:29:28 <skvidal> our setup
19:29:32 <skvidal> which server should host the cgi
19:29:55 <nirik> fas* I think...
19:30:10 <nirik> then it can use localhost urls to hit ykserv or whatever other store it needs?
19:30:29 <skvidal> okay
19:31:02 <nirik> you want to work on the cgi?
19:31:24 <skvidal> I want to get euca set first - I'm trying to be done with the junk instance this week
19:31:35 <skvidal> but yah - I guess I will
19:31:44 <nirik> ok, that would be great. ;)
19:31:49 <nirik> thanks
19:31:59 <skvidal> don't thank me, yet
19:32:10 <nirik> anyone have anything else?
19:32:22 <skvidal> a couple
19:32:32 <skvidal> does anyone want a relatively light-weight scripting job to take on?
19:32:47 <CodeBlock> skvidal: such as? :)
19:33:03 <pingou> EasyFix :)
19:33:09 <skvidal> the cron job to check ssh keys
19:33:26 <skvidal> I checked in all the fas-ssh key checking up to my personal repo
19:33:30 <nirik> yeah, might file a ticket on it easyfix marked...
19:33:42 * nirik notes we could use more easyfix stuff.
19:33:45 <pingou> does it work btw ? EasyFix
19:33:57 <skvidal> and now it just needs a cron job to check against a specific date to make sure no one has uploaded an old key
19:34:39 <skvidal> CodeBlock: the other item that won't take a lot of time but some focus is making it so we can use the infrabot user to add info to puppet and for the nagios-generatin script that wsterling wrote
19:35:01 <nirik> pingou: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/report/14 for the query, but if you mean do we get fixes... sometimes? ;)
19:35:31 <pingou> nirik: yeah it was more as in "do people/new comers look at easyfix?"
19:36:14 <nirik> I think we could do better describing them/adding info, but I think we assume people will ask if they don't understand the ticket.
19:37:30 <nirik> skvidal: so, file those as easyfix and we will see if we can find some takers? unless someone here wants them right now?
19:37:44 <skvidal> ok
19:38:31 <nirik> anything else? or shall we call it a meeting?
19:38:48 <CodeBlock> If nobody takes the easyfixes I can hack on them a bit. I'm planning on doing some infra-hosts scripts hacking anyway (as per skvidal saying they need work)
19:38:59 <skvidal> CodeBlock: cool
19:39:30 <nirik> excellent.
19:39:55 <nirik> ok, thanks for coming everyone. :) Lets continue over in #fedora-admin and/or #fedora-apps and/or #fedora-noc
19:39:58 <nirik> #endmeeting
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