[KFI] Meeting Minutes for 26th April, 2012 IRC Meeting
by Prima Yogi Loviniltra
Hey folks,
Thanks to whoever attended the meeting tonight. To those who missed it,
following is the summary;
Minutes:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-id/2012-04-25/fedora-id.2012-04-2...
Minutes (text):
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-id/2012-04-25/fedora-id.2012-04-2...
Log:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-id/2012-04-25/fedora-id.2012-04-2...
==================
#fedora-id Meeting
==================
Meeting started by arifiauo at 17:52:10 UTC. The full logs are available
athttp://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-id/2012-04-25/fedora-id.2012-04...
.
Meeting summary
---------------
* ACTION: menunggu kabar dari Eko Ikhyar maks. 24 jam. (arifiauo,
17:53:09)
* Penerjemahan (arifiauo, 17:53:39)
* Penerjemahan (arifiauo, 17:54:08)
* Penerjemahan (arifiauo, 17:54:41)
* kalau mau menerjemahkan lebih baik milih yang udah merah-merah :D
itu harus di prioritaskan. (arifiauo, 18:10:36)
* IDEA: Ada yang membuat pengingat di milis L10N Indonesia (arifiauo,
18:19:46)
* LINK:
http://rbergero.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-17/f-17-trans-tasks.html
(arifiauo, 18:21:18)
* ACTION: jurank_dankkal membuat pengingat di milis L10N Indonesia
mengenai batas waktu penerjemahan. (arifiauo, 18:27:57)
Meeting ended at 18:31:17 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* menunggu kabar dari Eko Ikhyar maks. 24 jam.
* jurank_dankkal membuat pengingat di milis L10N Indonesia mengenai
batas waktu penerjemahan.
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* jurank_dankkal
* jurank_dankkal membuat pengingat di milis L10N Indonesia mengenai
batas waktu penerjemahan.
* **UNASSIGNED**
* menunggu kabar dari Eko Ikhyar maks. 24 jam.
People Present (lines said)
---------------------------
* arifiauo (35)
* jurank_dankkal (28)
* sentabi (18)
* renodesper (9)
* zodbot (5)
* wajatmaka (2)
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12 years
FAmNA Meeting (25 April 2012)
by inode0
======================
#fedora-meeting: FAmNA
======================
Meeting started by inode0 at 01:00:25 UTC. The full logs are available
at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-04-25/famna.2012-04-...
.
Meeting summary
---------------
* Roll Call (inode0, 01:00:53)
* Announcements (inode0, 01:05:08)
* Tickets (inode0, 01:09:24)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/famna/report/9 (inode0, 01:09:35)
* #11 (LinuxFest Northwest 2012, Apr 28-29, Bellingham, WA) – FAmNA
general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/11 (inode0,
01:10:27)
* #12 (Penguicon 2012, Apr 27-29, Dearborn. MI) – FAmNA general trac -
https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/12 (inode0, 01:23:21)
* #33 (2012 Fedora Merchandise Order) – FAmNA general trac -
https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/33 (inode0, 01:27:16)
* LINK: http://noname.math.vt.edu/Fedoraunity/case_badges.pdf
(kk4ewt, 01:32:44)
* AGREED: FAmNA will order 10,000 case badges and ship 2,000 to EMEA,
LATAM, and APAC (expect cost ~$2,000) (inode0, 01:38:13)
* AGREED: FAmNA will order 30,000 laptop stickers (20,000 for Red Hat
use and 10,000 for ambassador use) for around $3,000 ($1,000
ambassador budget) (inode0, 01:49:45)
* ACTION: nb will order the 10,000 case badges (nb, 01:53:28)
* ACTION: StabbyMc: keep rbergeron in the loop on sticker re-order and
git 'er done. (StabbyMc_, 01:53:48)
* we will take a 3 minute break (but can discuss in the interim) (nb,
01:57:09)
* AGREED: FAmNA will order 500 Beefy Miracle buttons for approximately
$150 for use at SELF Food Drive and elsewhere (inode0, 02:09:59)
* ACTION: graphite6 will follow up on design team ticket through
ordering buttons (graphite6, 02:11:29)
* AGREED: FAmNA will order 1500 Fedora buttons for ~$300 (inode0,
02:14:45)
* ACTION: StabbyMc: Quotes for 3K and 5K pens. (StabbyMc_, 02:17:07)
* AGREED: FAmNA to order 3k pens for ~$1500, assuming quote is still
within that range (rbergeron, 02:20:03)
* #21 (SouthEast LinuxFest 2012, Jun 8-10, Charlotte, NC) – FAmNA
general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/21 (inode0,
02:25:06)
* LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SELF_2012 (nb, 02:25:54)
* planning to get 3500 live media, 1500 install media (nb, 02:28:09)
* AGREED: FAmNA will fund $1,200 for various SELF expenses in addition
to the $500 sponsorship previously funded (inode0, 02:38:57)
* AGREED: FAmNA will also revisit SELF later for possible additional
expenses (inode0, 02:39:24)
* Open Floor (inode0, 02:39:43)
* Closed Floor (inode0, 02:39:47)
Meeting ended at 02:42:41 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* nb will order the 10,000 case badges
* StabbyMc: keep rbergeron in the loop on sticker re-order and git 'er
done.
* graphite6 will follow up on design team ticket through ordering
buttons
* StabbyMc: Quotes for 3K and 5K pens.
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* graphite6
* graphite6 will follow up on design team ticket through ordering
buttons
* nb
* nb will order the 10,000 case badges
* rbergeron
* StabbyMc: keep rbergeron in the loop on sticker re-order and git 'er
done.
* **UNASSIGNED**
* StabbyMc: Quotes for 3K and 5K pens.
People Present (lines said)
---------------------------
* inode0 (168)
* rbergeron (143)
* nb (88)
* kk4ewt (71)
* graphite6 (42)
* StabbyMc_ (24)
* Jsandys (19)
* award3535 (15)
* zodbot (14)
* Sonar_Gal (10)
* ianweller (9)
* rrix (8)
* vwbusguy (8)
* herlo (5)
* jsmith (3)
* SGS (0)
John
12 years
2012-04-23 - Fedora QA Meeting - recap
by Adam Williamson
As always, minutes and IRC transcript available on the wiki at
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20120423
Next meeting is scheduled for 2012-04-30 at 1500 UTC in #fedora-meeting.
If you have topics you think we should bring up at the meeting, please
add them to the Wiki page at
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20120430 . Thanks!
TOPIC: Previous meeting follow-up
=======================================================================
* tflink to ping gnome boxes people about test day on thursday
- test day was delayed till 2012-05-03
* kparal to start thread on test@ regarding use of RCs between
GOLD and release - thread is here[1], kparal has requested
releng to keep the composes around for longer
* tflink to send out testing request for f15 livecd-tools to
test@ - tflink full of fail and update is still in -testing,
so he'd better do it this week or get fired again
TOPIC: Fedora 17 Final TC planning
=======================================================================
* TC1 is scheduled for today, we will try to pull in a new
anaconda build and new bits for mactel support
TOPIC: Test Day report
=======================================================================
* JBoss Test Day 2012-04-17[2] looks like it went off okay
* Live image writing 2012-04-19[3] produced a few useful
results and a good skeleton for future events
TOPIC: Upcoming QA events
=======================================================================
* Fedora 17 Final TC1 on 2012-04-23 (scheduled)
* ABRT Test Day on 2012-04-26[4], page does not look to be
ready yet
* Final blocker review #2 on 2012-04-27
TOPIC: AutoQA update
=======================================================================
* rats_install was broken by noloader change to anaconda, and
needs a new autoqa release to get fixed, but the issue is
identified and the fix is known
TOPIC: Open floor
=======================================================================
* tflink: Google Summer of Code results are announced soon, we
have two projects which might get approved
ACTION ITEMS
=======================================================================
* tflink to send out testing request for f15 livecd-tools to
test@
* kparal to poke abrt team about the test day planned for 04-26
and ensure they're ready in time or it is postponed
[1] http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2012-April/106961.html
[2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2012-04-17_JBoss_Application_Server
[3] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2012-04-19_liveusb-tools
[4] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2012-04-26_ABRT_and_deduplication_...
--
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora
http://www.happyassassin.net
12 years
Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2012-04-23)
by Matthew Garrett
===================================
#fedora-meeting: FESCO (2012-04-23)
===================================
Meeting started by mjg59 at 17:00:08 UTC. The full logs are available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-04-23/fesco.2012-04-...
.
Meeting summary
---------------
* init process (mjg59, 17:00:08)
* #829 New proven packagers request: Pavel Alexeev (hubbitus)
.fesco 829 (mjg59, 17:02:29)
* #838 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/firewalld-default
status (mjg59, 17:03:01)
* AGREED: Feature should be deferred to F18, appropriate changes made
to F17 (+7, -0) (mjg59, 17:36:45)
* #839 Proposal for revitalizing the packager sponsorship model
(mjg59, 17:37:50)
* AGREED: Raise proposal on devel@, bring it back to fesco once
there's been wider discussion (mjg59, 17:47:08)
* #830 define requirements for secondary arch promotion (mjg59,
17:47:32)
* LINK:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Secondary_Architecture_Promotion_Requiremen...
(mjg59, 17:49:08)
* AGREED: Secondary architecture promotion requirements are approved,
we'll continue followup discussions with secondary architectures
over plans to implement them (mjg59, 18:15:20)
* Next week's chair (mjg59, 18:17:02)
* AGREED: limburgher chairs next week (mjg59, 18:19:11)
* Open Floor (mjg59, 18:19:15)
Meeting ended at 18:22:00 UTC.
Action Items
------------
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
---------------------------
* mjg59 (116)
* mitr (56)
* nirik (48)
* jonmasters (42)
* pjones (41)
* twoerner (33)
* notting (30)
* sgallagh (29)
* limburgher (24)
* tibbs (20)
* t8m (16)
* bconoboy (12)
* zodbot (9)
* mmaslano (7)
* jwb (4)
* adamw (3)
* gholms (3)
* cmurf (1)
* pknirsch (1)
--
Matthew Garrett | mjg59(a)srcf.ucam.org
12 years
Docs meeting summary -- 23 April 2012
by Ben Cotton
Meeting summary
---------------
* Roll Call (bcotton, 14:00:15)
* Follow up on last week's action items (bcotton, 14:05:34)
* ACTION: randomuser to file a bug against RN for user-mounted media
or just add the content (bcotton, 14:06:06)
* Release Notes (bcotton, 14:06:12)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Release_Notes_schedule
(bcotton, 14:06:20)
* ACTION: jjmcd_ to update RN schedule (bcotton, 14:07:52)
* randomuser did an outstanding job on the Tech Notes (bcotton,
14:08:37)
* Guide Status (bcotton, 14:11:56)
* LINK:
http://rbergero.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-17/f-17-docs-tree-tasks.html
(bcotton, 14:12:04)
* Open Help Conference (bcotton, 14:19:42)
* LINK: http://openhelpconference.com (bcotton, 14:19:52)
* Open Help Conference is Aug 11-15 in Cincinnati, OH (bcotton,
14:20:00)
* Outstanding BZ Tickets (bcotton, 14:21:47)
* LINK: http://tinyurl.com/lbrq84 (bcotton, 14:21:56)
* Open floor discussion (bcotton, 14:23:01)
* shaunm would like to see someone present Publican at the OHC
(bcotton, 14:35:52)
Meeting ended at 14:53:07 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* randomuser to file a bug against RN for user-mounted media or just add
the content
* jjmcd_ to update RN schedule
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* jjmcd_
* jjmcd_ to update RN schedule
* randomuser
* randomuser to file a bug against RN for user-mounted media or just
add the content
People Present (lines said)
---------------------------
* bcotton (45)
* jjmcd_ (24)
* pkovar (17)
* shaunm (13)
* cmurf (9)
* claneys (6)
* jhradilek (4)
* jsmith (4)
* zodbot (3)
* chuckf (1)
Minutes:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-04-23/fedora_docs.20...
Minutes (text):
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-04-23/fedora_docs.20...
Log:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-04-23/fedora_docs.20...
--
Ben Cotton
Fedora Docs Leader
12 years
2012-04-16 - Fedora QA Meeting - recap
by Adam Williamson
As always, minutes and IRC transcript available on the wiki at
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20120416
Next meeting is scheduled for 2012-04-23 at 1500 UTC in #fedora-meeting.
If you have topics you think we should bring up at the meeting, please
add them to the Wiki page at
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20120423 . Thanks!
TOPIC: Previous meeting follow-up
=======================================================================
* adamw to send formal proposal for preupgrade criteria
adjustment to the list: this was done[1]
TOPIC: Fedora 17 Beta retrospective
=======================================================================
* Please add all thoughts on Beta to the Retrospective page[2]
TOPIC: Test Day report
=======================================================================
* Turnout for the KDE 4.8 Test Day 2012-04-10[3] was good
* Unsure about results of Virtualization Test Day 2012-04-12[4]
TOPIC: Upcoming QA events
=======================================================================
* Beta release 2012-04-17
* Final blocker review #1 2012-04-20
* JBoss Test Day 2012-04-17[5] looks ready to go
* GNOME Boxes Test Day 2012-04-19[6] page looks ready but
status of Boxes itself was uncertain: tflink to check with
the maintainers
TOPIC: AutoQA update
=======================================================================
* rats_install change to run against updates and
updates-testing repositories has been submitted, pending
review
* emails to autoqa-results are now "failure only" - passing
results only sent to bodhi and resultsdb
TOPIC: Open floor
=======================================================================
* kparal noted that 'stage' mirror where TCs/RCs live is
cleaned quite aggressively: some discussion of this, agreed
kparal should start a mailing list thread to get more info on
whether there are valid use cases to justify keeping TCs/RCs
around longer
* livecd-tools-15.12-1.fc15 is still in updates-testing (needed
to write F17 images correctly): needs karma to go stable
ACTION ITEMS
=======================================================================
* tflink to ping gnome boxes people about test day on thursday
* kparal to start thread on test@ regarding use of RCs between
GOLD and release
* tflink to send out testing request for f15 livecd-tools to
test@
[1] http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2012-April/106741.html
[2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_17_QA_Retrospective
[3] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2012-04-10_KDE_4.8
[4] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2012-04-12_Virtualization_Test_Day
[5] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2012-04-17_JBoss_Application_Server
[6] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2012-04-19_Gnome_Boxes
--
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora
http://www.happyassassin.net
12 years
Fedora Videos meeting logs: Saturday April 21 2012
by Ankur Sinha
Hello!
Meeting minutes:
----------------
* Fedora Video Meeting - PRIZE (thunderbirdtr, 15:59:19)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Videos/FedoraVideos_Contest_Intro/Outro
(thunderbirdtr, 16:11:27)
* Contest time : 30 days (thunderbirdtr, 16:13:19)
* Checking Materials After Constest time : 5-10 days (thunderbirdtr,
16:13:38)
* All Constest TIME : 40 days (thunderbirdtr, 16:13:48)
* Constest Submissions Time : 5 Days (thunderbirdtr, 16:15:44)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Videos/FedoraVideos_Contest_Intro/Outro
(graphite6, 16:21:24)
* participants must have an FAS account and should agree to the FPCA
(FranciscoD, 16:36:53)
* ACTION: thunderbirdtr remember to add "who can participate" section
in the rules (FranciscoD, 16:37:43)
* ACTION: FranciscoD ask fudcon KL to save one mug + swag for
fedora-videos
contest (FranciscoD, 16:45:36)
* ACTION: graphite6 ask NA to save one mug + swag for fedora-videos
contest (FranciscoD, 16:48:16)
* ACTION: thunderbirdtr ask EMEA to save one mug + swag for
fedora-videos contest (FranciscoD, 16:48:29)
* everyone report about prize status to thunderbirdtr before next
meeting on Thursday 26th april (FranciscoD, 16:55:18)
* ACTION: niteshnarayanlal graphite6 get all publicity planned before
next meeting Thursday 26th april (FranciscoD, 16:56:17)
* FranciscoD run around and help everyone (FranciscoD, 16:56:27)
* "status check" meeting on Tuesday (FranciscoD, 16:58:12)
* Fedora Video Meeting (thunderbirdtr, 16:58:52)
* ACTION: FranciscoD send logs to lists (FranciscoD, 17:02:23)
* ACTION: FranciscoD send meeting reminder for Tuesday meeting
(FranciscoD, 17:02:32)
* ACTION: FranciscoD make agenda for next meetings (FranciscoD,
17:03:11)
* Fedora Video Meeting - Open Floor (thunderbirdtr, 17:04:57)
Meeting ended at 17:05:46 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* thunderbirdtr remember to add "who can participate" section in the
rules
* FranciscoD ask fudcon KL to save one mug for fedora-videos contest
* graphite6 ask NA to save one mug + swag for fedora-videos contest
* thunderbirdtr ask EMEA to save one mug + swag for fedora-videos
contest
* niteshnarayanlal graphite6 get all publicity planned before next
meeting Thursday 26th april
* FranciscoD send logs to lists
* FranciscoD send meeting reminder for Tuesday meeting
* FranciscoD make agenda for next meetings
Links:
------
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-04-21/fedora-meeting...
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-04-21/fedora-meeting... http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-04-21/fedora-meeting...
--
Thanks,
Regards,
Ankur: "FranciscoD"
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ankursinha
http://dodoincfedora.wordpress.com/
12 years
[Ambassadors][Logs] A friendly reminder, the next weekly APAC meeting is on Saturday, April 21st, 2012 at 04:00 UTC. :)
by Ankur Sinha
On Thu, 2012-04-19 at 03:43 -0400, David Ramsey wrote:
>
> Hello Everyone,
> A friendly reminder, the next weekly APAC meeting is on Saturday,
> April 21st, 2012 at 04:00 UTC. :)
Hello!
Meeting summary
---------------
* LINK:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:APAC_Ambassadors_2012-04-21#Agenda
(dramsey, 04:01:14)
* Ambassador Pinging (dramsey, 04:01:21)
* Review *ACTION* items from the last meeting (dramsey, 04:03:31)
* ACTION: FranciscoD mail relevant folks with survey ideas (bckurera,
04:05:11)
* ACTION: bckurera add more ideas into things need to be discussed f2f
at FUDCon KL (bckurera, 04:05:51)
* ACTION: bckurera to work on video to elaborate the importance of
apac-trac (bckurera, 04:06:00)
* ACTION: bckurera talk to infra about -india trac situation
(bckurera, 04:06:09)
* ACTION: all think of amount of buttons that should be produced under
famsco budget, get back in next meeting (bckurera, 04:12:47)
* LINK:
http://www.custompins.com/homepage_update/corporate-gallery.htm
(VICODAN_, 04:14:36)
* LINK: http://inode0.fedorapeople.org/swag/fedora-buttons.jpg
(inode0, 04:14:41)
* ACTION: all think of amount of buttons that should be produced under
famsco budget, get back in next meeting (bckurera, 04:27:20)
* APAC Events and Status of F17 Release Parties (dramsey) (bckurera,
04:28:20)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events#FY13_Q1_.28March_2012_-_May_2012.29_4
(dramsey, 04:28:43)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F17_release_events (dramsey,
04:28:57)
* LINK:
http://rbergero.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-17/f-17-ambassadors-tasks.html
(dramsey, 04:29:19)
* LINK: http://i.imgur.com/So0Pc.png (VICODAN_, 04:31:46)
* LINK: http://i.imgur.com/TQNAE.png (VICODAN_, 04:32:43)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/23 (zerng07,
04:34:43)
* Review APAC trac tickets (bckurera, 04:35:59)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/23 (bckurera,
04:36:11)
* Open Floor (bckurera, 04:52:43)
* LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings
(bckurera, 05:02:27)
* ACTION: VICODAN_ email harish on details about button transport
(FranciscoD, 05:09:46)
Meeting ended at 05:11:19 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* FranciscoD mail relevant folks with survey ideas
* bckurera add more ideas into things need to be discussed f2f at FUDCon
KL
* bckurera to work on video to elaborate the importance of apac-trac
* bckurera talk to infra about -india trac situation
* all think of amount of buttons that should be produced under famsco
budget, get back in next meeting
* all think of amount of buttons that should be produced under famsco
budget, get back in next meeting
* VICODAN_ email harish on details about button transport
Links
-------
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-04-21/apac.2012-04-2...
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-04-21/apac.2012-04-2...
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-04-21/apac.2012-04-2...
--
Thanks,
Regards,
Ankur: "FranciscoD"
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ankursinha
http://dodoincfedora.wordpress.com/
12 years
Fedora Board Recap 2012-04-18
by Toshio Kuratomi
Executive Summary
The Fedora Board had a public IRC meeting on Wednesday. We barely had
quorum si we stuck largely to discussing the F18 naming election which
needed to be done soon. Toshio also announced a first draft of policy to
make the Board less of a Single Point of Failure and sent the draft to the
advisory board list for comment.
=========================================
#fedora-meeting: Fedora Board IRC Meeting
=========================================
Meeting started by abadger1999 at 18:32:59 UTC. The full logs are
available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-04-18/fedora_board_i...
.
Meeting summary
---------------
* Roll Call (abadger1999, 18:33:17)
* gomix, ke4qqq, gomix, pbrobinson, rdieter, and rbergeron won't be
here today (abadger1999, 18:34:56)
* Announcements (abadger1999, 18:35:50)
* congratulations to everyone who helped get Fedora 17 beta out the
door yesterday (abadger1999, 18:37:36)
* Open Floor (abadger1999, 18:38:35)
* Open tickets (abadger1999, 18:46:19)
* Ticket 130, make the Board less of a single point of failure
(abadger1999, 18:47:31)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Toshio/Board_single_point_of_failure
(abadger1999, 18:47:59)
* ACTION: abadger199 to take ownership of sending the draft to
advisory-board for comments (abadger1999, 18:49:48)
* Fedora 18 Name Election (abadger1999, 18:51:16)
* dates for the election (abadger1999, 18:52:57)
* Fedora 18 naming election will run from April 20th through end of
day April 26th (UTC) (abadger1999, 18:56:20)
* choices for the "Continuing to have release names" poll (abadger1999,
19:03:53)
* Fedora 18 proposed names are here:
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting/about/f18-name (abadger1999,
19:29:31)
* ACTION: abadger1999 to create the poll with two options * Stop
having release names [0|1] * Keep release names (possibly
changing how they're chosen) [0|1] (abadger1999, 19:55:18)
Meeting ended at 19:55:38 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* abadger199 to take ownership of sending the draft to advisory-board
for comments
* abadger1999 to create the poll with two options * Stop having release
names [0|1] * Keep release names (possibly changing how they're
chosen) [0|1]
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* abadger1999
* abadger1999 to create the poll with two options * Stop having
release names [0|1] * Keep release names (possibly changing how
they're chosen) [0|1]
* **UNASSIGNED**
* abadger199 to take ownership of sending the draft to advisory-board
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by Tim Flink
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Meeting summary
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* Roll Call (tflink, 17:01:06)
* Introduction (tflink, 17:15:26)
* Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and
nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor
the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have
bugs. (tflink, 17:15:41)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Current_Release_Blockers
(tflink, 17:16:10)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting
(tflink, 17:16:43)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_17_Final_Release_Criteria
(tflink, 17:17:05)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_17_Beta_Release_Criteria
(tflink, 17:17:12)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_17_Alpha_Release_Criteria
(tflink, 17:17:16)
* 31 proposed blockers (tflink, 17:17:37)
* 5 accepted blockers (tflink, 17:17:37)
* 10 proposed NTH (tflink, 17:17:37)
* (755335) Shutting down while auto-updating breaks the system (tflink,
17:21:08)
* LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=755335 (tflink,
17:21:08)
* Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 17:21:08)
* AGREED: - 755335 - AcceptedBlocker - The installed system must be
able to download and install updates with yum and the default
graphical package manager in all release-blocking desktops (tflink,
17:33:55)
* (810530) PackageKit locks out yum way too often & for too long
(tflink, 17:34:08)
* LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=810530 (tflink,
17:34:08)
* Proposed Blocker, ASSIGNED (tflink, 17:34:08)
* AGREED: - 810530 - RejectedBlocker RejectedNTH - While an annoyance,
this doesn't hit any of the F17 release criteria and doesn't seem
wise to take as an NTH fix (tflink, 17:40:11)
* (737508) grub2 cannot install when /boot is md and first partition
starts at sector 63 (tflink, 17:41:38)
* LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=737508 (tflink,
17:41:41)
* Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 17:41:44)
* AGREED: - 737508 - RejectedBlocker - While this bug does affect
dual-booting with windows - it's using a non-standard partition
layout and was deemed too much of a corner case to take this as a
blocker (tflink, 17:53:08)
* (748209) KeyError: '/boot/efi': anaconda will try to do an EFI install
if there is an existing EFI system partition but it has not been set
as /boot/efi (tflink, 17:53:49)
* LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=748209 (tflink,
17:53:52)
* Proposed Blocker, ON_QA (tflink, 17:53:54)
* AGREED: - 748209 - RejectedBlocker - This is too much of a corner
case to block release for. Making a mistake in custom partitioning
is required in order to hit this and it only affects EFI systems
with pre-existing installs (tflink, 18:00:01)
* (784828) boot option 'noselinux' doesn't work (tflink, 18:00:12)
* LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=784828 (tflink,
18:00:12)
* Proposed Blocker, ASSIGNED (tflink, 18:00:12)
* AGREED: - 784828 - RejectedBlocker - There are no release criteria
around being able to install w/o SELinux and using 'selinux=0' is an
acceptable workaround (tflink, 18:07:18)
* (790348) If specified repo= doesn't contain package repository, fall
back to default online repos (tflink, 18:07:32)
* LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=790348 (tflink,
18:07:35)
* Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 18:07:38)
* AGREED: - 790348 - AcceptedBlocker - It must be possible to install
by booting the installation kernel directly, including via PXE, and
correctly specifying a remote source for the installer itself, using
whichever protocols are required to work for package retrieval at
the current phase (Alpha, Beta, Final). This must work if the remote
source is not a complete repository but contains only the files
necessary for the installer itself to run. (tflink, 18:13:17)
* (800609) maximum window size is 800x600, should be full screen
(tflink, 18:13:23)
* LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=800609 (tflink,
18:13:26)
* Proposed Blocker, MODIFIED (tflink, 18:13:28)
* 800609 has been fixed and closed - it doesn't need to be evaluated
as a blocker any more (tflink, 18:21:40)
* (804846) dracut fails to retrieve network kickstart file, possibly
PXE-specific, timing issue (tflink, 18:22:13)
* LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=804846 (tflink,
18:22:17)
* Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 18:22:19)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Anaconda/Options (adamw,
18:27:15)
* AGREED: - 804846 - We need more data on this before voting on it -
it would be nice if the reporters could all test with as close to
the same setup as possible (tflink, 18:34:23)
* (806931) "network --device link --activate" in kickstart inside
initrd.img breaks anaconda (tflink, 18:34:34)
* LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=806931 (tflink,
18:34:37)
* Proposed Blocker, ASSIGNED (tflink, 18:34:39)
* AGREED: - 806931 - RejectedBlocker - This does not hit any of the
release criteria as currently written - if the criteria change to
make this a blocker, please re-propose (tflink, 18:46:05)
* (811242) PXE and repo=nfs or repo=nfsiso freezes installer (tflink,
18:47:46)
* LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=811242 (tflink,
18:47:46)
* Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 18:47:46)
* AGREED: - 811242 - AcceptedBlocker - It must be possible to install
by booting the installation kernel directly, including via PXE, and
correctly specifying a remote source for the installer itself, using
whichever protocols are required to work for package retrieval at
the current phase (Alpha, Beta, Final). This must work if the remote
source is not a complete repository but contains only the files
necessary for the installer itself to run. (tflink, 18:52:23)
* (814643) "Words" corrupting (all) odt documents. (tflink, 18:52:36)
* LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=814643 (tflink,
18:52:37)
* Proposed Blocker, MODIFIED (tflink, 18:52:37)
* AGREED: - 814643 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F17
final release criteria "All applications listed under the
Applications menu or category must withstand a basic functionality
test and not crash after a few minutes of normal use. They must also
have working Help and Help -> About menu items" for KDE (tflink,
18:58:32)
* (802381) Port Printers panel to FirewallD1 API (tflink, 18:58:37)
* LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=802381 (tflink,
18:58:39)
* Proposed Blocker, MODIFIED (tflink, 18:58:42)
* AGREED: - 802381 - RejectedBlocker - This doesn't hit any release
criteria for F17 and could be fixed with an update (tflink,
19:03:05)
* (748920) Setting back time breaks boot (tflink, 19:03:08)
* LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=748920 (tflink,
19:03:11)
* Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 19:03:13)
* AGREED: - 748920 - We need more information and opinions from devel
before making a decision on this since it's not a clear violation of
criteria but is still an ugly failure mode (tflink, 19:13:33)
* (808759) firewall-applet - Icon could not be loaded (tflink,
19:13:54)
* LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=808759 (tflink,
19:13:54)
* Proposed Blocker, MODIFIED (tflink, 19:13:54)
* AGREED: - 808759 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F17
final release criterion: "All elements of the default panel (or
equivalent) configuration in all release-blocking desktops must
function correctly in common use" (tflink, 19:20:18)
* (814696) When installing, after reboot only black screen with "X"
cursor shows up instead of firstboot (tflink, 19:20:35)
* LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=814696 (tflink,
19:20:38)
* Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 19:20:40)
* AGREED: - 814696 - We need more information and re-testing on this
before deciding on blocker status (tflink, 19:25:48)
* (814220) Logomarks should be removed and replaced with text (tflink,
19:26:12)
* LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=814220 (tflink,
19:26:12)
* Proposed Blocker, MODIFIED (tflink, 19:26:12)
* AGREED: - 814220 - RejectedBlocker - The blocker process does not
cover legal issues (tflink, 19:30:57)
* (803434) [swell-foop] Help -> Content function is broken (tflink,
19:31:10)
* LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=803434 (tflink,
19:31:11)
* Proposed Blocker, ASSIGNED (tflink, 19:31:11)
* AGREED: - 803434 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F17
final release criterion: "All applications listed under the
Applications menu or category must withstand a basic functionality
test and not crash after a few minutes of normal use." (tflink,
19:35:18)
* (799667) [abrt] gnome-settings-daemon-3.3.90.1-1.fc17: g_logv: Process
/usr/libexec/gnome-settings-daemon was killed by signal 5 (SIGTRAP)
(tflink, 19:35:30)
* LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=799667 (tflink,
19:35:33)
* Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 19:35:36)
* AGREED: - 799667 - AcceptedNTH - It's not clear whether this affects
enough HW to be a blocker but there is a fix that needs to be
applied and is a bit nasty to hit right after install (tflink,
19:49:41)
* (791130) segfault in _clutter_actor_finish_queue_redraw (tflink,
19:49:49)
* LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=791130 (tflink,
19:49:49)
* Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 19:49:49)
* AGREED: - 791130 - RejectedBlocker - This doesn't hit any release
critera or precedents and therefore is not a blocker. Re-propose as
NTH and it will be re-evaluated if not fixed with new update
(tflink, 20:12:24)
* (804835) Failed to install GRUB2 into boot partition (tflink,
20:12:56)
* LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=804835 (tflink,
20:12:56)
* Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 20:12:56)
* AGREED: - 804835 - RejectedBlocker - This doesn't violate any of the
F17 release criteria and is a non-standard method of installation -
a workaround is available. (tflink, 20:16:41)
* (802106) ipw2200 bg doesn't work in f17 (tflink, 20:16:48)
* LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=802106 (tflink,
20:16:48)
* Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 20:16:48)
* ACTION: tflink to find better numbers on how many affected installs
are in smolt (tflink, 20:21:22)
* AGREED: - 802106 - we still need data on how many ipw2200 installs
are registered in smolt - will vote once we have that data (tflink,
20:22:23)
* (796479) firewalld conflicts with libvirt's default network (tflink,
20:22:32)
* LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=796479 (tflink,
20:22:32)
* Proposed Blocker, ASSIGNED (tflink, 20:22:32)
* AGREED: - 796479 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the F17 beta release
criterion "The release must be able host virtual guest instances of
the same release, using Fedora's current preferred virtualization
technology" (tflink, 20:27:05)
* (813905) livecd-iso-to-disk does not create USB correctly from a DVD
image (tflink, 20:27:18)
* LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=813905 (tflink,
20:27:21)
* Proposed Blocker, MODIFIED (tflink, 20:27:24)
* AGREED: - 813905 - AcceptedBlocker - The documentation needs to
cover use cases that require --format and there needs to be a
warning if the process is going to fail. The approved blocker does
NOT cover any claims of lost functionality - that would need to be
filed in another bz (tflink, 20:35:11)
* (799132) numastat is written in perl (tflink, 20:35:52)
* LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=799132 (tflink,
20:35:52)
* Proposed Blocker, ON_QA (tflink, 20:35:53)
* AGREED: - 799132 - RejectedBlocker - As written, this bug does not
hit any of the F17 release criteria (tflink, 20:40:31)
* (813548) pulseaudio terminates very often (tflink, 20:40:53)
* LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=813548 (tflink,
20:40:53)
* Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 20:40:53)
* AGREED: - 813548 - There haven't been enough reports of this to
justify taking as a blocker - will wait another week to see if there
are more reports before deciding on blocker status. It would be nice
to see more testing on this (tflink, 20:46:16)
* (804216) pungi doesn't use yum transactions, which is a problem with
langpacks (tflink, 20:46:22)
* LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=804216 (tflink,
20:46:24)
* Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 20:46:27)
* AGREED: - 804216 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the F17 final release
criterion "All critical path actions on release-blocking desktop
environments should correctly display all sufficiently complete
translations available for use" (tflink, 20:47:46)
* (799591) SELinux is preventing NetworkManager from 'read' access on
the file /etc/sysctl.conf. (tflink, 20:48:35)
* LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=799591 (tflink,
20:48:38)
* Proposed Blocker, MODIFIED (tflink, 20:48:40)
* this was fixed in F17 but re-opened when the same bug showed up in
F16 - will remove from consideration for F17 final blocker (tflink,
20:51:40)
* (740280) /dev/live no longer exists (tflink, 20:51:51)
* LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=740280 (tflink,
20:51:51)
* Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 20:51:51)
* AGREED: - 740280 - This is not a blocker with the current release
criteria but we feel that it should be if it is indeed impacting the
ability to create persistent overlays for live images on USB. No
status change WRT blocker status of this bug; will re-evaluate if
new criterion is accepted (tflink, 21:07:30)
* (798328) No rescue shell is offered for fsck errors (tflink,
21:07:44)
* LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=798328 (tflink,
21:07:44)
* Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 21:07:44)
* AGREED: - 798328 - We need more information and testing on this
before deciding on blocker status. While it could be fixed with an
update, if you hit it before updating, that doesn't help. It would
also be good to know if there are any possible workarounds for the
issue (tflink, 21:23:44)
* (802552) wlan0: WPA: Failed to get master session key from EAPOL state
machines - key handshake aborted (tflink, 21:24:04)
* LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=802552 (tflink,
21:24:07)
* Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 21:24:09)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=811447 states
"PEAP does not work" (adamw, 21:31:11)
* AGREED: - 802552 - AcceptedBlocker - Conditional violation of the
F17 alpha release criterion "The installed system must be able to
download and install updates with yum and the default graphical
package manager in all release-blocking desktops" for PEAP wireless
APs (tflink, 21:35:43)
* (810161) Regression: change to 16 bpp by default in virt breaks KDE
Plasma desktop (tflink, 21:35:55)
* LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=810161 (tflink,
21:35:58)
* Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 21:36:01)
* AGREED: - RejectedBlocker AcceptedNTH - This is a cosmetic polish
issue that only hits certain VM configurations - it doesn't clearly
violate any of the release criteria and doesn't seem severe enough
to justify slipping release for but a well tested fix would be
considered after final freeze (tflink, 21:53:17)
* Open Floor (tflink, 21:58:58)
* there were no objections to not reviewing the NTH this week. Will
revisit next week (tflink, 21:59:20)
* Next blocker review meeting will be on 2012-04-27 @ 17:00 UTC
(tflink, 22:01:38)
Meeting ended at 22:06:31 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* tflink to find better numbers on how many affected installs are in
smolt
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* tflink
* tflink to find better numbers on how many affected installs are in
smolt
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
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* fenrus02 (8)
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