FAmNA Meeting (11 April 2012)
by inode0
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#fedora-meeting: FAmNA
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Meeting started by inode0 at 01:00:03 UTC. The full logs are available
at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-04-11/famna.2012-04-...
.
Meeting summary
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* Roll Call (inode0, 01:00:25)
* Announcements (inode0, 01:02:19)
* F18 Name Voting is delayed a bit waiting for legal review to finish
- announcement will come whenever that ends (inode0, 01:02:59)
* FAmSCo may be having a surprise election this cycle - waiting for
the final decision from them regarding that now (inode0, 01:03:52)
* Another release slip, so May 22 is now the projected release day
(inode0, 01:07:29)
* Tickets (inode0, 01:08:43)
* ACTION: inode0 to schedule a future agenda item to make decisions
about swag in NA (inode0, 01:31:30)
* ACTION: inode0 will send out an invitation to the SELF brainstorming
session at 7pm EDT on Apr 15 (inode0, 01:36:20)
* Open Floor (inode0, 01:38:53)
Meeting ended at 01:50:17 UTC.
Action Items
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* inode0 to schedule a future agenda item to make decisions about swag
in NA
* inode0 will send out an invitation to the SELF brainstorming session
at 7pm EDT on Apr 15
Action Items, by person
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* inode0
* inode0 to schedule a future agenda item to make decisions about swag
in NA
* inode0 will send out an invitation to the SELF brainstorming session
at 7pm EDT on Apr 15
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
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* inode0 (66)
* chanchito (64)
* rbergeron (39)
* VICODAN2 (23)
* graphite6 (17)
* nb (13)
* kk4ewt (11)
* adamw (6)
* zodbot (4)
* Sonar_Gal (3)
* jsmith (1)
John
12 years
2012-04-09 - Fedora QA Meeting - recap
by Adam Williamson
As always, minutes and IRC transcript available on the wiki at
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20120409
Next meeting is scheduled for 2012-04-16 at 1500 UTC in #fedora-meeting.
If you have topics you think we should bring up at the meeting, please
add them to the Wiki page at
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20120416 . Thanks!
TOPIC: Previous meeting follow-up
=======================================================================
N/A
TOPIC: Fedora 17 Beta status / blocker review
=======================================================================
* Need to spin RC4 ASAP: blockers remained in anaconda/
preupgrade and selinux
* #809707 was rejected as a beta blocker as we can only think
of very few cases which will be hit by it, and there is an
obvious 'workaround' (really, the fix): correct the system
date
TOPIC: Test Day report
=======================================================================
* Turnout for the Power Management Test Day on 04-04[1] was
good, looks like a solid bunch of results. It was open house
in Brno, so a lot of input came from that
* Seems to have been solid data in the Installation l10n/i18n
Test Day on 04-05[2] but the results table is a little odd,
may need tidying up
TOPIC: Upcoming QA events
=======================================================================
* KDE 4.8 Test Day tomorrow (04-10)[3] - KDE team is on top of
preparation
* Virtualization Test Day 04-12[4] - virt team is taking a
freeform testing approach, looks like they have the page set
up as they want it
* Beta Go/No-Go scheduled (again) for 04-11
TOPIC: AutoQA update
=======================================================================
* No news, team is busy with Beta testing
TOPIC: Open floor
=======================================================================
* Some discussion of whether preupgrade bugs should block media
spins: adam to propose changes on the list
* Andre noted that mediacheck is now 'hidden' and should be
exposed or enabled by default: see #809663[5]
ACTION ITEMS
=======================================================================
* adamw to send formal proposal for preupgrade criteria
adjustment to the list
[1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2012-04-04_Power_Management
[2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2012-04-05_L10n_I18n_Installation
[3] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2012-04-10_KDE_4.8
[4] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2012-04-12_Virtualization_Test_Day
[5] http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=809663
--
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora
http://www.happyassassin.net
12 years
Docs meeting minutes -- 9 April 2012
by Ben Cotton
Meeting summary
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* Roll Call (bcotton, 14:00:35)
* Release Notes (bcotton, 14:04:44)
* Guide Status (bcotton, 14:06:14)
* LINK:
http://rbergero.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-17/f-17-docs-tree-tasks.html
(bcotton, 14:06:22)
* bcotton has updated the Burning ISOs and Live Images guides for F17
(bcotton, 14:08:02)
* Outstanding BZ Tickets (bcotton, 14:09:42)
* LINK: http://tinyurl.com/lbrq84 (bcotton, 14:09:50)
* lots of bugs to be squashed if anyone gets bored (bcotton,
14:10:32)
* Open floor discussion (bcotton, 14:11:26)
Meeting ended at 14:13:05 UTC.
Action Items
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Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
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* bcotton (21)
* zodbot (3)
* rbergeron (1)
* sgordon (1)
* shaiton (1)
Minutes:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-04-09/fedora_docs.20...
Minutes (text):
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-04-09/fedora_docs.20...
Log:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-04-09/fedora_docs.20...
--
Ben Cotton
Fedora Docs Leader
12 years
F17 Beta to slip by an additional week.
by Robyn Bergeron
At the Go/No-Go meeting it was decided to slip the Beta by an additional
week[1]. Minutes follow below.
Though the QA team was able to get through all validation testing, it
was found that preupgrade was not functioning at an acceptable level,
thus becoming an additional blocker which prevents us from shipping RC3,
and necessitating the creation of an RC4.
As a result, ALL MAJOR MILESTONES, and their dependent tasks, will be
pushed out by one week. Beta will now be looking at an expected release
of 2012-04-17, and F17 GA is now scheduled for 2012-05-22. This is the
second one-week slip of beta.
Adjustments to the full F17 schedule have been completed and now reflect
the above Beta and GA dates, and high-level milestones have been updated
as well on the Schedule wiki page[3].
We will be meeting again next Wednesday for another Go/No-Go meeting
(2012-04-11.) All hail our QA pals and the anacondanistas for their
dedication (and many, many others as well).
-Robyn
[1] Minutes:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2012-04-05/gono-go_cont...
Logs:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2012-04-05/gono-go_cont...
[2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Current_Release_Blockers
[3] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Schedule
Minutes:
=============================================================
#fedora-meeting-1: Go/No Go Continuation, Round Two, RC3, F17
=============================================================
Meeting started by rbergeron at 15:00:38 UTC. The full logs are
available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2012-04-05/gono-go_cont...
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Meeting summary
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* Who's up (rbergeron, 15:01:03)
* Test Results (rbergeron, 15:11:31)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_17_Beta_RC3_Install
(rbergeron, 15:11:37)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_17_Beta_RC3_Base
(rbergeron, 15:12:11)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_17_Beta_RC3_Desktop
(rbergeron, 15:12:22)
* AGREED: we are okay with the level of test coverage as of now on RC3
(rbergeron, 15:16:31)
* Blockers (rbergeron, 15:16:41)
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=741594 (adamw, 15:18:19)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=741594#c14
(Martix, 15:18:54)
* AGREED: 741594 does not hit any of the criteria and the cited
scenarios are not significant enough to worry about delaying the
beta (adamw, 15:29:18)
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=810226 (adamw, 15:31:12)
* LINK: http://patchwork.freedesktop.org/patch/9198/ (adamw,
15:40:55)
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=810161 (adamw, 15:48:57)
* AGREED: 810161 is rejected as a blocker because the impact is minor
(it's essentially a cosmetic bug, desktop is still usable), also it
only hits one specific virt configuration so it can at least be
worked around. accepted as NTH and will be commonbugs'ed if we ship
with it (adamw, 16:13:56)
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=810289 (adamw, 16:14:24)
* AGREED: #810289 is rejected as a blocker on the basis that we've
never actually checked for low space on upgrade (and hence have
implictly never considered it a blocking issue). anaconda will just
try to upgrade and explode. so this isn't in fact a regression
compared to earlier releases, and we don't have a specific
requirement for a low space check in criteria or anywhere else.
accepted as NTH (adamw, 16:31:38)
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=810136 (adamw, 16:31:59)
* AGREED: 810136 turns out to be a dupe of 810005, moving discussion
(adamw, 19:45:37)
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=810005 (adamw, 19:45:42)
* AGREED: 810005 is accepted as a blocker per criterion "The installer
must be able to successfully complete an upgrade installation from a
clean, fully updated default installation (from any official install
medium) of the previous stable Fedora release, either via preupgrade
or by booting to the installer manually. The upgraded system must
meet all release criteria". the known workaround has too many
limitations to be considered 'good enough' (adamw, 19:53:23)
* Go or no-go? (rbergeron, 19:54:12)
* we have a blocker. (rbergeron, 19:54:27)
* qa votes no-go, as do various others from engineering, fesco, pm
(rbergeron, 19:55:18)
* AGREED: we are no-go on F17 Beta RC3 sadly (adamw, 19:58:27)
* ACTION: rbergeron to update schedule.... again (rbergeron,
19:58:55)
* ACTION: rbergero to send slip mail (rbergeron, 20:00:19)
* ACTION: tflink to do blocker meeting mail following slip notice
(rbergeron, 20:00:38)
* ACTION: qa heroes of awesome to get some rest plz (rbergeron,
20:03:09)
* ACTION: adamw to get a hole in one (rbergeron, 20:03:23)
* we will re-convene tomorrow or monday (adamw, 20:08:56)
Meeting ended at 20:08:59 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* rbergeron to update schedule.... again
* rbergero to send slip mail
* tflink to do blocker meeting mail following slip notice
* qa heroes of awesome to get some rest plz
* adamw to get a hole in one
Action Items, by person
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* adamw
* adamw to get a hole in one
* rbergeron
* rbergeron to update schedule.... again
* tflink
* tflink to do blocker meeting mail following slip notice
* **UNASSIGNED**
* rbergero to send slip mail
* qa heroes of awesome to get some rest plz
People Present (lines said)
---------------------------
* adamw (360)
EDITOR'S NOTE: Dude! It's like 360 degrees of adamw :)
* wwoods (99)
* rbergeron (91)
* tflink (56)
* bcl (54)
* nirik (49)
* Kevin_Kofler (37)
* ajax (32)
* Martix (19)
* rdieter_work (8)
* zodbot (6)
* cpuobsessed (5)
* pjones (5)
* ianweller (4)
* kalev (3)
* spot (3)
* satellit_laptop (1)
* pschindl_ (1)
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12 years
Summary/Minutes from today's Fedora Infrastructure meeting (2012-04-05)
by Kevin Fenzi
============================================
#fedora-meeting: Infrastructure (2012-04-05)
============================================
Meeting started by nirik at 20:00:01 UTC. The full logs are available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-04-05/infrastructure...
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Meeting summary
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* Robot Roll Call (nirik, 20:00:02)
* New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks. (nirik, 20:02:47)
* two factor auth status (nirik, 20:05:51)
* no news this week, will revisit next (nirik, 20:06:32)
* LINK:
http://skvidal.fedorapeople.org/misc/pam_url_with_patches.tar.gz
(skvidal, 20:06:47)
* Staging re-work status (nirik, 20:08:02)
* no news here. Will work on it once freeze is over. (nirik,
20:08:29)
* Applications status / discussion (nirik, 20:08:43)
* mirrormanager outage this week. Possibly due to bad upstream ASN
data (still under investigation). (nirik, 20:11:23)
* will schedule a bodhi work session with qa/rel-eng/infra and any
other interested folks. (nirik, 20:15:52)
* deployment for tagger in production is waiting on package review
work. (nirik, 20:16:13)
* several fas patches pending review. (nirik, 20:16:25)
* Upcoming Tasks/Items (nirik, 20:19:05)
* 2012-03-20 to 2012-04-17 - F17 Beta Freeze (nirik, 20:19:21)
* 2012-04-09 21UTC - fedorahosted migration outage. (nirik, 20:19:21)
* 2012-04-10 - drop inactive fi-apprentices (nirik, 20:19:22)
* 2012-04-17 - F17Beta release day (nirik, 20:19:22)
* 2012-05-08 to 2012-05-22 - F17 Final Freeze. (nirik, 20:19:22)
* 2012-05-01 - nag fi-apprentices. (nirik, 20:19:24)
* 2011-05-03 - gitweb-cache removal day. (nirik, 20:19:26)
* 2012-05-09 - Check if puppet works on f17 yet. (nirik, 20:19:28)
* 2012-05-10 - drop inactive fi-apprentices (nirik, 20:19:30)
* 2012-05-22 - F17 release (nirik, 20:19:32)
* LINK: http://fpaste.org/42x9/ (skvidal, 20:21:55)
* Meeting tagged tickets (nirik, 20:32:16)
* Open Floor (nirik, 20:34:19)
Meeting ended at 20:41:52 UTC.
Action Items
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Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
---------------------------
* nirik (90)
* skvidal (58)
* abadger1999 (10)
* zodbot (8)
* wolfkit (7)
* mdomsch (7)
* smooge (6)
* pingou (6)
* lmacken (5)
* Crothers_ (3)
* threebean (2)
* CodeBlock (2)
* ricky (0)
* dgilmore (0)
* Codeblock (0)
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20:00:01 <nirik> #startmeeting Infrastructure (2012-04-05)
20:00:01 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Apr 5 20:00:01 2012 UTC. The chair is nirik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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20:00:02 <nirik> #meetingname infrastructure
20:00:02 <nirik> #topic Robot Roll Call
20:00:02 <nirik> #chair smooge skvidal Codeblock ricky nirik abadger1999 lmacken dgilmore mdomsch
20:00:02 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'infrastructure'
20:00:02 <zodbot> Current chairs: Codeblock abadger1999 dgilmore lmacken mdomsch nirik ricky skvidal smooge
20:00:09 * abadger1999 here
20:00:11 <nirik> who all is around for a nice infra meeting?
20:00:18 * skvidal is here
20:00:22 * nirik has to go step away for a sec... back in a minute.
20:00:22 * wolfkit is here
20:00:28 <CodeBlock> here, but working on a paper due in about an hour, so... yeah.
20:00:39 <skvidal> just so we're clear
20:00:44 <skvidal> it is far too nice of a day for meetings
20:00:45 <skvidal> :)
20:00:49 <skvidal> and it is virtual-friday
20:00:49 * lmacken
20:00:52 <smooge> here
20:01:16 <smooge> my name is mr crankypants
20:01:16 <wolfkit> skvidal, virtual-friday? taking tomorrow off for easter holiday? :)
20:01:18 * mdomsch
20:01:26 <skvidal> wolfkit: rh is closed for the holiday
20:01:28 <skvidal> wolfkit: so... yes
20:01:33 <smooge> okra-planting day
20:02:43 <nirik> ok, lets go ahead and get started?
20:02:47 <nirik> #topic New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks.
20:02:47 <nirik> If any new folks want to give a quick one line bio or any apprentices
20:02:47 <nirik> would like to ask general questions, they can do so now. Anyone?
20:02:57 <Crothers_> Here on mobile
20:03:29 <nirik> welcome Crothers_
20:03:50 <Crothers_> Ty. Driving lol
20:04:08 <wolfkit> that isn't safe.. don't crash :(
20:04:33 <nirik> ok, any general apprentice questions or intros? or shall we move along?
20:04:39 <Crothers_> Yea at a stop light. Sorry for not being at a pc
20:04:56 <skvidal> umm
20:05:00 <skvidal> no distracted driving
20:05:04 <skvidal> put down any computing devices
20:05:19 <wolfkit> Crothers_: when you get to your destination, you can catch up
20:05:25 <nirik> yeah, no crashing please. ;)
20:05:29 <skvidal> fuck crashing
20:05:34 <skvidal> if you hurt yourself that's your problem
20:05:38 <skvidal> no killing pedestrians or cyclists
20:05:48 <nirik> indeed.
20:05:51 * skvidal is REALLY not amused
20:05:51 <nirik> #topic two factor auth status
20:06:03 <nirik> so, whats the latest on the 2factor?
20:06:09 <skvidal> no change this week. my compatriot at kernel.org has been off at a conference
20:06:13 <skvidal> with everyone else from kernel.org
20:06:17 <nirik> ah, ok.
20:06:22 <wolfkit> skvidal, did you ever get that tarball made or is that waiting for something?
20:06:32 <nirik> #info no news this week, will revisit next
20:06:33 <skvidal> wolfkit: yes, I did
20:06:35 <skvidal> I thought I told oyu
20:06:36 <skvidal> sorry
20:06:47 <skvidal> http://skvidal.fedorapeople.org/misc/pam_url_with_patches.tar.gz
20:06:50 <skvidal> wolfkit: there you go
20:06:52 <wolfkit> skvidal, it's okay. you can link me :)
20:06:58 <nirik> cool.
20:07:15 <wolfkit> aah, cool. thanks! should be able to hack it over the easter holiday
20:07:19 <nirik> anything else on this this week? or shall we move on...
20:08:02 <nirik> #topic Staging re-work status
20:08:11 <nirik> no news here. Still waiting for freeze to end. ;)
20:08:12 <skvidal> wolfkit: cpool
20:08:29 <nirik> #info no news here. Will work on it once freeze is over.
20:08:43 <nirik> #topic Applications status / discussion
20:09:05 <nirik> abadger1999 / lmacken / threebean / pingou / CodeBlock (or any other app developing folks)
20:09:11 <nirik> any application news this week.
20:09:41 <abadger1999> not really
20:10:04 <nirik> fair enough.
20:10:06 <abadger1999> I took a look at threebean's fedmsg code this week -- looks pretty good.
20:10:19 <abadger1999> He's got a preliminary fas branch for it.
20:10:19 <nirik> we did have a mirrormanager blow up eariler this week...
20:10:23 <abadger1999> oh yes.
20:10:28 <abadger1999> And end last week too.
20:10:31 <CodeBlock> I have not much new to report, sorry. Been way off schedule and have had some number of school obligations (e.g. the report I'm typing right now) that I've been working on.
20:10:34 <nirik> still looking to isolate that, but it seems to be related to asn data.
20:11:10 <lmacken> I sat down with threebean last week and we walked through spinning up a new release of tagger and deploying it to production. We got caught up in a little of of RPM hell, and didn't finish the deployment. Everything is built though, and we just need to push it into staging, test, then into prod.
20:11:23 <nirik> #info mirrormanager outage this week. Possibly due to bad upstream ASN data (still under investigation).
20:11:45 <nirik> lmacken: ok, cool. Would be nice to get that finished to production sometime. ;)
20:11:46 <threebean> Yeah, I've been in packaging land today and yesterday trying to get that all sorted out the right way.
20:12:04 * nirik can also try and help reviewing and stuff if needed.
20:12:26 <lmacken> I suspect we're going to have a lot of python-tw2-* under review pretty soon.
20:12:31 <nirik> ok.
20:13:25 <pingou> abadger1999: we have a couple (3 to be exact) patches pending review for fas
20:13:25 <nirik> lmacken: we should also try and do a bodhi meetup next week or something... look at whats needed now for 1.0, and start talking about 2.0 stuff...
20:14:10 <lmacken> nirik: yup, I agree. I was hoping to get around to a lot of that this week, but I ended up in an epic battle with the post-ROC plague
20:14:12 <abadger1999> pingou: ugh yeah -- I'm multitasking to hell and back. I guess I should up priority patches since it blocks other people doing work.
20:14:40 <lmacken> nirik: I'll try and wrangle a bodhi2 meetup with infra+releng+qa people
20:14:41 <pingou> abadger1999: I'm not sure it blocks them, but it is nice to have feed-backs :)
20:14:43 <nirik> lmacken: yeah, I've been swamped too... we should probibly just schedule something and do it, or else we will never get to it. :)
20:14:47 <abadger1999> <nod>
20:14:54 <pingou> abadger1999: two of the three are mine actually, so no hurry for these ;-)
20:15:52 <nirik> #info will schedule a bodhi work session with qa/rel-eng/infra and any other interested folks.
20:16:13 <nirik> #info deployment for tagger in production is waiting on package review work.
20:16:25 <nirik> #info several fas patches pending review.
20:16:29 <nirik> anything else?
20:16:39 <pingou> lmacken: threebean when you have a list of reviews, send them around ;)
20:17:05 <nirik> yeah, I'm sure we can get reviewers.
20:17:55 <threebean> pingou: I'll drop them in #fedora-devel
20:18:05 <pingou> threebean: sure
20:18:38 <nirik> ok, moving on then...
20:19:05 <nirik> #topic Upcoming Tasks/Items
20:19:15 <nirik> we have slipped another week on Fedora 17...
20:19:21 <nirik> #info 2012-03-20 to 2012-04-17 - F17 Beta Freeze
20:19:21 <nirik> #info 2012-04-09 21UTC - fedorahosted migration outage.
20:19:22 <nirik> #info 2012-04-10 - drop inactive fi-apprentices
20:19:22 <nirik> #info 2012-04-17 - F17Beta release day
20:19:22 <nirik> #info 2012-05-08 to 2012-05-22 - F17 Final Freeze.
20:19:24 <nirik> #info 2012-05-01 - nag fi-apprentices.
20:19:26 <nirik> #info 2011-05-03 - gitweb-cache removal day.
20:19:28 <nirik> #info 2012-05-09 - Check if puppet works on f17 yet.
20:19:30 <nirik> #info 2012-05-10 - drop inactive fi-apprentices
20:19:32 <nirik> #info 2012-05-22 - F17 release
20:19:36 <nirik> so, our freeze extends another week.
20:19:39 <skvidal> brrr
20:19:52 <nirik> I've also scheduled an outage for monday for fedorahosted.
20:20:07 <smooge> how does RC3 look?
20:20:09 <nirik> I'm going to migrate us from hosted03 (drbd) to hosted01/02 (glusterfs)
20:20:20 <nirik> smooge: not too bad, but preupgrade is busted.
20:20:24 <smooge> the emails sounded it might slip again
20:20:29 <smooge> ugh
20:20:45 <skvidal> wow, it's like narnia
20:20:48 <skvidal> always frozen
20:20:51 <nirik> yep. slipping another week. ;)
20:20:59 <pingou> skvidal: :)
20:21:11 <nirik> any other upcoming items people would like to schedule or note?
20:21:40 <skvidal> I've been working on ansible playbooks
20:21:48 <skvidal> (and fixing bugs/issues) in ansible this week
20:21:50 <skvidal> it's coming along
20:21:55 <skvidal> http://fpaste.org/42x9/
20:22:09 <nirik> cool.
20:22:14 <skvidal> that does what I expect it to do - and it behaves properly when run multiple times in a row
20:22:17 <skvidal> which is also nice.
20:22:56 <skvidal> it's still evolving
20:23:09 <skvidal> and we need 2 or 3 more modules to be able to duplicate the things we do with puppet now
20:23:16 <skvidal> 1. a mount/fstab editor module
20:23:29 <skvidal> 2. modifying the copy module so it handles fall through sources w/vars
20:23:54 <skvidal> 3. a fair bit of framework - dirs where host data/configs live, paths for additional modules, etc
20:24:15 <skvidal> however, it is easy to test and there's no infrastructure to setup since it is all ssh and push-based
20:24:43 <skvidal> If other folks would like to play with it - check it out at ansible.github.com and look at the examples/docs
20:24:51 <nirik> sounds good.
20:24:58 <skvidal> even if we do not
20:25:05 <skvidal> decide to use ansible in lieu of puppet
20:25:15 <skvidal> I think there are classes of systems we can use w/ansible exclusively
20:25:35 <skvidal> builders are the ones that come to mind
20:25:42 <nirik> yeah.
20:25:51 <skvidal> so I asked this a litlte before
20:25:56 <skvidal> but I want to ask again now
20:26:17 <skvidal> if I modified our sshd configuration to allow root to login via ssh key
20:26:39 <skvidal> and I setup an authorized_keys file for root which only allowed login from lockbox01 - how would we everyone feel about that?
20:26:49 <nirik> I think we were uneasy about it, but really it's not that bad
20:27:14 <skvidal> so the other thing I was just considering is this
20:27:22 * abadger1999 agrees with nirik
20:27:23 <skvidal> right now our kickstarts set a temp password for root
20:27:35 <skvidal> that could stay the same
20:27:56 <skvidal> but I was considering having our post-script grab an authorized-keys file from infra.fp.o
20:28:23 <skvidal> then we could do the entirety of an install w/o needing a root password - just access to that key
20:28:35 <skvidal> does that worry anyone?
20:28:42 <skvidal> I was trying to think of attack vectors
20:28:51 <skvidal> and I couldn't come up with how a published pubkey would help anyone
20:29:01 <nirik> yeah, not sure off hand.
20:29:16 <nirik> perhaps write up the workflow and we can look at it and see if anyone can come up with problems?
20:29:20 <skvidal> sure
20:29:27 <skvidal> I can do that
20:29:41 <nirik> sounds good.
20:29:47 <skvidal> that's all I have
20:30:26 <nirik> ok. Thanks
20:30:30 <nirik> any other upcoming stuff?
20:30:59 <nirik> oh, I'll probibly ask people to test the new hosted01/02 out some once I have it set the way I want it.
20:31:08 <nirik> can be done via a /etc/hosts file.
20:32:03 <nirik> ok, moving along...
20:32:16 <nirik> #topic Meeting tagged tickets
20:32:28 <nirik> we don't have any, but we do have our Fedora 17 beta tagged tickets.
20:32:54 <nirik> most of which we can't do much with until there's a Fedora 17 beta in existance. ;)
20:33:02 <nirik> .ticket 3218
20:33:05 <zodbot> nirik: #3218 (Fedora17 Beta - Verify mirror space) – Fedora Infrastructure - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/3218
20:33:06 <nirik> .ticket 3219
20:33:09 <zodbot> nirik: #3219 (Fedora17 Beta - new website) – Fedora Infrastructure - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/3219
20:33:11 <nirik> .ticket 3220
20:33:14 <zodbot> nirik: #3220 (Fedora17 Beta - release day ticket) – Fedora Infrastructure - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/3220
20:33:17 <nirik> .ticket 3221
20:33:19 <zodbot> nirik: #3221 (Fedora17 Beta - verify permissions on content) – Fedora Infrastructure - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/3221
20:34:19 <nirik> #topic Open Floor
20:34:34 <nirik> anyone have any items for open floor? questions, comments, observations?
20:35:32 * nirik listens to the crickets. ;)
20:36:07 <mdomsch> any GSoC interns looking at FI work?
20:36:38 <nirik> mdomsch: there were some FI related proposal/ideas... not sure if anyone is going to be accepted for them.
20:36:50 <mdomsch> there's one in metalinks group wanting to do some metalink work to MM
20:37:04 <mdomsch> I don't have a ton of time to spend mentoring this year
20:37:09 <mdomsch> a little, but not a lot
20:37:22 * nirik has been swamped too. I need to try and catch up on that list, etc...
20:37:31 <mdomsch> the MM work proposed should be fairly quick, if only MM worked on F16ish anymore
20:37:41 <mdomsch> I've got to get that fixed first
20:38:06 * abadger1999 is likely going to be mentoring someone on mailman archivers
20:38:22 <nirik> there's been interest in the survey application setup...
20:38:38 <nirik> it's unclear to me if any of those folks are going to follow through or be accepted for it tho
20:39:15 <skvidal> and the gitlabhq thing
20:39:31 <nirik> also, there was a lot of interest in... yeah, gitlabhq.
20:39:33 <nirik> so I guess we will see.
20:40:18 <nirik> ok, if nothing else will close out the meeting in a minute here.
20:41:50 <nirik> ok, thanks for coming everyone!
20:41:52 <nirik> #endmeeting
12 years
Summary/Minutes from today's irc support sig meeting (2012-04-05)
by Kevin Fenzi
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#fedora-meeting: IRC Support SIG (2012-04-05)
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Meeting started by nirik at 17:00:00 UTC. The full logs are available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-04-05/irc-support-si...
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Meeting summary
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* init process (nirik, 17:00:01)
* Week in review (nirik, 17:03:40)
* LINK: http://fedora.theglaserfamily.org/ircstats/fedora-weekly.html
(nirik, 17:03:40)
* Tickets (nirik, 17:08:10)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/report/1 (nirik,
17:08:10)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/ticket/103 (nirik,
17:08:23)
* Open Floor (nirik, 17:16:37)
Meeting ended at 17:27:04 UTC.
Action Items
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Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
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* nirik (44)
* Sonar_Gal (21)
* DiscordianUK (16)
* glguy (9)
* Southern_Gentlem (6)
* N3LRX (3)
* zodbot (3)
* Discordian (1)
* pingou (1)
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17:00:00 <nirik> #startmeeting IRC Support SIG (2012-04-05)
17:00:00 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Apr 5 17:00:00 2012 UTC. The chair is nirik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
17:00:00 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic.
17:00:01 <nirik> #meetingname irc-support-sig
17:00:01 <nirik> #topic init process
17:00:01 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'irc-support-sig'
17:00:17 * N3LRX
17:00:32 * Discordian is here
17:01:26 * nirik will wait a bit more for folks to wander in
17:01:40 * Sonar_Gal
17:01:56 <glguy> I hope I'm not late
17:02:07 <nirik> not at all.
17:02:13 <Sonar_Gal> glguy, nope right on time
17:02:15 * nirik is waiting a minute or two more for folks.
17:03:35 <nirik> ok, I didn't have much today, so lets go ahead and dive in...
17:03:40 <nirik> #topic Week in review
17:03:40 <nirik> http://fedora.theglaserfamily.org/ircstats/fedora-weekly.html
17:03:44 * Southern_Gentlem
17:04:00 <nirik> anything anyone would like to point out from the previous week?
17:05:45 <nirik> it seemed a reasonably typical week, but a bit busier than things have been
17:06:01 <Sonar_Gal> Spring break
17:06:36 <nirik> yeah.
17:06:38 <Sonar_Gal> past 3 weeks and 2 more weeks are spring breaks for schools/colleges
17:07:00 <DiscordianUK> There seemed to be lots more wanting spoon feeding than usual
17:07:39 <nirik> possibly new folks installing since they have time at spring break...
17:07:53 <DiscordianUK> Could be
17:08:04 <nirik> ok, moving on then...
17:08:10 <nirik> #topic Tickets
17:08:10 <nirik> https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/report/1
17:08:16 <nirik> we have one ticket, filed last night...
17:08:23 <nirik> https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/ticket/103
17:08:59 <nirik> I think this was a misunderstanding...
17:09:19 <Southern_Gentlem> yep
17:10:25 <nirik> not sure how we can handle this better... perhaps try and avoid coming into the end of things?
17:11:11 <Sonar_Gal> I say if someone is helping another stay out of it unless needed
17:11:31 <nirik> yeah, we already often suffer from too many cooks.
17:11:41 <Sonar_Gal> Randomusr has been around for years
17:11:45 <nirik> but it's hard to remember that, so we should remind people politely...
17:12:23 <glguy> If I was going to pick an example of a hostile interaction I wouldn't have picked that one
17:12:39 <Sonar_Gal> one of the reasons I stopped helping was being pushed out by others. I use to help in there daily for years
17:12:48 <nirik> glguy: indeed.
17:13:05 <DiscordianUK> It doesn't look like a hostile interaction to me
17:13:08 <nirik> it didn't seem particularly hostile to me.
17:13:30 <Sonar_Gal> Thing is some don't think or realize they are hostile that's just how they are
17:13:48 <nirik> right.
17:14:06 <nirik> so, proposal: thank submitter for feedback, try and get folks not to pile on when someone is already being helped?
17:14:17 <Sonar_Gal> +1
17:14:26 <DiscordianUK> +1
17:14:40 <N3LRX> That sounds reasonable.
17:15:36 <nirik> ok, would anyone care to step up to close the ticket for us?
17:16:10 <Sonar_Gal> I got the ticket
17:16:32 <nirik> Sonar_Gal: thank you.
17:16:37 <nirik> #topic Open Floor
17:16:46 <nirik> any other ideas/suggestions/thoughts/bacon?
17:17:19 * Sonar_Gal passes the platter of bacon around
17:17:25 * pingou picks one
17:17:49 <DiscordianUK> a comment : this weekend will be busy
17:18:07 <nirik> DiscordianUK: holiday weekend? yeah, could be
17:18:12 <DiscordianUK> holidays here and elsewhere
17:18:39 * nirik nods.
17:18:51 <DiscordianUK> 5 day holiday here
17:19:08 <glguy> I actually was going to say that #fedora seemed noticably more polite than when I first started spending time a few weeks ago
17:19:08 <Southern_Gentlem> easter
17:19:31 <glguy> a nontargetted bacon, I guess
17:19:44 <nirik> glguy: oh? just of late? or ?
17:19:44 <DiscordianUK> easter+queen's jubilee day
17:19:49 <Southern_Gentlem> glguy it always goes in cycles and you have seen that as well
17:21:00 <nirik> anyhow, if nothing else, will just close out in a few minutes.
17:21:16 <Sonar_Gal> glguy, That's also what these meetings are for. To try to make #fedora and -social as easy to be in and friendly as possible
17:21:24 <Sonar_Gal> nirik, Nothing that I know of
17:21:34 <DiscordianUK> I believe f17 is about to ship beta
17:21:50 <DiscordianUK> presumably we will do as usual with it
17:22:01 <Southern_Gentlem> from what i am seeing its installing
17:22:05 <Southern_Gentlem> and works
17:22:20 <DiscordianUK> RC3 now isn't it
17:22:47 <nirik> yes, the final go/no go is being discussed now in #fedora-meeting-1. ;)
17:23:18 <DiscordianUK> so if it's go we'll support in main ?
17:23:19 <Sonar_Gal> yeah I have that meeting up also
17:23:25 <Sonar_Gal> DiscordianUK, yes
17:23:37 <nirik> DiscordianUK: yep. and do our usual ban list wipeout I assume...
17:23:54 <Sonar_Gal> do we have to do the clean out
17:23:59 <DiscordianUK> that would be the norm aye
17:24:02 <glguy> Ah, interesting. I was noticing yesterday that the ban list was impressively short
17:24:10 <Sonar_Gal> same normal people will be banned with in 2 weeks again
17:24:16 <glguy> you maintain that with a 6month wipe cycle?
17:24:21 <DiscordianUK> always happens
17:24:29 <nirik> glguy: yeah, for the last few years...
17:24:33 <nirik> we wipe it at beta...
17:24:46 <Sonar_Gal> glguy, yes they get banned short times then after so many till Beta of next release
17:24:48 <nirik> to give people a chance to have changed and be productive.
17:25:03 <nirik> but of course some of the same ones end up on it again
17:25:13 <nirik> but I think it's still worth doing.
17:25:30 <DiscordianUK> absolutely
17:25:35 <Sonar_Gal> glguy, you have not come into #fedora-social yet?
17:25:47 <glguy> I've initiated ban list wipes in otherlarge channels, but never had a fixed cycle to tie it to
17:26:01 <glguy> I really believe in trying to work with people and trying ot keep a short list where possible
17:26:05 <N3LRX> Those that only come back to cause trouble again are the ones that should remain on the list indefinitely.
17:26:10 <DiscordianUK> as do we
17:26:12 <glguy> Sonar_Gal: I should probably do that
17:26:13 <nirik> glguy: absolutely.
17:26:49 <Sonar_Gal> glguy, That's just our fun chat channel
17:26:58 <nirik> anyhow, thanks for coming everyone and keep on helping out!
17:27:03 <Sonar_Gal> :)
17:27:04 <nirik> #endmeeting
12 years
FUDCon KL Meeting Minutes :: 2012-04-05
by Maverick
Hey folks,
Thanks for attending the FUDCon KL Planning Meeting tonight. Following
is the meeting summary;
Minutes:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fudcon-planning/2012-04-05/fudcon_kl_201...
Log:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fudcon-planning/2012-04-05/fudcon_kl_201...
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#fudcon-planning Meeting
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Meeting started by KageSenshi at 14:12:22 UTC. The full logs are
available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fudcon-planning/2012-04-05/fudcon_kl_201...
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Meeting summary
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* rollcall (KageSenshi, 14:12:33)
* LINK: agenda is here:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:KualaLumpur_2012/Meeting:2012-04-05
(KageSenshi, 14:14:37)
* announcements (KageSenshi, 14:15:03)
* review actions from last meeting (KageSenshi, 14:18:02)
* LINK:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fudcon-planning/2012-03-29/fudcon_kl_201...
(KageSenshi, 14:18:05)
* ACTION: KageSenshi to decide on vendor for t-shirt on next wednesday
(KageSenshi, 14:20:43)
* ACTION: KageSenshi reply to unapproved tickets (KageSenshi,
14:20:59)
* Questions/Decisions (KageSenshi, 14:21:58)
* hanthana will be discussing with moz-my and poking gnome-marketing
for a booth/desk in fudcon (KageSenshi, 14:26:31)
* harish is still working on the flight tickets (KageSenshi,
14:27:07)
* ACTION: MavJS & KageSenshi to try contact cwickert , azneita &
eltermino using other means .. as they havent reply to details
request on their ticket (KageSenshi, 14:34:44)
* ACTION: MavJS will be checking out prices for dinner at sri petaling
hotel, and update eric about it (KageSenshi, 14:39:44)
* new action items (KageSenshi, 14:40:12)
* open floor (KageSenshi, 14:40:39)
Meeting ended at 14:42:17 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* KageSenshi to decide on vendor for t-shirt on next wednesday
* KageSenshi reply to unapproved tickets
* MavJS & KageSenshi to try contact cwickert , azneita & eltermino using
other means .. as they havent reply to details request on their ticket
* MavJS will be checking out prices for dinner at sri petaling hotel,
and update eric about it
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* KageSenshi
* KageSenshi to decide on vendor for t-shirt on next wednesday
* KageSenshi reply to unapproved tickets
* MavJS & KageSenshi to try contact cwickert , azneita & eltermino
using other means .. as they havent reply to details request on
their ticket
* MavJS
* MavJS & KageSenshi to try contact cwickert , azneita & eltermino
using other means .. as they havent reply to details request on
their ticket
* MavJS will be checking out prices for dinner at sri petaling hotel,
and update eric about it
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
---------------------------
* KageSenshi (80)
* MavJS (17)
* zodbot (16)
* hanthana (8)
* rbergeron (4)
* kaio (3)
* meng (2)
* yassin__ (1)
* TYSSeries (1)
* jsmith (1)
* Alvisyu (1)
* kulll (1)
* vinz007 (1)
--
Kind Regards,
Maverick
MavJS @ freenode.net
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Mavjs
http://mavjs.github.com
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12 years
i18n meeting summary (2012-04-05)
by Akira TAGOH
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#fedora-meeting: i18n
=====================
Meeting started by tagoh at 05:02:23 UTC. The full logs are available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-04-05/i18n.2012-04-0...
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Meeting summary
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* agenda and roll call (tagoh, 05:02:32)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2012-04-05
(tagoh, 05:02:43)
* F17 (tagoh, 05:05:51)
* Input Methods (tagoh, 05:14:06)
* ACTION: fujiwarat to file a bug for mouse button event issue on
input-pad (tagoh, 05:23:35)
* Fonts and Rendering (tagoh, 05:25:37)
* LINK:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Orphaned_package_that_need_new_maintainers#...
6th step (pravins, 05:30:36)
* ACTION: paragan to check google-croscore-fonts for quality etc
(tagoh, 05:36:01)
* Open Floor (tagoh, 05:39:27)
Meeting ended at 05:44:12 UTC.
Action Items
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* fujiwarat to file a bug for mouse button event issue on input-pad
* paragan to check google-croscore-fonts for quality etc
Action Items, by person
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* fujiwarat
* fujiwarat to file a bug for mouse button event issue on input-pad
* paragan
* paragan to check google-croscore-fonts for quality etc
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
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* tagoh (48)
* pravins (7)
* fujiwarat (6)
* paragan (5)
* zodbot (3)
* epico_laptop (3)
* dueno (1)
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