Docs meeting summary -- 9 July 2012
by Ben Cotton
Meeting summary
---------------
* Roll Call (bcotton, 14:00:26)
* Follow up on last week's action items (bcotton, 14:06:07)
* ACTION: Sparks to take man page website to mailing list (bcotton,
14:08:56)
* Using koji to publish docs.fp.o - Sparks (bcotton, 14:09:24)
* List discussion
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/docs/2012-May/014324.html
(bcotton, 14:09:33)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Automating_publishing
(bcotton, 14:09:40)
* Publish man pages - Sparks (bcotton, 14:17:09)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=828669 (bcotton,
14:17:18)
* ACTION: ianweller to ask the guys behind the packages app if man
pages is a thing they can do (bcotton, 14:24:30)
* QA recap (bcotton, 14:43:17)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs_QA_Procedure (bcotton,
14:43:27)
* Open Help Conference (bcotton, 14:53:18)
* LINK: http://openhelpconference.com (bcotton, 14:53:25)
* Open Help Conference is Aug 11-15 in Cincinnati, OH (bcotton,
14:53:31)
* Open floor discussion (bcotton, 14:54:07)
Meeting ended at 14:56:57 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* Sparks to take man page website to mailing list
* ianweller to ask the guys behind the packages app if man pages is a
thing they can do
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* ianweller
* ianweller to ask the guys behind the packages app if man pages is a
thing they can do
* Sparks
* Sparks to take man page website to mailing list
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
---------------------------
* bcotton (64)
* skvidal (38)
* randomuser (29)
* Sparks (22)
* shaiton (10)
* ianweller (7)
* jjmcd (5)
* sgordon (3)
* zodbot (3)
* pingou (2)
* daydrim (2)
* daumas (1)
* jsmith (1)
* steveg_afk (1)
Minutes:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-07-09/fedora_docs.20...
Minutes (text):
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-07-09/fedora_docs.20...
Log:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-07-09/fedora_docs.20...
--
Ben Cotton
Fedora Docs Leader
11 years, 9 months
APAC Ambassador Meeting 2012-07-07 Minutes
by Aks
Minutes:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-07-07/apac_meeting_2...
Minutes (text):
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-07-07/apac_meeting_2...
Log:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-07-07/apac_meeting_2...
Meet you all in two week on Saturday, 21 July 2012 at 04:00 UTC at
#fedora-meeting
Meeting summary
1.
1. Agenda:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:APAC_Ambassadors_2012-07-07#Agenda
(dramsey<http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-07-07/apac_meeting_2...>,
04:06:15)
2. *News from FAmSCo*
(aks<http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-07-07/apac_meeting_2...>,
04:07:23)
1. Nick Bebout was elected to the Fedora Board at the conclusion of
the run-off election.
(bckurera<http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-07-07/apac_meeting_2...>,
04:08:52)
2. Discussions are going on for a new version of
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Sponsoring_event_attendees
(bckurera<http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-07-07/apac_meeting_2...>,
04:09:35)
3. Discussions are going on for FAD funding process
(bckurera<http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-07-07/apac_meeting_2...>,
04:09:58)
3. *Review Action items from previous meeting*
(aks<http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-07-07/apac_meeting_2...>,
04:13:24)
1. *ACTION*: FranciscoD bckurera Announce ticket on mailing list so
folks can leave their comments
(bckurera<http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-07-07/apac_meeting_2...>,
04:23:06)
2. *ACTION*: FranciscoD nag susmit to deploy map
(aks<http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-07-07/apac_meeting_2...>,
04:28:39)
3. https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/
(aks<http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-07-07/apac_meeting_2...>,
04:31:07)
4. https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/32
(aks<http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-07-07/apac_meeting_2...>,
04:31:39)
4. *APAC Events: plans, status, reports*
(aks<http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-07-07/apac_meeting_2...>,
04:33:22)
1.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events#FY13_Q2_.28June_2012_-_August_2012....
(dramsey<http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-07-07/apac_meeting_2...>,
04:34:11)
2.
http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2012-July/019940.html
(dramsey<http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-07-07/apac_meeting_2...>,
04:34:21)
3. I have ordered 2000 sets of Fedora 17 Live CDs. Those will be
available for distribution to APAC ambassadors. Harish
(dramsey<http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-07-07/apac_meeting_2...>,
04:35:57)
5. *Trac tickets*
(aks<http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-07-07/apac_meeting_2...>,
04:37:42)
1. *ACTION*: All, add your ideas, comments for apac-ticket #32 and #33
(bckurera<http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-07-07/apac_meeting_2...>,
04:40:57)
6. *Open Floor*
(aks<http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-07-07/apac_meeting_2...>,
04:42:37)
1. *AGREED*: aks to chair next meeting on July 21st at 04:00 UTC (
dramsey<http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-07-07/apac_meeting_2...>,
04:47:31)
Meeting ended at 04:49:52 UTC (full
logs<http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-07-07/apac_meeting_2...>
).
Action items
1. FranciscoD bckurera Announce ticket on mailing list so folks can
leave their comments
2. FranciscoD nag susmit to deploy map
3. All, add your ideas, comments for apac-ticket #32 and #33
Action items, by person
1. bckurera
1. FranciscoD bckurera Announce ticket on mailing list so folks can
leave their comments
2. *UNASSIGNED*
1. FranciscoD nag susmit to deploy map
2. All, add your ideas, comments for apac-ticket #32 and #33
People present (lines said)
1. bckurera (54)
2. aks (51)
3. dramsey (51)
4. zodbot (11)
5. azneita_ (6)
6. tuanta (6)
7. kaio_ph (5)
8. scientes (3)
9. ekoikhyar (1)
10. azneita (0)
_________________________________________________________
Regards,
Abhishek Singh
FOSS Nepal Community
http://wiki.fossnepal.org
11 years, 9 months
APAC Ambassador Meeting 2012-07-07 Minutes
by Aks
Minutes:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-07-07/apac_meeting_2...
Minutes (text):
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-07-07/apac_meeting_2...
Log:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-07-07/apac_meeting_2...
Meet you all in two week on Saturday, 21 July 2012 at 04:00 UTC at
#fedora-meeting
Meeting summary
1.
1. Agenda:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:APAC_Ambassadors_2012-07-07#Agenda
(dramsey<http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-07-07/apac_meeting_2...>,
04:06:15)
2. *News from FAmSCo*
(aks<http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-07-07/apac_meeting_2...>,
04:07:23)
1. Nick Bebout was elected to the Fedora Board at the conclusion of
the run-off election.
(bckurera<http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-07-07/apac_meeting_2...>,
04:08:52)
2. Discussions are going on for a new version of
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Sponsoring_event_attendees
(bckurera<http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-07-07/apac_meeting_2...>,
04:09:35)
3. Discussions are going on for FAD funding process
(bckurera<http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-07-07/apac_meeting_2...>,
04:09:58)
3. *Review Action items from previous meeting*
(aks<http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-07-07/apac_meeting_2...>,
04:13:24)
1. *ACTION*: FranciscoD bckurera Announce ticket on mailing list so
folks can leave their comments
(bckurera<http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-07-07/apac_meeting_2...>,
04:23:06)
2. *ACTION*: FranciscoD nag susmit to deploy map
(aks<http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-07-07/apac_meeting_2...>,
04:28:39)
3. https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/
(aks<http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-07-07/apac_meeting_2...>,
04:31:07)
4. https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/32
(aks<http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-07-07/apac_meeting_2...>,
04:31:39)
4. *APAC Events: plans, status, reports*
(aks<http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-07-07/apac_meeting_2...>,
04:33:22)
1.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events#FY13_Q2_.28June_2012_-_August_2012....
(dramsey<http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-07-07/apac_meeting_2...>,
04:34:11)
2.
http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2012-July/019940.html
(dramsey<http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-07-07/apac_meeting_2...>,
04:34:21)
3. I have ordered 2000 sets of Fedora 17 Live CDs. Those will be
available for distribution to APAC ambassadors. Harish
(dramsey<http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-07-07/apac_meeting_2...>,
04:35:57)
5. *Trac tickets*
(aks<http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-07-07/apac_meeting_2...>,
04:37:42)
1. *ACTION*: All, add your ideas, comments for apac-ticket #32 and #33
(bckurera<http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-07-07/apac_meeting_2...>,
04:40:57)
6. *Open Floor*
(aks<http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-07-07/apac_meeting_2...>,
04:42:37)
1. *AGREED*: aks to chair next meeting on July 21st at 04:00 UTC (
dramsey<http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-07-07/apac_meeting_2...>,
04:47:31)
Meeting ended at 04:49:52 UTC (full
logs<http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-07-07/apac_meeting_2...>
).
Action items
1. FranciscoD bckurera Announce ticket on mailing list so folks can
leave their comments
2. FranciscoD nag susmit to deploy map
3. All, add your ideas, comments for apac-ticket #32 and #33
Action items, by person
1. bckurera
1. FranciscoD bckurera Announce ticket on mailing list so folks can
leave their comments
2. *UNASSIGNED*
1. FranciscoD nag susmit to deploy map
2. All, add your ideas, comments for apac-ticket #32 and #33
People present (lines said)
1. bckurera (54)
2. aks (51)
3. dramsey (51)
4. zodbot (11)
5. azneita_ (6)
6. tuanta (6)
7. kaio_ph (5)
8. scientes (3)
9. ekoikhyar (1)
10. azneita (0)
_________________________________________________________
Regards,
Abhishek Singh
FOSS Nepal Community
http://wiki.fossnepal.org
11 years, 9 months
APAC Ambassador Meeting 2012-07-07
by Abhishek Singh
Minutes:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-07-07/apac_meeting_2...
Minutes (text):
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-07-07/apac_meeting_2...
Log:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-07-07/apac_meeting_2...
Meet you all in two week on Saturday, 21 July 2012 at 04:00 UTC at
#fedora-meeting
Meeting summary
1.
1. Agenda:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:APAC_Ambassadors_2012-07-07#Agenda
(dramsey<http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-07-07/apac_meeting_2...>,
04:06:15)
2. *News from FAmSCo*
(aks<http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-07-07/apac_meeting_2...>,
04:07:23)
1. Nick Bebout was elected to the Fedora Board at the conclusion of
the run-off election.
(bckurera<http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-07-07/apac_meeting_2...>,
04:08:52)
2. Discussions are going on for a new version of
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Sponsoring_event_attendees
(bckurera<http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-07-07/apac_meeting_2...>,
04:09:35)
3. Discussions are going on for FAD funding process
(bckurera<http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-07-07/apac_meeting_2...>,
04:09:58)
3. *Review Action items from previous meeting*
(aks<http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-07-07/apac_meeting_2...>,
04:13:24)
1. *ACTION*: FranciscoD bckurera Announce ticket on mailing list so
folks can leave their comments
(bckurera<http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-07-07/apac_meeting_2...>,
04:23:06)
2. *ACTION*: FranciscoD nag susmit to deploy map
(aks<http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-07-07/apac_meeting_2...>,
04:28:39)
3. https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/
(aks<http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-07-07/apac_meeting_2...>,
04:31:07)
4. https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/32
(aks<http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-07-07/apac_meeting_2...>,
04:31:39)
4. *APAC Events: plans, status, reports*
(aks<http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-07-07/apac_meeting_2...>,
04:33:22)
1.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events#FY13_Q2_.28June_2012_-_August_2012....
(dramsey<http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-07-07/apac_meeting_2...>,
04:34:11)
2.
http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2012-July/019940.html
(dramsey<http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-07-07/apac_meeting_2...>,
04:34:21)
3. I have ordered 2000 sets of Fedora 17 Live CDs. Those will be
available for distribution to APAC ambassadors. Harish
(dramsey<http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-07-07/apac_meeting_2...>,
04:35:57)
5. *Trac tickets*
(aks<http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-07-07/apac_meeting_2...>,
04:37:42)
1. *ACTION*: All, add your ideas, comments for apac-ticket #32 and #33
(bckurera<http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-07-07/apac_meeting_2...>,
04:40:57)
6. *Open Floor*
(aks<http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-07-07/apac_meeting_2...>,
04:42:37)
1. *AGREED*: aks to chair next meeting on July 21st at 04:00 UTC (
dramsey<http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-07-07/apac_meeting_2...>,
04:47:31)
Meeting ended at 04:49:52 UTC (full
logs<http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-07-07/apac_meeting_2...>
).
Action items
1. FranciscoD bckurera Announce ticket on mailing list so folks can
leave their comments
2. FranciscoD nag susmit to deploy map
3. All, add your ideas, comments for apac-ticket #32 and #33
Action items, by person
1. bckurera
1. FranciscoD bckurera Announce ticket on mailing list so folks can
leave their comments
2. *UNASSIGNED*
1. FranciscoD nag susmit to deploy map
2. All, add your ideas, comments for apac-ticket #32 and #33
People present (lines said)
1. bckurera (54)
2. aks (51)
3. dramsey (51)
4. zodbot (11)
5. azneita_ (6)
6. tuanta (6)
7. kaio_ph (5)
8. scientes (3)
9. ekoikhyar (1)
10. azneita (0)
_________________________________________________________
Regards,
Abhishek Singh
Ambassador
Fedora Project
http://fedoraproject.org
11 years, 9 months
Summary/Minutes from today's Fedora Infrastructure meeting (2012-07-05)
by Kevin Fenzi
============================================
#fedora-meeting: Infrastructure (2012-07-05)
============================================
Meeting started by nirik at 18:00:52 UTC. The full logs are available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-07-05/infrastructure...
.
Meeting summary
---------------
* Good morning Fedora (nirik, 18:00:52)
* New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks. (nirik, 18:02:52)
* Applications status / discussion (nirik, 18:08:25)
* https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_Infrastructure_Security_2012
(nirik, 18:22:04)
* ACTION: nirik to continue to work out plan and scheduling and budget
for a fad. (nirik, 18:34:00)
* Upcoming Tasks/Items (nirik, 18:35:33)
* 2012-06-26 Fedora 15 end of life. (nirik, 18:35:33)
* 2012-07-05 remove people with pkgdb bugzilla issues. (nirik,
18:35:33)
* 2012-07-05 nag fi-apprentices (nirik, 18:35:33)
* 2012-07-12 drop inactive apprentices. (nirik, 18:35:33)
* 2012-08-07 to 2012-08-21 F18 Alpha Freeze (nirik, 18:35:36)
* 2012-08-21 F18 Alpha release. (nirik, 18:35:38)
* Open Floor (nirik, 18:42:23)
* need to test out new python-bugzilla with all our apps. (nirik,
18:58:00)
* ACTION: lmacken to work on hash randomization for apps next week in
staging. (nirik, 19:02:33)
Meeting ended at 19:10:21 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* nirik to continue to work out plan and scheduling and budget for a
fad.
* lmacken to work on hash randomization for apps next week in staging.
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* lmacken
* lmacken to work on hash randomization for apps next week in staging.
* nirik
* nirik to continue to work out plan and scheduling and budget for a
fad.
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
---------------------------
* nirik (101)
* skvidal (88)
* lmacken (27)
* abadger1999 (26)
* relrod (16)
* threebean (14)
* dgilmore (12)
* smooge (7)
* sdrfed17 (7)
* ianweller (5)
* zodbot (4)
* jaysonr (3)
* ingm4r (2)
* samkottler (2)
* misc (1)
* fchiulli (1)
* ricky (0)
* mdomsch (0)
* CodeBlock (0)
--
18:00:52 <nirik> #startmeeting Infrastructure (2012-07-05)
18:00:52 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Jul 5 18:00:52 2012 UTC. The chair is nirik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
18:00:52 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic.
18:00:52 <nirik> #meetingname infrastructure
18:00:52 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'infrastructure'
18:00:52 <nirik> #topic Good morning Fedora
18:00:52 <nirik> #chair smooge skvidal CodeBlock ricky nirik abadger1999 lmacken dgilmore mdomsch threebean
18:00:52 <zodbot> Current chairs: CodeBlock abadger1999 dgilmore lmacken mdomsch nirik ricky skvidal smooge threebean
18:00:57 * skvidal is here
18:00:59 * abadger1999 here
18:01:08 * relrod is here
18:01:11 <sdrfed17> sdrfed17 is here
18:01:36 * ingm4r is
18:01:48 <dgilmore> hey
18:02:07 * fchiulli is in the rafters.
18:02:47 <nirik> ok, cool... lets go ahead and dive on in then.
18:02:52 <nirik> #topic New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks.
18:03:02 <nirik> If any new folks want to give a quick one line bio or any apprentices would like to ask general questions, they can do so now. Anyone?
18:03:33 <sdrfed17> any apprentice tasks to undertake
18:03:35 <sdrfed17> ?
18:04:28 <nirik> sdrfed17: we have a list of easyfix tickets... http://fedoraproject.org/easyfix/
18:04:34 <nirik> look down to fedora-infrastructure.
18:04:48 <nirik> I've been gone the last week or so, but will try and file some more.
18:05:07 <nirik> If you have any questions on any of them, do ask in #fedora-admin and someone will take a look.
18:05:26 <sdrfed17> ok thanks nirik
18:05:31 <sdrfed17> i will take a look
18:05:53 <nirik> cool. Are you more interested in sysadmin type tasks? or application development/programming? or both?
18:06:11 <sdrfed17> sysadmin
18:06:15 * threebean shows up late
18:06:20 <ingm4r> I would like some new sysadmin-tasks,too
18:06:39 <nirik> ok cool.
18:07:05 <nirik> If either of you would like to be added to the apprentice group (if you aren't already) we can do so after the meeting over in #fedora-admin. :)
18:07:32 <sdrfed17> no i am already in the apprentice group and able to access bastion host
18:07:53 <nirik> great. (Thought so, but my memory might be hazy after vacation. ;)
18:08:25 <nirik> ok, moving along then...
18:08:25 <nirik> #topic Applications status / discussion
18:08:42 * ianweller is here, kinda
18:08:46 <nirik> any new applications news this last week? threebean / abadger1999 / lmacken / CodeBlock / pingou / ianweller
18:09:09 <abadger1999> ianweller has been rewriting elections as a flask application
18:09:13 <ianweller> i sent my elections status to the list
18:09:29 <abadger1999> ianweller: I think it's got good potential
18:09:32 <nirik> yeah. I need to read again and reply to abadger1999's post on applications and ianweller's election post.
18:09:38 <abadger1999> <nod>
18:09:55 <abadger1999> My post on applications and web frameworks has gone unanswered but RH Summit was last week.
18:09:58 <ianweller> i am going to back out on the election admins support for this release
18:10:09 <ianweller> and revert to the elections fas group
18:10:12 <abadger1999> lmacken, threebean: Would be good if you weighed in on that post.
18:10:16 <relrod> Still need to test the fedorahosted web app, but it's ready for testing. Still planning on testing it on hosted01 before we switch over to 01/02. Since it's a semi-real (if a bit out of date because it probably hasn't been rsynced in a while) hosted environment.
18:10:28 <ianweller> because the implementation really needs some discussion
18:10:30 <nirik> abadger1999: so the short summary was: we have a lot of frameworks, can we consolidate some?
18:10:36 <skvidal> nirik: and
18:10:41 <skvidal> "let's pick a 'big app framework
18:10:42 <skvidal> '
18:10:47 <skvidal> and a 'small app framework'
18:10:49 <skvidal> "
18:10:54 <nirik> yeah.
18:10:55 <abadger1999> <nod>
18:11:05 <skvidal> ie: moksha/tg/$flavor_of_the_week for $bigapp
18:11:13 <skvidal> and flask for $smallapp
18:11:17 <nirik> sounds like people are leaning toward: flask -> small app, pyrimid -> big app?
18:11:17 <skvidal> or something along those lines
18:11:23 <nirik> yeah.
18:11:42 <abadger1999> nirik: I think so... but we still have a lot of TG2 apps that seem to be in the pipeline.
18:11:47 <threebean> abadger1999: will do
18:11:47 <abadger1999> So I'm not 100% sure of that.
18:11:50 <skvidal> abadger1999: nod
18:11:59 <abadger1999> threebean and lmacken would know that story better.
18:11:59 <skvidal> abadger1999: and that is, in fact, the crux of the issue
18:12:00 <nirik> relrod: I am going to resync again too... so it should be pretty up to date.
18:12:07 <skvidal> abadger1999: the new-app-platform moving target
18:12:13 <abadger1999> yep.
18:12:24 <abadger1999> Especially as I look at porting the TG1 apps.
18:13:05 <relrod> we also have lmacken's openhw2012 app deployed to a temporary box that skvidal set up. The repo for the app code is: https://github.com/lmacken/fedora-openhw2012 - we just need to add the proxy stuff but if you want to test it, -L via lockbox and go to /openhw2012
18:13:15 <relrod> that's all the app news I have I think
18:13:28 <skvidal> That box has a deadline, too
18:13:37 <skvidal> after the end of july
18:13:40 <skvidal> we should be able to kill it
18:13:48 <skvidal> I've set a calendar reminder for myself for august 5th
18:13:49 <nirik> ok.
18:13:56 <threebean> I've got two open infra tickets for fedmsg stuff -- one for websockets proxying, another for a fedmsg CA. No rush, just remembering.
18:13:59 <skvidal> if the box ain't gone by then - I go bug mo and spot and lmacken until it is
18:14:07 <misc> skvidal: set a cron job to make it explode :)
18:14:17 <skvidal> threebean: I've been noodling on the CA thing
18:14:26 <nirik> threebean: yeah, I hope to get to those sometime too. ;)
18:14:28 <jaysonr> hi all - sorry i'm late
18:14:44 <threebean> :)
18:15:00 <abadger1999> threebean: ah yeah -- the websockets thing seems like it could be explained some.
18:15:08 <nirik> threebean: how is the bus looking in staging? I assume those two tickets need fixing before we look at when we can move to prod?
18:15:13 <abadger1999> since it's a relatively new thing
18:15:41 <abadger1999> that we've never deployed before.
18:15:55 <threebean> nirik: Here's a table of the stg status - https://github.com/ralphbean/fedmsg/blob/develop/doc/status.rst
18:16:50 <threebean> abadger1999: agreed. so websockets is a natural fit for doing push-based notifications to a web client. we used to dabble with Orbited as a TCP proxy, but websockets seems to have out-moded it.
18:16:53 <nirik> threebean: ok, so is the thought to get it all working in stg and push to prod at once? or just get a good bunch done, enable those in prod and work on the others as time permits?
18:17:20 <threebean> nirik: I'd originally thought: "get it all working in stg first" but I'm leaning towards a move to production sooner.
18:17:21 <skvidal> threebean: so - websockets, unless I misunderstand is going to need some intriguing access to get to the server side from outside of phx2
18:17:31 <skvidal> threebean: is it possible we can use websockets tunneld via vpn?
18:17:41 <threebean> nirik: reason being that my modules-staging dir is getting unwieldly and I'd like to slim it down before growing it too much more.
18:17:44 <skvidal> threebean: i guess - I am unclear what is going to be connecting to the websocket server
18:18:16 <skvidal> threebean: sorry for the pile-on of questions
18:18:25 <nirik> threebean: yeah, I think it makes sense to get the ones done setup and working in prod and then do another stg batch.
18:18:52 <threebean> skvidal: (np) -- the client will be a browser, most of which support native websockets-on-the-client these days.
18:19:18 <skvidal> threebean: so - an END user needs to have a full-duplex connection to this service?
18:19:53 <threebean> well, for the service I have in mind, they only *need* the server->client stream.
18:19:58 <skvidal> threebean: how well does that cope with things like loadbalancers?
18:20:22 <threebean> *should* be fine, although I've no experience with it in practice.
18:21:07 <nirik> we can work on getting that working and sorted out of band?
18:21:14 <skvidal> sure
18:21:20 <threebean> yeah :)
18:21:22 <nirik> any other apps news?
18:21:59 <nirik> ok, moving along
18:22:04 <nirik> #topic https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_Infrastructure_Security_2012
18:22:22 <nirik> I need to gather more info and then ping rbergeron when she's back and see what kind of budget we can get.
18:22:53 <skvidal> have we settled on a _when_?
18:23:07 <nirik> if anyone interested in attending could add themselves to: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_Infrastructure_Security_2012/attendees that would be great.
18:23:11 <nirik> skvidal: nope...
18:23:28 <abadger1999> i think I mentioned this last meeting when you weren't here -- does it make sense to decide who needs to attend, who we want to attend, and then decide where it makes sense to have it?
18:23:30 * dgilmore would prefer september or november
18:23:41 * dgilmore really wants to be there
18:23:50 <skvidal> abadger1999: sure
18:23:55 <dgilmore> but im going to australia for 6 week in just over 2 weeks
18:24:04 <dgilmore> and ill be travelling most of october
18:24:13 <nirik> abadger1999: yeah, it could.
18:24:14 * relrod would prefer before end of august because of the semester starting :/
18:25:02 <nirik> relrod: I think thats going to be too soon to have logistics sorted... also we will be in alpha freeze at the beginning of aug...
18:25:08 <abadger1999> skvidal: I think you have the best overview of who's been working on what... do you want to make up the short list of must-have people?
18:25:23 <skvidal> umm - sure?
18:25:34 <abadger1999> heh, not to put you on the spot :-)
18:25:45 <relrod> nirik: :(
18:25:56 <skvidal> we need captain fas, captain infra, capt various-kinds-of-auth
18:26:01 <abadger1999> I could come up with a list too... but I'm not sure if people like mricon are must-haves or would-like-to-haves
18:26:03 <nirik> relrod: do you have a fall break or the like?
18:26:18 <skvidal> abadger1999: I think mricon would be happy to come by NC for a while ;)
18:26:29 <skvidal> but I doubt he is a MUST have
18:26:36 * relrod pulls up the college calendar
18:27:06 <skvidal> also - if anyone is thinking of doing this in the first week of october - you have another thing coming :)
18:27:12 <dgilmore> not sure im a must have but would like to work on ca bits
18:27:18 <dgilmore> as well as a few others
18:27:30 <dgilmore> auth stuff etc
18:28:03 <relrod> nirik: yeah that could work actually I think
18:28:26 <dgilmore> skvidal: im pretty much out all of october
18:28:44 <nirik> I think primary we need: fas developers, sysadmin folks who can work on the setup part, possibly packaging if we still need packages for pam modules/etc.
18:29:08 <smooge> I can make this easy.. While I would love to attend.. I think my usefulness would be small... so you can skip me in the scheduling unless you find a reason I have to be there :)
18:29:31 <skvidal> smooge: I thought you were captain various-kinds-of-auth
18:29:38 <nirik> if dgilmore could make it we could sort out sign* security/management processes, which would be a good secondary goal.
18:29:39 <skvidal> oh well
18:29:47 <smooge> well I can be :)
18:30:09 <smooge> skvidal, I just wanted to make your job of many body program as easy as possible
18:30:26 * skvidal wonders how he got saddled with this
18:30:30 * skvidal glowers at abadger1999
18:30:42 <abadger1999> :-)
18:31:12 <dgilmore> nirik: id like to talk with smart people about our ca setup
18:31:44 <abadger1999> skvidal: You could put on the wiki [needed roles] Captain FAS, Captain pam, [...] Captain Reynolds, and then make sure we have someone from each.
18:31:45 <nirik> ok, so lets work on: a short list of must have folks, and nice to have folks... and gather more info?
18:31:58 <skvidal> abadger1999: guess who is captain fas? :)
18:32:04 <skvidal> abadger1999: captain tightpants is more like it
18:32:20 <nirik> dgilmore: for koji?
18:32:29 <skvidal> dgilmore: I'd like to discuss the ca stuff with you, actually.
18:32:32 <dgilmore> nirik: yeah
18:32:52 <abadger1999> nirik: yeah, we can probably come up with our list of people concurrent with asking rbergeron about budget/template of what an organizer needs to know/turn in to make it work.
18:33:40 <nirik> yep
18:34:00 <nirik> #action nirik to continue to work out plan and scheduling and budget for a fad.
18:34:13 <dgilmore> skvidal: anytime
18:34:17 <skvidal> dgilmore: ok
18:35:06 <nirik> ok, moving on then? or anything else we should discuss on fad?
18:35:33 <nirik> #topic Upcoming Tasks/Items
18:35:33 <nirik> #info 2012-06-26 Fedora 15 end of life.
18:35:33 <nirik> #info 2012-07-05 remove people with pkgdb bugzilla issues.
18:35:33 <nirik> #info 2012-07-05 nag fi-apprentices
18:35:33 <nirik> #info 2012-07-12 drop inactive apprentices.
18:35:36 <nirik> #info 2012-08-07 to 2012-08-21 F18 Alpha Freeze
18:35:38 <nirik> #info 2012-08-21 F18 Alpha release.
18:35:50 <nirik> I had f15 eol on there still because I didn't see the announcement.
18:35:56 <nirik> I guess it's waiting on rbergeron being back
18:36:08 <nirik> anything else folks would like to schedule or note?
18:36:14 <nirik> I have some things:
18:36:26 <nirik> a) 6.3 updates. Next week?
18:36:43 <skvidal> sure - or we can apply them all tomorrow
18:36:46 <nirik> b) hosted03 -> hosted-lists01 migration? where were we on that?
18:36:46 <skvidal> what could go wrong?
18:36:58 <skvidal> nirik: have we done enough speed tests?
18:36:59 <nirik> heh.
18:37:18 <nirik> c) hosted03 -> hosted01/02 migration redux
18:37:42 <skvidal> smooge: were you working on the hosted lists thing?
18:37:44 <smooge> I am doing mailing list transitions next week. 11 will be EPEL -> fedoraprojects. 12 I hope to have hosted -> lists.hosted
18:37:54 <skvidal> cool
18:38:27 <nirik> smooge: cool. You need me to file outage tickets/announce those? or you got it? any particular times?
18:38:54 <smooge> I am waiting on some people in RHIT to tell me when they want to go to PHX2. If I don't have it by Monday.. Kevin and I will come up with a date and I will go
18:39:01 <nirik> skvidal: on c) it looked like it was reasonably ok performance wise for me with nfs... but If you have some more heavy hitting you could do against it, that would be great!
18:39:14 <smooge> nirik, I will be putting in the tickets tomorrow.
18:39:15 <skvidal> I will see if I can get to it
18:39:21 <skvidal> nirik: what's your timeline for making that switch, again
18:39:53 <nirik> if we could do it at least a week or so before alpha freeze that would be nice...
18:40:07 <nirik> but I guess hosted isn't frozen anyhow in alpha/beta...
18:40:22 <nirik> smooge: sounds good.
18:41:26 <nirik> ok, anything else upcoming?
18:42:23 <nirik> #topic Open Floor
18:42:28 <nirik> anything for open floor?
18:42:40 * relrod will set up the fedorahosted app on hosted01 this weekend for people to play with next week
18:42:55 <samkottler> I got pulled out into a meeting earlier, but I'm interested in becoming an infra apprentice
18:43:46 <skvidal> relrod: how weil the hosted app deal with hosted01/hosted02 split?
18:44:06 <jaysonr> i was late getting here, but smooge helped fisnish getting me set up as an apprentice last meeting - not sure where to start helping out.
18:44:16 <skvidal> relrod: also - for maybe sometime in the future - if we end up sharding out projects to various servers - any idea on amount of modification necessary to make that fly?
18:44:29 <relrod> skvidal: shouldn't matter at all, as long as the repo dirs (/git, /hg, etc, etc) remain in sync.
18:44:41 <skvidal> relrod: and if they don't?
18:44:43 <nirik> samkottler / jaysonr: we can help point you the right way in #fedora-admin after the meeting. ;)
18:44:53 <samkottler> nirik: great, thank you :)
18:44:54 <skvidal> relrod: ie: if we split them so that we only have the bits necessary on a set of hosts?
18:45:12 <jaysonr> nirik: thanks
18:45:14 <relrod> skvidal: Well it'd be the same as if you followed the (current) SOP.
18:45:28 <skvidal> ok
18:46:58 <nirik> related to that...
18:47:00 <relrod> skvidal: as for sharding out to different servers, the CLI doesn't care where it's run. Run it on whatever server you want, and it'll set up the project on that server. We could put in sanity checks ("this project should really be processed on hosted123 not hosted456, are you sure you know what you're doing? Y/n")
18:47:21 <skvidal> relrod: well the goal I'd have is patching it into dns
18:47:25 <skvidal> so when you make project foo
18:47:44 <skvidal> it creates a dns entry foo.fedorahosted.org and points that to a specific server (or a ocuple of servers, depending)
18:47:48 <nirik> we may be setting up a hosted-agilo01 or something... I can't get the agilo trac plugin to play nice with others. we have 2 groups that really want to use it.
18:48:09 <skvidal> nirik: so - that's how we can start it
18:48:12 <nirik> so, this would be one way to test that... ie, if you want a agilo instance, it has to setup on that hose.
18:48:14 <nirik> host.
18:48:17 <skvidal> we can move to foo.fedorahosted.org
18:48:26 <skvidal> for those folks who want to use agilo
18:48:29 <relrod> skvidal: well that might be interesting (because it'll have to commit to the dns repo to do that, right?)
18:48:30 <skvidal> and just point them over to there
18:48:37 <skvidal> nirik: same - backend gluster FS, of course
18:48:43 <skvidal> relrod: indeed
18:49:01 <skvidal> we have a, currently unused, user setup to do things like that
18:49:27 <skvidal> brb
18:49:45 * nirik nods.
18:49:47 * lmacken rolls in super late
18:49:55 <nirik> ok, we can look at testing this out with the agilo stuff...
18:50:06 <nirik> hey lmacken. Any app news to note this week?
18:50:25 <relrod> skvidal: so perhaps we write a wrapper script for lockbox that: 1) makes the dns commit, 2) uses ansible/func/whatever to `fedorahosted -p 123` (where 123 is the request ID) on a given hostedXX box.
18:50:28 <lmacken> nirik: openhw2012 work, thanks to skvidal, relrod, and mizmo for their help.
18:50:56 <skvidal> relrod: maybe - more thoughts, i suspect
18:51:00 <lmacken> nothing else this week other than that. I'll have that app done this week.
18:51:02 <skvidal> relrod: but out of band from this meeting
18:51:07 <nirik> lmacken: cool.
18:51:14 <relrod> skvidal: sounds good
18:51:58 <nirik> lmacken: did we want to announce packager/tagger? or was there still some polishing up happening there?
18:52:38 <lmacken> nirik: I think we're pretty much ready... I was worried about a few bugs last week, but none are really blockers as the app just mostly works.
18:52:40 <relrod> and yes, it recognizes agilo needing to be processed on a box with 'agilo' in the hostname already. https://github.com/CodeBlock/fedorahosted/blob/master/bin/fedorahosted#L184
18:53:06 <nirik> did we solve/fix the running out of space issue ?
18:53:08 <threebean> nirik: I've got a CLI tool for the packages app in review now. It'll be a bit before it makes it into stable though.
18:53:09 <abadger1999> Did we get the disk full problem sorted out?
18:53:11 <lmacken> nirik: we also need to get our inode monitoring setup on those boxes, as we had a backed up cronjob that caused another explosion recently
18:53:17 <threebean> nirik: shouldn't block an announcement, though.
18:53:39 <nirik> huh. I thought I had setup nagios to monitor that...
18:53:39 <nirik> I can doublecheck
18:53:44 <lmacken> for some reason the 'yum makecache' cron job for fedora packages started flipping out for some unknown reason, and prevented the tagger beaker cleanup script from running.
18:54:04 <abadger1999> are they the same job or separate jobs?
18:54:09 <lmacken> different...
18:54:11 <skvidal> lmacken: the yum makecahce script that I saw was segfaulting
18:54:22 <skvidal> lmacken: which means something is VERY wrong further down than yum
18:54:26 <lmacken> can we tweak cron to prevent one from blocking another?
18:54:32 <lmacken> skvidal: yeah, it needs a good hard look
18:55:00 <lmacken> skvidal: that's J5 code that needs some review... it definitely worked fine on community01.dev
18:55:30 <skvidal> I do not know how you make that code segfault w/o maybe replacing various libraries that python calls
18:55:39 <nirik> I've seen some sporadic timeouts on the bugs pages too... but not enough pattern to really nail down.
18:55:48 <skvidal> the makecache code is..... not very complicated
18:55:57 <lmacken> nirik: yup, the bugs page is hurting after the new bugzilla upgrade... since we can't do multicalls anymore
18:56:09 <abadger1999> nirik: Oh -about bugzilla -- do we need to coordinate with red hat in order to test the python-bugzilla update?
18:56:11 <lmacken> I'll give the bugs page another look next week, as I think I can improve some of those queries
18:56:38 <nirik> lmacken: you might ask pingou and/or tibbs to look at your queries... they have poked at the python bugzilla stuff a lot recently....
18:57:07 <lmacken> nirik: cool
18:57:09 <nirik> abadger1999: good point. I think we can test it... we just need to see that it doesn't cause a ton of queries next to the old one.
18:57:27 <abadger1999> <nod>
18:57:46 <nirik> lmacken: if packages could also have a feature to show all bugs in one page that would be nice for me at least too. ;) Thats what I used the pkgdb one to list...
18:57:52 <lmacken> here is the bugzilla
18:57:59 <lmacken> multicall issue we were hitting: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=824241
18:58:00 <nirik> #info need to test out new python-bugzilla with all our apps.
18:58:36 <lmacken> and new Python
18:58:38 <nirik> lmacken: ok
18:59:11 <nirik> ok, anyone have anything more? or shall we call it a meeting?
18:59:21 <lmacken> we updated python recently, it caused explosions, and we reverted it. have we made any more progress since?
19:00:08 * lmacken seems to recall us hitting https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=750555#c76
19:00:24 <nirik> I didn't recall reverting it... I thought we just restarted things and they started working.
19:00:28 <nirik> skvidal: you recall?
19:00:32 * skvidal looks up
19:00:44 <skvidal> the python update
19:00:49 <skvidal> I don't think we reverted it, did we?
19:00:55 <skvidal> I thought we restarted the things it broke
19:01:07 <lmacken> oh, excellent. in that case, I'll look into setting up hash randomization for our apps in staging next week.
19:01:07 <skvidal> yah we did
19:01:13 <skvidal> the issue was os vs posix
19:01:24 <skvidal> for which call was it.
19:01:30 <lmacken> cool
19:01:34 <skvidal> the module moved
19:01:36 <skvidal> I remember this
19:02:17 <nirik> lmacken: great.
19:02:27 <skvidal> one sec - finding the bug to confirm
19:02:33 <nirik> #action lmacken to work on hash randomization for apps next week in staging.
19:02:33 <lmacken> skvidal: I just posed it earlier
19:02:41 <lmacken> **posted
19:02:59 <skvidal> lmacken: that was for f16
19:03:27 <lmacken> and RHEL
19:03:27 <skvidal> I was looking at the item for el6 that we ran into
19:03:45 <skvidal> ok
19:04:52 <nirik> lmacken: should we schedule a bodhi 2.0 meetup? figure out status and such?
19:05:03 <skvidal> nod - moved os.random to posix
19:05:49 <lmacken> nirik: yeah, sounds good to me. let's touch base next week and schedule something.
19:05:50 <skvidal> and the conversation from then in #fedora-noc said
19:05:58 <skvidal> I restarted a bunch of apps to cope with the change
19:06:04 <skvidal> but I left the python update in place
19:06:12 * skvidal is just making sure it is what I thought it was :)
19:06:28 <nirik> lmacken: ok. I think if we actually schedule something we will make progress. ;) It's easy to keep putting off...
19:07:20 <lmacken> nirik: yeah, true :) the porting has been going well, and I'm pretty much at the point now where I'm going through years worth of feature requests and figuring out how to implement/integrate. But yeah, we should meet and discuss them soon.
19:08:05 * lmacken will sync up the bodhi2 status on the wiki & trac next week and plan a meeting to review & prioritize
19:08:07 <nirik> lmacken: yeah. Would be a great time to make sure people are on the same page/features make sense to implement, etc.
19:08:43 <nirik> I did see till was attaching a bunch of patches... might also be time to do a 1.x roll up if those patches are worth pushing out before 2.0 is done.
19:09:10 <lmacken> nirik: yup, definitely.
19:09:25 <nirik> ok, cool...
19:09:32 <nirik> if nothing else, will close out in a minute.
19:09:52 <smooge> nothing from me
19:10:18 <nirik> thanks for coming everyone!
19:10:21 <skvidal> indeed
19:10:21 <nirik> #endmeeting
11 years, 9 months
Summary/Minutes from today's irc support sig meeting (2012-07-05)
by Kevin Fenzi
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#fedora-meeting: IRC Support SIG (2012-07-05)
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Meeting started by nirik at 17:00:02 UTC. The full logs are available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-07-05/irc-support-si...
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Meeting summary
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* init process (nirik, 17:00:02)
* Week in review (nirik, 17:04:23)
* LINK: http://fedora.theglaserfamily.org/ircstats/fedora-weekly.html
(nirik, 17:04:23)
* ticket 107 - Mass Removal Of Stagnant Voting Members (nirik,
17:06:22)
* ticket 119 - Kudos to randomuser (nirik, 17:06:46)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/ticket/119 (nirik,
17:07:07)
* ticket 120 - Site navigation (nirik, 17:08:01)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/ticket/120 (nirik,
17:08:13)
* ACTION: FranciscoD|phone write wiki page on filing trac tickets
(FranciscoD|phone, 17:16:40)
* ticket 118 - Invite FranciscoD to #fedora-ops (nirik, 17:17:37)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/IRC_support_sig#Channels
(EvilBob, 17:23:59)
* Open Floor (nirik, 17:37:27)
Meeting ended at 17:41:39 UTC.
Action Items
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* FranciscoD|phone write wiki page on filing trac tickets
Action Items, by person
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* FranciscoD|phone
* FranciscoD|phone write wiki page on filing trac tickets
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
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* nirik (53)
* EvilBob (52)
* dcr226 (36)
* Forty-Bot (12)
* FranciscoD|phone (11)
* N3LRX (8)
* Khaytsus (3)
* zodbot (3)
* pingou (3)
* sdrfed17 (2)
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17:00:02 <nirik> #startmeeting IRC Support SIG (2012-07-05)
17:00:02 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Jul 5 17:00:02 2012 UTC. The chair is nirik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
17:00:02 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic.
17:00:02 <nirik> #meetingname irc-support-sig
17:00:02 <nirik> #topic init process
17:00:02 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'irc-support-sig'
17:00:11 <nirik> anyone around for a irc support sig meeting?
17:00:16 <Forty-Bot> yes
17:00:27 * EvilBob
17:01:08 <Forty-Bot> so what is an irc support sig?
17:02:17 * N3LRX
17:02:30 <nirik> Forty-Bot: see https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/ and https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/IRC_support_sig
17:03:20 <Forty-Bot> ah
17:03:31 * pingou
17:03:39 <Khaytsus> Sorry I'm late, a dog ran over my car.
17:03:45 <pingou> :/
17:03:55 <Forty-Bot> heh
17:04:15 <nirik> ok, lets go ahead and dive in then...
17:04:23 <nirik> #topic Week in review
17:04:23 <nirik> http://fedora.theglaserfamily.org/ircstats/fedora-weekly.html
17:04:24 * FranciscoD|phone
17:04:47 * nirik was gone this last week. How were things?
17:05:11 <EvilBob> SSDD
17:05:26 <nirik> indeed.
17:06:19 <nirik> ok, if nothing out of the ordinary, moving on...
17:06:22 <nirik> #topic ticket 107 - Mass Removal Of Stagnant Voting Members
17:06:35 <nirik> This is on me. I'll try and get it done before next meeting.
17:06:46 <nirik> #topic ticket 119 - Kudos to randomuser
17:07:07 <nirik> https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/ticket/119
17:07:25 <nirik> great work randomuser!
17:07:28 <pingou> +1
17:07:39 <FranciscoD|phone> +1
17:07:42 <N3LRX> +1
17:07:51 <FranciscoD|phone> :)
17:08:01 <nirik> #topic ticket 120 - Site navigation
17:08:13 <nirik> https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/ticket/120
17:08:41 <nirik> I'm not sure how we can really simplfy things...
17:08:47 <nirik> but very open to ideas to do so.
17:09:34 <Khaytsus> nirik: Looks like user error unless there was really a site problem.
17:09:54 <nirik> perhaps we can leave this open and ask the user for more info? I don't quite understand what problem they ran into.
17:10:14 <EvilBob> Thanks for your input and perseverance
17:10:43 <EvilBob> IIRC it also took the user several hours to register with nickserv
17:11:10 <N3LRX> Aside from modifying trac what can we do?
17:11:15 <EvilBob> It's not that hard to set up a FAS account
17:11:43 <EvilBob> no matter what the cause it's beyond the scope of the IRC SIG
17:11:48 <nirik> yeah.
17:12:22 <nirik> so, close? or ask for more info? or ?
17:12:39 <Forty-Bot> more info maybe
17:12:39 <EvilBob> "Thanks for your input and perseverance " resolve as closed
17:12:48 <Forty-Bot> that was a little unclear
17:12:58 <Forty-Bot> @the ticket
17:13:02 <N3LRX> I say close. There is nothing we can do about the inner workings of trac.
17:13:32 <EvilBob> Forty-Bot: no matter what the cause it's beyond the scope of the IRC SIG
17:13:40 <Forty-Bot> true
17:13:41 <N3LRX> or the fas for that matter.
17:13:56 <FranciscoD|phone> I can write up a wiki page with screenshots if that would help?
17:13:57 <EvilBob> N3LRX: +1
17:14:21 <nirik> FranciscoD|phone: that might be nice in general for 'how to file a fedorahosted ticket'...
17:14:26 <nirik> not just irc support sig.
17:14:32 <Forty-Bot> hmm
17:14:42 <Forty-Bot> picture guides are always nice
17:14:53 <EvilBob> picture guides suck
17:15:13 <EvilBob> people want them in 100 languages and they are not translatable
17:15:15 <nirik> they do get easily out of date.
17:15:23 <FranciscoD|phone> No harm having one though..
17:15:33 <nirik> true also, although trac doesn't support multiple languages very well
17:15:45 <nirik> anyhow, thats beyond the scope of us. :)
17:15:45 <EvilBob> Fair enough
17:16:06 <EvilBob> I say let FranciscoD|phone rock out a wiki howto
17:16:13 <Forty-Bot> ^
17:16:16 <EvilBob> let/endorce whatever
17:16:40 <FranciscoD|phone> #action FranciscoD|phone write wiki page on filing trac tickets
17:16:46 <nirik> sure. I'm fine with closing this ticket...
17:16:47 <EvilBob> So +1 to that, maybe make a note of that being worked on in the ticket?
17:16:52 * nirik nods.
17:17:26 <nirik> ok, moving on then?
17:17:29 <Forty-Bot> yes
17:17:37 <nirik> #topic ticket 118 - Invite FranciscoD to #fedora-ops
17:17:38 <FranciscoD|phone> ++
17:17:52 <nirik> +1 from me. ;) I can vote in ticket as well.
17:18:01 <EvilBob> I've asked for clarification on this
17:18:15 <EvilBob> Being without email I don't know that it ever was.
17:18:32 <nirik> I don't see any clarifications on the ticket...
17:18:47 <EvilBob> Last I remember hearing from dcr was "If I have clarify it then forget it"
17:19:09 <EvilBob> Close the ticket
17:19:22 <nirik> what did you want clarified? if it was for voting or ?
17:19:34 <EvilBob> We have two types of invites, short term and long term
17:20:01 <EvilBob> a short term invite (less than 2 weeks) only requires a +1
17:20:11 <EvilBob> A long term requires a vote.
17:20:20 <FranciscoD|phone> It was a short term invite. 2 weeks iirc.
17:20:42 <nirik> ah, I see... but if he put it up for a vote, it would be long term no?
17:20:57 <EvilBob> Either way the ticket needs to be clarified before it can be addressed.
17:21:01 * dcr226 is late, sorry
17:21:09 <nirik> speak of the devil. ;)
17:21:13 <EvilBob> dcr226: It's OK, we are done talking about you
17:21:15 <dcr226> eurgh..what did I do?
17:21:25 * dcr226 points at Khaytsus, he did it
17:21:51 <EvilBob> dcr226: we are talking about ticket 118
17:21:57 <dcr226> ok
17:22:18 <EvilBob> dcr226: I asked you to clarify the intent of the ticket, short term or long term invite.
17:22:29 <FranciscoD|phone> The two weeks are finished too. I hung out when I could. Thanks for the invite dcr226 :)
17:22:51 <dcr226> I'm not sure about this 2 weeks/permanent thing, I wanted to invite FranciscoD|phone because he helps out loads on #fedora, from a support perspective and a channel management perspective
17:23:13 <dcr226> the purpose of the invite was with a view to at some point either me, or someone else proposing him for ops, so I guess it was a long-term suggestion
17:23:36 <EvilBob> dcr226: see the "Invited contributors can be allowed temporary invitee status by nomination from an op and a second from any other operator for a maximum of 2 weeks. For longer term invitee status a vote should be required as defined below. Invitees have no voting privileges as provided those in the irc-support-operators FAS group. "
17:23:46 <Khaytsus> wut
17:23:59 <EvilBob> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/IRC_support_sig#Channels
17:24:30 * nirik is +1 to a longer term invite. Especially since I was gone much of the last 2 weeks. ;)
17:24:30 <dcr226> EvilBob, so does that mean filing a ticket for every 2 week period, or file a ticket for a longer period
17:24:39 <dcr226> +?
17:24:48 <sdrfed17> has the fedora-infrastructure meeting started ?
17:25:00 <dcr226> sorry for my ignorance, I haven't really poked the new rules in too much detail :/
17:25:01 <nirik> sdrfed17: no. thats in about 35min
17:25:03 <dcr226> sdrfed17, see /topic
17:25:12 <N3LRX> +1 for long term invite
17:25:20 <EvilBob> Oh fuck, you been drinking the fenrus02 juice?
17:25:38 <dcr226> eh? I don't know what you mean
17:26:21 <sdrfed17> ok thanks
17:26:41 <dcr226> or perhaps the better question would be: I'd like it to be a long term invite, for the reasons stated...how do I make this happen?
17:26:56 <EvilBob> complain that there is too much bureaucracy, then make it so every damn thing needs a book to define what common sense can tell you.
17:27:29 <dcr226> err, ok..yeah I missed that somewhere..but ok
17:28:29 <EvilBob> all you have to do as I suggested before is to clarify the ticket's intent
17:28:54 <dcr226> ok, "long term"
17:29:07 <EvilBob> It seems that the invite was temporary according to FranciscoD|phone and has expired
17:29:46 * dcr226 *shrugs*, the intention wasn't short term
17:30:03 <EvilBob> So a new ticket will be needed for long term, and also if you want him in the channel during the 2 week discussion/voting period you should file a ticket for that.
17:30:26 <dcr226> I didn't invite him for any kind of voting/back room/secret handshake motive, it was purely to get him involved in #fedora-ops for the obvious benefits
17:30:35 <EvilBob> I guess they could be merged in to a single new ticket
17:30:46 <dcr226> Hah..so I've got to file 3 tickets in total to get him involved in #fedora-ops?
17:30:52 <nirik> how about clarify in ticket and vote over the next week?
17:30:59 <EvilBob> No, you could have just filed one proper ticket
17:31:05 <dcr226> LOL
17:31:20 <EvilBob> This is why I asked you about it the day it was filed
17:31:27 <dcr226> so what, create a "long term" ticket, so he has to wait 2 weeks before he's even allowed into -ops, while we deliberate and push meetings back?
17:31:37 <EvilBob> so it could be fixed, now two weeks or more later...
17:31:46 <dcr226> so why can't we just sort it now?
17:32:06 <dcr226> is anyone going to get all excited and seriously oppose his presence in the channel?
17:32:13 <nirik> dcr226: I think the thought was that people didn't vote on it due to not seeing the clarification... so allow time for them to do so.
17:32:28 <EvilBob> dcr226: FranciscoD|phone is not the issue.
17:32:29 <nirik> but I'd be happy to +1 a temp 2 week thing too.
17:32:34 <EvilBob> dcr226: it's about policy
17:32:37 <dcr226> Heh
17:33:00 <EvilBob> dcr226: The actions of others caused this to be needed
17:33:06 <FranciscoD|phone> I wont be around the next few weeks since I'm moving to join university etc. How about we put this on hold temporarily?
17:33:39 <FranciscoD|phone> It would suck if i get a two week invite and I don't IRC for that period ;)
17:33:45 <dcr226> ok, so for clarity...I need to file a $(2 week ticket) and then a $(long term ticket)?
17:34:32 <EvilBob> dcr226: you could file a ticket asking for both
17:35:04 <dcr226> ok, if thats the way it is..I'll do that then
17:35:08 <EvilBob> once there is a +1 to the temp then they could join.
17:35:38 <dcr226> I don't want it to be an awkward process for potential new ops ideally..but we are where we are
17:35:38 <N3LRX> I'd say file one ticket and clarify intent in the existing ticket no sense in opening up another one.
17:35:52 <nirik> ok, anything else on this?
17:36:23 <EvilBob> It's not about Francisco at all. It's about the policy alone, a policy that had to be created because of people that felt a 1 time invite was lifetime in the past.
17:36:55 <dcr226> I'm short on time this evening, so I may not get around to filing that ticket...so if anyone else has a few minutes spare to do so that would be cool
17:37:26 * nirik can if dcr226 doesn't get to it.
17:37:27 <nirik> #topic Open Floor
17:37:30 <EvilBob> dcr226: I'll get it done for you
17:37:34 <nirik> anything for open floor?
17:37:41 <dcr226> <slight side note> seeing as the ratification for a temp invite is just a +1 from someone else, I don't think there is a need for tickets for a temp invite
17:38:05 <EvilBob> dcr226: the ticket for a temp is required so there is a record
17:38:09 <dcr226> oh, ok
17:38:36 <EvilBob> This way we know who to blame when they refuse to leave when asked
17:38:40 <dcr226> I'd like the temp invite to be almost instant in honesty
17:38:42 <EvilBob> :0
17:39:02 <EvilBob> dcr226: Yeah file the ticket, ask someone to +1 it and it's done
17:39:09 * dcr226 nods
17:39:10 <nirik> also, it can notify folks of a new person thats supposed to be there...
17:39:17 <nirik> they can point to the ticket, etc.
17:39:22 * dcr226 nods again
17:39:40 * dcr226 like a nodding dog, from noddingcestershire, travelling to the land of nod
17:39:58 <EvilBob> you noddy boy
17:40:00 <EvilBob> ;)
17:40:15 <nirik> heh. ok, if nothing else will close out the meeting in a minute...
17:40:24 <EvilBob> I would like to welcome nirik from his vacation. Glad you are home safe.
17:40:26 <dcr226> do you guys get Noddy out there? the kids program?
17:40:38 <EvilBob> dcr226: I've seen it
17:40:47 <dcr226> ok, technically I should be Big Ears
17:40:52 <N3LRX> Yes, welcome back nirik hope you enjoyed your holiday.
17:40:53 <dcr226> ;-)
17:40:53 <nirik> thanks. It was a great time away from the internets. ;)
17:41:29 <nirik> thanks. :)
17:41:35 <nirik> Thanks for coming everyone.
17:41:36 <dcr226> yeah, wb nirik :)
17:41:39 <nirik> #endmeeting
11 years, 9 months
i18n meeting summary (2012-07-05)
by Akira TAGOH
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#fedora-meeting: i18n
=====================
Meeting started by tagoh_ at 05:06:17 UTC. The full logs are available
at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-07-05/i18n.2012-07-0...
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Meeting summary
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* agenda and roll call (tagoh_, 05:06:27)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2012-07-05
(tagoh_, 05:06:38)
* F18 (tagoh_, 05:10:06)
* LINK:
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/ibus-pinyin-1.4.99.20120620-1.fc1...
(epico, 05:12:13)
* Bugzilla cleanup (tagoh_, 05:45:23)
* Input Methods (tagoh_, 05:48:23)
* Fonts and Rendering (tagoh_, 06:04:03)
* LINK: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphite_(SIL) (juhp, 06:16:57)
* Open Floor (tagoh_, 06:16:58)
Meeting ended at 06:22:08 UTC.
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* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
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* juhp (59)
* epico (22)
* fujiwarat (22)
* pravins (21)
* anish_ (15)
* zodbot (5)
* jni (4)
* dueno (1)
* paragan (1)
* fedbot (1)
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11 years, 9 months
FAmNA Meeting (04 July 2012)
by inode0
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#fedora-meeting: FAmNA
======================
Meeting started by inode0 at 01:00:03 UTC. The full logs are available
at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-07-04/famna.2012-07-...
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Meeting summary
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* Roll Call (inode0, 01:00:14)
* Announcements (inode0, 01:01:53)
* Renaming FAmNA trac instance(s) (inode0, 01:04:56)
* AGREED: FAmNA doesn't have much interest in changing the names of
its trac instances at this time (inode0, 01:12:30)
* FADNA 2012 (inode0, 01:14:03)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Ambassador_Day_North_America_2012
(graphite6, 01:15:17)
* LINK:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Ambassador_Day_North_America_2010
(inode0, 01:27:24)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Ambassador_Day_North_America_2012
(graphite6, 01:27:33)
* Proposal for distributing Fedora swag outside of conferences/events
(inode0, 01:31:20)
* Open Floor (inode0, 01:36:34)
Meeting ended at 02:01:45 UTC.
Action Items
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Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
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* inode0 (85)
* MarkDude (37)
* dan408 (36)
* award3535 (35)
* graphite6 (27)
* ianweller (23)
* SGS (11)
* kk4ewt (6)
* dramsey (6)
* zodbot (5)
* scientes (2)
John
11 years, 9 months
[KFI] Rangkuman Meeting 2 July 2012 (FAD Padang)
by Prima Yogi Loviniltra
Dear KFi,
Tadi kita ada meeting mendadak dengan panitia persiapan FAD Padang 2012,
tentang pembahasan dana yang udah cair dari Red Hat.
Berikut lognya :
Minutes:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-id/2012-07-03/fedora-id.2012-07-0...
Minutes (text):
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-id/2012-07-03/fedora-id.2012-07-0...
Log:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-id/2012-07-03/fedora-id.2012-07-0...
Dan jangan lupa untuk hadir meeting besok malam jam 21.00 WIB untuk
membahas seputar Komunitas Fedora-Id
==================
#fedora-id Meeting
==================
Meeting started by jurank_dankkal at 13:28:39 UTC. The full logs are
available athttp://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-id/2012-07-03/fedora-id.2012-07...
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Meeting summary
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* Pengiriman dana FAD Padang 2012, ke panitia di Padang
(jurank_dankkal, 13:29:10)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_Padang_2012#Budget
(jurank_dankkal, 13:36:29)
* ACTION: dana FAD Padang akan di kirimkan ke yoezh4 (jurank_dankkal,
13:37:13)
* dana yang akan saya kirimkan Rp 2.700.000 (jurank_dankkal,
13:37:41)
* dana untuk di Padang T-Shirt=Rp.1.100.000, Food=Rp.1.400.000,
Sticker=Rp.200.000 (jurank_dankkal, 13:40:57)
* Tugas Promo Team (jurank_dankkal, 13:43:05)
* ACTION: Promo Team akan membuat design 2 Spanduk+1 sticker+Guidebook
(jurank_dankkal, 14:04:32)
* FAD Sponsorship (jurank_dankkal, 14:17:35)
* LINK: Sponsorship http://goo.gl/rfwyI (jurank_dankkal, 14:19:44)
* sponsorship saat ini adalah ArbesFM, Telkom Padang dan Semen Padang
(jurank_dankkal, 14:26:37)
* tugas korlap (jurank_dankkal, 14:33:25)
* ACTION: inibudi akan menentukan meeting offline selanjutnya
(jurank_dankkal, 14:52:59)
Meeting ended at 15:07:23 UTC.
Action Items
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* dana FAD Padang akan di kirimkan ke yoezh4
* Promo Team akan membuat design 2 Spanduk+1 sticker+Guidebook
* inibudi akan menentukan meeting offline selanjutnya
Action Items, by person
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* inibudi
* inibudi akan menentukan meeting offline selanjutnya
* yoezh4
* dana FAD Padang akan di kirimkan ke yoezh4
* **UNASSIGNED**
* Promo Team akan membuat design 2 Spanduk+1 sticker+Guidebook
People Present (lines said)
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* jurank_dankkal (174)
* inibudi (144)
* mriza (54)
* yoezh4 (46)
* kernelnotfound (37)
* BlackDragon (27)
* kirinz (25)
* zodbot (18)
* blankxys (14)
* smart4rd1 (10)
* black_ (8)
* erdie1one (7)
* sentabi (3)
* betefive (3)
* hircus (1)
--
*Best Regards,*
*PRIMA YOGI LOVINILTRA*
Fedora Project Contributor & Ambassador
GPG key ID: 4D7DA21A7A961A3A
*M: (6)016 640 0385*
*W: *http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Jurankdankkal
*B: **http://loviniltra.com/*
11 years, 9 months
FAmSco meeting 2012-07-02 minutes
by Christoph Wickert
Minutes:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2012-07-02/famsco.2012-...
Minutes (text):
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2012-07-02/famsco.2012-...
Log:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2012-07-02/famsco.2012-...
Meet you again next week
Monday July 9th
at 17:00 UTC
in #fedora-meeting-2!
Regards,
Christoph
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#fedora-meeting-2: FAmSCo 2012-07-02
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Meeting started by cwickert at 17:00:36 UTC. The full logs are available
at
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Meeting summary
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* Roll call (cwickert, 17:01:26)
* Daniel and Jiri are traveling today (cwickert, 17:04:00)
* present members of FAmSCo: aeperezt, bckurera, cwickert, herlo
(cwickert, 17:04:23)
* nb is in in the channel but seems to be afk (cwickert, 17:04:39)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/report/9 (cwickert,
17:07:14)
* Fedora Realease 17 Party Peru (cwickert, 17:12:57)
* Regulate what regional tracs are needed (cwickert, 17:20:15)
* ACTION: cwickert to talk to kital about renaming
https://fedorahosted.org/emea-swag-tracking/ to
https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-emea/ (cwickert, 17:23:24)
* ACTION: nb to discuss if famna tracker could/should be renamed to
fedora-na for consistency (cwickert, 17:25:40)
* Sponsoring event attendees (cwickert, 17:27:56)
* ACTION: bckurera to work on a new version of
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Sponsoring_event_attendees that
incorporates the ideas from inode0 and OpenSUSE (cwickert,
18:00:29)
* Budget review guidelines (cwickert, 18:03:52)
* FAmSCo goals (cwickert, 18:32:10)
* ACTION: nb and herlo to send a mail about their FAmSCo goals to the
list (cwickert, 18:34:02)
* Action items from previous meetings (cwickert, 18:34:16)
* ACTION: cwickert to update #296 with the relevant links about the
current broken FAD funding process (cwickert, 18:37:54)
Meeting ended at 18:38:56 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* cwickert to talk to kital about renaming
https://fedorahosted.org/emea-swag-tracking/ to
https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-emea/
* nb to discuss if famna tracker could/should be renamed to fedora-na
for consistency
* bckurera to work on a new version of
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Sponsoring_event_attendees that
incorporates the ideas from inode0 and OpenSUSE
* nb and herlo to send a mail about their FAmSCo goals to the list
* cwickert to update #296 with the relevant links about the current
broken FAD funding process
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* bckurera
* bckurera to work on a new version of
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Sponsoring_event_attendees that
incorporates the ideas from inode0 and OpenSUSE
* cwickert
* cwickert to talk to kital about renaming
https://fedorahosted.org/emea-swag-tracking/ to
https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-emea/
* cwickert to update #296 with the relevant links about the current
broken FAD funding process
* herlo
* nb and herlo to send a mail about their FAmSCo goals to the list
* inode0
* bckurera to work on a new version of
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Sponsoring_event_attendees that
incorporates the ideas from inode0 and OpenSUSE
* nb
* nb to discuss if famna tracker could/should be renamed to fedora-na
for consistency
* nb and herlo to send a mail about their FAmSCo goals to the list
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
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