Re: [Ambassadors] Weekly APAC meeting minutes
by Truong Anh Tuan
Hi all,
Please kindly check out today meeting minutes here:
Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-09-22/apac.2012-09-2...
Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-09-22/apac.2012-09-2...
Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-09-22/apac.2012-09-2...
Meeting summary
Roll Call (tuanta, 04:02:35)
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:APAC_Ambassadors_2012-09-22#Agenda (dramsey, 04:02:54)
News from FAmSCo (tuanta, 04:05:27)
Review action items from last meeting (tuanta, 04:08:46)
APAC Events: plans, status, reports (tuanta, 04:09:15)
https://speakerdeck.com/u/tuanta/p/foss-community (tuanta, 04:11:58)
http://azneitaph.wordpress.com/2012/08/29/event-report-linuxday-2012/ (azneita, 04:17:57)
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/APAC/Reimbursement (tuanta, 04:24:15)
See all details about fund request as well as reimbursement at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/APAC/Reimbursement (tuanta, 04:25:59)
FAmSCo and Regional teams call for Preparation of Media/SWAG - Thu 2012-09-27 (tuanta, 04:28:16)
Regional Teams Submit Funding Request For Swag/Media Production - Fri 2012-09-28 until Fri 2012-10-05 (tuanta, 04:28:25)
Release Event Submission Deadline - Fri 2012-11-09 (tuanta, 04:28:32)
Hold Release Events and Publish Event Reports - Tue 2012-11-27 until Fri 2012-12-28 (tuanta, 04:28:41)
ACTION: tuanta propose One "central" place to list all discs/swag needs (per release) for APAC ambassadors (tuanta, 04:40:28)
Trac tickets (tuanta, 04:40:50)
Open Floor (tuanta, 04:49:32)
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Bid_for_Philippines_2012 (tuanta, 05:02:01)
IDEA: PH team prepare for submitting a FUDCOn APAC 2013 bid (tuanta, 05:03:59)
IDEA: let the topic Open discussing about FUDCon APAC 2013 to the next meeting (tuanta, 05:06:13)
Meeting ended at 05:06:34 UTC (full logs).
Action items
tuanta propose One "central" place to list all discs/swag needs (per release) for APAC ambassadors
Action items, by person
tuanta
tuanta propose One "central" place to list all discs/swag needs (per release) for APAC ambassadors
People present (lines said)
tuanta (122)
azneita (98)
arifiauo (28)
zodbot (16)
dan408- (11)
inode0 (11)
dramsey (6)
Kind regards,
Tuan TRUONG
Fedora Ambassador
11 years, 7 months
2012-08-27, 2012-09-10, 2012-09-17 - Fedora QA Meetings - recap
by Adam Williamson
So instead of flooding the lists, here's a Bumper Recap of the last
three QA meetings, as I didn't get around to doing them at the time.
As always, minutes and IRC transcript available on the wiki at
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20120827 ,
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20120910 and
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20120917 . The 09-03 meeting
did not happen due to holidays.
Next meeting is scheduled for 2012-09-24 at 1500 UTC in
#fedora-meeting.
If you have topics you think we should bring up at the meeting, please
add them to the Wiki page at
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20120924 . Thanks!
2012-08-27
----------
TOPIC: Incomplete anaconda functionality for Fedora 18
=======================================================================
* Group discussed the issues raised in the ticket[1] and agreed
on three recommendations to be submitted to the ticket on
behalf of the QA team:
1. We consider it unlikely Alpha will be releasable by
the time of go/no-go on Aug 29/30.
2. We don't believe that reverting to oldUI is a great
idea.
3. We are generally of the opinion that a planned slip
longer than 2 weeks should be accompanied by a period
where the release freeze is lifted.
TOPIC: Fedora 18 general status check / mini blocker review
=======================================================================
* See wiki page for results of mini blocker review
TOPIC: Open Floor
=======================================================================
N/A
ACTION ITEMS
=======================================================================
* adamw to float proposed recommendation #4 on the mailing list
and add it to the ticket if it gets sufficient support
2012-09-10
----------
TOPIC: Fedora 18 general status check / mini blocker review
=======================================================================
* TC6 was out, very close to doing an RC1 but needed a new
anaconda build
* See wiki page for results of mini blocker review
TOPIC: Release criteria revision
=======================================================================
* Topic was tabled due to time taken by the NTH/blocker review
TOPIC: Open Floor
=======================================================================
N/A
ACTION ITEMS
=======================================================================
* tflink to build test image w/ new lorax to test #855289
2012-09-17
----------
TOPIC: Fedora 18 Alpha wind-up / Beta preparation
=======================================================================
* We needed to write up the common bugs page and lobby for
inclusion of major issues in the release announcement
* Post-Alpha stable updates push had not yet happened due to
issues with the signing server
* Nightly images should start showing up after the first stable
push
* We agreed to build smoketest images frequently before the
first TC date
* tflink proposed having freeze entrance criteria that must be
satisfied before the freeze starts, to avoid overlong freeze
periods
TOPIC: Release criteria revision
=======================================================================
* We agreed to drop the 'uncategorized package groups'
criterion
* We agreed kparal was going in the right direction on the
'default package set' criterion revision, further refinement
to occur on-list
* We were broadly happy with the very minimal partitioning
requirements used for F18 Alpha, though we may wish to
require installation into free space to work in future
* We agreed in general that Beta and Final partitioning
requirements should be much tighter, but it was hard to
decide on specifics without seeing more details of the
planned newUI design
TOPIC: Naming of TCs/RCs
=======================================================================
* Topic tabled due to time taken by previous topics
TOPIC: Open Floor
=======================================================================
N/A
ACTION ITEMS
=======================================================================
* adamw to find out who's writing the release announcement and
make sure it calls out the biggest Alpha bugs
* tflink to draft up a freeze entrance requirements proposal
for the list and we can take the idea from there
* pschindl to kill 'uncategorized package groups' criterion
* kparal to refine 'release-blocking package sets' criterion
* adamw to refine alpha partitioning criterion
[1] https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/941
--
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora
http://www.happyassassin.net
11 years, 7 months
i18n meeting summary (2012-09-20)
by Akira TAGOH
=====================
#fedora-meeting: i18n
=====================
Meeting started by tagoh_ at 06:02:36 UTC. The full logs are available
at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-09-20/i18n.2012-09-2...
.
Meeting summary
---------------
* agenda and roll call (tagoh_, 06:02:37)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2012-09-20
(tagoh_, 06:02:38)
* Upcoming schedule (tagoh_, 06:07:16)
* Outstanding topics (tagoh_, 06:10:16)
* #2: docs i18n beat for f18 (tagoh_, 06:10:57)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/2 (tagoh_, 06:10:58)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Documentation_I18n_Beat
(tagoh_, 06:11:42)
* ACTION: anish_ to update doc beats for ibus-typing-booster (tagoh_,
06:15:06)
* ACTION: pravins to update doc beats for liberation-fonts (tagoh_,
06:16:36)
* #5: i18n test day (tagoh_, 06:21:07)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/5 (tagoh_, 06:21:08)
* Open Floor (tagoh_, 06:28:26)
Meeting ended at 06:33:12 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* anish_ to update doc beats for ibus-typing-booster
* pravins to update doc beats for liberation-fonts
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* anish_
* anish_ to update doc beats for ibus-typing-booster
* pravins
* pravins to update doc beats for liberation-fonts
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
---------------------------
* tagoh_ (47)
* anish_ (6)
* juhp (5)
* pravins (4)
* zodbot (3)
* dueno (1)
* paragan (1)
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FAmNA - meeting minutes (2012-09-19)
by Jon
#fedora-meeting Meeting
Meeting started by kk4ewt at 01:05:14 UTC (full logs).
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-09-19/famna.2012-09-...
Meeting summary
https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ (graphite6, 01:08:00)
https://fedorahosted.org/famna/query?status=accepted&status=assigned&stat...
(kk4ewt, 01:09:52)
Fedora 18 alpha has gone GOLD (kk4ewt, 01:12:05)
https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/40 (kk4ewt, 01:13:38)
https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/26 (kk4ewt, 01:17:31)
https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/42 (kk4ewt, 01:22:44)
ACTION: graphite6 and kk4ewt to contact other shippers to get media
sent for OLF (kk4ewt, 01:25:53)
https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/43 (kk4ewt, 01:26:59)
https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/41 (kk4ewt, 01:33:00)
https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/41 (kk4ewt, 01:33:04)
open floor (kk4ewt, 01:35:18)
Meeting ended at 01:52:54 UTC (full logs).
Action items
graphite6 and kk4ewt to contact other shippers to get media sent for OLF
Action items, by person
graphite6
graphite6 and kk4ewt to contact other shippers to get media sent for OLF
kk4ewt
graphite6 and kk4ewt to contact other shippers to get media sent for OLF
People present (lines said)
kk4ewt (66)
rbergeron (37)
dan408- (36)
graphite6 (26)
award3535 (18)
nb (9)
jds2001 (8)
zodbot (5)
wrnash (4)
masta (3)
farmerrob (3)
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Docs meeting summary -- 17 September 2012
by Ben Cotton
Meeting summary
---------------
* Roll Call (bcotton, 14:00:45)
* Follow up on last week's action items (bcotton, 14:04:38)
* ACTION: Sparks to add relevant git commands to QA procedures
(bcotton, 14:06:10)
* Fedora 18 schedule (bcotton, 14:06:31)
* LINK:
http://jreznik.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-18/f-18-docs-tasks.html
(bcotton, 14:06:42)
* LINK:
http://jreznik.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-18/f-18-docs-tasks.html
(bcotton, 14:06:47)
* Guides scheduled to be branched 2 October (bcotton, 14:06:59)
* Alpha declared gold, will be released tomorrow (bcotton, 14:07:13)
* Release Notes (bcotton, 14:09:05)
* Alpha RN (one page) due 17 September (bcotton, 14:09:13)
* wiki beats due 26 September (bcotton, 14:09:22)
* ACTION: bcotton to write Alpha RN (bcotton, 14:10:51)
* LINK: https://gist.github.com/3734372 (randomuser, 14:14:34)
* HELP: randomuser would like feedback on
https://gist.github.com/3734372 before sending to devs (bcotton,
14:16:02)
* Outstanding BZ Tickets (bcotton, 14:19:22)
* LINK: http://tinyurl.com/lbrq84 (bcotton, 14:19:34)
* Open Floor Discussion (bcotton, 14:25:19)
Meeting ended at 14:27:36 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* Sparks to add relevant git commands to QA procedures
* bcotton to write Alpha RN
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* bcotton
* bcotton to write Alpha RN
* Sparks
* Sparks to add relevant git commands to QA procedures
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
---------------------------
* bcotton (49)
* shaiton_ (8)
* claneys (7)
* randomuser (5)
* jjmcd (5)
* Sparks (4)
* zodbot (4)
* pkovar (1)
* sgordon (1)
* Capesteve (1)
Minutes:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-09-17/fedora_docs.20...
Minutes (text):
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-09-17/fedora_docs.20...
Log:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-09-17/fedora_docs.20...
--
Ben Cotton
Fedora Docs Leader
11 years, 7 months
Fedora Kernel Meeting Minutes Sep 14, 2012
by Josh Boyer
==============================
#fedora-meeting: Fedora Kernel
==============================
Meeting started by jwb at 18:00:09 UTC. The full logs are available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-09-14/fedora-kernel....
.
Meeting summary
---------------
* roll call (jwb, 18:00:30)
* F18 (jwb, 18:01:45)
* F18 Alpha using 3.6-rc2 kernel. Will get -rc5/-rc6 pushed out soon
(jwb, 18:05:08)
* F18 GA will stick with the 3.6 release (jwb, 18:05:19)
* Kernel Summit/Linux Plumbers overview (jwb, 18:06:17)
* ACTION: jwb to clean up and send new modsigning patches to fedora
kernel list after testing (jwb, 18:09:36)
* kernel maintainers will start sending "patches we carry" emails to
the stable tree maintainers (jwb, 18:17:24)
* Open Floor (jwb, 18:18:38)
* we could still use active testing on older Fedora releases (jwb,
18:24:22)
Meeting ended at 18:44:12 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* jwb to clean up and send new modsigning patches to fedora kernel list
after testing
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* jwb
* jwb to clean up and send new modsigning patches to fedora kernel
list after testing
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
---------------------------
* jwb (56)
* brunowolff (21)
* davej (11)
* jforbes (7)
* zodbot (3)
* codemaniac (1)
* adamw (1)
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Fedora 18 Alpha is hereby declared GOLD
by Jaroslav Reznik
At the F18 Alpha Go/No-Go Meeting that just occurred, the Fedora 18
Alpha release was declared GOLD. F18 Alpha will be released Tuesday,
September 18, 2012.
Thanks to everyone who helped to make it possible, to ship Spherical
Cow out of the doors to the wild journey for Beta and GA!
Meeting details can be seen here:
Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2012-09-13/f18_alpha_go...
Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2012-09-13/f18_alpha_go...
Btw. documentation is requested for common bugs page, see Go/No-Go
log + latest Blocker Review Meeting log.
Jaroslav
Your very happy schedule wrangler
=============================================
#fedora-meeting-1: F18 Alpha Go/No-Go meeting
=============================================
Meeting started by jreznik at 19:00:49 UTC. The full logs are available
at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2012-09-13/f18_alpha_go...
.
Meeting summary
---------------
* roll call (jreznik, 19:01:38)
* jreznik nirik jlk rbergeron kparal tflink adamw present (jreznik,
19:05:54)
* Purpose of this meeting (jreznik, 19:06:44)
* Purpose of this meeting is to see whether or not F18 Alpha is ready
for shipment, according to the release criteria. (jreznik,
19:07:00)
* This is determined in a few ways: (jreznik, 19:07:07)
* No remaining blocker bugs ;-) (jreznik, 19:07:43)
* Test matrices for Alpha are fully completed (jreznik, 19:07:49)
* LINK: http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current (jreznik,
19:07:58)
* LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Alpha_Release_Criteria
(jreznik, 19:08:06)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Base_Test
(jreznik, 19:08:12)
* LINK:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test
(jreznik, 19:08:19)
* LINK:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test
(jreznik, 19:08:26)
* agenda (jreznik, 19:09:05)
* 3 Proposed Blockers (tflink, 19:12:34)
* 3 non-VERIFIED Accepted Blockers (tflink, 19:12:56)
* (855849) could not UEFI boot F18 Alpha (TC6 through RC3) DVD or
netinst written to optical disc or dd'ed to USB: /dev/root does not
exist (tflink, 19:13:49)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=855849 (tflink,
19:13:52)
* Proposed Blockers, NEW (tflink, 19:13:54)
* AGREED: it is agreed in principle that the relevant release
criterion should be weakened so it only requires any one of the
'normal' UEFI boot paths to work, not several (adamw, 19:36:07)
* AGREED: 855849 - RejectedBlocker - With the above modification to
the F18 alpha release requirements, this bug is not considered a
blocker as USB media created with livecd-iso-to-disk is still able
to boot on (u)EFI machines (tflink, 19:38:14)
* (848305) When kernel modsetting is enabled, laptop screen remians off
until Xorg starts (ironlake) (tflink, 19:38:46)
* ACTION: adamw to propose criterion modification on test list
(adamw, 19:38:47)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=848305 (tflink,
19:38:49)
* Proposed Blockers, ASSIGNED (tflink, 19:38:52)
* AGREED: 848305 is rejected as a blocker on the basis that it only
affects certain systems (so a conditional violation, so a judgment
call) and appears to have a relatively simple and documentable
workaround (adamw, 19:57:39)
* (856938) Native UEFI install from F18 Alpha RC3 DVD written to USB
with livecd-iso-to-disk fails to boot (tflink, 19:58:32)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=856938 (tflink,
19:58:35)
* Proposed Blockers, NEW (tflink, 19:58:38)
* AGREED: 856938 - RejectedBlocker - While this is a conditional
violation of the F18 alpha release criteria, it was decided that the
current success rates are enough for F18 alpha (tflink, 20:11:24)
* (856399) RC2 DVD is missing grub2-efi and shim packages (tflink,
20:13:06)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=856399 (tflink,
20:13:06)
* Accepted Blockers, MODIFIED (tflink, 20:13:06)
* This has been fixed in RC3 and will be moved to VERIFIED shortly
(tflink, 20:13:46)
* (856096) repoclosure failure on 18 Alpha RC2 DVDs (mongodb) (tflink,
20:13:56)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=856096 (tflink,
20:13:56)
* Accepted Blockers, ON_QA (tflink, 20:13:56)
* this bug has been fixed, needs to be moved to VERIFIED. after enough
karma, the update will be pushed to stable and this bug will be
closed (tflink, 20:15:57)
* (856836) /etc/fstab is not written correctly after live install (F18
Alpha RC2+) (tflink, 20:16:08)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=856836 (tflink,
20:16:11)
* Accepted Blockers, ON_QA (tflink, 20:16:13)
* this is reported to be verified with RC3, move to VERIFIED once that
is confirmed in bz (tflink, 20:17:28)
* this has just been verified with RC3 -> move to VERIFIED (tflink,
20:18:35)
* the test matrices results (jreznik, 20:20:21)
* Base is 100% (adamw, 20:20:27)
* Desktop has Alpha tests covered for GNOME and KDE (release blocking
desktops). fallback isn't really considered critical since F17
(adamw, 20:20:48)
* LINK: http://tflink.fedorapeople.org/updates/f18_traceback.img
(tflink, 20:26:35)
* AGREED: the 'local disk' requirement of criterion " The installer
must be able to report failures to Bugzilla and local disk, with
appropriate information included" is waived for F18 Alpha as the
failure reporting tool does not currently have code for local disk
reporting, and we do not think an Alpha release strictly requires
this function (adamw, 20:34:32)
* missing Install tests are install_to_SCSI which has been waived for
several releases, traceback_to_disk which was waived above, and
non-EFI liveusb-creator which is OK as we only need *one* working
USB method for alpha, and we have more than one already (adamw,
20:38:09)
* per above, Install matrix is functionally complete (adamw,
20:38:21)
* go/no-go decision (jreznik, 20:38:53)
* rel-eng votes Go (dgilmore) (adamw, 20:39:37)
* devel votes Go (jlk) (adamw, 20:39:44)
* QA votes Go (tflink, viking, adam) (adamw, 20:39:52)
* infra is go (dgilmore) (jreznik, 20:40:12)
* FPL votes go (rbergeron) (adamw, 20:40:26)
* program manager votes go (jreznik) (adamw, 20:40:39)
* ACTION: jreznik to announce go/no-go result (jreznik, 20:46:55)
Meeting ended at 20:47:38 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* adamw to propose criterion modification on test list
* jreznik to announce go/no-go result
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* adamw
* adamw to propose criterion modification on test list
* jreznik
* jreznik to announce go/no-go result
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
---------------------------
* adamw (200)
* jreznik (93)
* tflink (84)
* jlk (52)
* rbergeron (27)
* dgilmore (23)
* nirik (21)
* pjones (17)
* Viking-Ice (15)
* zodbot (8)
* kparal (8)
* rdieter (3)
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Summary/Minutes from today's Fedora Infrastructure meeting (2012-09-13)
by Kevin Fenzi
============================================
#fedora-meeting: Infrastructure (2012-09-13)
============================================
Meeting started by nirik at 18:00:01 UTC. The full logs are available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-09-13/infrastructure...
.
Meeting summary
---------------
* Welcome Starfighters! (nirik, 18:00:01)
* New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks (nirik, 18:02:36)
* Applications status / discussion (nirik, 18:09:23)
* Sysadmin status / discussion (nirik, 18:26:15)
* new machines: osuosl02, virthost14 and 2 new builders (nirik,
18:27:26)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure_private_cloud
(nirik, 18:30:55)
* F18 Alpha Release tickets/Freeze (nirik, 18:32:41)
* Private Cloud status update (nirik, 18:33:24)
* Security FAD update (nirik, 18:33:55)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_Infrastructure_Security_2012
(nirik, 18:34:10)
* WikiChanges page (nirik, 18:36:26)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/WikiChanges (nirik, 18:37:29)
* please record infra changes to the wiki in the
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/WikiChanges page, or ask someone to
do so when you make infrastructure changes to the wiki. (nirik,
18:45:35)
* Upcoming Tasks/Items (nirik, 18:46:59)
* 2012-08-14 to 2012-09-18 F18 Alpha Freeze (nirik, 18:47:13)
* 2012-09-10 to 2012-09-24 Skvidal is out (nirik, 18:47:13)
* 2012-09-18 F18 Alpha release. (nirik, 18:47:13)
* 2012-10-09 to 2012-10-23 F18 Beta Freeze (nirik, 18:47:13)
* 2012-10-23 F18 Beta release (nirik, 18:47:13)
* 2012-11-13 to 2012-11-27 F18 Final Freeze (nirik, 18:47:13)
* 2012-11-20 FY2014 budget due (nirik, 18:47:15)
* 2012-11-26 to 2012-11-29 Security FAD (nirik, 18:47:17)
* 2012-11-27 F18 release. (nirik, 18:47:19)
* 2012-11-30 end of 3nd quarter (nirik, 18:47:21)
* 2012-12-24 - 2013-01-01 Red Hat Shutdown for holidays. (nirik,
18:47:23)
* 2013-01-18 to 2013-01-20 FUDCON Lawrence (nirik, 18:47:26)
* Smolt (nirik, 18:49:09)
* ACTION: puiterwijk will take a look at how clients handle server
down and if we need a discard service (nirik, 18:52:46)
* Open Floor (nirik, 18:54:54)
Meeting ended at 18:59:55 UTC.
Action Items
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* puiterwijk will take a look at how clients handle server down and if
we need a discard service
Action Items, by person
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* puiterwijk
* puiterwijk will take a look at how clients handle server down and if
we need a discard service
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
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* nirik (135)
* pingou (22)
* abadger1999 (15)
* _love_hurts_ (15)
* Spack (12)
* puiterwijk (12)
* lmacken (10)
* tflink (5)
* WITRChris (5)
* dgilmore (5)
* zodbot (4)
* threebean (4)
* smooge (3)
* _badboy_ (1)
* relrod_ (1)
* relrod (1)
* ricky (0)
* mdomsch (0)
* skvidal (0)
* CodeBlock (0)
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18:00:01 <nirik> #startmeeting Infrastructure (2012-09-13)
18:00:01 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Sep 13 18:00:01 2012 UTC. The chair is nirik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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18:00:01 <nirik> #meetingname infrastructure
18:00:01 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'infrastructure'
18:00:01 <nirik> #topic Welcome Starfighters!
18:00:01 <nirik> #chair smooge skvidal CodeBlock ricky nirik abadger1999 lmacken dgilmore mdomsch threebean
18:00:01 <zodbot> Current chairs: CodeBlock abadger1999 dgilmore lmacken mdomsch nirik ricky skvidal smooge threebean
18:00:11 * relrod_ here
18:00:21 * pingou
18:00:29 * lmacken
18:00:32 * Spack here
18:00:34 * _badboy_ here
18:00:44 * tflink is somewhat here
18:01:24 <nirik> ok, will wait a minute more for folks to wander in.
18:02:27 <smooge> here
18:02:32 <nirik> ok, I guess we should go ahead and get started in then...
18:02:36 <nirik> #topic New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks
18:02:56 <nirik> Any new folks like to introduce themselves? or apprentices have any questions/comments?
18:02:58 * abadger1999 here
18:03:14 <WITRChris> I'm a new folk, I haven't had a chance to send off an e-mail to the list yet
18:03:32 <nirik> welcome WITRChris.
18:03:44 <nirik> Are you more interested in the sysadmin or application devel side of things?
18:03:53 <WITRChris> I'm more interested in tye sysadmin side of things
18:04:00 <lmacken> WITRChris: welcome! WITR, like RIT's radio station?
18:04:05 <WITRChris> indeed
18:04:11 <lmacken> nice :)
18:04:25 * lmacken wears his witr shirt every now and then
18:04:34 <WITRChris> undergrad RIT student, working as a sysadmin on co-op (paid internship) in boston
18:04:35 <nirik> cool. See me after the meeting and I can get you setup as an apprentice and point you to tickets and such.
18:04:42 <WITRChris> sure :)
18:04:57 <nirik> and do feel free to ask questions or chime in on any of our irc channels. ;)
18:05:15 <Spack> !
18:05:21 <nirik> Spack: go ahead...
18:05:22 <Spack> little question
18:05:40 <Spack> trying to get ip and route config of hosts defined in nagios
18:05:51 <Spack> i succeeded for 60 hosts
18:05:57 <Spack> but i miss 134
18:06:06 <nirik> FYI, for apprentice/new folks, I remembered that I had a presentation on fedora infra early this year. The slides might be good as an overview of what we do, etc. See: http://kevin.fedorapeople.org/infrastructure-intro-2012-02-09.odp
18:06:13 <Spack> is there a way to get those info?
18:06:31 <nirik> Spack: I can probibly get that for you... those are hosts you cannot login to?
18:06:48 <Spack> little questionyes
18:06:57 <nirik> note that there is overlap... ie:
18:07:21 <nirik> proxy01.phx2.fedoraproject.org is also proxy01.vpn.fedoraproject.org and part of fedoraproject.org in dns.
18:07:26 <Spack> true bug with screen comming back
18:07:36 <nirik> hum?
18:08:04 <nirik> Spack: didn't get that last bit...
18:08:18 <Spack> sorry a bug with screen
18:08:29 <nirik> ah, ok. ;)
18:08:34 <Spack> so indeed ithose are hosts i cannot connect to
18:08:47 <nirik> ok, I can try and gather info you need after the meeting...
18:08:56 <Spack> ok thanks
18:09:10 <nirik> any other general apprentice questions? will move on if not...
18:09:23 <nirik> #topic Applications status / discussion
18:09:33 <nirik> ok, any application news this week or upcoming next?
18:09:43 <nirik> abadger1999 / pingou / lmacken / relrod / threebean ?
18:09:47 <pingou> I have been working on fedocal, still need a little bit of work but it's coming along
18:10:13 <pingou> nirik: early october, do you think we could deploy a test instance for it ?
18:10:18 <nirik> pingou: so, can you talk a bit about what fedocal is/does again?
18:10:22 <dgilmore> i really would love someone to help with my composedb
18:10:34 <abadger1999> Not in the past week. I'll be spinning a new pkgdb release who's onl purpose is to consolidate the hotfixes we've accumulated in the coming week.
18:10:46 <tflink> dgilmore: composedb?
18:10:46 <abadger1999> for deployment after this freeze finally ends :-)
18:11:00 <abadger1999> (Thanks nirik for help with that :-)
18:11:04 <nirik> abadger1999: ok, cool. Let me know if I can help anymore...
18:11:27 <relrod> I tried upgrading staging FAS and ran into fancyflash issues. I'm mid-process for doing a new beta release without the commit that added fancyflash stuff, and will try the upgrade again when I get that done
18:11:51 <pingou> fedocal: the idea is to have a single place to handle calendar, be it #fedora-meeting(,-1,-2) or any other, this would also allow to send reminder automatically to the different email desired
18:13:17 <nirik> pingou: so, it's for meetings only or any other milestones? and it would have a web interface to add/edit/remove entires? and a ical feed?
18:13:45 <nirik> dgilmore: is there any specs for composedb? I wonder if we couldn't write up things and try and get people more exited by it.
18:13:46 <pingou> nirik: web interface, no ical at first (long term that would be nice)
18:14:02 <pingou> nirik: 'calendar' could be anything, even release schedule if we would like to
18:14:22 <pingou> or tests-days
18:14:33 <nirik> so everything appears on one? or it's seperate calendars per thing?
18:14:50 <pingou> one calendar at a time
18:15:08 <dgilmore> nirik: i should do that
18:15:39 <dgilmore> tflink: the idea is to have a single point where you can get the status of releng process and releases etc
18:16:43 <tflink> ok, I was planning to add the concept of "spins" to the blocker tracking app so that there is an easy way to figure out which blocker/nth fixes are in which spin (TC/RC/test)
18:16:50 <tflink> but it sounds like you were looking for a bit more than that
18:17:01 <tflink> s/was/am
18:17:09 <nirik> pingou: ok. I guess I feel uneasy about another application, but we have failed to find any existing thing we could use for this...
18:17:51 <pingou> nirik: agreed
18:18:14 <nirik> ok, any other apps news? or shall we move along to sysadmin side of things?
18:18:24 <pingou> nirik: I would be fine if we find a real calendar things in which we plugin a reminder system
18:18:54 <pingou> radical looked nice but it's not 100% caldav and thus not 100% supported everywhere
18:19:12 <nirik> yeah.
18:19:50 <pingou> and trying to make radical full caldav might be a little beyond my free-time possibilities :)
18:20:10 <nirik> yeah, understood.
18:20:24 <nirik> I guess it might be good to ping the list with what you have/are planning?
18:21:14 <nirik> and possibly cross post to the fedora-logistics list?
18:21:31 <pingou> nirik: I was thinking to do that with something to show/try
18:21:38 <nirik> ok
18:21:47 <abadger1999> nirik: something else that came up this week is what we want the future of web app accessibility to look like.
18:21:50 <pingou> or should I do that earlier ?
18:22:01 <nirik> pingou: up to you I guess... :)
18:22:27 <pingou> ok :)
18:22:32 <nirik> abadger1999: oh? yeah, our accessability is probibly poor. ;( we have audio on some captchas, but dunno anything else we have really.
18:23:19 <abadger1999> nirik: <nod> We have been trying to make things generally accessible to blind users (but we do have some failings)
18:23:38 <abadger1999> nirik: But maybe it's time to revisit either how we do that or whether we need to do that.
18:23:59 <abadger1999> nirik: I'll likely send an email out to the list this week about it.
18:24:26 <nirik> sounds good. Perhaps thats something we could setup some kind of tracker for and/or usability checking...
18:24:34 <abadger1999> But if anyone knows about people who specialize in accessibility issues... I have some unanswered questions that would be nice to know about :-)
18:25:22 <nirik> perhaps we could ask gnome or kde folks... they might have some contacts.
18:25:35 <abadger1999> <nod> I asked walters but he wasn't sure.
18:26:04 * abadger1999 will try to reach some other people.
18:26:04 <nirik> ok, anything else application wise?
18:26:12 <nirik> thanks
18:26:15 <nirik> #topic Sysadmin status / discussion
18:26:32 <nirik> On the sysadmin side... lets see.
18:26:48 <nirik> We have some new machines coming online soon. A osuosl02 machine.
18:26:54 <nirik> a new virthost machine in phx2
18:27:00 <nirik> and 2 new builder boxes.
18:27:26 <nirik> #info new machines: osuosl02, virthost14 and 2 new builders
18:27:51 <nirik> We continue to have a httpd issue on app servers. I should file a ticket to coordinate trying to fix it.
18:27:54 <nirik> It's getting anoying.
18:28:28 <nirik> We have our euca cloud instance up and working. Need to get some more folks accounts to test on it with.
18:28:43 <nirik> Our openstack cloud instance is proving troublesome. I might reinstall it again later today.
18:29:04 <_love_hurts_> !
18:29:12 <nirik> feel free to chime in anytime.
18:29:24 <_love_hurts_> which side I'm working on?
18:29:34 <_love_hurts_> sysadmin or devel :)
18:29:43 <_love_hurts_> nowhere I guess :D
18:29:44 <nirik> _love_hurts_: sysadmin. I guess.
18:29:50 <_love_hurts_> ok, thx
18:29:57 <nirik> well, or both. Docs apply to both I suppose. ;)
18:30:00 <pingou> nirik: you said that fedocal might be a nice test for the cloud ? :)
18:30:02 <_love_hurts_> do you have something for me in cloud side?
18:30:23 <nirik> pingou: yeah, I can make you an instance if you like... do you have something thats deployable ?
18:30:24 <_love_hurts_> I would love to do R&D on that
18:30:40 <pingou> nirik: I think I'll have early next week
18:30:46 <nirik> _love_hurts_: well, we are still just poking around on it, it's not production yet really. See:
18:30:55 <nirik> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure_private_cloud
18:31:19 <nirik> I'd like to nail down some more cases and setup some more groups, then open it up to more people to test on.
18:31:21 <_love_hurts_> ok, let me know when you have something for me...
18:31:58 <nirik> can do.
18:32:09 <nirik> pingou: might work for a short term test instance, see me when you are ready.
18:32:29 <pingou> nirik: I want something short anyway, I'll be gone for few days after
18:32:41 <nirik> #topic F18 Alpha Release tickets/Freeze
18:32:55 <nirik> we are still in freeze. Perhaps next week or the week after we can actually release a Alpha. ;)
18:33:12 <nirik> I'll follow up on release tickets as we get closer to an actual release. ;)
18:33:24 <nirik> #topic Private Cloud status update
18:33:31 <nirik> I guess we already touched on this above
18:33:47 <nirik> probibly in the next few weeks we will open things up to more testing.
18:33:55 <nirik> #topic Security FAD update
18:34:10 <nirik> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_Infrastructure_Security_2012
18:34:22 <nirik> so, our dates are in freeze, but I guess I won't care. ;)
18:34:40 <nirik> I'm going to try and gather up our budget needs and see where we are soon.
18:34:50 <nirik> So, if you are planning on attending, please update your info there.
18:35:13 <nirik> we will be working on irc too, so remote folks are always welcome.
18:35:39 <nirik> any question or comments on the fad?
18:36:26 <nirik> #topic WikiChanges page
18:36:50 <_love_hurts_> !
18:36:53 <nirik> so, puiterwijk has setup a wiki page with changes to the wiki.
18:36:54 * puiterwijk is here. sorry for being too late
18:37:20 <pingou> puiterwijk: s/too late/just on time/
18:37:21 <nirik> _love_hurts_: just chime in. We don't really use the meeting protocol. ;)
18:37:29 <nirik> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/WikiChanges
18:37:29 <_love_hurts_> am I going to get some page for uploading and getting feedback on my work?
18:38:16 <nirik> _love_hurts_: I'd suggest making a page under your username to draft changes. When it's done/looks good, we can move it in place of the existing page...
18:38:56 <nirik> so, this WikiChanges page is to list changes we make the wiki. So folks can see whats been added/fixed.
18:38:57 <_love_hurts_> yes, but I need more info on that...
18:39:20 <_love_hurts_> how and where I will create page?
18:40:35 <nirik> _love_hurts_: just go to: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:YourFASUSERNAME/Architecture
18:40:44 <_love_hurts_> ok...thanks!
18:40:54 <nirik> it will ask you if you want to create it, you do, import the info from the existing page (that you want to reuse)
18:41:30 <nirik> :)
18:41:34 <_love_hurts_> ok, I will do that :)
18:41:45 <puiterwijk> can I make a request for the WikiChanges page? :)
18:41:59 <nirik> puiterwijk: anything else on this? we just want anyone fixing things on the wiki to use this page to show changes?
18:42:04 <nirik> uh... sure!
18:42:28 <puiterwijk> I would like to ask anyone doing anything to the the wiki (plugins, configurations, bugfixes, ...), if they could update that page, or ask me to do so?
18:43:08 <nirik> yep. we will need to remember to keep it updated as we go.
18:43:36 <nirik> puiterwijk: might update the wiki sop in infra docs too with info about it?
18:43:39 <puiterwijk> maybe add a file UPDATEWIKICHANGES in puppet/modules/mediawiki? just to help us remember?
18:44:11 <nirik> sure, not sure that will help completely, but a note there would be probibly good.
18:44:17 <puiterwijk> but I'll update the docs to add it, but I just don't think everyone will check the docs everytime they change something ;)
18:44:47 <nirik> yeah, there's no foolproof way, we can just do the best we can
18:45:09 <puiterwijk> yeah. that's why you can also just ask me if you're busy with a quick bugfix ;)
18:45:35 <nirik> #info please record infra changes to the wiki in the https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/WikiChanges page, or ask someone to do so when you make infrastructure changes to the wiki.
18:45:41 * nirik nods.
18:45:53 <puiterwijk> (I might also ask others to do so if I'm busy ;))
18:45:58 <nirik> ok, anything more on wikichanges?
18:46:12 <puiterwijk> not from me. maybe others want to know anything about it?
18:46:54 <nirik> thanks puiterwijk. We should also advertise the page. I'll try and do some of that...
18:46:59 <nirik> #topic Upcoming Tasks/Items
18:47:10 <nirik> get ready for info dump... :)
18:47:13 <nirik> #info 2012-08-14 to 2012-09-18 F18 Alpha Freeze
18:47:13 <nirik> #info 2012-09-10 to 2012-09-24 Skvidal is out
18:47:13 <nirik> #info 2012-09-18 F18 Alpha release.
18:47:13 <nirik> #info 2012-10-09 to 2012-10-23 F18 Beta Freeze
18:47:13 <nirik> #info 2012-10-23 F18 Beta release
18:47:13 <nirik> #info 2012-11-13 to 2012-11-27 F18 Final Freeze
18:47:15 <nirik> #info 2012-11-20 FY2014 budget due
18:47:17 <nirik> #info 2012-11-26 to 2012-11-29 Security FAD
18:47:19 <nirik> #info 2012-11-27 F18 release.
18:47:21 <nirik> #info 2012-11-30 end of 3nd quarter
18:47:23 <nirik> #info 2012-12-24 - 2013-01-01 Red Hat Shutdown for holidays.
18:47:26 <nirik> #info 2013-01-18 to 2013-01-20 FUDCON Lawrence
18:47:29 <nirik> so, there is our upcoming stuff now. Anything to add/change?
18:47:32 * pingou will be afk from the 19th to the 30th
18:47:35 <nirik> of course if we slip again, the releases and freezes slip
18:47:37 <pingou> of this month
18:47:44 <nirik> pingou: cool. Going somewhere fun I hope.
18:47:51 <pingou> nirik: grappe harvest :)
18:48:23 <nirik> cool.
18:49:01 <nirik> ok, anything else upcoming?
18:49:09 <nirik> #topic Smolt
18:49:15 <smooge> KILL IT
18:49:22 <nirik> I started a wiki page: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Smolt_retirement
18:49:33 <nirik> this lists the things we need to get done to retire it, etc.
18:49:55 <nirik> We should look and see if we can get it done for f18...
18:50:02 <lmacken> how will old installs react when the smolt server ceases to exist? is the smoltClient smart enough to gracefully fail or will it spin?
18:50:16 <nirik> lmacken: we need to determine that. ;)
18:50:37 <nirik> we may need to keep up a discard service that just takes connections and /dev/nulls the input.
18:51:05 <nirik> if someone has time to investigate the things there/file bugs, etc... that would be great.
18:51:06 * lmacken nods
18:51:14 <puiterwijk> nirik: I can look into this all?
18:51:27 <nirik> puiterwijk: sure. :)
18:51:31 <puiterwijk> both how the client handles no server availability, and in case needed a /dev/null server?
18:52:08 <nirik> that would be great if you want to look into it.
18:52:27 <puiterwijk> sure
18:52:46 <nirik> #action puiterwijk will take a look at how clients handle server down and if we need a discard service
18:53:24 <abadger1999> lmacken: I don't think it will be graceful (think it'll wait for a timeout of some sort)
18:53:29 <nirik> we will need to file some bugs (firstboot, spins kickstarts) and see if we need an update for the existing clients in releases.
18:53:54 <nirik> of course there will always be many more unupdated clients out there.
18:54:15 <abadger1999> smooge's idea was to just take data, mock up a success reply, and discard the data.... seemed reasonable to me.
18:54:41 <puiterwijk> abadger1999: yeah, that's what I meant with a discard service ;)
18:54:45 <nirik> yeah, we may need to go that route indeed.
18:54:54 <nirik> #topic Open Floor
18:55:02 <nirik> well, we have about 5min left. Anything for open floor?
18:55:21 <smooge> not me
18:55:34 <threebean> Well, not much time. Anyone have any comments on lmacken's email about composedb? http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/infrastructure/2012-September/01...
18:55:58 * lmacken votes to just adding the branched/rawhide fedmsg hooks asap
18:56:06 <lmacken> (since the patch is already done)
18:56:13 <threebean> dgilmore: Its related to what we were talking about yesterday.
18:57:14 * abadger1999 thinks its really up to dgilmore and the other releng people
18:57:30 <nirik> yeah, I'd be ok with that, but it's up to dgilmore... and probibly after freeze.
18:57:41 <abadger1999> but composedb may be a long way off so hooking it up to the scripts does make sense.
18:57:50 <dgilmore> i had a quick look at the patch. as a stop gap it would work
18:58:04 <dgilmore> there are many other areas that we could and should hook up notifications
18:58:19 * nirik nods. message bus the world! :)
18:58:26 <threebean> yeah, if we can defer choosing those to once composedb is done... I'm fine with that.
18:58:41 * lmacken notes https://github.com/ralphbean/fedmsg/blob/develop/doc/status.rst -- if you can think of more, let us know
18:59:05 <nirik> cool, so wait for freeze to be over and push that change sound ok to everyone?
18:59:18 * threebean nods
18:59:34 <nirik> cool. well, we are out of time...
18:59:39 <lmacken> sounds good
18:59:45 <nirik> so continue over in #fedora-admin and #fedora-apps and #fedora-noc. ;)
18:59:45 <_love_hurts_> :)
18:59:53 <nirik> Thanks for coming everyone
18:59:55 <nirik> #endmeeting
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i18n meeting summary (2012-09-13)
by Akira TAGOH
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#fedora-meeting: i18n
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Meeting started by tagoh_ at 06:01:14 UTC. The full logs are available
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Meeting summary
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* agenda and roll call (tagoh_, 06:01:15)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2012-09-13
(tagoh_, 06:01:16)
* Upcoming schedule (tagoh_, 06:05:18)
* Outstanding tasks (tagoh_, 06:07:37)
* #1 FEAT: GNOME IBus Integration (fujiwara) (tagoh_,
06:07:37)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/1 (tagoh_, 06:07:37)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/GNOMEIBusIntegration
(juhp, 06:09:35)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=682314
(fujiwarat, 06:42:34)
* New topics (tagoh_, 06:50:19)
* #2 docs i18n beat for f18 (tagoh) (tagoh_, 06:50:20)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/2 (tagoh_, 06:50:20)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Documentation_I18n_Beat
(tagoh_, 06:51:04)
* ACTION: fujiwarat to write relnotes how to add shortcut keys and
engines (tagoh_, 06:57:22)
* ACTION: tagoh to write relnotes about new features in
fonts-tweak-tool and limitation of im-chooser on gnome3. (tagoh_,
06:57:55)
* ACTION: pravins to write relnotes about Kashmiri Arabic support
(tagoh_, 06:58:58)
* #4 Testing harfbuzz-ng with default fonts in Fedora (pravins)
(tagoh_, 07:01:55)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/4 (tagoh_, 07:01:55)
* #5 i18n test day (tagoh) (tagoh_, 07:12:49)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/5 (tagoh_, 07:12:49)
* ACTION: tagoh to check test cases (tagoh_, 07:14:45)
* Open Floor (tagoh_, 07:14:51)
Meeting ended at 07:23:07 UTC.
Action Items
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* fujiwarat to write relnotes how to add shortcut keys and engines
* tagoh to write relnotes about new features in fonts-tweak-tool and
limitation of im-chooser on gnome3.
* pravins to write relnotes about Kashmiri Arabic support
* tagoh to check test cases
Action Items, by person
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* fujiwarat
* fujiwarat to write relnotes how to add shortcut keys and engines
* pravins
* pravins to write relnotes about Kashmiri Arabic support
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* tagoh to write relnotes about new features in fonts-tweak-tool and
limitation of im-chooser on gnome3.
* tagoh to check test cases
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* fujiwarat (37)
* paragan_ (16)
* anish_ (13)
* pravins (9)
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