F18 Alpha Blocker Bug Review #7 Minutes
by Tim Flink
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#fedora-qa: f18-alpha-blocker-review-7
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Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-qa/2012-09-12/f18-alpha-blocker-r...
Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-qa/2012-09-12/f18-alpha-blocker-r...
Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-qa/2012-09-12/f18-alpha-blocker-r...
Meeting summary
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* roll call (tflink, 16:07:17)
* Roll Call (tflink, 16:08:23)
* Roll Call (tflink, 16:14:03)
* introduction (tflink, 16:16:03)
* Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and
nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor
the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have
bugs. (tflink, 16:16:11)
* We'll be following the process outlined at: (tflink, 16:16:18)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting
(tflink, 16:16:18)
* The bugs up for review today can be found at: (tflink, 16:16:37)
* LINK: http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current (tflink,
16:16:37)
* The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at: (tflink,
16:16:46)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Alpha_Release_Criteria
(tflink, 16:16:47)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Beta_Release_Criteria
(tflink, 16:16:47)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Final_Release_Criteria
(tflink, 16:16:47)
* 12 Proposed Blockers (tflink, 16:19:57)
* 11 Accepted Blockers (tflink, 16:19:57)
* 9 Proposed NTH (tflink, 16:19:57)
* 8 Accepted NTH (tflink, 16:19:57)
* (855289) Dri files are missing in lorax ( /usr/lib64/dri/foo-dri.so:
cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory ) (tflink,
16:20:19)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=855289 (tflink,
16:20:22)
* Proposed Blocker, ON_QA (tflink, 16:20:25)
* AGREED: 855289 - RejectedBlocker - Since there is no clear fix and
there are few reports, rejecting as blocker for F18 alpha. If this
turns out to be a bigger problem, please re-propose as a blocker.
(tflink, 16:24:43)
* (854471) anaconda stop at the "Error checking storage configuration"
(tflink, 16:24:50)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=854471 (tflink,
16:24:51)
* Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 16:24:51)
* AGREED: 854471 - RejectedBlocker - Since this is more of a UI
confusion issue, it was deemed not to be a blocker for F18 alpha.
(tflink, 16:28:27)
* (852792) [Configure] button in network spoke doesn't work (nm-c-e
fails to run) (tflink, 16:28:29)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=852792 (tflink,
16:28:33)
* Proposed Blocker, ASSIGNED (tflink, 16:28:35)
* AGREED: 852792 - RejectedBlocker (alpha), AcceptedNTH - While this
does prevent netinstall for network setups requiring configuration,
it doesn't directly violate any of the F18 alpha release criteria
and installing from DVD is an acceptable workaround for those setups
(tflink, 16:51:49)
* (855976) In F18 Alpha, 'automatic' partitioning simply wipes your
entire disk without warning you first (tflink, 16:51:58)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=855976 (tflink,
16:52:01)
* Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 16:52:03)
* AGREED: 855976 - RejectedBlocker (alpha), AcceptedNTH - While this
has the potential to be a serious issue, it isn't a direct violation
of any F18 alpha release requirements. After much voting and
discussion in the bug and in IRC, it was decided (+5 blocker, -8
rejected) not to accept this bug as a blocker for F18 alpha. Please
re-propose as a blocker for beta. (tflink, 17:38:00)
* (855644) F18 KDE Live (alpha TC5) Anaconda custom partition setup: no
access to existing LVM/LUKS volumes (tflink, 17:39:23)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=855644 (tflink,
17:39:26)
* Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 17:39:29)
* AGREED: 855644 - RejectedBlocker - This doesn't violate any of the
release criteria for F18 alpha, therefore it is rejected as a
blocker for F18 alpha (tflink, 17:43:52)
* (855646) F18 KDE Live (alpha TC5) Anaconda custom partition setup:
missing volume/device identification (tflink, 17:44:06)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=855646 (tflink,
17:44:09)
* Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 17:44:12)
* AGREED: 855646 - RejectedBlocker - While this does come close to
hitting the F18 alpha release criteria as written, it doesn't apply
well to the new anaconda UI and more closely hits custom
partitioning which is not an alpha blocking issue (tflink,
17:48:14)
* (856096) repoclosure failure on 18 Alpha RC2 DVDs (mongodb) (tflink,
17:48:23)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=856096 (tflink,
17:48:23)
* Proposed Blocker, ON_QA (tflink, 17:48:23)
* AGREED: 856096 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 alpha
release criterion: "There must be no file conflicts (cases where the
files in some packages conflict but the packages have explicit
Conflicts: tags are acceptable) or unresolved package dependencies
during a media-based (DVD) install" (tflink, 17:49:44)
* (852841) Mouse jumps to edges / corners when using an absolute input
device (ie virtual machine usb tablet) (tflink, 17:49:55)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=852841 (tflink,
17:49:58)
* Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 17:50:01)
* AGREED: 852841 - RejectedBlocker AcceptedNTH - While annoying, this
does not clearly violate any of the F18 alpha release criteria and
is therefore rejected as a blocker, accepted as NTH (tflink,
17:54:14)
* (856194) firstboot has to insist the first user is admin when root
account is locked (tflink, 17:54:30)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=856194 (tflink,
17:54:33)
* Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 17:54:36)
* AGREED: 856194 - RejectedBlocker (alpha), AcceptedNTH - this is a
conditional breakage of "The installed system must be able to
download and install updates with yum and the default graphical
package manager in all release-blocking desktops" in the case the
user accepts the defaults during install, but we agreed Alpha users
should be capable of recovering or reading instructions to create a
root password or an admin user (adamw, 18:02:30)
* (856225) PackageKit can't import Fedora GPG key (tflink, 18:02:41)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=856225 (tflink,
18:02:42)
* Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 18:02:42)
* AGREED: 856225 - RejectedBlocker AcceptedNTH - While this is a
conditional violation of the following F18 alpha release criteria
for the first update attempt: "The installed system must be able to
download and install updates with yum and the default graphical
package manager in all release-blocking desktops", it was decided
that using yum from the CLI for the first update is an acceptable
workaround (tflink, 18:16:41)
* (856256) Crash when unlocking screensaver (tflink, 18:16:52)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=856256 (tflink,
18:16:52)
* Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 18:16:52)
* AGREED: 856256 - RejectedBlocker, AcceptedNTH - This does not
clearly violate any of the F18 alpha release requirements and can be
worked around by disabling the screen saver. However, a tested fix
would be accepted. (tflink, 18:22:31)
* (856399) RC2 DVD is missing grub2-efi and shim packages (tflink,
18:22:35)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=856399 (tflink,
18:22:38)
* Proposed Blocker, MODIFIED (tflink, 18:22:40)
* AGREED: 856399 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 alpha
release criterion for (u)EFI systems: "In most cases, a system
installed according to any of the above criteria must boot to the
'firstboot' utility on the first boot after installation, without
unintended user intervention, unless the user explicitly chooses to
boot in non-graphical mode. The firstboot utility must be able to
create a working user account" (tflink, 18:28:17)
* (855510) Alpha RC2: Cannot get past "Booting in ...... in 0 seconds"
screen on iMac 2011 (booting from USB) (tflink, 18:30:18)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=855510 (tflink,
18:30:21)
* Proposed NTH, NEW (tflink, 18:30:23)
* AGREED: 855510 - We don't have enough information to decide on NTH
status for this - needs re-testing with a USB media creation method
which we know works for EFI and hopfully other tests using apple
hardware (tflink, 18:35:51)
* (855991) jack needs rebuild for removal of libfreebob (tflink,
18:35:55)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=855991 (tflink,
18:35:56)
* Proposed NTH, ON_QA (tflink, 18:35:56)
* AGREED: 855991 - AcceptedNTH - Violates the following F18 alpha
release criterion for non-primary DEs (LXDE, SoaS), making it an NTH
bug - "There must be no file conflicts (cases where the files in
some packages conflict but the packages have explicit Conflicts:
tags are acceptable) or unresolved package dependencies during a
media-based (DVD) install" (tflink, 18:38:21)
* (848305) When kernel modsetting is enabled, laptop screen remians off
until Xorg starts (ironlake) (tflink, 18:38:26)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=848305 (tflink,
18:38:29)
* Proposed NTH, ON_QA (tflink, 18:38:32)
* AGREED: 848305 - AcceptedNTH - While the most obvious symptom of
this bug is cosmetic, it is suspected that there could be other,
major problems lurking behind it. A tested fix would be accepted for
F18 alpha (tflink, 18:48:05)
* (856090) ntpd not installed, causes firstboot to hang when user
selects "Sync date and time over network" (tflink, 18:48:09)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=856090 (tflink,
18:48:13)
* Proposed NTH, NEW (tflink, 18:48:15)
* AGREED: 856090 - AcceptedNTH - While not a blocker, firstboot
hanging is a problem and a tested fix would be accepted for F18
alpha (tflink, 18:50:01)
* (855784) packagekit waits for authentication forever is user is not in
wheel group (tflink, 18:50:11)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=855784 (tflink,
18:50:14)
* Proposed NTH, NEW (tflink, 18:50:17)
* AGREED: 855784 - RejectedNTH - While PK shouldn't hang when run by a
non-admin user, admin users are able to apply updates without issue.
This was not deemed severe enough to accept as NTH for F18 alpha
(tflink, 18:58:47)
* (850783) Font used in F18 grub2 configuration is too large for low
resolution displays, makes it effectively impossible to edit entries
in VMs (tflink, 18:58:57)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=850783 (tflink,
18:59:00)
* Proposed NTH, NEW (tflink, 18:59:03)
* AGREED: 850783 - AcceptedNTH - This bug prevents changing the boot
options post-install and can interfere with debugging. (tflink,
19:00:56)
* (856372) Package selection spoke is not respecting 'optionlist' from
comps in F18 Alpha RC2 (tflink, 19:01:06)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=856372 (tflink,
19:01:09)
* Proposed NTH, MODIFIED (tflink, 19:01:11)
* AGREED: 856372 - AcceptedNTH - This causes problems when selecting
optional elements to package groups and can't be fixed with an
update. A tested yum build with ONLY the fix for this bug would be
accepted for F18 alpha (tflink, 19:07:45)
* (856086) Anaconda on LiveCD should use window decorations (tflink,
19:08:27)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=856086 (tflink,
19:08:27)
* Proposed NTH, NEW (tflink, 19:08:27)
* AGREED: 856086 - RejectedNTH - This is mostly a cosmetic issue and
not severe enough to justify taking a fix past freeze for alpha
(tflink, 19:12:47)
* (840160) specifying bootloader --password results in system that won'
t boot without the password (tflink, 19:13:00)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=840160 (tflink,
19:13:03)
* Proposed NTH, NEW (tflink, 19:13:06)
* AGREED: 840160 - RejectedNTH - This doesn't even partially violate
any of the F18 alpha release criteria, can be worked around by
removing the --password option on the bootloader command and would
require changes to grub if it was fixed. Deemed too risky for the
benefit at this point in the release cycle and rejected as NTH for
F18 alpha (tflink, 19:21:34)
* (852403) PolicyKit authentication in Fedora 18 Alpha TC3 results in
selinux denial (tflink, 19:24:59)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=852403 (tflink,
19:25:02)
* Accepted Blocker, MODIFIED (tflink, 19:25:05)
* selinux-policy-3.11.1-18 is now available and should fix this bug.
It needs to be pulled into the next spin and tested (tflink,
19:27:12)
* Open Floor (tflink, 19:29:35)
* blocker tracking app update work is going on - feedback on changes
would be appreciated (tflink, 19:31:06)
* LINK:
http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2012-September/109995.html
(tflink, 19:31:12)
* if F18 alpha slips again, the next blocker review meeting will be
2012-09-19 @ 16:00 UTC (tflink, 19:32:25)
Meeting ended at 19:38:57 UTC.
Action Items
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* (none)
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11 years, 7 months
Summary/Minutes from todays FESCo Meeting (2012-09-12)
by Kevin Fenzi
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#fedora-meeting: FESCO (2012-09-12)
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Meeting started by nirik at 17:00:00 UTC. The full logs are available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-09-12/fesco.2012-09-...
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Meeting summary
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* init process (nirik, 17:00:01)
* 932 F18 Features - progress at Feature Freeze (nirik, 17:03:07)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/932 (nirik, 17:03:07)
* Open Floor (nirik, 17:09:29)
* Infrastructure is planning on retiring smolt. See
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Smolt_retirement for more details.
(nirik, 17:11:19)
* t8m will chair next week. (nirik, 17:12:50)
Meeting ended at 17:13:25 UTC.
Action Items
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Action Items, by person
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* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
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* nirik (38)
* zodbot (5)
* pjones (5)
* limburgher (5)
* mmaslano (3)
* mitr (3)
* t8m (3)
* Discordian (2)
* mjg59 (0)
* notting (0)
* jwb (0)
--
17:00:00 <nirik> #startmeeting FESCO (2012-09-12)
17:00:01 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Sep 12 17:00:00 2012 UTC. The chair is nirik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
17:00:01 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic.
17:00:01 <nirik> #meetingname fesco
17:00:01 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fesco'
17:00:01 <nirik> #chair notting nirik mjg59 mmaslano t8m pjones mitr limburgher jwb
17:00:01 <nirik> #topic init process
17:00:01 <zodbot> Current chairs: jwb limburgher mitr mjg59 mmaslano nirik notting pjones t8m
17:00:08 <nirik> who all is around for a quick fesco meeting?
17:00:14 * Discordian is
17:00:15 <mmaslano> hi
17:00:19 * limburgher is here
17:00:24 <pjones> I mean, I guess we could.
17:00:49 * nirik waits to see if we have at least 5 fesco folks.
17:01:11 <t8m> hello
17:01:27 <mitr> Hello
17:01:41 <nirik> notting was not going to make it today.
17:01:52 <nirik> pjones / jwb ?
17:02:02 <pjones> I already said something.
17:02:10 <nirik> oh so you did.
17:02:10 <pjones> mjg59 is at IDF this week, dunno if he's going to make it to this or not.
17:02:14 * nirik checks his glasses.
17:02:44 <nirik> ok, so we didn't have much at all this week... we have 2 tickets pending, but they are both kind of waiting.
17:02:59 <nirik> I thought it might be good to look at the features, even though the deadline is not hit yet, so...
17:03:07 <nirik> #topic 932 F18 Features - progress at Feature Freeze
17:03:07 <nirik> .fesco 932
17:03:07 <nirik> https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/932
17:03:09 <zodbot> nirik: #932 (F18 Features - progress at Feature Freeze) – FESCo - https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/932
17:03:33 <nirik> any features on the low complete list worrying folks? or shall we continue to wait until the hammer comes down at the deadline?
17:04:16 <mmaslano> I hope jreznik is speaking with Feature owners
17:04:26 <mitr> Assuming that no features have been _added_ to the low list... no additional reason to worry
17:04:55 * nirik waits for wiki to load.
17:05:01 <mitr> Seriously-looking anaconda bugs still keep popping up...
17:05:13 <t8m> mmaslano, I suppose jreznik is fully occupied with the alpha release
17:05:14 <pjones> bugs are allowed.
17:05:40 <nirik> we still need to get initial experence punted to 19...
17:05:49 <nirik> sugar updated to 50% now
17:06:19 <limburgher> I imagine.
17:07:07 <nirik> ok, yeah, I don't see any new ones off hand.
17:07:57 <mmaslano> so, any actions to take?
17:08:23 <nirik> If no one sees anything they want to discuss, we can continue to wait for 2012-09-26
17:08:57 * nirik waits for a second for folks to chime in before moving on
17:09:07 * limburgher doesn't chime in
17:09:20 <nirik> ok, fair enough...
17:09:29 <nirik> #topic Open Floor
17:09:33 <nirik> I had one item...
17:10:13 <nirik> as a FYI, We are planning on retiring smolt. We don't have a set timeline yet, but though I would mention it here for any further input: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Smolt_retirement
17:10:31 <pjones> okay.
17:10:44 <limburgher> Thought I'd heard rumblings to that effect.
17:10:59 <nirik> yeah, just wanted to note it...
17:11:11 <Discordian> This is where 'census' come in then?
17:11:19 <nirik> #info Infrastructure is planning on retiring smolt. See https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Smolt_retirement for more details.
17:11:32 <nirik> Discordian: yeah. Although it's only somewhat implemented at the moment.
17:11:42 <nirik> any other open floor items?
17:12:14 * nirik will close the meeting in a minute then.
17:12:18 <limburgher> not from me.
17:12:19 <nirik> oh...
17:12:21 <nirik> next chair?
17:12:31 <nirik> Anyone interested?
17:12:37 <t8m> I can do it
17:12:42 <nirik> cool. thanks.
17:12:50 <nirik> #info t8m will chair next week.
17:13:22 <nirik> Thanks for coming everyone. :)
17:13:25 <nirik> #endmeeting
11 years, 7 months
FAmNA Meeting (12 September 2012)
by inode0
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#fedora-meeting: FAmNA
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Meeting started by inode0 at 01:00:03 UTC. The full logs are available
at
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Meeting summary
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* Roll Call (inode0, 01:00:14)
* Announcements (inode0, 01:02:07)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/famna/report/9 (inode0, 01:06:14)
* Tickets (inode0, 01:06:21)
* organize the amount of media still in-house a distribute accordingly
(inode0, 01:07:32)
* #42 (organize the amount of media still in-house a dsitrute
according) – FAmNA general trac -
https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/42 (inode0, 01:07:59)
* SFD-DFW_2012 (inode0, 01:16:45)
* #40 (SFD-DFW_2012) – FAmNA general trac -
https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/40 (inode0, 01:16:53)
* PuppetConf, San Francisco, September 27-28 2012 (inode0, 01:24:20)
* #43 (PuppetConf, San Francisco, September 27-28 2012) – FAmNA
general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/43 (inode0,
01:24:37)
* Fedora Ambassador Day North America (FADNA) (inode0, 01:37:22)
* #36 (Fedora Ambassador Day North America (FADNA)) – FAmNA general
trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/36 (inode0, 01:37:30)
* Open Floor (inode0, 01:51:39)
Meeting ended at 02:00:26 UTC.
Action Items
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* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
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* inode0 (91)
* rbergeron (83)
* dan408- (36)
* kk4ewt (21)
* masta (20)
* jds2001 (20)
* nb (15)
* zodbot (11)
* ianweller (9)
* award3535 (7)
* SGS (1)
* Sonar_Gal (1)
* jaysonr (0)
John
11 years, 7 months
FAmSco meeting 2012-09-10 minutes
by Christoph Wickert
Minutes:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2012-09-10/famsco.2012-...
Minutes (text):
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2012-09-10/famsco.2012-...
Log:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2012-09-10/famsco.2012-...
Meet you again next week
Monday September 17th
at 17:00 UTC
in #fedora-meeting-2!
Regards,
Christoph
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#fedora-meeting-2: FAmSCo 2012-09-10
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Meeting started by cwickert at 17:02:06 UTC. The full logs are available
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Meeting summary
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* Roll call (cwickert, 17:02:20)
* herlo sent regrets and cannot join us today (cwickert, 17:03:54)
* Budget request for FAD Milan (cwickert, 17:10:28)
* Fedora Booth at Free Software Conference (Open Source Software Lab of
Szeged) (cwickert, 17:16:15)
* Fedora Booth at Free Software Conference (Open Source Software Lab of
Szeged (cwickert, 17:16:19)
* Travel for Indonesia Linux Conference 2012 (cwickert, 17:17:22)
* AGREED: #311 is approved (cwickert, 17:20:43)
* Budget review guidelines (cwickert, 17:21:33)
* ACTION: sesivany to politely remind rbergeron of the budget workflow
draft (cwickert, 17:30:53)
Meeting ended at 17:31:41 UTC.
Action Items
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* sesivany to politely remind rbergeron of the budget workflow draft
Action Items, by person
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* rbergeron
* sesivany to politely remind rbergeron of the budget workflow draft
* sesivany
* sesivany to politely remind rbergeron of the budget workflow draft
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
---------------------------
* cwickert (71)
* sesivany (24)
* zodbot (15)
* nb (7)
* danielbruno (5)
* aeperezt (2)
* rbergeron (0)
11 years, 7 months
FUDCon EMEA Paris Funding approval meeting minutes
by Kévin Raymond
Hi there,
Please see bellow the meeting minutes.
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2012-09-06/fudcon_emea_...
See ya next we with a regular FUDCon planning meeting.
#fedora-meeting-1: FUDCon EMEA 2012
Meeting started by shaiton_ at 20:02:43 UTC (full logs).
Meeting summary
this is a Fuding Approval Meeting. Next Thursday would be the usual
meeting (shaiton_, 20:03:34)
https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/query?milestone=Paris+2012%3A+Tr...
(shaiton_, 20:05:01)
Funding Requests (shaiton_, 20:07:08)
The meeting is planned for 1h30 max (shaiton_, 20:07:21)
5 requests to look at (shaiton_, 20:07:35)
Ticket #349 - robyduck - https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/ticket/349
(shaiton_, 20:10:50)
we approved for $70 but the ticket was more expensive (my bad, failed to
refresh the page) (shaiton_, 20:11:25)
AGREED: Funding transportation up to $150, #ticket 349 (shaiton_,
20:13:54)
Ticket #351 - comzeradd -
https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/ticket/351 (shaiton_, 20:14:42)
Nikos is asking for $422 at least ($273 for the plane + the hotel)
(shaiton_, 20:15:29)
AGREED: Funding transportation + hotel (he needs to find a roomate) up
to $422, #ticket 351 (shaiton_, 20:21:25)
Ticket #353 - thunderbirdtr -
https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/ticket/353 (shaiton_, 20:22:53)
Onuralp is asking for 392€ (shaiton_, 20:23:51)
AGREED: Funding transportation (if you find a cheaper flight that would
be great. Hope that it won't be more expensive now) + hotel up to 392€, #ticket
353 (shaiton_, 20:29:11)
Ticket #342 - bckurera - https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/ticket/342
(shaiton_, 20:30:11)
https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/ticket/282 previous funding
this year was approved (pingou, 20:32:56)
REJECTED: bckurera request is too expensive. Please come back if you can
participate/have a cheaper flight, #ticket 342 (shaiton_, 20:36:05)
Ticket #354 - ctyler - https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/ticket/354
(shaiton_, 20:36:50)
Chris is asking for the hotel (shaiton_, 20:37:18)
AGREED: Funding the hotel (he needs to find a roomate), #ticket 354
(shaiton_, 20:39:55)
Open Floor (shaiton_, 20:40:08)
Meeting ended at 20:43:46 UTC (full logs).
Action items
(none)
People present (lines said)
shaiton_ (87)
number80 (20)
pingou (18)
eseyman (17)
Renault (8)
robyduck (7)
rbergeron (4)
zodbot (4)
ctyler (4)
kwizart (1)
--
Kévin Raymond
(Shaiton)
11 years, 7 months
Summary/Minutes from today's Fedora Infrastructure meeting (2012-09-06)
by Kevin Fenzi
============================================
#fedora-meeting: Infrastructure (2012-09-06)
============================================
Meeting started by nirik at 18:00:06 UTC. The full logs are available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-09-06/infrastructure...
.
Meeting summary
---------------
* whats up! (nirik, 18:00:07)
* New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks. (nirik, 18:04:36)
* Applications status / discussion (nirik, 18:14:44)
* Sysadmin status / discussion (nirik, 18:17:01)
* F18 Alpha Release tickets/Freeze (nirik, 18:24:36)
* Private Cloud status update (nirik, 18:25:07)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure_private_cloud
(nirik, 18:25:19)
* Upcoming Tasks/Items (nirik, 18:27:10)
* 2012-08-14 to 2012-09-11 F18 Alpha Freeze (nirik, 18:27:42)
* 2012-09-07 drop inactive fi-apprentices (nirik, 18:27:43)
* 2012-09-11 F18 Alpha release. (nirik, 18:27:43)
* 2012-09-10 to 2012-09-24 Skvidal is out (nirik, 18:27:43)
* 2012-10-02 to 2012-10-16 F18 Beta Freeze (nirik, 18:27:43)
* 2012-10-16 F18 Beta release (nirik, 18:27:43)
* 2012-10-30 to 2012-11-20 F18 Final Freeze (nirik, 18:27:45)
* 2012-11-20 F18 release. (nirik, 18:27:47)
* 2012-11-26 to 2012-11-29 Security FAD (nirik, 18:27:49)
* 2012-11-20 Next Fiscal Year Budget needs to be done (smooge,
18:28:04)
* LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Lawrence_2013 (nirik,
18:32:16)
* Open Floor (nirik, 18:44:44)
Meeting ended at 18:56:23 UTC.
Action Items
------------
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
---------------------------
* nirik (99)
* skvidal (39)
* _love_hurts_ (33)
* smooge (17)
* dgilmore (17)
* abadger1999 (15)
* kilted1 (9)
* puiterwijk (4)
* zodbot (4)
* CodeBlock_ (4)
* akshaysth_ (3)
* MadBus (2)
* Ramesh (1)
* threebean (1)
* LoKoMurdoK (1)
* Spack (1)
* lmacken (0)
* ricky (0)
* mdomsch (0)
* CodeBlock (0)
--
18:00:06 <nirik> #startmeeting Infrastructure (2012-09-06)
18:00:06 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Sep 6 18:00:06 2012 UTC. The chair is nirik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
18:00:06 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic.
18:00:07 <nirik> #meetingname infrastructure
18:00:07 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'infrastructure'
18:00:07 <nirik> #topic whats up!
18:00:07 <nirik> #chair smooge skvidal CodeBlock ricky nirik abadger1999 lmacken dgilmore mdomsch threebean
18:00:07 <zodbot> Current chairs: CodeBlock abadger1999 dgilmore lmacken mdomsch nirik ricky skvidal smooge threebean
18:00:15 * skvidal is here
18:00:15 <smooge> here on time
18:00:20 * _love_hurts_ here
18:00:28 * abadger1999 here
18:00:30 * akshaysth_ here
18:00:40 * Spack here
18:01:38 * puiterwijk here for the moment
18:01:54 * CodeBlock_ here ish.
18:02:24 * nirik will wait another min and then start in
18:04:34 <nirik> ok, lets go ahead then.
18:04:36 <nirik> #topic New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks.
18:04:42 <_love_hurts_> !
18:04:48 <nirik> any new folks want to say hi, or chime in with questions?
18:04:53 <nirik> go ahead _love_hurts_
18:04:55 <_love_hurts_> hello team! I am vipin
18:05:09 <_love_hurts_> I'm from india
18:05:27 <kilted1> Hi I would also like to join in the fun.
18:05:37 <_love_hurts_> IIT-BHU B.tech, 3 yrs experince as a Research Engineer in C-DOT india
18:05:53 <nirik> welcome _love_hurts_, kilted1.
18:05:57 <MadBus> hi there
18:05:58 <_love_hurts_> currently I'm working on Ticket 1084
18:06:07 <_love_hurts_> thanks
18:06:11 <MadBus> <- me isn't new, but just being welcoming ;-)
18:06:12 <akshaysth_> Hello everyone! My name is Akshay Suthar. I'm a Network Systems Engineer by day and novice C/C++ with Qt & Android developer. I'm based out of Toronto, Canada. I've been using fedora since FC2. I'm hoping to assist with the sysadmin side and possibly look to learning & assisting with python development.
18:06:33 <dgilmore> hey
18:06:38 <akshaysth_> sorry for the large intro :P
18:06:39 <kilted1> My name is Scott Suehle, Currently I am a SDE at the mothership
18:06:58 <kilted1> I am interested in SA, NOC and learning packaging
18:07:15 <nirik> cool. Lots of new folks today. ;)
18:08:12 <nirik> some good links to get started with: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/GettingStarted and http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure_Apprentice and http://fedoraproject.org/easyfix/
18:09:22 <nirik> so, do chime in with questions or comments and see me after the meeting and I can try and point you at things to look into.
18:09:33 <kilted1> sounds good
18:09:33 <nirik> any other new folks? or questions from any of you right now?
18:10:07 <_love_hurts_> !
18:10:30 <_love_hurts_> so I'm will be working on Ticket 1084
18:10:43 <_love_hurts_> is Mahrud too?
18:10:52 <_love_hurts_> I will*
18:11:00 <nirik> _love_hurts_: yeah, sounds like Mahrud had some info or work on it.
18:11:10 <_love_hurts_> ok
18:11:13 <nirik> I'd suggest if you can to meet up and see if you can both work on it.
18:11:27 <_love_hurts_> I had discussion with him
18:11:35 <_love_hurts_> today morning my timings
18:12:06 <_love_hurts_> and I have come up with a tiny step forward
18:12:20 <nirik> excellent
18:12:36 <_love_hurts_> a little bit change in Infrastructure/Architecture layout
18:12:52 <_love_hurts_> I would ask for improvements
18:12:58 <nirik> so, I would suggest making a new page that you could use for drafting out the new version...
18:13:12 <_love_hurts_> yes
18:13:42 <_love_hurts_> and I guess it will better if we discuss technical things in wiki talk page
18:13:58 <nirik> yeah, thats another place for feedback.
18:13:59 * nirik nods.
18:14:06 <nirik> ok, shall we move on then to the next topic?
18:14:12 <_love_hurts_> sure
18:14:44 <nirik> #topic Applications status / discussion
18:15:00 <nirik> ok, any apps news this week? abadger1999 / threebean / pingou / anyone else I forgot? ;)
18:15:22 <abadger1999> nope. slow week on that front.
18:15:35 <abadger1999> talked about some additional feature requests for elections
18:15:47 <abadger1999> (thumbnail support)
18:16:11 <puiterwijk> nirik: maybe the git repo hook? or is that more sysadmin stuff?
18:16:27 <nirik> puiterwijk: I think thats more sysadmin side.
18:16:51 <puiterwijk> nirik: ok
18:16:51 <nirik> lmacken is also out this week.
18:17:01 <nirik> #topic Sysadmin status / discussion
18:17:07 <skvidal> clouds!
18:17:08 <skvidal> clouds!
18:17:08 <nirik> :)
18:17:09 <skvidal> clouds!
18:17:10 <CodeBlock_> I will be deploying FAS 0.8.14.91 to staging by the end of the week, and finally emailing trans@ so they can start
18:17:12 <skvidal> and reinstalling!
18:17:13 <skvidal> and clouds!
18:17:15 * CodeBlock_ late as usual :)
18:17:59 <nirik> yeah, lots of testing and reinstalling cloud instances. ;)
18:18:04 <puiterwijk> last week, I have been busy on developing a git hook to reject binary blobs from the git repositories
18:18:04 <smooge> I have been hating java. java java
18:18:17 <smooge> working on budgets for next year and getting new boxes installed.
18:18:36 <smooge> puiterwijk, cool
18:18:43 <Ramesh> Hello everyone
18:18:45 <nirik> we are going to setup 2 cloudlets. One will probibly run eucalyptus and the other openstack. But it's all still up in the air until we finish testing things out.
18:19:09 <smooge> I forsee one running eucalyptus
18:19:23 <skvidal> one IS running eucalyptus and one IS running openstack at the moment
18:19:25 <smooge> hello Ramesh
18:19:42 <skvidal> we did a bunch of fun fun fun breaking of cloud software this week
18:19:44 <skvidal> it's a good time
18:19:48 <smooge> and hardware
18:19:51 <skvidal> true
18:19:52 <skvidal> and java
18:19:55 <skvidal> we broke java, too
18:19:59 <nirik> we are still in freeze also, so until alpha comes out, other changes are smallish.
18:20:02 <smooge> I hatez it.. the javaits
18:20:52 <abadger1999> nirik, puiterwijk: I saw the fesco meeting discussion about the binary blobs stuff -- are we ever going to be able to fix the mono repo? Or is that doomed to always be ginormous?
18:21:07 <nirik> abadger1999: it sounded like fesco didn't want to re-write history
18:21:22 <nirik> so, I fear it's going to stay gigantic. ;(
18:22:41 <abadger1999> <nod> Well -- I guess we'll revisit if the mono sig/maintainers complain.
18:22:54 <nirik> oh, puiterwijk's script to sync ssh keys to openshift is working now... so everyone in sysadmin-noc or sysadmin-main should be able to update our status.fedoraproject.org instance. See infra docs for process.
18:23:11 <abadger1999> Nice work puiterwijk!
18:24:27 <nirik> ok, I guess lets move along. ;)
18:24:36 <nirik> #topic F18 Alpha Release tickets/Freeze
18:24:43 <nirik> we are still in freeze, no alpha yet.
18:24:56 <nirik> the next go/no-go is after this meeting. ;)
18:25:07 <nirik> #topic Private Cloud status update
18:25:12 <nirik> Touched on this above...
18:25:19 <nirik> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure_private_cloud
18:25:27 <nirik> I've been trying to keep that page somewhat up to date.
18:25:31 <smooge> It looks intersting. I like the Euca side.. I am not sure about the openstack side yet
18:25:50 <nirik> Hopefully in the next few weeks we will open things up for more people to start testing on things... firing up instances, etc.
18:25:52 * threebean sneaks in late..
18:27:10 <nirik> #topic Upcoming Tasks/Items
18:27:42 <nirik> #info 2012-08-14 to 2012-09-11 F18 Alpha Freeze
18:27:43 <nirik> #info 2012-09-07 drop inactive fi-apprentices
18:27:43 <nirik> #info 2012-09-11 F18 Alpha release.
18:27:43 <nirik> #info 2012-09-10 to 2012-09-24 Skvidal is out
18:27:43 <nirik> #info 2012-10-02 to 2012-10-16 F18 Beta Freeze
18:27:43 <nirik> #info 2012-10-16 F18 Beta release
18:27:45 <nirik> #info 2012-10-30 to 2012-11-20 F18 Final Freeze
18:27:47 <nirik> #info 2012-11-20 F18 release.
18:27:49 <nirik> #info 2012-11-26 to 2012-11-29 Security FAD
18:27:55 * skvidal does the vacation dance
18:27:55 <nirik> This is what I have on my upcoming list.
18:28:04 <smooge> #info 2012-11-20 Next Fiscal Year Budget needs to be done
18:28:20 <nirik> as noted skvidal will be out starting next week. So, if you need him please corner him before then. ;)
18:28:42 <nirik> smooge: good to know. ;) I'll add it... and I have some things I want to put on it...
18:29:08 <nirik> and finally, our FAD...
18:29:19 <dgilmore> nirik: when is it again?
18:29:22 <nirik> If alpha slips another week today (as it will)
18:29:39 <nirik> then we are in release week for our scheduled dates.
18:29:45 <nirik> which is... not good.
18:29:46 <dgilmore> :(
18:29:58 <nirik> So, we can push out the fad again, but then it goes into december.
18:30:07 <nirik> and I know people don't like to travel in december
18:30:16 <abadger1999> nirik: Let someone else manage release; what can go wrong? ;-)
18:30:31 <nirik> abadger1999: well, I'm actually not worried about the release too much.
18:30:35 <nirik> we have that down pretty well now.
18:30:36 <dgilmore> nirik: im going back to australia in november
18:31:07 <nirik> The bigger problem is that we will be frozen... and doing sweeping auth changes will be... difficult without disrupting things.
18:31:18 <abadger1999> <nod>
18:31:21 <nirik> dgilmore: cool.
18:31:39 <nirik> so, my new proposal: See if we can all go to Fudcon 3 days early...
18:31:48 <nirik> and get the fad done before fudcon.
18:31:50 <nirik> thoughts?
18:31:51 <skvidal> when is fudcon, again?
18:32:07 <skvidal> and _where_ is it, again?
18:32:11 <nirik> January 18–20, 2013
18:32:16 <nirik> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Lawrence_2013
18:32:17 <kilted1> laurence ks
18:32:18 <skvidal> kansas
18:32:27 <skvidal> so we'd be gone for a week...
18:32:32 <skvidal> to kansas
18:32:37 <nirik> thrills!
18:32:44 <kilted1> chills
18:33:09 * abadger1999 will bring his x-country skis
18:33:20 * skvidal will bring extra supplies of 'will to live'
18:33:37 <skvidal> b/c I'm sure after 6 days that will be running AWFULLY short
18:33:47 <smooge> I think we are going to have to do it at the fudcon
18:34:27 <smooge> skvidal, its called single malt scotch on the 6th day
18:34:53 <nirik> I suppose it's possible we slip 3 more weeks and then our current proposed dates are before final freeze. ;)
18:34:55 <dgilmore> skvidal: kanas will be no different to here
18:35:06 * dgilmore will likely drive to kansas
18:35:12 <skvidal> dgilmore: yes, but it will be different from _here_
18:35:41 <nirik> anyhow, I can float it on the list and ask for feedback? or what do folks want to do?
18:36:07 <skvidal> I think we should change the freeze rules
18:36:09 * dgilmore is ok with december travel. but im ok with extra time at fudcon also
18:36:21 <skvidal> so we can do it
18:36:39 <nirik> well, the rules wouldn't be the problem actually, just the 'don't blow things up right before release'
18:37:15 <skvidal> nirik: which is the point... For all intents in purposes we can do the 2fa stuff w/o modifying most systems
18:37:19 <nirik> but we could slip more I suppose, which makes it less release weekly
18:37:33 <skvidal> for example - only deploy pam-url, etc on lockbox only
18:37:39 <skvidal> (one less only there)
18:37:57 <skvidal> <shrug>
18:38:06 <nirik> I suppose, it just makes it more difficult. ;) If folks thing we can make it work during freeze we could forge ahead with the current dates.
18:38:18 <nirik> dgilmore: you be back from au by then?
18:38:18 <skvidal> after 3 days of fudcon I am normally drilled, 6 days is going to be difficult
18:38:49 * skvidal is clearly old and stuff
18:38:52 <CodeBlock_> pre-fudcon would be better for me personally, less school to miss.
18:39:02 <dgilmore> nirik: ill likely be back on nov 28,
18:40:05 <nirik> ok, let me ponder on it and see... if we can make it work with the end of nov dates, I think that might be better...
18:40:12 * LoKoMurdoK here very late
18:40:29 * abadger1999 can do pre-fudcon or the current dates
18:40:44 <kilted1> where will the FAD be if it is not coinciding with Fudcon?
18:40:55 <nirik> kilted1: we are hoping to do it in Raleigh...
18:41:01 * kilted1 nods
18:41:15 <nirik> we can hopefully get some space at the lovely Red Hat tower to meet.
18:41:15 <kilted1> cool
18:42:03 <abadger1999> nirik: What about moving to pre-Thanksgiving week in Raleigh?
18:42:19 <abadger1999> or is that still in freeze?
18:42:37 <nirik> that would be out (with the extra slip today)
18:42:50 <nirik> I think we ruled it out before because it was release week a while back. ;)
18:43:03 <dgilmore> abadger1999: I cant make that. but that shouldnt stop things
18:43:20 <abadger1999> k and it's worse for codeblock too.
18:43:22 <smooge> Well another issue will be getting rooms in raleigh around thanksgiving
18:43:39 <abadger1999> nirik: the colution to that is to slip two weeks :-)
18:43:45 <smooge> would ahve to look at crashing in skvidals bike shed
18:43:57 <nirik> smooge: I think after it should be ok...
18:44:02 * skvidal has 1bathroom. no guests, kthx
18:44:36 <nirik> anyhow, I'll look at it and see. Lets tenatively keep planning for same dates... but don't book yet. ;)
18:44:42 <smooge> this release looks like one of those slips til Fudcon ones..
18:44:44 <nirik> #topic Open Floor
18:44:55 <nirik> anyone have items for open floor? questions? comments? ideas?
18:46:36 <smooge> not i
18:46:50 <_love_hurts_> !
18:47:21 <nirik> _love_hurts_: go ahead.
18:47:28 <_love_hurts_> can we use something like google map for showing our servers in Infrastructure/Architecture page?
18:47:33 <nirik> we don't usually bother with the meeting protocol, we are kinda informal. ;)
18:47:45 <_love_hurts_> so we can change dynamically location
18:47:55 <nirik> well, two issues with that:
18:48:20 <nirik> a) we in general don't want to depend on or use non free services. (Free as in open source available).
18:48:38 <nirik> b) in some cases datacenters do not wish to advertise where they are located exactly.
18:48:40 * skvidal wonders why we need to know where the servers are physically down to the long/lat
18:48:58 <_love_hurts_> I mean something similar to that which we can use?
18:49:17 <skvidal> _love_hurts_: what does it get us - to know the long/lat of our systems/colos?
18:49:36 <_love_hurts_> I guess it will be easy to change location dymanically
18:49:42 <_love_hurts_> no need to replace Image
18:50:04 <_love_hurts_> and user can zoom in and see in detail
18:50:09 <skvidal> okay
18:50:10 <skvidal> but again
18:50:14 <skvidal> what does that GET us?
18:50:22 <skvidal> how does it benefit us?
18:50:34 <_love_hurts_> just an Idea
18:50:42 <_love_hurts_> i was asking about it
18:50:43 <skvidal> I have no issue with the idea
18:50:48 <skvidal> I just want to know what the benefits are
18:50:55 <nirik> It may be useful to know where things are Network wise... ie, what backbones they peer with, etc.
18:50:57 <dgilmore> skvidal: i agree
18:51:04 <nirik> but I don't know of a mapping setup that does that. ;)
18:51:37 <dgilmore> nirik: to me thats far more useful than where things are physically
18:51:52 <dgilmore> i.e. a network map not a physical map
18:52:06 <skvidal> dgilmore: agreed - knowing the network-logical location is a plus
18:53:02 <nirik> broad geolocation is also useful to see what regions we point to that server...
18:53:14 <nirik> but that needs just "North America" or "Europe"
18:53:16 <smooge> _love_hurts_, one issue is that other than 3 sets of systems.. we have NO idea where some of our systems are physicall
18:53:25 <_love_hurts_> main benefits I see are dynamic tagging and detailed view
18:53:49 <dgilmore> _love_hurts_: dynamic tagging?
18:54:14 <dgilmore> i guess i dont understand the problem your trying to solve
18:54:22 <_love_hurts_> yeah...in case we get more server anywhere in the world we just have to do one more tagging
18:54:44 <dgilmore> _love_hurts_: sorry that means nothing to me
18:54:59 <_love_hurts_> like I can tag my Home in google map
18:55:01 <dgilmore> what tagging?
18:55:27 <dgilmore> _love_hurts_: what is the problem your trying to solve?
18:55:28 <_love_hurts_> in case I change my home I can tag to newer place
18:55:59 <nirik> lets clear the room for the next meeting and continue over in #fedora-admin
18:56:09 <nirik> unless there's any more last minute things?
18:56:21 <nirik> thanks for coming everyone!
18:56:23 <nirik> #endmeeting
11 years, 7 months
Fedora Board Recap: 2012-09-05
by Garrett Holmstrom
Minutes from today's Fedora Board meeting on 5 Sep 2012:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Board_meeting_2012-09-05
== Attendance ==
Present:
* Eric Christensen
* Robyn Bergeron
* David Nalley
* John Rose
* Peter Robinson
* Garrett Holmstrom
* Jaroslav Reznik
* Toshio Kuratomi
Absent:
* Christoph Wickert
* Nick Bebout
Special guest star: Rex Dieter
Today's lucky secretary: Garrett Holmstrom
== Minutes ==
=== Announcements ===
=== Mate Desktop/personnel issues ===
Rex Dieter, Dan Mashal's sponsor, guest starred here.
Action: Toshio will update the trac ticket with information about what
has already happened. (summarized version of what Rex has done about the
problem)
Action: Dan's Ambassador and Packaging sponsors are going to continue
working with him to help ensure the level of courteousness has improved.
Action: Robyn will send a message to the upstream developer about what
we've done so far. They can contact the board-private mailing list or
Rex if there are any further issues.
=== End-user Survey ===
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/End_User_Survey_Questions
=== 142: DRM Free ===
=== Open Floor / Your suggestion here / Who's got good news? ===
John talked to the Iowa State solar car team [1] about using Fedora/RH.
=== 141: Publicizing Board votes ===
The board will vote next week and in the trac ticket.
== Next meeting: IRC, 2012-09-12 ==
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Board_public_IRC_meetings
Peter will miss the next two weeks' meetings.
Garrett might miss next week's meeting.
[1] http://solarcar.stuorg.iastate.edu/home.php
11 years, 7 months
