Fedora Docs Meeting Minutes 30Dec2013
by Pete Travis
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#fedora-meeting: Docs Project Meeting - Agenda: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs_Project_meetings
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Meeting started by randomuser at 14:00:50 UTC. The full logs are
available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-12-30/fedora_docs.20...
.
Meeting summary
---------------
* Roll Call (randomuser, 14:00:51)
* New Writer Check-In (randomuser, 14:10:21)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Docs_Project_tasks?rd=Docs_Projec...
(randomuser, 14:17:57)
* ACTION: randomuser to clean up his mess with the release notes bugs
(randomuser, 14:30:43)
* Docs Website (randomuser, 14:37:28)
* Free Play (randomuser, 14:51:28)
Meeting ended at 15:00:59 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* randomuser to clean up his mess with the release notes bugs
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* randomuser
* randomuser to clean up his mess with the release notes bugs
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
---------------------------
* randomuser (60)
* jjmcd (17)
* ciupicri (11)
* lnovich (8)
* iWelcome (7)
* zodbot (3)
* nb (1)
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- Fedora Docs Project Leader
- 'randomuser' on freenode
- immanetize(a)fedoraproject.org
10 years, 3 months
2013-12-23 - Fedora QA Meeting - recap
by Adam Williamson
As always, minutes and IRC transcript available on the wiki at
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20131223
Next meeting is scheduled for 2013-12-30 at 1600 UTC in #fedora-meeting
(though likely to be cancelled).
If you have topics you think we should bring up at the meeting, please
add them to the Wiki page at
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20131230. Thanks!
TOPIC: Previous meeting follow-up
=======================================================================
* "adamw to push the sanity check proposal out, group seems to
approve" - this was done[1]
* "adamw to check F19 and F18 commonbugs for issues that should
be copied to F20" - this was done, and F19 commonbugs cleaned
up a bit
TOPIC: FedUp post-mortem
=======================================================================
* There was a SNAFU with fedup on release day: fedup 0.8 was
still in updates-testing for F18 and F19 on the day of
release, and it turned out upgrades to F20 with fedup 0.7 and
the release upgrade.img do not work
* Upgrades with 0.8 work fine, this was communicated via Common
Bugs[2] and various other means
* adamw changed the fedup test cases to recommend testing
latest stable fedup (instead of updates-testing) against the
current TC/RC tree (not development/ tree)
* It was noted by multiple parties that short RC lifetime is an
invitation to issues like the thinp and fedup bugs
TOPIC: Storage validation
=======================================================================
* Storage validation planning continues on list, there seems to
be broad agreement to try and cover guided partitioning
extensively and custom with a small(ish) 'must work' matrix
and a larger 'bonus credit' matrix
* cmurf was working on a mail to anaconda list proposing a
restriction on the breadth of custom partitioning coverage
TOPIC: Open floor
=======================================================================
* roshi and danofsatx working on a draft[3] for an improved
onboarding process
* cmurf suggests working with docs folks to highlight
'recommended' custom layouts
Action items
=======================================================================
* adamw to send fedup/thinp post-mortem email
1. https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2013-December/119558.html
2. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F20_bugs#fedup-07-fail
3. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Roshi/QA/Join
--
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Fedora QA Community Monkey
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http://www.happyassassin.net
10 years, 3 months
Fedora Chinese Meeting Minutes (2013-12-27)
by Alick Zhao
Hi all,
The IRC meeting minutes tonight are available at the links below. Thanks
everyone for attending the meeting.
In the meeting we talked about FUDCon bid progress, F20 Release Party,
L10N, and others. Please review the proposed ideas and actions.
The next IRC meeting will be held on next Friday (2014-01-04). It will
be the first meeting in new year! Please come and join the discussion if
you can!
Minutes:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-zh/2013-12-27/fedora-zh.2013-12-2...
Minutes (text):
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-zh/2013-12-27/fedora-zh.2013-12-2...
Log:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-zh/2013-12-27/fedora-zh.2013-12-2...
==================
#fedora-zh Meeting
==================
Meeting started by alick at 13:02:23 UTC. The full logs are available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-zh/2013-12-27/fedora-zh.2013-12-2...
.
Meeting summary
---------------
* 报到 (alick, 13:02:54)
* FUDCON APAC 2014 Bid (alick, 13:09:38)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Bid_for_Beijing_2014
(alick, 13:09:49)
* ACTION: dongfengweixiao update hotel info on wiki (alick, 13:11:10)
* ACTION: kaio update cost from Asia and Oceania (alick, 13:11:43)
* 申办提交截止应该在 1 月中旬之前 (alick, 13:12:50)
* 提交的申办材料越详细越好，总之就是表明有能力举办。 (alick, 13:13:36)
* IDEA: 所以预算清单应该是要有的。 (alick, 13:16:50)
* F20 Release Party (alick, 13:28:55)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Release_Party_F20_Shanghai
(alick, 13:32:29)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Release_Party_F20_Beijing
(alick, 13:32:37)
* ACTION: alick write event report for relparty Beijing (alick,
13:34:39)
* ACTION: RobberPhex write event report for relparty Shanghai (alick,
13:34:53)
* ACTION: RobberPhex post feedback survey for relparty Shanghai
(alick, 13:39:06)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/MarketingCollateral
(alick, 13:50:01)
* ACTION: dongfengweixiao recreate sticker design and share it
publicly (alick, 13:50:43)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_collateral?rd=Artwork/MarketingC...
(alick, 13:51:15)
* ACTION: tonghuix create localized sticker design (alick, 13:51:45)
* T-shirt 需要制作新一批了 (alick, 13:52:15)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/T-Shirt (tonghuix,
13:52:54)
* L10N (alick, 13:53:03)
Meeting ended at 14:12:40 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* dongfengweixiao update hotel info on wiki
* kaio update cost from Asia and Oceania
* alick write event report for relparty Beijing
* RobberPhex write event report for relparty Shanghai
* RobberPhex post feedback survey for relparty Shanghai
* dongfengweixiao recreate sticker design and share it publicly
* tonghuix create localized sticker design
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* alick
* alick write event report for relparty Beijing
* RobberPhex
* RobberPhex write event report for relparty Shanghai
* RobberPhex post feedback survey for relparty Shanghai
* tonghuix
* tonghuix create localized sticker design
* **UNASSIGNED**
* dongfengweixiao update hotel info on wiki
* kaio update cost from Asia and Oceania
* dongfengweixiao recreate sticker design and share it publicly
People Present (lines said)
---------------------------
* alick (88)
* zsun (21)
* zodbot (17)
* RobberPhex (12)
* tonghuix (11)
* endle (10)
* BadGirl (7)
* LiuYan (5)
* isyangxin (2)
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10 years, 3 months
Logs from the APAC meeting held on December 21 2013
by Ankur Sinha
Hi,
We thank everyone who took the time out to attend the meeting. We
discussed quite a few tickets and got quite some work done.
Please find the complete logs at these links:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-12-21/apac_ambassado...
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-12-21/apac_ambassado...
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-12-21/apac_ambassado...
Short meeting notes:
> * Init process (FranciscoD, 04:01:14)
>
> * Announcements (FranciscoD, 04:03:47)
> * Fedora 20 is *LIVE* (FranciscoD, 04:04:21)
> * bckurera hasn't been able to make it again. (FranciscoD, 04:04:53)
> * No special announcements from FAmSCo. (FranciscoD, 04:06:18)
>
> * Trac tickets to be discussed. (FranciscoD, 04:07:03)
> * Ticket 103: Fedora 20 Release Party and Event For January 2014 -
> dramsey (FranciscoD, 04:07:55)
> * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/103 (FranciscoD,
> 04:08:01)
> * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Release_Party_F20_Tokyo
> (FranciscoD, 04:08:10)
> * AGREED: dramsey 's tickets #102 and #103 approved. (FranciscoD,
> 04:20:54)
> * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/90 (ikhyar,
> 04:21:03)
> * ACTION: FranciscoD update ticket with approval details (FranciscoD,
> 04:21:03)
> * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/90 (FranciscoD,
> 04:21:48)
> * #90 - Indonesia community Release party. (FranciscoD, 04:22:02)
> * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/APAC/Reimbursement
> (tuanta, 04:31:11)
> * ACTION: blurr ikhyar Relay to the Indonesia community that events
> will not be reimbursed if their tickets are not approved before hand
> in an APAC meeting.
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/APAC/Reimbursement
> (FranciscoD, 04:34:52)
> * AGREED: Approve ticket #90 - make an exception this time.
> (FranciscoD, 04:38:20)
> * ACTION: FranciscoD update ticket 90 with approval details
> (FranciscoD, 04:38:30)
> * Sponsorship for FOSSASIA 2014 -
> https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/98 (FranciscoD,
> 04:39:24)
> * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FOSSASIA_2014 is the wiki page
> (kushal, 04:40:18)
> * LINK: http://fossasia.org/schedule-fossasia-2014 (FranciscoD,
> 04:50:48)
> * ACTION: FranciscoD request event organizer for FOSSASIA to attend
> the meeting so we can make a decision on it. (FranciscoD, 04:55:00)
> * ACTION: FranciscoD request Mario to attend next meeting so we can
> discuss his event (FranciscoD, 04:59:34)
> * Ticket #99 - Release party in Beijing, China - alick
> https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/99 (FranciscoD,
> 05:03:41)
> * AGREED: APPROVED Release Party in Beijing, China
> https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/99 (FranciscoD,
> 05:07:34)
> * ACTION: FranciscoD update ticket with approval details.
> (FranciscoD, 05:07:48)
> * Ticket 100 https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/100 -
> RobberPhex (FranciscoD, 05:08:29)
> * AGREED: APPROVED Release party Shanghai China - RobberPhex
> https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/100 (FranciscoD,
> 05:10:34)
> * ACTION: FranciscoD update ticket 100 with approval (FranciscoD,
> 05:10:40)
> * Ticket 101 Release party Hanio, Vietnam - nangthang (FranciscoD,
> 05:11:43)
> * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/101 (FranciscoD,
> 05:11:46)
> * AGREED: APPROVED release party Hanoi - nangthang
> https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/101 (FranciscoD,
> 05:13:40)
> * ACTION: FranciscoD update ticket 101 with approval details
> (FranciscoD, 05:13:48)
> * ACTION: tuanta to send to Ambassadors list to remind people about
> event reports and pictures (tuanta, 05:22:30)
>
> * Open floor (FranciscoD, 05:23:11)
> * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/APAC/Budget
> (tuanta, 05:24:09)
> * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Bid_for_Beijing_2014
> (alick, 05:39:08)
>
> Meeting ended at 05:44:03 UTC.
>
>
>
>
> Action Items
> ------------
> * FranciscoD update ticket with approval details
> * blurr ikhyar Relay to the Indonesia community that events will not be
> reimbursed if their tickets are not approved before hand in an APAC
> meeting. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/APAC/Reimbursement
> * FranciscoD update ticket 90 with approval details
> * FranciscoD request event organizer for FOSSASIA to attend the meeting
> so we can make a decision on it.
> * FranciscoD request Mario to attend next meeting so we can discuss his
> event
> * FranciscoD update ticket with approval details.
> * FranciscoD update ticket 100 with approval
> * FranciscoD update ticket 101 with approval details
> * tuanta to send to Ambassadors list to remind people about event
> reports and pictures
>
>
>
>
> Action Items, by person
> -----------------------
> * blurr
> * blurr ikhyar Relay to the Indonesia community that events will not
> be reimbursed if their tickets are not approved before hand in an
> APAC meeting.
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/APAC/Reimbursement
> * FranciscoD
> * FranciscoD update ticket with approval details
> * FranciscoD update ticket 90 with approval details
> * FranciscoD request event organizer for FOSSASIA to attend the
> meeting so we can make a decision on it.
> * FranciscoD request Mario to attend next meeting so we can discuss
> his event
> * FranciscoD update ticket with approval details.
> * FranciscoD update ticket 100 with approval
> * FranciscoD update ticket 101 with approval details
> * ikhyar
> * blurr ikhyar Relay to the Indonesia community that events will not
> be reimbursed if their tickets are not approved before hand in an
> APAC meeting.
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/APAC/Reimbursement
> * tuanta
> * tuanta to send to Ambassadors list to remind people about event
> reports and pictures
> * **UNASSIGNED**
> * (none)
>
>
>
>
> People Present (lines said)
> ---------------------------
> * FranciscoD (224)
> * tuanta (163)
> * alick (44)
> * zodbot (32)
> * harish (20)
> * ikhyar (15)
> * kushal (12)
> * nangthang (12)
> * dramsey (11)
> * blurr (10)
> * RobberPhex (5)
> * blurr_ (4)
> * tonghuix (1)
> * iThinkDev (1)
--
Thanks,
Warm regards,
Ankur (FranciscoD)
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ankursinha
Join Fedora! Come talk to us!
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Join_SIG
10 years, 4 months
Fedora Chinese Meeting Minutes (2013-12-20)
by Alick Zhao
Hi all,
The IRC meeting minutes tonight are available at the links below. Thanks
everyone for attending the meeting.
In the meeting we talked about FUDCon bid progress, F20 Release Party,
L10N, and others. Please review the proposed ideas and actions.
The next IRC meeting will be held on next Friday (2013-12-27). Please
come and join the discussion if you can!
Minutes:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-zh/2013-12-20/fedora-zh.2013-12-2...
Minutes (text):
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-zh/2013-12-20/fedora-zh.2013-12-2...
Log:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-zh/2013-12-20/fedora-zh.2013-12-2...
==================
#fedora-zh Meeting
==================
Meeting started by alick at 13:04:46 UTC. The full logs are available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-zh/2013-12-20/fedora-zh.2013-12-2...
.
Meeting summary
---------------
* 报到 (alick, 13:04:51)
* FUDCON APAC 2014 申办 (alick, 13:08:12)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Bid_for_Beijing_2014
(alick, 13:08:25)
* GNOME.Asia 已经确定在北航开了。 (alick, 13:11:30)
* ACTION: dongfengweixiao update hotel info (alick, 13:15:30)
* ACTION: kaio update cost from Asia and Oceania (alick, 13:16:05)
* ACTION: alick query whether budget is necessary for bid (alick,
13:20:25)
* F20 Release Party (alick, 13:20:42)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Release_Party_F20_Beijing
(alick, 13:20:56)
* IDEA: 我觉得的妥协办法是用一个平板，iPad 或者 Android pad + 搜狗输入
法…… (alick,
13:30:22)
* IDEA: 签到内容越少越好，我的建议是 名字/id，邮箱，两项，不要再多。
(alick, 13:34:08)
* LINK: http://www.rodsbooks.com/efi-bootloaders/secureboot.html
(dongfengweixiao, 13:35:01)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Release_Party_F20_Shanghai
(alick, 13:46:04)
* ACTION: alick RobberPhex attend tomorrow's apac meeting (alick,
13:49:10)
* L10N (alick, 13:54:38)
* LINK: http://www.rodsbooks.com/efi-bootloaders/secureboot.html
(dongfengweixiao, 13:57:22)
* LINK: http://susepaste.org/96284204 (alick, 14:04:37)
* LINK: http://susepaste.org/8440305 (zsun, 14:07:37)
Meeting ended at 14:10:55 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* dongfengweixiao update hotel info
* kaio update cost from Asia and Oceania
* alick query whether budget is necessary for bid
* alick RobberPhex attend tomorrow's apac meeting
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* alick
* alick query whether budget is necessary for bid
* alick RobberPhex attend tomorrow's apac meeting
* dongfengweixiao
* dongfengweixiao update hotel info
* **UNASSIGNED**
* kaio update cost from Asia and Oceania
People Present (lines said)
---------------------------
* alick (105)
* dongfengweixiao (79)
* zsun (46)
* Robin_cheese_Lee (23)
* isyangxin (11)
* BadGirl (9)
* FedoraCmdBot (5)
* zodbot (4)
* endle (4)
* microcai (1)
* tonghuix (0)
* tiansworld (0)
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10 years, 4 months
2013-12-16 - Fedora QA Meeting - recap
by Adam Williamson
As always, minutes and IRC transcript available on the wiki at
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20131216
Next meeting is scheduled for 2013-12-23 at 1600 UTC in #fedora-meeting.
If you have topics you think we should bring up at the meeting, please
add them to the Wiki page at
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20131223. Thanks!
TOPIC: Previous meeting follow-up
=======================================================================
* "adamw to draft a new test case and matrix row for validating
cloud image checksums" - that was done[1]
TOPIC: Fedora 20 recap
=======================================================================
* Fedora 20 is signed off - thanks to all testers!
* We dissected the then-known major bugs in the release
* All major known bugs were documented at Common_F20_bugs[2]
TOPIC: Fedora 21 planning
=======================================================================
* Project-wide, planning is blocking on Fedora.next[3] until
the WGs report to FESCo in January; this makes QA planning
for Fedora 21 mostly impossible until then
* FESCo has declared that Fedora 21 will not be released any
earlier than late August 2014 (may be later)
TOPIC: Open floor
=======================================================================
N/A
Action items
=======================================================================
* adamw to push the sanity check proposal out, group seems to
approve
* adamw to check F19 and F18 commonbugs for issues that should
be copied to F20
1. https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2013-December/119513.html
2. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F20_bugs
3. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora.next
--
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net
http://www.happyassassin.net
10 years, 4 months
Summary/Minutes from today's Fedora Infrastructure meeting (2013-12-19)
by Kevin Fenzi
============================================
#fedora-meeting: Infrastructure (2013-12-19)
============================================
Meeting started by nirik at 19:00:03 UTC. The full logs are available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-12-19/infrastructure...
.
Meeting summary
---------------
* welcome y'all (nirik, 19:00:04)
* New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks (nirik, 19:01:40)
* Applications status / discussion (nirik, 19:08:46)
* ACTION: nirik to coordinate with pingou about cnucnuweb and legal
concerns, will talk to fedora-legal (nirik, 19:16:27)
* new python-fedora out later today for testing (nirik, 19:20:49)
* badges server can now authorize specific users to hand out specific
badges. (nirik, 19:23:07)
* Sysadmin status / discussion (nirik, 19:24:25)
* upgraded to puppet 2.7 without too much pain (nirik, 19:24:44)
* updates will be applied later today and non outage causing reboots
done. (nirik, 19:31:10)
* Upcoming Tasks/Items (nirik, 19:33:41)
* LINK: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/list/infrastructure/
(nirik, 19:33:41)
* Open Floor (nirik, 19:40:45)
* LINK: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CRIME_%28security_exploit%29
(tyll_, 19:43:57)
* LINK: http://www.data.gouv.fr/ (threebean, 19:46:44)
* no meetings next two weeks. (nirik, 19:49:44)
Meeting ended at 19:50:01 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* nirik to coordinate with pingou about cnucnuweb and legal concerns,
will talk to fedora-legal
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* nirik
* nirik to coordinate with pingou about cnucnuweb and legal concerns,
will talk to fedora-legal
* pingou
* nirik to coordinate with pingou about cnucnuweb and legal concerns,
will talk to fedora-legal
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
---------------------------
* nirik (107)
* abadger1999 (30)
* threebean (29)
* tyll_ (10)
* relrod (8)
* zodbot (6)
* smooge (4)
* janeznemanic (4)
* lmacken (3)
* ianweller (1)
* fchiulli (1)
* docent (1)
* tflink (1)
* puiterwijk (0)
* mdomsch (0)
* pingou (0)
* dgilmore (0)
--
19:00:03 <nirik> #startmeeting Infrastructure (2013-12-19)
19:00:03 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Dec 19 19:00:03 2013 UTC. The chair is nirik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
19:00:03 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic.
19:00:04 <nirik> #meetingname infrastructure
19:00:04 <nirik> #topic welcome y'all
19:00:04 <nirik> #chair smooge relrod nirik abadger1999 lmacken dgilmore mdomsch threebean pingou puiterwijk
19:00:04 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'infrastructure'
19:00:04 <zodbot> Current chairs: abadger1999 dgilmore lmacken mdomsch nirik pingou puiterwijk relrod smooge threebean
19:00:34 * ianweller is hereish
19:00:38 * tflink is lurking
19:00:44 * threebean is here
19:01:23 * relrod here
19:01:25 * abadger1999 is here
19:01:34 <nirik> morning everyone.
19:01:40 <nirik> #topic New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks
19:01:55 <nirik> any new folks like to introduce themselves? or apprentices with questions or comments?
19:02:11 <janeznemanic> me
19:02:25 <nirik> hey janeznemanic
19:02:32 <janeznemanic> guys do i ask to many questions
19:02:35 * lmacken here
19:02:49 <nirik> janeznemanic: not at all. ;) questions are good...
19:02:50 <threebean> janeznemanic: no
19:02:54 <threebean> :)
19:03:16 <janeznemanic> okey then
19:03:50 <nirik> we may not get to them as fast as you like, but we will get there. ;)
19:04:15 <janeznemanic> the important thing is that you get there
19:04:33 <tyll_> I would like to become an apprentice
19:05:02 <nirik> hey tyll_
19:05:15 <nirik> love to have you help out and look around... I can add you after the meeting.
19:06:04 * docent is late :)
19:06:17 <nirik> hey docent
19:06:50 <tyll_> thanks, not sure what to write to introduce myself - I wold like to get a fedmsg service running for rel-eng
19:07:15 * fchiulli is also late
19:07:23 <nirik> thats a good quantifyable goal. ;)
19:07:38 <nirik> morning fchiulli
19:07:42 <threebean> tyll_: cool :) I'm glad to try and help wherever I can
19:08:27 <nirik> ok, shall we move on to applications?
19:08:46 <nirik> #topic Applications status / discussion
19:08:49 <tyll_> threebean: thank you, I assume I will need it
19:08:56 <nirik> any application news this week or upcoming?
19:09:53 * nirik listens to the crickets. :)
19:09:57 <threebean> nothing much here. ;)
19:09:59 <tyll_> Is cnucnuweb already an officially planned Fedora App? I was wondering whether it will be ok to use it for RPMFusion as well
19:10:23 <threebean> tyll_: well, pingou has been spearheading it and he's not here today.
19:10:36 <threebean> but I'm pretty sure resources have already been allocated for it.
19:10:37 <nirik> yeah. it is in the planning stages tho
19:10:46 * threebean nods
19:11:09 <nirik> tyll_: you were thinking of using the same fedora one for rpmfusion? or a seperate install somewhere?
19:11:23 <nirik> I guess if it could work to treat that as another distro...
19:11:38 <smooge> and I am here sorry
19:11:43 <nirik> morning smooge
19:12:15 <tyll_> yes, it would be a different distro I suppose - I was wondering whether there will be legal problems
19:12:28 <abadger1999> I'll get a new python-fedora out today for fedora/epel updates-testing
19:12:37 <abadger1999> nirik: Hmm.... might have to ask spot that.
19:12:48 <nirik> yeah, not sure, so yeah, we should ask spot
19:12:50 <abadger1999> nirik: because cnucnu does have links to the upstream source.
19:12:57 <abadger1999> which might be contributory infringement :-(
19:13:10 <nirik> yeah
19:13:17 <tyll_> it might be a problem for debian as well or other distros in general
19:13:31 <nirik> tyll_: yep. if they ship something we don't, etc.
19:13:54 <tyll_> nirik: usually they ship mp3 stuff
19:14:06 <nirik> so, should I send such an email? or would one of you like to and cc me? ;)
19:14:20 <nirik> or should we ask pingou to...
19:14:34 <nirik> since he likely knows more about what it contains, etc.
19:15:09 <nirik> how about I drop pingou a note about it and we can go from there.
19:15:18 <tyll_> this sounds good
19:16:27 <nirik> #action nirik to coordinate with pingou about cnucnuweb and legal concerns, will talk to fedora-legal
19:16:52 <nirik> abadger1999: what changes in that new python-fedora?
19:17:08 <abadger1999> Numerous bugfixes to the flask_fas_openid identity provider.
19:17:15 <abadger1999> Shold work with the flask i nfedora.
19:18:07 <abadger1999> Some improvements to how it's built
19:18:20 <abadger1999> Which should help people who are using it in a virtualenv
19:18:23 <nirik> does this mean dropping some hotfixes we are using now?
19:19:02 <abadger1999> yes, I'll have to check to make sure but I think it'll take care of all our python-fedora hotfixes.
19:19:39 <abadger1999> nirik: You may need a bit of help with some of that... I'm not sure how to find all the ansible-based hotfixes.
19:19:40 <nirik> nice. do we want to try and land that tomorrow? or punt until after the holidays?
19:19:51 <abadger1999> nirik: I'd punt
19:19:56 <nirik> ok.
19:20:04 <abadger1999> I don't know of anything that's broken right now
19:20:23 <abadger1999> So I'd rather let it sit in fedora/epel update-testing repo than get called over vacation :-)
19:20:30 <nirik> fair enough.
19:20:45 <threebean> oh - I pushed out a new badges release earlier this week. It adds a feature allowing us to authorize certain users to hand out certain badges.
19:20:49 <nirik> #info new python-fedora out later today for testing
19:21:09 <nirik> threebean: oh yeah? how does that work?
19:21:13 <threebean> it opens the door for a bunch of new badges that have been sitting in the queue.
19:21:38 <nirik> nice... like blessing of the fpl?
19:21:39 <threebean> I go to the admin panel and say "nirik" is authorized for the "Infrastructure Gold Star" badge
19:22:02 <threebean> then if you want to hand out gold stars to people who do good work, you go to the page for that badge and you'll see two new buttons.
19:22:20 <threebean> one to award the badge directly to a person, and another to create an invitation/qrcode for that badge.
19:22:29 <threebean> we'll use it for the "FPL's blessing" badge
19:22:33 <nirik> nice!
19:22:37 <threebean> but moreso for the upcoming docs writing badges
19:23:07 <nirik> #info badges server can now authorize specific users to hand out specific badges.
19:23:15 <nirik> sounds great. :)
19:23:35 * threebean makes a note to blog about it after the holidays
19:23:58 <nirik> sounds goodly.
19:24:25 <nirik> #topic Sysadmin status / discussion
19:24:33 <nirik> so, on the sysadmin front...
19:24:44 <nirik> #info upgraded to puppet 2.7 without too much pain
19:25:09 <nirik> I've been trying to quiet things that send email so they don't do so over the holidays.
19:25:23 <nirik> I'm also going to try and land the ansible cron thing soon.
19:25:45 <nirik> I'm planning a lot of ansible changes to fix old syntax.
19:25:54 <nirik> I might do some of that over the break, but will try and be quiet about it. ;)
19:26:06 <threebean> ha :) cool
19:26:23 <threebean> I haven't yet found a way to get ansible to tell me where the deprecated warnings come from
19:26:24 <nirik> I was thinking we might also want to do a mass update (no rebooting, just update) today or tomorrow... so we are all rolled up on security...
19:26:42 <nirik> threebean: yeah, I was going to look for $'s mostly.
19:26:49 <abadger1999> Hmm... why no rebooting?
19:27:07 <nirik> there's --syntax-check also
19:27:09 * relrod votes today if we do it, so we have tomorrow to fix any issues that crop up from it...
19:27:18 <nirik> abadger1999: well, no time to schedule outages?
19:27:31 <abadger1999> nirik: <nod> just thinking -- if they reboot on their own over the break.
19:27:38 <nirik> I guess we could just do them with no notice... but I dislike that.
19:27:40 <abadger1999> then something might break at that time.
19:27:49 <nirik> the kernel update doesn't have anything important to us...
19:27:55 <nirik> I don't think
19:28:56 <nirik> abadger1999: true... but better break than be insecure... it's usually a lot easier to clean up from a boot breakage over a compromise. ;)
19:29:03 <abadger1999> <nod>
19:29:08 <abadger1999> roger that.
19:29:50 <nirik> relrod: yeah, today would be fine with me too... more time to fix.
19:29:51 <abadger1999> Maybe we can reboot the "app" servers and the proxies?
19:30:00 <abadger1999> since they all have redundancy.
19:30:08 <nirik> yeah, there's a number we can do...
19:30:11 <abadger1999> and they're a likely vector of entry
19:30:18 <nirik> just not db servers or the like
19:30:23 <abadger1999> yeah.
19:30:39 <nirik> so, sure, we can do all the non outage causing ones. ;)
19:31:10 <nirik> #info updates will be applied later today and non outage causing reboots done.
19:31:16 <smooge> fas of course :)
19:31:42 <nirik> oh, on the fas servers... I might like to try and switch them to virtio at least too.
19:31:51 <nirik> should make them a bit faster
19:32:28 <nirik> as a side note, they are some of our last 32bit machines... when we move to rhel7 we won't have that option... ;)
19:33:00 <abadger1999> k. We'll just need to scale up the RAM on the hosts if we need to.
19:33:02 <lmacken> need more ram then :)
19:33:04 <lmacken> heh
19:33:10 <nirik> yep
19:33:41 <nirik> #topic Upcoming Tasks/Items
19:33:41 <nirik> https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/list/infrastructure/
19:33:53 <nirik> anything upcoming folks would like to note or schedule?
19:34:04 <nirik> we are out of freeze now, but heading into holidays.
19:34:23 <nirik> Do we want to do some kind of holiday freeze? or just hope people are careful?
19:34:40 <smooge> nothing on my part. I will be away from keyboard from 21st -> 6th
19:34:45 <abadger1999> we've done a holiday freeze in the past.
19:34:55 * nirik looks back
19:36:14 <nirik> can't find it.
19:36:32 <abadger1999> I guess it depends on who's around and willing to work on fixing stuff though -- I think I shouldn't touch stuff because I can definitely break more than I can fix ;-)
19:36:35 <nirik> anyhow, I'm ok either way... some kind of relaxed freeze, or just ask everyone to be careful
19:36:56 <relrod> I think relaxed holiday freeze is reasonable. I will be around intermittently and be able to +1 things if people need.
19:36:58 <nirik> well, I am going to be around (not planning any trips or anything).
19:37:26 <nirik> however, I'm hoping to not get paged or be pulled into working on something when I am not wanting to. ;)
19:37:41 <abadger1999> nirik: <nod> I wouldn't have a problem with you doing things or authorizing other people to work on a change.
19:38:12 <nirik> I think most of us are going to be taking it easy... so, just trying to be careful and chastising anyone who breaks things works for me. ;)
19:38:13 <threebean> yeah, let's just freeze.
19:38:19 <abadger1999> because I know if you break it you'll be up all of christmas eve working on a fix ;-)
19:38:20 <threebean> if we authorize nirik to authorize people
19:38:27 <nirik> heh.
19:38:29 <threebean> then people will ping him
19:38:32 <nirik> I really hope not to.
19:38:39 <abadger1999> threebean: good pooint.
19:38:54 <nirik> how about this: any changes, get a +1 on list
19:39:00 <nirik> from anyone
19:39:14 <nirik> that shows at least two people are around and it looks ok to them
19:39:29 <abadger1999> <nod> and fixing things doesn't need approval. Just things that are new.
19:39:35 <nirik> right.
19:39:43 <threebean> sounds good
19:39:47 <relrod> works for me
19:40:01 <nirik> I can send out a note to the list... unless someone else would like to? ;)
19:40:36 <nirik> I can. ;)
19:40:38 <threebean> :D
19:40:45 <nirik> #topic Open Floor
19:40:57 <nirik> anyone have anything for open floor?
19:41:00 <relrod> A question that came up in -apps a bit ago, does anyone know if it is intentional that our subdomains (apps, admin, etc) don't gzip their output? If it's not intentional or nobody knows, I would like to enable gzip at least for apps.fp.o in staging for now, and see if anything breaks. Nothing that doesn't send "Accept: gzip" should see any difference.
19:41:02 <nirik> questions, suggestions, comments?
19:41:21 <nirik> relrod: yes, there were several tickets around this...
19:41:34 <nirik> blindly gzipping resulted in double gzipping things. ;(
19:41:56 <nirik> I can find the tickets
19:42:52 <nirik> .ticket 3859
19:42:53 <zodbot> nirik: #3859 (http://dl.fedoraproject.org sends incorrect content-encoding header) – Fedora Infrastructure - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/3859
19:42:59 <nirik> .ticket 4005
19:43:00 <zodbot> nirik: #4005 (pkgs.fedoraproject.org content encoding misconfiguration) – Fedora Infrastructure - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/4005
19:43:13 <tyll_> I believe there are some possible attacks against TLS with compression enabled
19:43:45 <nirik> reminds me, we should figure out actions from that ticket asking us to change tls options. ;)
19:43:57 <tyll_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CRIME_%28security_exploit%29
19:44:29 * relrod notes that fp.o does gzip (including the wiki, and including with https)
19:44:35 <relrod> just not subdomains
19:45:04 <nirik> yeah, not sure the permutations off hand. Lets continue discussing in #fedora-admin?
19:45:17 <relrod> nirik: I'll read over those tickets and see what I can see ;)
19:45:29 <nirik> ok, sounds good.
19:45:44 <threebean> other news -> ansible galaxy just launched https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/ansible-announce/W40GgVxbU6U/KfY4nm...
19:45:51 <nirik> yes indeed. ;)
19:45:58 * nirik needs to look at it more, haven't had time.
19:46:26 <nirik> also, there's a new fedmsg user in the world now right?
19:46:32 <threebean> oh, right!
19:46:44 <threebean> http://www.data.gouv.fr/
19:46:59 <threebean> ^^ is a new fedmsg deployment
19:47:25 <threebean> the devs have been too busy getting ready for their debut (yesterday) to give me many details.
19:47:29 <nirik> thats pretty awesome. ;)
19:47:34 <threebean> i'll try to have a writeup for it in the new year :)
19:47:43 <nirik> yeah, would make a great story
19:48:10 <nirik> ok, if nothing else, will close out in a minute...
19:49:33 <nirik> oh, note no meeting next week or week after! :)
19:49:40 <smooge> NO MEETING!!!!!
19:49:44 <nirik> #info no meetings next two weeks.
19:49:59 <nirik> Thanks for coming everyone.
19:50:01 <nirik> #endmeeting
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Summary/Minutes from today's FPC Meeting (2013-12-19 17:00 - 18:30 UTC)
by James Antill
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#fedora-meeting-1: fpc
======================
Meeting started by abadger1999 at 17:02:09 UTC. The full logs are
available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2013-12-19/fpc.2013-12-...
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Meeting summary
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* Next Meeting (abadger1999, 17:04:34)
* Next meeting will be January 9, 2014 (abadger1999, 17:06:38)
* #374 Ada guidelines changes for Comfignat and runpaths (abadger1999,
17:12:00)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/374 (abadger1999,
17:12:11)
* Rombobeorn is going to do some testing of check-rpaths and add
running that to the proposal (abadger1999, 17:41:59)
* #358 Please make some autotools guidelines. (abadger1999,
17:42:27)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/358 (abadger1999,
17:42:37)
* #369 Guidance on dealing with the bundled libev in perl-EV
(abadger1999, 17:44:23)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/369 (abadger1999,
17:44:34)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/369#comment:5
(abadger1999, 17:45:13)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/337 (abadger1999,
17:55:34)
* 337 Guidelines needed for header only libraries (abadger1999,
18:09:10)
* header only libraries draft passes with a modification to require
such packages to be arch'd (+1:6, 0:0, -1:0) (abadger1999,
18:09:47)
* #369 Guidance on dealing with the bundled libev in perl-EV
(abadger1999, 18:10:00)
* #375 Update to the Addon Packages naming guidelines for Python 3
Modules (abadger1999, 18:11:24)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/375 (abadger1999,
18:11:31)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/376 (abadger1999,
18:26:28)
* 376 Make a clarification about the use of %{__python2} in epel, in the
guidelines. (abadger1999, 18:26:37)
* Proposal to add information on macros for epel5 to the python
guidelines page approved (+:5, 0:0, -1:0) (abadger1999, 18:33:37)
* Open Floor (abadger1999, 18:33:42)
Meeting ended at 18:34:21 UTC.
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* (none)
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* geppetto (34)
* Rathann (22)
* limburgher (20)
* Rombobeorn (16)
* racor (12)
* RemiFedora (10)
* zodbot (6)
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Overflow Meeting Minutes / December 19, 2013
by Stephen Gallagher
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#fedora-meeting-1: Server Working Group Special Overflow Meeting
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Meeting started by sgallagh at 14:59:41 UTC. The full logs are available
at
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* roll call (sgallagh, 14:59:50)
* PRD: Use Cases (sgallagh, 15:08:05)
* Fedora Cloud has requested a joint PRD hackfest on Jan 8 (sgallagh,
15:10:40)
* ACTION: @ Joint PRD Hackfest to-do: Ask Cloud WG about use case #1
"Provide a platform for acting as a node in an OpenStack rack." <=
hypervisor (mizmo, 15:10:53)
* It should be possible to install a GUI-less server. (mizmo,
15:22:21)
* AGREED: Server must be useful in fully headless operation. We commit
to supporting only those GUI applications that can work with
forwarded X (or the equivalent on other windowing systems) (+5, 0,
-0) (sgallagh, 15:32:57)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Server/Use_Cases (mitr,
15:50:33)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Server/Use_Cases (sgallagh,
15:50:37)
* LINK: http://piratepad.net/serverwg-usecases (mizmo, 15:56:02)
* LINK: http://piratepad.net/serverwg-usecases (sgallagh, 16:00:53)
* ACTION: approach software collection wg about use case #4: "The user
must be able to easily deploy and configure applications to
supported high-value frameworks. (Example frameworks: Ruby on Rails,
Django, Turbogears, Node.js, PHP, JBoss.)" (mizmo, 16:07:25)
* ACTION: ask cloud wg about use case #9: "Users must be able to
create, manipulate and terminate large numbers of containers using a
stable and consistent interface" (mizmo, 16:32:04)
* ACTION: sgallagh to update the PRD draft (sgallagh, 16:35:42)
* ACTION: sgallagh to send email requesting prioritization of the
use-cases (sgallagh, 16:36:01)
* Open Floor (sgallagh, 16:38:01)
* Cross-WG PRD Hackfest 14:00 UTC to 18:00 UTC on 2014-01-08
(sgallagh, 16:38:51)
Meeting ended at 16:40:36 UTC.
Action Items
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* @ Joint PRD Hackfest to-do: Ask Cloud WG about use case #1 "Provide a
platform for acting as a node in an OpenStack rack." <= hypervisor
* approach software collection wg about use case #4: "The user must be
able to easily deploy and configure applications to supported
high-value frameworks. (Example frameworks: Ruby on Rails, Django,
Turbogears, Node.js, PHP, JBoss.)"
* ask cloud wg about use case #9: "Users must be able to create,
manipulate and terminate large numbers of containers using a stable
and consistent interface"
* sgallagh to update the PRD draft
* sgallagh to send email requesting prioritization of the use-cases
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* sgallagh to update the PRD draft
* sgallagh to send email requesting prioritization of the use-cases
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able to easily deploy and configure applications to supported
high-value frameworks. (Example frameworks: Ruby on Rails, Django,
Turbogears, Node.js, PHP, JBoss.)"
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manipulate and terminate large numbers of containers using a stable
and consistent interface"
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* nirik (47)
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