Fedora Docs Meeting Minutes 16SEP2103
by Pete Travis
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#fedora-meeting: Docs Project Meeting - Agenda: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs_Project_meetings
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Meeting started by randomuser at 14:00:22 UTC. The full logs are
available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-09-16/fedora_docs.20...
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Meeting summary
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* Roll Call (randomuser, 14:00:22)
* Participants are reminded to make liberal use of #info #link #help
in order to make the minutes "more better" (randomuser, 14:03:16)
* following up on action items (randomuser, 14:06:23)
* Sparks sent his mentor list email (randomuser, 14:06:36)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs_Project_mentors if you
missed it (randomuser, 14:06:55)
* Release Notes / Changes (randomuser, 14:07:31)
* WildFly *must* appear in RNs (randomuser, 14:12:02)
* ACTION: randomuser to create RN tracking bug for WildFly Change
(randomuser, 14:12:34)
* LINK:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?component=release-notes&list_id=1...
(randomuser, 14:14:58)
* LINK:
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/relnotes-content
(randomuser, 14:15:50)
* LINK:
http://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-20/f-20-docs-tasks.html
(randomuser, 14:17:11)
* Guide Status (randomuser, 14:25:33)
* ACTION: randomuser to publish alpha Technical Notes (randomuser,
14:25:57)
* if guide owners make a todo list publicly available, you are much
more likely to get community participation (randomuser, 14:31:14)
* Outstanding BZ Tickets (randomuser, 14:32:36)
* LINK: http://tinyurl.com/lbrq84 (randomuser, 14:32:44)
* open floor discussion (randomuser, 14:37:54)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Documentation_beats?rd=Docs/Beats
(randomuser, 14:38:33)
* LINK: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts/ is where you go to
register (lnovich, 14:57:23)
* LINK: http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/linuxcon-europe in
case anyone is interested (lnovich, 14:58:31)
* attend linuxcon for a chance to meet lnovich! (randomuser,
14:59:42)
Meeting ended at 15:00:06 UTC.
Action Items
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* randomuser to create RN tracking bug for WildFly Change
* randomuser to publish alpha Technical Notes
Action Items, by person
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* randomuser
* randomuser to create RN tracking bug for WildFly Change
* randomuser to publish alpha Technical Notes
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
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* randomuser (65)
* hk_ (49)
* lnovich (31)
* jjmcd (29)
* pbokoc (7)
* Capesteve (5)
* shaiton (4)
* zodbot (3)
* jreznik (3)
* threebean (2)
* iWelcome (2)
* jhradilek (2)
* yruseva (1)
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-- Pete Travis
- Fedora Docs Project Leader
- 'randomuser' on freenode
- immanetize(a)fedoraproject.org
10 years, 7 months
Fedora Chinese Meeting Minutes (2013-09-13)
by Alick Zhao
Hi all,
The IRC meeting minutes tonight are available at the link [1]. Thanks
everyone for attending the meeting.
In the meeting we talked about FZUG web portal and SFD budgets.
Please review the proposed ideas and actions.
The next IRC meeting will be held on next Friday (2013-09-20). Please
come and join the discussion if you can!
[1]:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-zh/2013-09-13/fedora-zh.2013-09-1...
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#fedora-zh Meeting
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Meeting started by cicku at 13:07:24 UTC. The full logs are available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-zh/2013-09-13/fedora-zh.2013-09-1...
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Meeting summary
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* 本次会议已经启动，本次会议主持人 Alick 没有到场，由我临时主持。
(cicku, 13:19:17)
* 自由讨论 (cicku, 13:19:51)
* IDEA: 社交网络可用来推广宣传，但不建议做成问答交流。 (alick, 13:38:52)
* 入口整合 (cicku, 13:41:01)
* LINK: http://ru.fedoracommunity.org/ (alick, 13:48:42)
* 线下活动 SFD (alick, 14:05:31)
* 9.21 清华会举办 SFD 活动 (alick, 14:06:01)
* LINK: http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2013/China/Beijing/TUNA
(alick, 14:06:15)
* LINK:
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/chinese/2013-September/013811.html
(alick, 14:06:49)
Meeting ended at 14:16:53 UTC.
Action Items
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Action Items, by person
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* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
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* cicku (62)
* alick (46)
* microcai (22)
* chenchacha (20)
* bnw (18)
* zsun (17)
* zodbot (15)
* biergaizi (15)
* zsun_lab (5)
* BadGirl (4)
* turning (1)
* isyangxin (1)
* biergaizi__ (1)
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10 years, 7 months
Re: Fedora 20 Alpha Release Readiness Meeting :: Thursday, Sep. 12, 19:00 UTC
by Jaroslav Reznik
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#fedora-meeting-1: F20 Alpha Readiness Meeting
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Meeting started by jreznik at 19:00:05 UTC. The full logs are available
at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2013-09-12/f20-alpha-re...
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Meeting summary
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* Purpose of this meeting (jreznik, 19:00:44)
* "Before each public release all of the groups participating the
development of Fedora's next release meet to make sure the release
is well coordinated." (jreznik, 19:01:00)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Release_Readiness_Meetings
(jreznik, 19:01:02)
* Current status (jreznik, 19:01:18)
* at the Go/No-Go meeting it was decided to slip one week with release
date on Sep-24, next Go/No-Go Sep-19 (jreznik, 19:01:59)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/20/Schedule
(jreznik, 19:02:38)
* Ambassadors (jreznik, 19:04:21)
* ACTION: jreznik to sync with sesivany offline for Ambassadors status
(jreznik, 19:06:29)
* Design (jreznik, 19:06:49)
* ACTION: jreznik to sync with Design team offline (jreznik,
19:10:41)
* Documentation (jreznik, 19:10:54)
* docs is where we expect to be at this point, which is basically not
much done (jreznik, 19:13:28)
* a little bit of a start on RNs and guides progress at their own pace
(jreznik, 19:13:52)
* anyone can add info to
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Documentation_beats?rd=Docs/Beats
(randomuser, 19:15:28)
* FESCo (jreznik, 19:18:53)
* FESCo is all set; gnome-software backend stuff sorted out (jreznik,
19:20:18)
* QA involvement for AppInstaller Change is not needed anymore as
default backend was switched to yum (jreznik, 19:23:21)
* Fedora Engineering Manager (jreznik, 19:32:26)
* ACTION: jreznik to sync with spot offline (jreznik, 19:34:38)
* Fedora Project Leader (jreznik, 19:36:13)
* no new updates from FPL (jreznik, 19:39:01)
* Marketing (jreznik, 19:39:07)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F20_Alpha_release_announcement
(jreznik, 19:41:37)
* LINK:
http://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-20/f-20-marketing-tasks.html
(jzb, 19:44:52)
* Infrastructure (jreznik, 19:48:22)
* infra in pretty good shape, needs things to sync out (jreznik,
19:49:28)
* Websites (jreznik, 19:49:45)
* websites are set, only needs the usual things (jreznik, 19:50:34)
* QA (jreznik, 19:51:32)
* more cloud testing coverage is needed (jreznik, 19:53:00)
* Release Engineering (jreznik, 19:53:15)
* Open floor (jreznik, 19:55:04)
Meeting ended at 20:00:04 UTC.
Action Items
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* jreznik to sync with sesivany offline for Ambassadors status
* jreznik to sync with Design team offline
* jreznik to sync with spot offline
Action Items, by person
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* jreznik
* jreznik to sync with sesivany offline for Ambassadors status
* jreznik to sync with Design team offline
* jreznik to sync with spot offline
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
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* jreznik (110)
* rbergeron (25)
* jzb (20)
* nirik (12)
* randomuser (9)
* tflink (7)
* robyduck (4)
* jwb (4)
* zodbot (3)
* dgilmore (2)
* pschindl (2)
* abadger1999 (1)
* shaiton (1)
* pwhalen (1)
* jsmith (1)
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----- Original Message -----
> Fedora 20 Alpha Release Readiness Meeting.
>
> date: 2013-09-12
> place: irc.freenode.net in #fedora-meeting-1
> time: 19:00 UTC (3 PM EDT, 12 PM PDT, 21:00 CEST)
>
> This Thursday, September 12, we will meet to make sure we are coordinated
> and ready for the Alpha release of Fedora 20 on Tuesday, September 17, 2013.
> Please note that this meeting will occur on April 12 *even if the release
> is delayed at the Go/No-Go meeting on the same day two hours earlier.*
>
> This meeting works best when we have representatives from all of the
> teams, so we'll be looking for the following people to attend or send a
> representative in their place. Let me know in case of chairs/leads changes,
> I'll update the list.
>
> Ambassadors -- Jiri Eischmann
> Design -- Máirín Duffy/Ryan Lerch
> Documentation -- Pete Travis
> FESCo -- Kevin Fenzi
> Fedora Engineering Manager -- Tom "Spot" Callaway
> Fedora Project Leader -- Robyn Bergeron
> Infrastructure -- Kevin Fenzi
> Marketing -- Ruth Suehle
> Quality -- Petr Schindler
> Release Engineering -- Dennis Gilmore
> Translation -- Noriko Mizumoto
> Websites -- Kévin Raymond
>
> Thanks
> Jaroslav
>
>
10 years, 7 months
Summary/Minutes from today's Fedora Infrastructure meeting (2013-09-12)
by Kevin Fenzi
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#fedora-meeting: Infrastructure (2013-09-12)
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Meeting started by nirik at 19:00:01 UTC. The full logs are available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-09-12/infrastructure...
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Meeting summary
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* welcome y'all (nirik, 19:00:01)
* New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks (nirik, 19:02:00)
* Applications status / discussion (nirik, 19:11:27)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1055
(nirik, 19:20:28)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Search (nirik,
19:20:34)
* pkgdb2 work moving forward nicely (nirik, 19:26:24)
* discussion about search engines again. (nirik, 19:26:32)
* mobile search of docs and ask desired. (nirik, 19:26:47)
* more badges improvements landing soon. (nirik, 19:29:38)
* more easyfix tickets needed. (nirik, 19:29:51)
* Sysadmin status / discussion (nirik, 19:30:36)
* work on aarch64 koji moving forward slowly (nirik, 19:30:52)
* new bladecenter still not online. Hopefully someday. (nirik,
19:31:18)
* will send info about another cloud we could use for our items to
list (nirik, 19:41:44)
* will mail about opening up coprs to wider use (nirik, 19:41:57)
* Upcoming Tasks/Items (nirik, 19:44:30)
* LINK: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/list/infrastructure/
(nirik, 19:44:31)
* Open Floor (nirik, 19:45:42)
Meeting ended at 19:51:05 UTC.
Action Items
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Action Items, by person
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* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
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* nirik (101)
* pingou (40)
* threebean (15)
* anshprat (15)
* echevemaster (13)
* ianweller (11)
* frankieonuonga (11)
* lnovich (11)
* smooge (7)
* zodbot (6)
* adimania (4)
* puiterwijk (4)
* abadger1999 (4)
* oddshocks (4)
* tflink (4)
* mattjones (3)
* dgilmore (2)
* EvilBob (1)
* relrod (1)
* lmacken (0)
* mdomsch (0)
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19:00:01 <nirik> #startmeeting Infrastructure (2013-09-12)
19:00:01 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Sep 12 19:00:01 2013 UTC. The chair is nirik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
19:00:01 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic.
19:00:01 <nirik> #meetingname infrastructure
19:00:01 <nirik> #topic welcome y'all
19:00:01 <nirik> #chair smooge relrod nirik abadger1999 lmacken dgilmore mdomsch threebean pingou puiterwijk
19:00:01 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'infrastructure'
19:00:01 <zodbot> Current chairs: abadger1999 dgilmore lmacken mdomsch nirik pingou puiterwijk relrod smooge threebean
19:00:08 * threebean is here
19:00:15 <puiterwijk> .hellomynameis puiterwijk
19:00:16 <zodbot> puiterwijk: puiterwijk 'Patrick Uiterwijk' <puiterwijk(a)gmail.com>
19:00:21 * pingou here
19:00:24 * adimania is here
19:00:24 <ianweller> hi
19:00:32 * echevemaster here
19:00:39 <anshprat> hi
19:00:40 * lnovich here
19:01:04 <nirik> welcome everyone.
19:01:09 <smooge> .hellomynameis bob
19:01:11 <zodbot> smooge: bob 'Sylvain Baubeau' <bob(a)glumol.com>
19:01:27 <nirik> heh. no it's not. ;)
19:01:30 <frankieonuonga> hi guys
19:01:32 <dgilmore> hola
19:01:35 <EvilBob> Mine is...
19:01:36 <frankieonuonga> greetings from Kenya
19:02:00 <nirik> #topic New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks
19:02:02 * tflink is lurking
19:02:19 <nirik> any new folks want to introduce themselves? or apprentices/new folks with questions or comments?
19:02:22 <mattjones> hello everyone, my name is Matt.
19:02:40 <mattjones> I work in monioring by day and hack Icinga by and python bynight
19:02:41 <lnovich> hi everyone - I am Laura
19:02:53 * anshprat is a new introduction , waiting
19:03:17 <nirik> mattjones / lnovich / anshprat: welcome! :)
19:03:23 <threebean> :)
19:03:24 <adimania> finished a couple of tasks around tagger puppet module. Waiting for freeze to finish.
19:03:34 <echevemaster> !
19:03:47 <nirik> echevemaster: feel free to chime in anytime...
19:03:53 * relrod checks in, but has to leave to take his mom to an appointment - will read meeting minutes later tonight.
19:04:04 <echevemaster> My name is echevemaster
19:04:27 <abadger1999> frankieonuonga: btw, I've seen you've been doing some work on copr :-)
19:04:30 <echevemaster> I want join to noc and apps team
19:04:44 <nirik> great. Welcome echevemaster too. ;)
19:04:56 <nirik> all new folks: if you haven't already seen it: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/GettingStarted
19:05:34 <echevemaster> yeah, thanks nirik
19:05:35 <nirik> question for new folks: are you more interested in sysadmin tasks or application development tasks?
19:05:45 <frankieonuonga> abadger1999: yes....can we kindly follow meeting..sorry to be so rude...I just dont want to piss guys off..I can discuss in later section or private chat.
19:06:26 * anshprat apps dev + tools . and can contribute to sysadmin as that's my day job :P
19:06:41 <abadger1999> frankieonuonga: No problems :-)
19:06:58 <echevemaster> of my part apps
19:07:12 <mattjones> I would like to help with monitoring or possibly releng
19:07:21 <echevemaster> but I can help in sysadmin task too, sure
19:07:29 <lnovich> nirik - as much as I would love to ... not a good idea for me - way too new in the sysadmin realm - I am on the docs team and was hoping to see how ready things are
19:08:04 <smooge> well we actually could use documentation help
19:08:36 <nirik> great. Some more info: anyone interested in http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure_Apprentice can see me in #fedora-admin after the meeting and we can get you started. For application devel we have http://fedoraproject.org/easyfix/ and #fedora-apps.
19:09:00 <nirik> lnovich: the publican3 stuff?
19:09:09 <lnovich> that too
19:09:13 <lnovich> and fedora docs
19:09:35 <lnovich> you know those nasty manuals that no one reads
19:09:46 <puiterwijk> (nirik, am a bit busy though, so if you need any info from me, just notice me)
19:10:31 <nirik> lnovich: manuals? who reads those. ;) In any case there is a specific docs team also that works up the content... we just run the infrastructure that serves those docs up.
19:10:39 <nirik> anyhow, welcome everyone.
19:10:48 <nirik> Do feel free to chime in with questions or comments anytime.
19:11:27 <nirik> #topic Applications status / discussion
19:11:38 <nirik> any applications news upcoming or this past week?
19:11:56 <nirik> I'll note that we have slipped for f20 alpha, so our infrastructure freeze will be going an extra week now. :(
19:11:56 <pingou> I managed to get quite a bit of work done on pkgdb2
19:12:06 <pingou> nirik: as in?
19:12:32 <lnovich> please tell me if this is OT, but i have been sitting on an idea for a new app that i wanted to know if it was warranted
19:12:50 <nirik> pingou: will now end 2013-09-25
19:12:59 <nirik> lnovich: fire away. :)
19:13:01 <threebean> lnovich: yeah :)
19:13:09 <pingou> nirik: ok, so we'll have 5 days to move nuancier-lite from stg to prod :/
19:13:22 <pingou> I'd like to deploy nuancier-lite to stg some time next week
19:13:28 <puiterwijk> pingou: I think that when alpha slips, the rest also slips, not
19:13:30 <puiterwijk> ?
19:13:31 <nirik> pingou: we could also do a freeze break sooner if it's ready
19:13:36 <lnovich> ok here goes - I want an application that runs mobile that will search both the docs database and ask fedora
19:13:44 <pingou> well, stg first, we'll see then :)
19:13:59 <pingou> puiterwijk: not necessarily the release date, but the freeze for sure
19:14:06 <threebean> lnovich: interesting
19:14:09 <pingou> lnovich: nice
19:14:30 <threebean> lnovich: have you seen the start of http://fedoraproject.org/mobile yet?
19:14:33 <lnovich> i can spec and plan it but there is no way i can design or do it
19:14:33 <nirik> lnovich: not a bad idea at all. ;) we are working on a mobile app / a html5 app
19:15:02 <lnovich> something that has an intuitive search engine as well
19:15:03 <pingou> lnovich: you might want to talk to relrod at some poitn
19:15:06 <pingou> point*
19:15:15 <abadger1999> +1 freeze break
19:15:23 <pingou> but the search engine might be limiting factor
19:15:26 <frankieonuonga> Inovich: you have as and a great community..I am sure nirik can guide you on how to present you idea to the rest of us
19:15:27 * threebean notes that relrod said he had to leave but will be back on later
19:15:29 <nirik> searching is a kinda grim issue however. All options there are pretty horrible. the best one of the lot was dpsearch which we tried a while back, but it also ran into problems.
19:15:34 <lnovich> that can use the power of your fedora account and location to deliver material in your language as well
19:15:37 <pingou> nirik: what happen to the index we were running at some point?
19:15:58 <nirik> pingou: dpsearch. It got slower and slower and slower and croaked.
19:16:05 <pingou> ok ^ ^
19:16:13 <nirik> we can try again with it, it might have been something we did wrong.
19:16:14 * ianweller jumps in
19:16:30 <frankieonuonga> nirik: I can have a look at this...I did a project on search and it was not hard.
19:16:42 <ianweller> i'm starting the datanommer time machine project so that people can get badges for all the junk they did in 2010.
19:16:45 <frankieonuonga> just needs time and patience .
19:16:47 <pingou> frankieonuonga: which indexer did you use then?
19:16:56 <pingou> ianweller: \ó/
19:17:05 <ianweller> starting with git messages, which led to fixing the post-receive hook
19:17:10 <ianweller> that's all i got
19:17:14 <pingou> ianweller: do we have a "The good old junk" badge ? :)
19:17:18 <nirik> search is kinda hard if you want to do it in a open source way, as places like google don't release their secret sauce. ;)
19:17:58 <nirik> ianweller: cool. so thats scraping mails and such to generate fedmsgs to load into datanommer or?
19:18:02 <anshprat> how much data are we talking about for indexing?
19:18:07 <frankieonuonga> pingour: I can not recall..this was sometime back..like over 4 years...I think I will have to check
19:18:18 <ianweller> nirik: it will probably scrape the repos themselves
19:18:20 <pingou> frankieonuonga: ok :)
19:18:27 <ianweller> but actually, mails might provide me more info that i need
19:18:38 <ianweller> nirik: but, essentially, yes.
19:18:54 <tflink> there's actually quite a bit of stuff around solr/lucene that might work if we were ok with java
19:18:58 <nirik> ianweller: cool... and then possibly go back more years once thats set?
19:19:07 <frankieonuonga> nirik: the only thing with search is you never go to the records themselves unless you really need to..otherwise build a chache or metadata point.
19:19:09 * nirik is not at all ok with java personally.
19:19:14 <anshprat> sphyder was good for crawling and indexing + solr could be a good match
19:19:17 <tflink> sphinx is another option
19:19:27 <tflink> but that would be more work
19:19:39 <ianweller> nirik: i'm planning on going back to the beginning of time on all repos
19:19:43 <ianweller> and getting as much info as possible
19:19:44 * threebean notes that we have a xapian index already for https://apps.fedoraproject.org/packages
19:20:11 <pingou> anshprat: solr is apache ie java iirc
19:20:25 <nirik> anyone interested in this topic please read:
19:20:28 <nirik> https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1055
19:20:34 <nirik> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Search
19:20:42 <anshprat> pingou: nirik alright
19:20:48 <frankieonuonga> we optimize after building.
19:21:09 <pingou> nirik: wasn't another issue maintainance? (as in people not ressources)
19:21:24 <frankieonuonga> would be less hell for people on other releases moving to spec
19:22:08 <nirik> there's all the regular issues of us deploying any application we are going to support long term.
19:22:28 <nirik> is it maintainable. Does it have a GROUP of people maintaining it. Is is packaged, etc
19:22:57 <ianweller> can it be packaged if it's not
19:23:13 <nirik> I'd be ok with trying dpsearch again if folks are willing... if we want to switch to another thing we would need to reevaluate it to make sure it meets all our needs.
19:24:25 <anshprat> how much was the index size in the last attempt?
19:24:32 <nirik> I don't recall.
19:24:41 <anshprat> ok
19:25:29 <nirik> any other applications news?
19:25:40 <threebean> A new release of the badges app went out earlier in the week.
19:25:50 <threebean> everything seemed to go fine. No new features in it, just optimizations.
19:25:52 * oddshocks here really late, was in transit home until now
19:26:08 <pingou> threebean: but what optimizations!
19:26:09 <nirik> threebean: it loads very nice and fast now. ;)
19:26:17 <frankieonuonga> have toleave guyss...willl read min
19:26:24 <nirik> #info pkgdb2 work moving forward nicely
19:26:32 <nirik> #info discussion about search engines again.
19:26:47 <nirik> #info mobile search of docs and ask desired.
19:26:51 <oddshocks> Next release of Badges should have a nice user diff view which I wrote the other day
19:26:54 <nirik> take care frankieonuonga
19:27:02 <oddshocks> with stats and visual badge comparison
19:27:06 <anshprat> I will be doing a blog on how to earn some of the badges :P
19:27:07 <nirik> nice.
19:27:08 <threebean> oddshocks: and its really cool
19:27:47 <threebean> oh -- a thought, I need to train someone else how to do badge stuff (or write some SOPs).
19:27:52 <nirik> So, another thing I will toss out right now:
19:27:59 <pingou> see you frankieonuonga
19:28:07 <pingou> threebean: cool!
19:28:08 <threebean> every now and then someone complains that they should have a badge and they don't have it -- there is a script to manually award it, but no SOP. I'll add that.
19:28:15 <oddshocks> anshprat: nice!
19:28:15 <nirik> are there any easyfix items in any applications folks have been working on this week? can you file a few? we need more/better easyfixes. ;)
19:28:26 <nirik> threebean: excellent. yes.
19:28:27 * anshprat volunteers for badges
19:28:31 <threebean> the other thing is that fudcon cusco is coming up and we'll need to generate a qrcode for echevemaster, there's no SOP for that either. I'll make one. :)
19:28:31 <adimania> threebean, I can give it a shot if you want
19:29:06 <threebean> adimania, anshprat: cool, let's talk after the meeting.
19:29:13 <adimania> okay.
19:29:28 <anshprat> cool
19:29:38 <nirik> #info more badges improvements landing soon.
19:29:51 <nirik> #info more easyfix tickets needed.
19:30:08 <echevemaster> threebean: feel free to ask me help for anything
19:30:29 <nirik> ok, moving on then...
19:30:35 <threebean> echevemaster: will do :)
19:30:36 <nirik> #topic Sysadmin status / discussion
19:30:41 <nirik> on the sysadmin side...
19:30:52 <nirik> #info work on aarch64 koji moving forward slowly
19:31:05 <nirik> I commented some things for this to ansible repo, but still need to debug and run more.
19:31:18 <nirik> #info new bladecenter still not online. Hopefully someday.
19:31:30 <nirik> smooge: any items from your side?
19:31:38 <smooge> PPC
19:31:44 <dgilmore> im sorry
19:31:50 <nirik> smooge: hows that going?
19:32:03 <smooge> it is moving forward slowly
19:32:29 <smooge> we can see all the disks in the system now it is a matter of installing the AIX VIOS and then install builders
19:32:41 <nirik> I'm going to file some easyfix type tickets today on various small tasks...
19:33:52 <nirik> so, another item I wanted to bring up (which I will also mail the list on soon I guess):
19:34:45 * smooge waits for it
19:35:13 <pingou> suspens...
19:35:16 <nirik> There's some folks internally to rh running a large openstack cloud. They are willing to offer us a account on it to run whatever items we would like...
19:35:27 <pingou> oh cool
19:35:29 <nirik> the dashboard and api would only be available internally
19:35:53 <pingou> dashboard for the machines?
19:35:55 <nirik> but it would have ability for external ips to serve/access the instances
19:36:10 <nirik> dashboard for openstack. To run/terminate instances, etc.
19:36:13 <pingou> ok
19:36:23 <nirik> so we could manage things in it the same way we do with our cloud via ansible.
19:36:40 <nirik> Upside: they would maintain the hw and software.
19:37:00 <nirik> Downside: it would be out of our direct control. It would be restrictive some for non rh folks.
19:37:20 <nirik> so, not sure how or if we want to use this, but it's a very nice offer.
19:37:22 <pingou> could this be interesting for copr?
19:37:45 <nirik> we could run it there yeah... but it sounds like the plan for copr is to move into koji...
19:37:59 <nirik> dunno if we wanted to try and have a wider copr with the way it is now or not.
19:38:21 <pingou> I thought it was in a second stage
19:38:26 * pingou will read back the email
19:38:46 <nirik> yeah, not clear. I guess we should ask msuchy what he thinks...
19:39:00 <pingou> based on your feedback I decided to go with current code and integrate
19:39:02 <pingou> Koji as backend for Copr later.
19:39:19 <nirik> ok, so right now it's only accessable for a small group of people right?
19:39:25 <pingou> yes
19:39:32 <pingou> whitelisted in the config file iiuc
19:39:39 <nirik> do we want to widen that? or ?
19:39:45 <pingou> I think that's the idea
19:39:51 <pingou> make a first release of copr
19:39:55 <pingou> have people start to use it
19:40:01 <pingou> integrate it into koji later on
19:40:36 <nirik> yeah, so this cloud could be useful if our cloud turns out to be too small for copr needs.
19:40:54 <nirik> right now I don't think we have capacity problems, but would depend on how much uptake coprs gets
19:41:23 <pingou> +1 :)
19:41:32 <nirik> anyhow...
19:41:44 <nirik> #info will send info about another cloud we could use for our items to list
19:41:57 <nirik> #info will mail about opening up coprs to wider use
19:42:26 <nirik> ok, any other sysadmin type stuff?
19:42:44 <nirik> oh, there was a weird mm outage the other day...
19:43:27 <smooge> any idea on it? I couldn't figure it out myself
19:43:36 <nirik> me either. it was very odd.
19:43:49 <nirik> it freaked out, I put the old pkl file in place, the next one was fine.
19:44:00 <nirik> I can only think it was some strange bug in generation...
19:44:27 <nirik> so, we will see if it ever happens again
19:44:30 <nirik> #topic Upcoming Tasks/Items
19:44:31 <nirik> https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/list/infrastructure/
19:44:40 <nirik> I need to update the calendar for the slip...
19:44:53 <nirik> anything else anyone would like to schedule or note upcoming?
19:45:42 <nirik> #topic Open Floor
19:46:03 <anshprat> qq: what is the "mm" that you were just talking about?
19:46:03 <nirik> any items for open floor? questions? comments? suggestions? favorite books or movies? ;)
19:46:28 <nirik> anshprat: mirrormanager... it's the thing that gives our mirror lists to users when they use yum. ;)
19:46:36 <anshprat> oh ok :)
19:46:42 <nirik> sorry for the short hand... good question. ;)
19:47:10 <nirik> so, user runs yum, it queries mirrormanager for a list of mirrors... but it broke and was sending an error instead. ;( We aren't sure why.
19:47:21 * pingou thought it was mailman :/
19:47:44 <echevemaster> one question, an entry in fedlocal can be catched for fedlocal for by example register a release party or ambassador events for give badges?
19:47:47 <abadger1999> yeah both have the same abbreviation
19:47:50 <echevemaster> threebean: ?
19:48:13 <nirik> fedlocal?
19:48:14 <pingou> echevemaster: fedocal isn't fedmsg ready (yet)
19:48:23 <nirik> oh, fedocal.
19:48:26 <echevemaster> ough
19:48:41 <echevemaster> fedocal
19:48:47 <echevemaster> sorry, typo
19:49:24 <nirik> no problem.
19:49:48 <nirik> ok, if nothing else will close out in a minute.
19:49:48 <anshprat> ( my present job uses skype heavily, have gotten so used to editing the typos in the msgs there!)
19:50:28 <nirik> :)
19:50:41 <anshprat> nirik: catch you in #fedora-admin for the infra-internship ..
19:51:01 <nirik> ok, thanks for coming everyone -> #fedora-admin, #fedora-apps, #fedora-noc. ;)
19:51:05 <nirik> #endmeeting
10 years, 7 months
Summary/Minutes from today's irc support sig meeting (2013-09-12)
by Kevin Fenzi
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#fedora-meeting: IRC Support SIG (2013-09-12)
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Meeting started by nirik at 18:00:37 UTC. The full logs are available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-09-12/irc-support-si...
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Meeting summary
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* init process (nirik, 18:00:37)
* Week in review (nirik, 18:02:41)
* LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Grub2
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Grub2
http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/grub-2.html
http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/ (EvilBob, 18:04:31)
* ticket #156 maltreatment and abuse of power in #fedora-social (nirik,
18:07:08)
* close ticket again and ask reporter to move on or communicate
directly for any apologies. (nirik, 18:10:09)
* ticket #159 EvilBob is an asset to the community (nirik, 18:10:17)
* kudos EvilBob (nirik, 18:11:28)
* ticket #160 Got help on #fedora (nirik, 18:11:41)
* kudos DiscordianUK (nirik, 18:12:21)
* ticket #158 Ban for no obvious reason from #Fedora (nirik, 18:13:26)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/ticket/158 (nirik,
18:13:42)
* user is advised to seek other support channels, ban will stay in
place. (nirik, 18:18:13)
* Open Floor (nirik, 18:18:23)
* Southern_Gentlem has pushed out new updated live media. See #fedora
/topic for link. (nirik, 18:19:21)
Meeting ended at 18:22:01 UTC.
Action Items
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Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
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* nirik (50)
* EvilBob (13)
* dcr226 (10)
* DiscordianUK (9)
* Sonar_Gal (6)
* zodbot (3)
* MikeGamut (3)
* underscores (2)
* frankieonuonga (2)
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18:00:37 <nirik> #startmeeting IRC Support SIG (2013-09-12)
18:00:37 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Sep 12 18:00:37 2013 UTC. The chair is nirik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
18:00:37 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic.
18:00:37 <nirik> #meetingname irc-support-sig
18:00:37 <nirik> #topic init process
18:00:37 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'irc-support-sig'
18:00:40 <nirik> yes?
18:00:52 <EvilBob> Just checking on ya...
18:00:54 <EvilBob> ;)
18:01:26 <nirik> :)
18:01:30 <nirik> just us today?
18:01:39 <dcr226> yeah, just you guys
18:01:42 <dcr226> oh wait
18:01:43 * DiscordianUK is here
18:01:56 <nirik> oh man, who let those uk people in. ;)
18:02:13 <dcr226> anarchy!
18:02:36 <nirik> quite. :) anyhow, lets go ahead then I guess...
18:02:41 <nirik> #topic Week in review
18:02:46 <frankieonuonga> I am here. :-).Greetings from NBI
18:03:04 <nirik> anything anyone has noticed from the previous week? common problems in #fedora or issues?
18:03:27 <nirik> hi frankieonuonga (do note that this is the irc support sig meeting if you were looking for infrastructure it's in an hour)
18:03:35 * Sonar_Gal
18:03:54 <DiscordianUK> Yes we're seeing lots of folk who have installed windows 8 and thereby have lost grub2
18:04:14 <nirik> bummer.
18:04:18 <frankieonuonga> nirik: thank you.. attending both
18:04:22 <nirik> the grub2 docs good to point them at?
18:04:31 <EvilBob> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Grub2 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Grub2 http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/grub-2.html http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/
18:05:00 <DiscordianUK> Those are what we point em at and the DVD rescue feature
18:05:30 * nirik nods.
18:05:33 <nirik> sounds good.
18:05:58 <nirik> anything else common show up recently? it's been very quiet overall.
18:06:25 <DiscordianUK> nah that's all I've seen
18:06:39 <nirik> ok, shall we move on to tickets?
18:07:08 <nirik> #topic ticket #156 maltreatment and abuse of power in #fedora-social
18:07:23 <nirik> so, this was discussed and closed, but reopened by the reporter.
18:07:37 <EvilBob> Close it again IMO
18:07:37 <nirik> they seem to want us to force an apology from someone to them.
18:08:13 <nirik> yeah, I don't think we can compel someone to apologize.
18:08:19 <DiscordianUK> not gonna happen
18:09:00 <nirik> ok, any other thoughts or discussion on this then?
18:09:47 <nirik> guess not.
18:09:56 <EvilBob> I was done with it weeks ago
18:10:09 <nirik> #info close ticket again and ask reporter to move on or communicate directly for any apologies.
18:10:17 <nirik> #topic ticket #159 EvilBob is an asset to the community
18:10:34 <MikeGamut> Hehehe
18:10:36 <nirik> kudos EvilBob. ;)
18:10:59 <EvilBob> User was easy to work with made it fun.
18:11:04 <Sonar_Gal> Good job EvilBob
18:11:11 <DiscordianUK> +1
18:11:28 <nirik> #info kudos EvilBob
18:11:36 <dcr226> pffft...can we have EvilBob back please not, NiceHelpfulBob
18:11:41 <nirik> #topic ticket #160 Got help on #fedora
18:12:06 <nirik> and this one is a kudos for DiscordianUK
18:12:08 <Sonar_Gal> WTG DiscordianUK
18:12:21 <nirik> #info kudos DiscordianUK
18:12:32 <DiscordianUK> Ta I was happy to help
18:12:41 <underscores> DiscordianUK: +1 :)
18:12:52 <EvilBob> DiscordianUK, and to a lesser degree ME, sorted this out. Good catch overall.
18:13:19 <nirik> yep. nice when there's a issue and the reporter is happy to provide you info to track it down.
18:13:22 <EvilBob> Now the FUN ticket...
18:13:26 <nirik> #topic ticket #158 Ban for no obvious reason from #Fedora
18:13:33 <MikeGamut> o3o
18:13:39 <Sonar_Gal> yeah the normal ticket for every release
18:13:42 <nirik> https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/ticket/158
18:13:48 <EvilBob> I am sick and tired of dealing with this every release
18:13:49 <nirik> so, my observations:
18:14:02 <DiscordianUK> I propose we make it a permanent ban
18:14:06 <nirik> We have given them many chances and removed bans in the past.
18:14:14 <nirik> There doesn't seem to be any change in behavior
18:14:30 <EvilBob> We remove the bans as per policy and have to deal with it over and over.
18:14:32 <nirik> or desire for change. Or even willingness to say that they were wrong.
18:14:56 <MikeGamut> You could just ignore the ticket and continue
18:15:04 <EvilBob> I would like to see the first ever FOREVER ban.
18:15:51 <nirik> I'm +1 to keeping a ban in place until/unless something changes... ie, they show somehow that they will stop doing the things that were getting them banned.
18:15:59 <dcr226> I've already given my opinion on this. permanently ban the user, do not overturn the ban, do not change position ever
18:16:00 <Sonar_Gal> I would have to agree. This person is banned and unbanned every release per same behavior.
18:16:03 <EvilBob> In the less than 2 years this is their third release ban
18:16:15 <nirik> right.
18:16:16 <dcr226> nirik, forget "unless something....", just ban and be done with it
18:16:40 * nirik shrugs. I'm open to revisiting, but not unless there's some good reason too (which I very much doubt will ever happen)
18:16:55 <dcr226> re-visiting is a waste of resources
18:17:00 <dcr226> has been for the last couple of years
18:17:11 <nirik> discussing revisiting now is a waste of resources. ;)
18:17:22 <dcr226> indeed...so lets put it to bed in 10 seconds, and never re-visit
18:17:23 <Sonar_Gal> +1
18:17:30 <DiscordianUK> +1
18:17:34 <nirik> any objections to closing the ticket and leaving ban in place?
18:17:40 <dcr226> permanently ban, second it, make it happen...buhbye
18:18:13 <nirik> #info user is advised to seek other support channels, ban will stay in place.
18:18:23 <nirik> #topic Open Floor
18:18:32 <nirik> anyone have anything for open floor?
18:18:48 <underscores> keep up the good work
18:18:51 <EvilBob> New updated LiveMedia from Southern_Gentlem
18:19:21 <nirik> #info Southern_Gentlem has pushed out new updated live media. See #fedora /topic for link.
18:20:33 <nirik> ok, if nothing else will close out in a minute or two
18:20:43 <nirik> does anyone want to close tickets this week? or I can later tonight...
18:21:58 <nirik> ok, thanks for coming everyone!
18:22:01 <nirik> #endmeeting
10 years, 7 months
Fedora ARM weekly Status Meeting Minutes 2013-09-11
by Paul Whalen
Thanks to those that were able to join us for the status meeting today, for those unable the minutes are posted below:
Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2013-09-11/fedora-meeti...
Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2013-09-11/fedora-meeti...
Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2013-09-11/fedora-meeti...
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#fedora-meeting-1: Fedora ARM weekly status meeting
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Meeting summary
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* 1) Kernel Status Update (pwhalen, 20:02:49)
* kernel-3.11.0-300.fc20 - trimslice PCIe fixed, regression on
vexpress (pwhalen, 20:06:39)
* 2a) Aarch64 - Status Update (pwhalen, 20:13:02)
* 2b) Aarch64 - Koji (pwhalen, 20:16:49)
* Nirik making progress on aarch64 koji server setup. May be ready
for testing this week, barring distractions (bconoboy, 21:04:33)
* 3) Fedora 20 Alpha RC1 (pwhalen, 20:22:50)
* LINK:
https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/20-Alpha-RC1/Images/armhfp/
(pwhalen, 20:22:50)
* RC1 images have been posted, please help test, add findings to the
wiki, file bugs (pwhalen, 20:23:37)
* Please test RC1 if you have a supported device (bconoboy, 20:24:45)
* 4) Weekly Status Meeting (pwhalen, 20:27:38)
* AGREED: Fedora ARM Weekly status meeting moving to a biweekly
schedule, to be re-evaluated as needed. (pwhalen, 20:39:32)
* next Fedora ARM meeting - 2013-09-25 (pwhalen, 20:40:16)
* 5) Open Floor (pwhalen, 20:40:46)
* ldconfig will be showing warnings in f20 due to binutils bug, bz to
be filed and glibc dev consulted (bconoboy, 20:49:29)
* AGREED: ARM Kernel patch submitters are asked to send the patches
they apply to the mailing list prior to checkin, including their
tested status. (bconoboy, 21:02:48)
Meeting ended at 21:07:16 UTC.
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* jwb (54)
* pwhalen (49)
* kylem (48)
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* hrw (20)
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* jcapik (8)
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10 years, 7 months
F20 Alpha Blocker Bug Review #5 Minutes
by Tim Flink
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#fedora-blocker-review: f20alpha-blocker-review-5
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Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-blocker-review/2013-09-11/f20alph...
Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-blocker-review/2013-09-11/f20alph...
Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-blocker-review/2013-09-11/f20alph...
Meeting summary
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* Roll Call (tflink, 16:01:44)
* Introduction (tflink, 16:04:31)
* Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and
nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor
the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and freeze
exception bugs. (tflink, 16:04:36)
* We'll be following the process outlined at: (tflink, 16:04:43)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting
(tflink, 16:04:44)
* The bugs up for review today are available at: (tflink, 16:04:50)
* LINK: http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current (tflink,
16:04:50)
* The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at: (tflink,
16:04:54)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_20_Alpha_Release_Criteria
(tflink, 16:04:54)
* Up for review today, we have: (tflink, 16:05:01)
* 1 Proposed Blockers (tflink, 16:05:07)
* 10 Accepted Blockers (tflink, 16:05:08)
* 6 Proposed Freeze Exceptions (tflink, 16:05:08)
* 8 Accepted Freeze Exceptions (tflink, 16:05:08)
* (1006539) SIGSEGV - ~NonSharedCharacterBreakIterator () from
/lib/libQtWebKit.so.4 (tflink, 16:08:03)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1006539 (tflink,
16:08:06)
* Proposed Blocker, qtwebkit, NEW (tflink, 16:08:09)
* AGREED: 1006539 - RejectedBlocker AcceptedFreezeException - While
not a great situation to be in, this is only on ARM and could be
fixed with an update post-release as it doesn't affect lives.
Rejected as a blocker for F20 alpha but a tested fix would be
considered past freeze. (tflink, 16:18:16)
* (1005198) IndexError: list index out of range (tflink, 16:19:28)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1005198 (tflink,
16:19:29)
* Proposed Freeze Exceptions, anaconda, MODIFIED (tflink, 16:19:29)
* AGREED: 1005198 - AcceptedFreezeException - This can cause crashes
during install under the right network conditions and while it
doesn't qualify as a release blocking bug, a tested fix would be
considered past freeze. (tflink, 16:24:47)
* (1002436) gnome-intial-setup offers “anthy†after an installation
performed in Japanese, not kkc (tflink, 16:25:01)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1002436 (tflink,
16:25:03)
* Proposed Freeze Exceptions, gnome-initial-setup, ON_QA (tflink,
16:25:06)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=948117 (tflink,
16:28:53)
* AGREED: 1002436 - AcceptedFreezeException - This is more of a polish
issue for japanese language installs but it can't be fixed with an
update and a tested fix would be considered past freeze. (tflink,
16:31:27)
* (1006375) Incorrect arches / ovirt-node has broken dependencies in the
F-20 tree (tflink, 16:32:18)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1006375 (tflink,
16:32:21)
* Proposed Freeze Exceptions, ovirt-node, ASSIGNED (tflink, 16:32:24)
* AGREED: 1006375 - AcceptedFreezeException - This doesn't affect
compose and is a request from a derivative project (ovirt-node) so
they can do a release soon. A tested updated would be considered
past freeze. (tflink, 16:35:09)
* (1005338) rdesktop missing dependency on libgssglue (tflink,
16:35:17)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1005338 (tflink,
16:35:17)
* Proposed Freeze Exceptions, rdesktop, ON_QA (tflink, 16:35:17)
* AGREED: 1005338 - AcceptedFreezeException - This is a blocking issue
(dep resolving and compose problem) for a non-release-blocking spin
(FEL) and a tested fix would be considered past freeze. (tflink,
16:37:39)
* (1006230) pretrans scriplet uses shell commands (tflink, 16:37:46)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1006230 (tflink,
16:37:46)
* Proposed Freeze Exceptions, sagemath, MODIFIED (tflink, 16:37:47)
* AGREED: 1006230 - AcceptedFreezeException - Breaks compose for a
non-release-blocking spin (scientific) and a tested fix would be
considered past freeze. (tflink, 16:42:14)
* Open Floor (tflink, 16:45:32)
* Fedora 20 alpha go/no-go is tomorrow - 2013-09-11 @ 17:00 UTC
(tflink, 16:49:15)
Meeting ended at 16:49:55 UTC.
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