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nphilipp's meeting titled "Meeting of the Modularity Working Group (once every two weeks)" ended in #fedora-meeting-3

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================================================================================= #fedora-meeting-3: Meeting of the Modularity Working Group (once every two weeks) ================================================================================= Meeting started by nils at 14:01:09 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-3/2017-09-05/modularity_... . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call (nils, 14:01:19) * Agenda (nils, 14:03:12) * Open Floor (nils, 14:06:34) * ACTION: langdon to create an etherpad for contribution to report (langdon, 14:16:35) * ACTION: langdon to follow up with mary and martin for feedback report (langdon, 14:17:50) * ACTION: langdon send report to devel@ (langdon, 14:17:57) * LINK: https://board.net/p/modularity-flock-report modularity flock report (langdon, 14:18:24) Meeting ended at 14:24:44 UTC. Action Items ------------ * langdon to create an etherpad for contribution to report * langdon to follow up with mary and martin for feedback report * langdon send report to devel@ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * langdon * langdon to create an etherpad for contribution to report * langdon to follow up with mary and martin for feedback report * langdon send report to devel@ * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * langdon (30) * nils (22) * contyk (14) * zodbot (12) * karsten_ (3) * mikedep333 (2) * tflink (1) * dgilmore (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-3/2017-09-05/modularity_... -- You received this message due to your preference settings at https://apps.fedoraproject.org/notifications/fmnmeetingminutes.id.fedorap...

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eseyman's meeting titled "Fedora-fr" ended in #fedora-meeting-1

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============================ #fedora-meeting-1: Fedora-fr ============================ Meeting started by eseyman at 18:34:16 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2017-09-04/fedora-fr.2... . Meeting summary --------------- * Association Borsalinux-fr (eseyman, 18:35:24) * les premiers chiffons sont partis (eseyman, 18:37:16) * Fedora-Fr.org (eseyman, 18:38:01) * Marketing (eseyman, 18:39:35) * Documentation (eseyman, 18:44:16) * beaucoup de travail sur la documentation fr; les volontaires sont les bienvenus (eseyman, 18:50:17) * Traduction (eseyman, 18:50:33) * Projet Fedora (eseyman, 18:51:48) * Flock vient de se terminer (eseyman, 18:52:00) * Premier samedi à la Cité des Sciences (eseyman, 18:53:53) * Discussion générales (eseyman, 18:55:36) Meeting ended at 18:59:48 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * eseyman (54) * Nicosss (14) * nobrakal (12) * zodbot (7) * misc (2) * llaumgui (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2017-09-04/fedora-fr.2... -- You received this message due to your preference settings at https://apps.fedoraproject.org/notifications/fmnmeetingminutes.id.fedorap...

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adamwill's meeting titled "F27-blocker-review" ended in #fedora-blocker-review

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========================================== #fedora-blocker-review: F27-blocker-review ========================================== Meeting started by adamw at 16:02:41 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-blocker-review/2017-09-04/f27-bl... . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call (adamw, 16:02:41) * Introduction (adamw, 16:06:19) * Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have bugs. (adamw, 16:06:20) * We'll be following the process outlined at: (adamw, 16:06:20) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting (adamw, 16:06:21) * The bugs up for review today are available at: (adamw, 16:06:21) * LINK: http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current (adamw, 16:06:23) * The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at: (adamw, 16:06:27) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_27_Alpha_Release_Criteria (adamw, 16:06:29) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_27_Beta_Release_Criteria (adamw, 16:06:31) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_27_Final_Release_Criteria (adamw, 16:06:33) * 8 Proposed Beta Blockers (adamw, 16:07:04) * 5 Accepted Beta Blockers (adamw, 16:07:04) * 3 Proposed Final Blockers (adamw, 16:07:18) * 5 Accepted Final Blockers (adamw, 16:07:19) * kparal will secretariarariariariariari(INFINITE LOOP DETECTED)alize (adamw, 16:09:01) * (1485831) shim package is not available, installation fails (adamw, 16:10:53) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1485831 (adamw, 16:10:53) * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, ON_QA (adamw, 16:10:53) * already fixed in recent composes (adamw, 16:11:01) * (1487856) UEFI installs fail to boot with anaconda-27.20-1 (due to EFI executable name mismatch) (adamw, 16:12:02) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1487856 (adamw, 16:12:02) * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, MODIFIED (adamw, 16:12:02) * AGREED: 1487856 - AcceptedBlocker (Beta) - violates Alpha "Expected installed system boot behavior" requirements for some, possibly all, UEFI installs (adamw, 16:16:24) * (1477916) Workstation boot.iso is 1.8 GB, seems to be ostree iso (adamw, 16:16:34) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1477916 (adamw, 16:16:34) * Proposed Blocker, distribution, NEW (adamw, 16:16:34) * AGREED: 1477916 - punt (delay decision) - we did not yet get around to testing this in more detail or drafting a revised criterion, so we will punt (delay) this one again and try to get it done this week (adamw, 16:31:58) * (1455561) ipa-server-install fails to obtain RA certificate from CA (CA_UNREACHABLE) (adamw, 16:32:38) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1455561 (adamw, 16:32:38) * Proposed Blocker, freeipa, POST (adamw, 16:32:39) * AGREED: 1455561 - AcceptedBlocker (Beta) - clear violation of "Release-blocking roles and the supported role configuration interfaces must meet the core functional Role Definition Requirements to the extent that supported roles can be successfully deployed..." for the release-blocking 'domain controller' role (adamw, 16:39:20) * (1487305) Raspberry Pi 3: run-initial-setup hangs (adamw, 16:40:44) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1487305 (adamw, 16:40:44) * Proposed Blocker, initial-setup, NEW (adamw, 16:40:44) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/ARM/Supported_Platforms (adamw, 16:43:21) * AGREED: 1487305 - AcceptedBlocker (Beta) - this sounds like a violation of Alpha criterion "A working mechanism to create a user account must be clearly presented during installation and/or first boot of the installed system" for Raspberry Pi 3, which is a supported ARM platform for F27. If further testing indicates it's not so clear-cut, we will revisit (adamw, 16:53:16) * (1484155) rdma-core excluding armhfp breaks many, many dep chains (adamw, 16:53:27) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1484155 (adamw, 16:53:28) * Proposed Blocker, rdma-core, NEW (adamw, 16:53:28) * this is pretty much solved now, at least to the point where it isn't blocking composes or obviously breaking critical functionality any more (adamw, 16:54:13) * we will un-propose or close the bug (adamw, 16:54:21) * (1484566) Multiple 'map' denials prevent Cockpit from working (adamw, 16:55:32) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1484566 (adamw, 16:55:33) * Proposed Blocker, selinux-policy-targeted, MODIFIED (adamw, 16:55:33) * AGREED: 1484566 - AcceptedBlocker (Beta) - clear violation of Alpha criterion "Unless explicitly specified otherwise, after system installation the Cockpit web management interface must be running and accessible on its default port (9090)" (adamw, 17:00:57) * (1484569) 'map' denials prevent PostgreSQL starting (adamw, 17:01:06) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1484569 (adamw, 17:01:06) * Proposed Blocker, selinux-policy-targeted, MODIFIED (adamw, 17:01:06) * per openQA tests of Fedora-27-20170903.n.0 , this is now fixed (adamw, 17:02:47) * bug will be closed (adamw, 17:03:24) * moving on to proposed Final blockers... (adamw, 17:05:45) * (1486002) grub2-mkconfig does not work if xen.gz is installed. (adamw, 17:05:49) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1486002 (adamw, 17:05:49) * Proposed Blocker, grub2, NEW (adamw, 17:05:49) * AGREED: 1486002 - AcceptedBlocker (Beta) - we're happy to accept Konrad's assertion that this violates the Final criterion "The release must boot successfully as Xen DomU with releases providing a functional, supported Xen Dom0 and widely used cloud providers utilizing Xen" (adamw, 17:15:58) * (1484575) Filesystem resizing during install fails since 2.1.10 (likely due to removal of unconditional filesystem check) (adamw, 17:16:08) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1484575 (adamw, 17:16:08) * Proposed Blocker, python-blivet, POST (adamw, 17:16:08) * AGREED: 1486002 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) - clear violation of Final criterion "Any installer mechanism for resizing storage volumes must correctly attempt the requested operation" (adamw, 17:24:26) * (1484908) xenconsole does want to start (adamw, 17:24:39) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1484908 (adamw, 17:24:39) * Proposed Blocker, xen, NEW (adamw, 17:24:39) * AGREED: 1484908 - punt (delay decision) - it's not clear whether this actually violates the criterion, so we will request a more detailed explanation from Konrad (adamw, 17:34:30) * Open floor (adamw, 17:35:32) * #1486002 was incorrectly agreed as AcceptedBlocker (Beta), it was in fact AcceptedBlocker (Final) (adamw, 17:35:37) Meeting ended at 17:43:32 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * adamw (190) * kparal (56) * pschindl_wfh (17) * dominicpg (15) * Southern_Gentlem (14) * zodbot (11) * mkolman (9) * sgallagh (5) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-blocker-review/2017-09-04/f27-bl... -- You received this message due to your preference settings at https://apps.fedoraproject.org/notifications/fmnmeetingminutes.id.fedorap...

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adamwill's meeting titled "Fedora QA meeting" ended in #fedora-meeting

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================================== #fedora-meeting: Fedora QA meeting ================================== Meeting started by adamw at 15:01:45 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2017-09-04/fedora-qa.201... . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call (adamw, 15:01:53) * Previous meeting follow-up (adamw, 15:09:03) * "sumantro to check in with design team and make sure wallpapers will be available in time for Beta and Final" - sumantro says he did this, and they promised they'll be in shape this time (adamw, 15:10:47) * "sumantro to send out reminder about LxQT test day" - he did that, and the event has concluded (adamw, 15:11:23) * "sumantro to contact i18n team to make sure their regular test days are being planned, and atomic/cloud team" - he definitely checked in with g11n team and they're on the same page, not sure about atomic/cloud (adamw, 15:11:50) * Fedora 27 status (adamw, 15:18:53) * Beta freeze is at 00:00 UTC tonight (00:00 on 2017-09-05) (adamw, 15:19:26) * currently composes are succeeding, but with one major bug - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1487856 prevents all UEFI installs from booting properly - and several other blocker bugs (e.g. FreeIPA issues) (adamw, 15:20:32) * further testing beyond openQA may have been hampered by the frequent compose failures and broken composes till now (adamw, 15:21:57) * for now, the planned schedule still holds, which means we need to do a lot of testing to get up to the Beta criteria by Beta go/no-go on 2017-09-14 (adamw, 15:22:43) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1483667 (dominicpg, 15:31:31) * Kernel rebase testing plan (adamw, 15:41:18) * new upstream kernel releases are pushed into stable Fedora releases, at present. This can be a source of regressions (adamw, 15:42:10) * Plan is to run a Test Day event for each new kernel release to try and identify and fix problems before they get out into the stable releases (adamw, 15:42:42) * sumantro will be co-ordinating this with the kernel team, the Test Day will involve running the kernel test suite (see https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/KernelTestingInitiative ) and generally checking for issues (adamw, 15:43:33) * Activity meeting plan (adamw, 15:47:26) * sumantro says that many of the newer folks he's mentoring see this meeting as more of an administrative/discussion meeting, and don't really want to jump in with practical questions etc. (adamw, 15:48:07) * so he proposes having a regular meeting (I think the idea was monthly) focused on practical testing activity, selecting specific things that need testing at the time and focusing on those (adamw, 15:49:02) * Open floor (adamw, 15:53:41) * Heroes of Fedora 26 is not done yet, sumantro should be working on it soon (adamw, 15:56:14) Meeting ended at 16:01:07 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * adamw (93) * dominicpg (19) * tenk (14) * kparal (12) * zodbot (5) * alciregi (5) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2017-09-04/fedora-qa.201... -- You received this message due to your preference settings at https://apps.fedoraproject.org/notifications/fmnmeetingminutes.id.fedorap...

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andreasn1's meeting titled "Cockpit weekly meeting 2017-09-04" ended in #cockpit

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=========================================== #cockpit: Cockpit weekly meeting 2017-09-04 =========================================== Meeting started by andreasn1 at 13:04:15 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/cockpit/2017-09-04/cockpit_weekly_meeti... . Meeting summary --------------- * Agenda (andreasn1, 13:07:05) * LINK: https://github.com/cockpit-project/cockpit/wiki/Feature:-NFS-client (andreasn1, 13:11:38) * LINK: https://github.com/cockpit-project/cockpit/pull/7580 (andreasn1, 13:11:49) * Out-of-tree cockpit Apps (andreasn1, 13:18:58) * LINK: https://github.com/cockpit-project/starter-kit (dperpeet, 13:22:07) Meeting ended at 13:34:34 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * mvollmer (30) * pitti (16) * andreasn1 (13) * zodbot (7) * dperpeet (5) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/cockpit/2017-09-04/cockpit_weekly_meeti... -- You received this message due to your preference settings at https://apps.fedoraproject.org/notifications/fmnmeetingminutes.id.fedorap...

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echevemaster's meeting titled "Fedora Latam Ambassadors meeting 2017-09-02" ended in #fedora-meeting-2

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============================================================== #fedora-meeting-2: Fedora Latam Ambassadors meeting 2017-09-02 ============================================================== Meeting started by echevemaster at 23:01:14 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2017-09-02/fedora-lata... . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call (echevemaster, 23:01:34) * Proposal for change the group meeting date/time. (echevemaster, 23:06:43) * LINK: https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issue/415 (echevemaster, 23:07:00) * Budget planning for Sep-Nov Quarter (echevemaster, 23:14:26) * LINK: https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issue/421 (echevemaster, 23:14:40) * Sessions to improve Ambassadors skills (echevemaster, 23:29:02) * LINK: https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issue/423 (echevemaster, 23:29:31) * OpenFloor (echevemaster, 23:30:33) Meeting ended at 23:37:03 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * echevemaster (64) * chinosoliard (39) * bt0 (13) * zodbot (11) * douglax (8) * JuanCarlosLin (3) * potty (2) * danniel (2) * JuanCarlosLin2 (1) * srkraken (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2017-09-02/fedora-lata... -- You received this message due to your preference settings at https://apps.fedoraproject.org/notifications/fmnmeetingminutes.id.fedorap...

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jforbes's meeting titled "FESCO (2017-09-01)" ended in #fedora-meeting

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=================================== #fedora-meeting: FESCO (2017-09-01) =================================== Meeting started by jforbes at 16:02:15 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2017-09-01/fesco.2017-09... . Meeting summary --------------- * init process (jforbes, 16:02:16) * #1761 Update of "Fedora Release Live Cycle" and "Changes / Policy" (jforbes, 16:06:01) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1761 (jforbes, 16:06:02) * maxamillion forgot to update tickets from last week, meeting minutes here: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams/fesco/fesco.2017-08-25-16.00.html .... issues will be updated (maxamillion, 16:06:40) * AGREED: Update of "Fedora Release Live Cycle" and "Changes / Policy" is approved (+8,0,-0) (jforbes, 16:16:58) * #1765 Proposed Fedora 28 schedule (jforbes, 16:17:13) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1765 (jforbes, 16:17:13) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1767 (jforbes, 16:19:01) * #1767 F28 Self Contained Changes (jforbes, 16:27:34) * AGREED: defrer until either a) we know the toolchain is ready (ie, bodhi is using pungi) or b) after jan 30th (+8,0,-0) (jforbes, 16:40:22) * #1768 fesco input for Outreachy projects (jforbes, 16:40:38) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1768 (jforbes, 16:40:39) * AGREED: FESCo will give input for Outreachy projects (+8,0,-0) (jforbes, 16:44:12) * jsmith or sgallagh allah will represent FESCo (tyll, 16:44:47) * #1769 F28 System Wide Change: Switch libidn-using applications to IDNA2008 (jforbes, 16:44:53) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1769 (jforbes, 16:44:54) * AGREED: F28 System Wide Change: Switch libidn-using applications to IDNA2008 is approved (+8,0,-0) (jforbes, 16:47:18) * #1766 Is ImageMagick 7 appropriate for Fedora 27 (and even 28)? (jforbes, 16:47:30) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1766 (jforbes, 16:47:31) * proposal is to make imagemagick 7 a system wide change for F28 and not have anything on default install or blocking F27 media require imagemagick 7 (tyll, 16:50:59) * AGREED: sgallagh's proposal in ticket is accepted (+8,0,-0) (jforbes, 16:52:56) * Next Week's chair (jforbes, 16:53:11) * nirik will chair next weeks meeting (jforbes, 16:55:20) * open floor (jforbes, 16:55:36) * next weeks meeting will be at the same time as current since we do not have whenisgood results (jforbes, 16:56:23) Meeting ended at 17:11:11 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * jforbes (55) * maxamillion (44) * nirik (38) * bowlofeggs (33) * dgilmore (25) * zodbot (24) * ignatenkobrain (23) * adamw (22) * jsmith (20) * kalev (18) * mattdm (16) * tyll (14) * puiterwijk (5) * langdon (5) * sgallagh (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2017-09-01/fesco.2017-09... -- You received this message due to your preference settings at https://apps.fedoraproject.org/notifications/fmnmeetingminutes.id.fedorap...

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jforbes's meeting titled "FESCO (2017-09-01)" ended in #fedora-releng

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================================== #fedora-releng: FESCO (2017-09-01) ================================== Meeting started by jforbes at 16:00:47 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-releng/2017-09-01/fesco.2017-09-... . Meeting summary --------------- * init process (jforbes, 16:00:53) Meeting ended at 16:01:15 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * jforbes (6) * zodbot (5) * jsmith (1) * sgallagh (0) * nirik (0) * kalev (0) * Rathann (0) * jwb (0) * maxamillion (0) * dgilmore (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-releng/2017-09-01/fesco.2017-09-... -- You received this message due to your preference settings at https://apps.fedoraproject.org/notifications/fmnmeetingminutes.id.fedorap...

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