aday's meeting titled "Workstation WG (2020-02-04)" ended in
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Notification time stamped 2020-02-07 13:27:20 UTC
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#fedora-meeting-2: Workstation WG (2020-02-04)
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Meeting started by aday at 13:26:31 UTC. The full logs are available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2020-02-07/workstation...
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Meeting summary
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* rollcall (aday, 13:26:32)
* present: cmurf, tpopela, jens, kalev, ngompa, owen, mcatanzaro,
langdon (aday, 13:26:34)
* regrets: aday (aday, 13:26:36)
* missing: mclasen (aday, 13:26:38)
* earlyoom and resource management discussion (aday, 13:26:42)
* Background is https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/119 (aday,
13:26:44)
* We meet with Facebook's Tejun Heo and Dan Schatzberg to discuss
oomd. They leave. (aday, 13:26:46)
* Neal recommends we proceed with earlyoom for F32. Future proposals
involving oomd/systemd are interesting but still to far in the
future for us to wait for. (aday, 13:26:48)
* Tomas not certain oomd will work well without machine-specific
configuration. Michael thinks it should work. (aday, 13:26:51)
* Owen and Michael suggest we should experiment with setting MemoryLow
configuration for mutter. (aday, 13:26:54)
* Chris wants to proceed for F32, but worries earlyoom isn't
aggressive enough. Most users will reach for the power button before
(RAM + swap) reaches 90% full and earlyoom kicks in. (aday,
13:26:57)
* Owen suggests this requires mention in the release notes, especially
noting that applications will be killed early for users without
swap. (aday, 13:27:02)
* Michael again proposes F33 instead of F32, but OK with implementing
it right away either way. (F32 branches next week.) (aday,
13:27:05)
* Michael concerned about how to remove earlyoomd in a future distro
update if we want to switch to something else. Neal proposes
multiple solutions. (aday, 13:27:08)
* AGREED: Proceed with earlyoom for F32. (aday, 13:27:11)
* ACTION: Chris to change Fedora presets and update comps. Ensure
earlyoom gets installed during distro upgrades with Supplements:
fedora-release-workstation. (aday, 13:27:13)
* The WG discusses upgrades, and appropriate use of rawhide to test
changes. (aday, 13:27:16)
Meeting ended at 13:27:20 UTC.
Action Items
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* Chris to change Fedora presets and update comps. Ensure earlyoom gets
installed during distro upgrades with Supplements:
fedora-release-workstation.
Action Items, by person
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* **UNASSIGNED**
* Chris to change Fedora presets and update comps. Ensure earlyoom
gets installed during distro upgrades with Supplements:
fedora-release-workstation.
People Present (lines said)
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* aday (25)
* zodbot (7)
* cmurf (0)
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