Am Fr., 13. Jan. 2023 um 18:09 Uhr schrieb Justin W. Flory (he/him) <jwf@redhat.com>:
Hi folks, I hope you are settled in after the new year! I am repeating this message to both the Fedora Discussion tag and the Mindshare mailing list.

I want to pitch that we fully adopt our Fedora Discussion tag as the preferred place for asynchronous discussion by the Mindshare Committee. The mailing list would be closed and retired, similar to the CommOps, Council-discuss, and Badges mailing lists. I would like to make this change on Monday, 23 January, for the next term of Mindshare.

I believe this change will help us be models for other groups and teams in the community who are also looking at moving from mailing lists to Discussion. As stewards of the non-engineering part of Fedora, we should be bold and take the step fully into Fedora Discussion.

Any thoughts on making this transition after Monday, 23 January?

1) The Fedora Mindshare mailing list is very low traffic anyhow, so this does not seem to make a big impact on the users of the mailing list:
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/mindshare@lists.fedoraproject.org/2023/1/
2) Regarding being models for other groups: I think the main value would be in model the transition from mailing list to discourse for other teams with more active mailing lists and more diverse members, for example by providing best practices for other teams to follow which include early notifications, FAQ for affected users, maybe office hours to help answering questions or concerns, providing training for discourse (mayb through short Youtube videos) etc (not sure what is really effective). Maybe this already exists from the transitions of the other teams. Maybe this needs to be created after gathering feedback from the other teams.
3) I am not a big fan of mailing lists and I believe that a discussion software like discourse can bring additional value. As a power user and long-time Fedora contributor, I still find the discourse badges regarding trust levels and theirs descriptions disconcerting since they assume that the Fedora community is only the discourse community, for example:
https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/badges/3/forum-level-3
"This badge is granted when you reach trust level 3. Thanks for being a regular part of our community over a period of months. ..." - And some very basic features are granted only  by the activity in the forum ignoring whether someone was elected in Fedora, trusted as packager, ... - I understand the technical reasons why it started like this and why discourse does it by default. The current way does not seem to be a good fit for Fedora, though. At least for mindshare it should be made sure that all members have a appropriate trust level in discourse.

Cheers
Till
 
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