Re: [Fedora-music-list] music Digest, Vol 48, Issue 7
by William Blackburn
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> Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2011 01:52:19 +0000
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> 1. Re: Jack is not Coorperating (Onyeibo Oku)
> 2. Re: Jack is not Coorperating (Brendan Jones)
> 3. guitar reverb (William Blackburn)
> 4. Re: guitar reverb (Orcan Ogetbil)
> 5. JACK in F15 (William Blackburn)
> 6. Re: JACK in F15 (Brendan Jones)
> 7. Re: JACK in F15 (Orcan Ogetbil)
> 8. Re: JACK in F15 (Christopher Antila)
> 9. Re: JACK in F15 (Brendan Jones)
> 10. Re: JACK in F15 (Orcan Ogetbil)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 14:26:53 +0100
> From: Onyeibo Oku <twohotis(a)gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Fedora-music-list] Jack is not Coorperating
> To: Brendan Jones <brendan.jones.it(a)gmail.com>
> Cc: music(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
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> On Thu, 2011-04-14 at 06:16 +1000, Brendan Jones wrote:
> >
> > On 04/14/2011 12:46 AM, Onyeibo Oku wrote:
> > > While that is happening, efforts to run applications that depend on Jack
> > > has been a nightmare. How do you work with Sound Apps on Fedora without
> > > Jack? Can someone help us out? It just won't run ... the crash is
> > > perfect, 100% guaranteed on a Lovelock (F15) Machine.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > Onyeibo
> > >
> > Hi. Maybe it is this bug
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=684392 ? THere are a few
> > workarounds suggested which may work for you.
> >
> > regards,
> >
> > Brendan
>
> THANKS A LOT!
>
> The patch in the bug report got jack running. Any idea when the rebuilt
> binutils will be available in the fedora repos?
>
> Regards
> Onyeibo
>
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 23:35:09 +1000
> From: Brendan Jones <brendan.jones.it(a)gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Fedora-music-list] Jack is not Coorperating
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> On 04/16/2011 11:26 PM, Onyeibo Oku wrote:
> > On Thu, 2011-04-14 at 06:16 +1000, Brendan Jones wrote:
> > The patch in the bug report got jack running. Any idea when the rebuilt
> > binutils will be available in the fedora repos?
> >
>
> Whilst the root of the problem has been narrowed down to recent changes
> in the linker, the binutils maintainers still have to work out what
> exactly is going wrong.
>
> Brendan
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 16:12:47 +0000
> From: William Blackburn <bill_-(a)hotmail.com>
> Subject: [Fedora-music-list] guitar reverb
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> What is the best GUI program for a guitar reverb effect. I really like the linuxDSP effect, but it is no longer free.
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> From: Orcan Ogetbil <oget.fedora(a)gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Fedora-music-list] guitar reverb
> To: William Blackburn <bill_-(a)hotmail.com>
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> On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 12:12 PM, William Blackburn wrote:
> > What is the best GUI program for a guitar reverb effect. ?I really like the
> > linuxDSP effect, but it is no longer free.
> >
>
> Depends on what you want to do. We have plenty of ladspa and lv2
> plugins that can be used by any software that support ladspa/lv2.
>
> Ladspa and lv2 plugins contain many effects including (but not limited
> to echo/reverb). You can make some research via
>
> $ yum search ladspa
> $ yum search lv2
> $ yum search reverb
> $ yum search chorus
>
> etc. Note that these may not list everything we have. Another good
> (yet incomplete) resource is our wiki page and the links therein:
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Audio_Creation
>
> Moreover, there are also independent software that contain such
> effects, such as guitarix, creox, ...
>
> Cheers,
> Orcan
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> Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 23:16:54 +0000
> From: William Blackburn <bill_-(a)hotmail.com>
> Subject: [Fedora-music-list] JACK in F15
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> I am having trouble starting JACK in Fedora 15. I really want to try out some ladspa effects in JACK-rack. Can someone help me configure it properly?
> Maybe someone can write a how-to? i'll write it if you tell me how to set it up. a short explanation should do me
>
> thanks,
> Bill Blackburn
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> Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2011 09:42:47 +1000
> From: Brendan Jones <brendan.jones.it(a)gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Fedora-music-list] JACK in F15
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> On 04/17/2011 09:16 AM, William Blackburn wrote:
> > Maybe someone can write a how-to? i'll write it if you tell me how to
> > set it up. a short explanation should do me
>
> Hi Bill
>
> there is some documentation here:
> /usr/share/doc/jack-audio-connection-kit-1.9.7/README.Fedora
>
> There is currently an issue which causes jack to segfault.
> there are some workarounds listed here:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=684392
>
> Let me know if you need more info
>
> regards,
>
> Brendan
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 20:32:09 -0400
> From: Orcan Ogetbil <oget.fedora(a)gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Fedora-music-list] JACK in F15
> To: Brendan Jones <brendan.jones.it(a)gmail.com>
> Cc: music(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
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> On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 7:42 PM, Brendan Jones wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 04/17/2011 09:16 AM, William Blackburn wrote:
> >> Maybe someone can write a how-to? i'll write it if you tell me how to
> >> set it up. a short explanation should do me
> >
> > Hi Bill
> >
> > there is some documentation here:
> > /usr/share/doc/jack-audio-connection-kit-1.9.7/README.Fedora
> >
>
> Hi all,
>
> If you folks think that the above README.Fedora documentation file
> needs an update, now it is a good time to suggest changes.
>
> Especially, the pulseaudio part needs a hand. I don't (want to) know
> how to make jack work nicely with pulseaudio, but if you have some
> guideline, I won't mind including in the README.Fedora file.
>
> > There is currently an issue which causes jack to segfault.
> > there are some workarounds listed here:
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=684392
> >
>
> Thanks Brendan, I really appreciate your effort in that bug. Please
> let me know if you want to comaintain jack and/or ffado in Fedora.
>
> Cheers,
> Orcan
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 21:00:09 -0400
> From: Christopher Antila <crantila(a)fedoraproject.org>
> Subject: Re: [Fedora-music-list] JACK in F15
> To: music(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
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> Hi:
>
> I'm not clear what's going on here. Is this a bug that will be fixed? Is it a
> change for Fedora 15 and all future releases?
>
> If it's a change, then it should be in the Release Notes and the official Fedora
> documentation for JACK.[0] If somebody can help me figure out what to do (that
> is, Jack in F15 is different from JACK in F14), then I will make my best effort
> to have it included in both places for the official release.
>
> Otherwise, I will have time to figure it out only after the release of F15.
> Although I can withhold the Musicians' Guide until it's updated, the Release
> Notes would be published without this information. I'm not sure if it's
> possible to update the Release Notes after publication, unless it's about
> something that would make your computer explode, so I'd really appreciate if
> somebody would help out now.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Christopher.
>
> [0] http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/14/html/Musicians_Guide/sect-
> Musicians_Guide-Using_JACK.html
>
> > On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 7:42 PM, Brendan Jones wrote:
> > > On 04/17/2011 09:16 AM, William Blackburn wrote:
> > >> Maybe someone can write a how-to? i'll write it if you tell me how to
> > >> set it up. a short explanation should do me
> > >
> > > Hi Bill
> > >
> > > there is some documentation here:
> > > /usr/share/doc/jack-audio-connection-kit-1.9.7/README.Fedora
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > If you folks think that the above README.Fedora documentation file
> > needs an update, now it is a good time to suggest changes.
> >
> > Especially, the pulseaudio part needs a hand. I don't (want to) know
> > how to make jack work nicely with pulseaudio, but if you have some
> > guideline, I won't mind including in the README.Fedora file.
> >
> > > There is currently an issue which causes jack to segfault.
> > > there are some workarounds listed here:
> > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=684392
> >
> > Thanks Brendan, I really appreciate your effort in that bug. Please
> > let me know if you want to comaintain jack and/or ffado in Fedora.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Orcan
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> > music(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
> > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/music
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> Message: 9
> Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2011 11:26:28 +1000
> From: Brendan Jones <brendan.jones.it(a)gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Fedora-music-list] JACK in F15
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> On 04/17/2011 11:00 AM, Christopher Antila wrote:
> > I'm not clear what's going on here. Is this a bug that will be fixed? Is it a
> > change for Fedora 15 and all future releases?
> >
> The error lies in the linker/toolchain that was used to build libffado.
> I'm not sure exactly what the implications are here, but do know that
> the scope of the problem is far wider than just jack/libffado.
>
> I'll wait until the binutils maintainer completes his investigation,
> before commenting on what the final outcome will be, but I'm sure we can
> come up with a solution prior to F15 release.
>
> Even if F15 shipped with the current linker we could patch libffado to
> use a different one (ld.gold for example).
>
> For those users who are not using firewire interfaces simply moving
> /deleting /usr/lib64/jack/jack_firewire.so / or
> /usr/lib/jack/jack_firewire.so will enable jackd to start.
>
> In the meantime, I will try and prepare a working libffado package for
> testing
>
> Stay tuned.
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 10
> Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 21:51:58 -0400
> From: Orcan Ogetbil <oget.fedora(a)gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Fedora-music-list] JACK in F15
> To: Christopher Antila <crantila(a)fedoraproject.org>
> Cc: music(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
> Message-ID: <BANLkTimepV_rjKhA4QNf8OusuDU+GO4GJA(a)mail.gmail.com>
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> On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 9:00 PM, Christopher Antila wrote:
> > Hi:
> >
> > I'm not clear what's going on here. Is this a bug that will be fixed? Is it a
> > change for Fedora 15 and all future releases?
> >
>
> It is a bug, possibly in the compiler/linker tool chain. But we are
> not sure yet. People are working on it.
>
> > If it's a change, then it should be in the Release Notes and the official Fedora
> > documentation for JACK.[0]
>
> The pulseaudio part of this documentation is old too. There is no such
> group as pulse-rt anymore. There hasn't been one for a while.
>
> > If somebody can help me figure out what to do (that
> > is, Jack in F15 is different from JACK in F14), then I will make my best effort
> > to have it included in both places for the official release.
> >
> > Otherwise, I will have time to figure it out only after the release of F15.
> > Although I can withhold the Musicians' Guide until it's updated, the Release
> > Notes would be published without this information. I'm not sure if it's
> > possible to update the Release Notes after publication, unless it's about
> > something that would make your computer explode, so I'd really appreciate if
> > somebody would help out now.
> >
>
> I don't expect any changes from the user side. I have been using the
> updated jack on F-14 for a couple weeks. Everything seems the same.
> Thank you for helping out. I'll let you know if there is any potential
> changes in the future.
>
> Cheers,
> Orcan
>
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> End of music Digest, Vol 48, Issue 7> Hi Bill> > there is some documentation here: > /usr/share/doc/jack-audio-connection-kit-1.9.7/README.Fedora> > There is currently an issue which causes jack to segfault.> there are some workarounds listed here: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=684392> > Let me know if you need more info> > regards,> > Brendan> >Brendan,
I decided to fallback and install Fedora 14. Thanks for your help and I will still help write up the README if it needs an edit.I hope I posted correctly. :)
Thanks,
Bill
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13 years
Jack is not Coorperating
by Onyeibo Oku
Hello People,
Fedora Sound SIG is making progress (poco a poco). Some nice musicians
have made suggestions and uploaded sample files (some interesting
ideas). You can add to the fun! Hang out with us at #fedora-sound and
don't catch the updates here : https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Sound
While that is happening, efforts to run applications that depend on Jack
has been a nightmare. How do you work with Sound Apps on Fedora without
Jack? Can someone help us out? It just won't run ... the crash is
perfect, 100% guaranteed on a Lovelock (F15) Machine.
Regards
Onyeibo
13 years
jack-audio-connection-kit-1.9.7 built for Fedora 15
by Orcan Ogetbil
Hi all,
I just updated jack to 1.9.7 on Fedora 15. You can grab the source and
binary RPMs from
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=237324
Note that you can't use the binary F-15 RPMs directly on F-14. If you
would like me to update jack on Fedora 14, please file a request at
bugzilla.redhat.com
Fedora 15 is planned to be released late May.
Fernando, I did not include the portnames patch this time as the old
patch did not apply cleanly, and I didn't want to regenerate the patch
as I am not very familiar with the code. When you get a chance, could
you send me an updated patch so I can include in the Fedora package?
Thanks!
Orcan
13 years
Announcing the Fedora Sound SIG
by Onyeibo Oku
Good Morning Music and Audio People!
I'd like to bring to your notice an announcement made yesterday at
Fedora Planet. [QUOTE]:
Today we announce the Fedora Sound SIG. Our goal is to create free (as
in freedom) Sound themes and make them available in the Fedora repositories.
Fedora has a huge selection of Software, but lacks of a good selection
of sound themes. We want to fix that issue, by creating free,
high-quality sound themes, and make them easily installable in Fedora.
All themes will be created only with free software that is available on
Fedora.
We need help!
We need help from anyone who can help us achieving this goal. Musicians,
Packagers, Developers, Contributors with good ideas, testers, and more.
Join now to #fedora-sound at irc.freenode.net! [/QUOTE]
So far, we've looked at some free sounds at creative commons and we get
the impression our goal will be easier to achieve with those who
actually create sound. We look forward to seeing you guys at
#fedora-sound.
Regards
Onyeibo
13 years
Fedora Sound SIG
by Elad Alfassa
Hello Fedora audio creation SIG.
We at the Fedora Sound SIG[1] would like to cooperate with you, as our
goal is to create sound themes for Fedora using the tools that you are
packaging.
Is it okay with you that we will use this mailing list for the Fedora
sound SIG? If not, that's understandable, and we will ask
infrastructure to set up a separate list for us.
[1] http://www.doom.co.il/en/?p=47
--
-Elad.
13 years
