1:09 p.m.
Hiya... some of my (Planet CCRMA) users are still having problems when
trying to install older kernels with yum. Does anyone know how to tell
yum to pretty please install a kernel even if it is version-older than
the newest already installed?
I have a set of packages (planetccrma-core-*) that "Requires:" the
proper kernel, alsa, rtirq script, etc, etc. Yum refuses to install an
older kernel.
I thought that doing this in /etc/yum.conf would fix it:
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# pkgpolicy=newest
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But it does not...
-- Fernando
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On Sun, 2006-07-16 at 10:46 -0700, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote:
Last suggestion was to clean up the internal yum state - but I never
got
feedback on whether it worked or not. See "man yum" and go
to the
"clean
options" section. I would try "yum clean metadata"
first (this will
reload all the metadata from the servers which could take a while on
slow links). Please let us know if any of this helps...
I tried a yum clean all, and even that didn't seem to work. It seem
whatever setting causes the kernels to be treated differently than other
packages isn't either being checked, or isn't present on the files.
Let me know if you require more information.
Thanks!
1:37 p.m.
On Sun, 2006-07-16 at 11:09 -0700, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote:
Hiya... some of my (Planet CCRMA) users are still having problems
when
trying to install older kernels with yum. Does anyone know how to tell
yum to pretty please install a kernel even if it is version-older than
the newest already installed?
I have a set of packages (planetccrma-core-*) that "Requires:" the
proper kernel, alsa, rtirq script, etc, etc. Yum refuses to install an
older kernel.
Not sure how you're doing right now, but seems like you could just name
your kernel package "kernel-planetccrma" so it doesn't conflict with the
stock kernels version-wise, and Provide: kernel-%{version} or whatever.
Check into whatever the "kernel-smp" packages are doing.
7:37 p.m.
On Sun, 2006-07-16 at 13:37 -0500, Callum Lerwick wrote:
On Sun, 2006-07-16 at 11:09 -0700, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote:
> Hiya... some of my (Planet CCRMA) users are still having problems when
> trying to install older kernels with yum. Does anyone know how to tell
> yum to pretty please install a kernel even if it is version-older than
> the newest already installed?
>
> I have a set of packages (planetccrma-core-*) that "Requires:" the
> proper kernel, alsa, rtirq script, etc, etc. Yum refuses to install an
> older kernel.
Not sure how you're doing right now, but seems like you could just name
your kernel package "kernel-planetccrma" so it doesn't conflict with the
stock kernels version-wise, and Provide: kernel-%{version} or whatever.
Check into whatever the "kernel-smp" packages are doing.
My kernels (patched with Ingo's realtime preemption patch) are just
named "kernel" and "kernel-smp" like the rest of the kernel packages -
I
don't think the name can even be changed, there are many things that
happen because of the name (I learned that a long time ago). For
example, this is a recent realtime kernel:
a) kernel-2.6.16-1.2080.13.rrt.rhfc5.ccrma
And one Fedora kernel could be:
b) kernel-2.6.16-1.2111_FC5
which has a release that is "newer" than the Planet CCRMA kernel.
My "meta package" requires the first kernel above, ie: to satisfy its
dependencies that particular kernel should be installed. That should not
be a problem as there can be more than one kernel installed at the same
time. This is the relevant line in the meta pacakges:
# rpm -q --requires planetccrma-core
kernel-i686 = 2.6.16-1.2080.13.rdt.rhfc5.ccrma
and kernel a) obviously provides it (amongst other things):
# rpm -q --provides kernel-2.6.16-1.2080.13.rrt.rhfc5.ccrma
kernel-i686 = 2.6.16-1.2080.13.rrt.rhfc5.ccrma
If kernel b) is already installed and you want to install kernel a)
through the meta package dependencies yum complains that b) is newer
than a) and refuses to install the older version.
This was also a problem in apt (when I first started using apt) but it
was easily fixed with an apt configuration option in /etc/apt.conf:
Install-Options { "--oldpackage" };
I thought that commenting out this yum configuration option would help:
pkgpolicy=newest
But it does not...
-- Fernando
11:48 p.m.
Fernando Lopez-Lezcano schrieb:
On Sun, 2006-07-16 at 13:37 -0500, Callum Lerwick wrote:
> On Sun, 2006-07-16 at 11:09 -0700, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote:
>> Hiya... some of my (Planet CCRMA) users are still having problems when
>> trying to install older kernels with yum. Does anyone know how to tell
>> yum to pretty please install a kernel even if it is version-older than
>> the newest already installed?
>> I have a set of packages (planetccrma-core-*) that "Requires:" the
>> proper kernel, alsa, rtirq script, etc, etc. Yum refuses to install an
>> older kernel.
> Not sure how you're doing right now, but seems like you could just name
> your kernel package "kernel-planetccrma" so it doesn't conflict with
the
> stock kernels version-wise, and Provide: kernel-%{version} or whatever.
> Check into whatever the "kernel-smp" packages are doing.
My kernels (patched with Ingo's realtime preemption patch) are just
named "kernel" and "kernel-smp" like the rest of the kernel packages
- I
don't think the name can even be changed, there are many things that
happen because of the name (I learned that a long time ago). [...]
That's true, but the name IMHO should be changed nevertheless to avoid
confusion and problems like the one that was described in the first
message in this thread.
CU
thl
3:11 p.m.
On Mon, 2006-07-17 at 06:48 +0200, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
Fernando Lopez-Lezcano schrieb:
> On Sun, 2006-07-16 at 13:37 -0500, Callum Lerwick wrote:
>> On Sun, 2006-07-16 at 11:09 -0700, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote:
>>> Hiya... some of my (Planet CCRMA) users are still having problems when
>>> trying to install older kernels with yum. Does anyone know how to tell
>>> yum to pretty please install a kernel even if it is version-older than
>>> the newest already installed?
>>> I have a set of packages (planetccrma-core-*) that "Requires:"
the
>>> proper kernel, alsa, rtirq script, etc, etc. Yum refuses to install an
>>> older kernel.
>> Not sure how you're doing right now, but seems like you could just name
>> your kernel package "kernel-planetccrma" so it doesn't conflict
with the
>> stock kernels version-wise, and Provide: kernel-%{version} or whatever.
>> Check into whatever the "kernel-smp" packages are doing.
> My kernels (patched with Ingo's realtime preemption patch) are just
> named "kernel" and "kernel-smp" like the rest of the kernel
packages - I
> don't think the name can even be changed, there are many things that
> happen because of the name (I learned that a long time ago). [...]
That's true, but the name IMHO should be changed nevertheless to avoid
confusion and problems like the one that was described in the first
message in this thread.
I don't quite agree. It is just another kernel.
Anyway, I can't change the name (other things _will_ break, or at least
that was what happened a long time ago when I foolishly tried for other
reasons), so that is a no no for now.
There is nothing in rpm that disallows installing several kernels at the
same time. I can just go ahead and rpm -ivh it and everybody's happy.
Yum is becoming too smart and does not have (AFAIK) any way to make it
dumber when you need it[*] - so at this point it is not allowing me to
do something perfectly legal. Bad yum :-)
-- Fernando
[*] obviously nobody has needed to do this so far. But that does not
make the need any less real or valid.
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