From: music-request(a)lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: music Digest, Vol 48, Issue 7 To: music(a)lists.fedoraproject.org Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2011 01:52:19 +0000 Send music mailing list submissions to music(a)lists.fedoraproject.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/music or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to music-request(a)lists.fedoraproject.org You can reach the person managing the list at music-owner(a)lists.fedoraproject.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of music digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Jack is not Coorperating (Onyeibo Oku) 2. Re: Jack is not Coorperating (Brendan Jones) 3. guitar reverb (William Blackburn) 4. Re: guitar reverb (Orcan Ogetbil) 5. JACK in F15 (William Blackburn) 6. Re: JACK in F15 (Brendan Jones) 7. Re: JACK in F15 (Orcan Ogetbil) 8. Re: JACK in F15 (Christopher Antila) 9. Re: JACK in F15 (Brendan Jones) 10. Re: JACK in F15 (Orcan Ogetbil) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 14:26:53 +0100 From: Onyeibo Oku <twohotis(a)gmail.com&gt; Subject: Re: [Fedora-music-list] Jack is not Coorperating To: Brendan Jones <brendan.jones.it(a)gmail.com&gt; Cc: music(a)lists.fedoraproject.org Message-ID: <1302960424.14091.1.camel@f15rc> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Thu, 2011-04-14 at 06:16 +1000, Brendan Jones wrote: > > On 04/14/2011 12:46 AM, Onyeibo Oku wrote: > > While that is happening, efforts to run applications that depend on Jack > > has been a nightmare. How do you work with Sound Apps on Fedora without > > Jack? Can someone help us out? It just won't run ... the crash is > > perfect, 100% guaranteed on a Lovelock (F15) Machine. > > > > Regards > > Onyeibo > > > Hi. Maybe it is this bug > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=684392 ? THere are a few > workarounds suggested which may work for you. > > regards, > > Brendan THANKS A LOT! The patch in the bug report got jack running. Any idea when the rebuilt binutils will be available in the fedora repos? Regards Onyeibo ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 23:35:09 +1000 From: Brendan Jones <brendan.jones.it(a)gmail.com&gt; Subject: Re: [Fedora-music-list] Jack is not Coorperating To: music(a)lists.fedoraproject.org Message-ID: <4DA99B0D.3080300(a)gmail.com&gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed On 04/16/2011 11:26 PM, Onyeibo Oku wrote: > On Thu, 2011-04-14 at 06:16 +1000, Brendan Jones wrote: > The patch in the bug report got jack running. Any idea when the rebuilt > binutils will be available in the fedora repos? > Whilst the root of the problem has been narrowed down to recent changes in the linker, the binutils maintainers still have to work out what exactly is going wrong. Brendan ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 16:12:47 +0000 From: William Blackburn <bill_-(a)hotmail.com&gt; Subject: [Fedora-music-list] guitar reverb To: <music(a)lists.fedoraproject.org&gt; Message-ID: <SNT133-w33F1C7A7ED92B1022C390FB6AF0(a)phx.gbl&gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" What is the best GUI program for a guitar reverb effect. I really like the linuxDSP effect, but it is no longer free. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/music/attachments/20110416/94fdf... ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 13:15:26 -0400 From: Orcan Ogetbil <oget.fedora(a)gmail.com&gt; Subject: Re: [Fedora-music-list] guitar reverb To: William Blackburn <bill_-(a)hotmail.com&gt; Cc: music(a)lists.fedoraproject.org Message-ID: <BANLkTi==APbE3NG9y6VoVEeNJguBYWTFuQ(a)mail.gmail.com&gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 12:12 PM, William Blackburn wrote: > What is the best GUI program for a guitar reverb effect. ?I really like the > linuxDSP effect, but it is no longer free. > Depends on what you want to do. We have plenty of ladspa and lv2 plugins that can be used by any software that support ladspa/lv2. Ladspa and lv2 plugins contain many effects including (but not limited to echo/reverb). You can make some research via $ yum search ladspa $ yum search lv2 $ yum search reverb $ yum search chorus etc. Note that these may not list everything we have. Another good (yet incomplete) resource is our wiki page and the links therein: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Audio_Creation Moreover, there are also independent software that contain such effects, such as guitarix, creox, ... Cheers, Orcan ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 23:16:54 +0000 From: William Blackburn <bill_-(a)hotmail.com&gt; Subject: [Fedora-music-list] JACK in F15 To: <music(a)lists.fedoraproject.org&gt; Message-ID: <SNT133-w5195E6D0A733B0711B6511B6AF0(a)phx.gbl&gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I am having trouble starting JACK in Fedora 15. I really want to try out some ladspa effects in JACK-rack. Can someone help me configure it properly? 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URL: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/music/attachments/20110416/ad6e1... ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2011 09:42:47 +1000 From: Brendan Jones <brendan.jones.it(a)gmail.com&gt; Subject: Re: [Fedora-music-list] JACK in F15 To: music(a)lists.fedoraproject.org Message-ID: <4DAA2977.20005(a)gmail.com&gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 04/17/2011 09:16 AM, William Blackburn wrote: > Maybe someone can write a how-to? i'll write it if you tell me how to > set it up. a short explanation should do me Hi Bill there is some documentation here: /usr/share/doc/jack-audio-connection-kit-1.9.7/README.Fedora There is currently an issue which causes jack to segfault. there are some workarounds listed here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=684392 Let me know if you need more info regards, Brendan ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 20:32:09 -0400 From: Orcan Ogetbil <oget.fedora(a)gmail.com&gt; Subject: Re: [Fedora-music-list] JACK in F15 To: Brendan Jones <brendan.jones.it(a)gmail.com&gt; Cc: music(a)lists.fedoraproject.org Message-ID: <BANLkTimDCkbXd+nmqHz3HxZ5qLEnuKNK2g(a)mail.gmail.com&gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 7:42 PM, Brendan Jones wrote: > > > On 04/17/2011 09:16 AM, William Blackburn wrote: >> Maybe someone can write a how-to? i'll write it if you tell me how to >> set it up. a short explanation should do me > > Hi Bill > > there is some documentation here: > /usr/share/doc/jack-audio-connection-kit-1.9.7/README.Fedora > Hi all, If you folks think that the above README.Fedora documentation file needs an update, now it is a good time to suggest changes. Especially, the pulseaudio part needs a hand. I don't (want to) know how to make jack work nicely with pulseaudio, but if you have some guideline, I won't mind including in the README.Fedora file. > There is currently an issue which causes jack to segfault. > there are some workarounds listed here: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=684392 > Thanks Brendan, I really appreciate your effort in that bug. Please let me know if you want to comaintain jack and/or ffado in Fedora. Cheers, Orcan ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 21:00:09 -0400 From: Christopher Antila <crantila(a)fedoraproject.org&gt; Subject: Re: [Fedora-music-list] JACK in F15 To: music(a)lists.fedoraproject.org Message-ID: <201104162100.14252.crantila(a)fedoraproject.org&gt; Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi: I'm not clear what's going on here. Is this a bug that will be fixed? Is it a change for Fedora 15 and all future releases? If it's a change, then it should be in the Release Notes and the official Fedora documentation for JACK.[0] If somebody can help me figure out what to do (that is, Jack in F15 is different from JACK in F14), then I will make my best effort to have it included in both places for the official release. Otherwise, I will have time to figure it out only after the release of F15. Although I can withhold the Musicians' Guide until it's updated, the Release Notes would be published without this information. I'm not sure if it's possible to update the Release Notes after publication, unless it's about something that would make your computer explode, so I'd really appreciate if somebody would help out now. Thanks, Christopher. [0] http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/14/html/Musicians_Guide/sect- Musicians_Guide-Using_JACK.html > On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 7:42 PM, Brendan Jones wrote: > > On 04/17/2011 09:16 AM, William Blackburn wrote: > >> Maybe someone can write a how-to? i'll write it if you tell me how to > >> set it up. a short explanation should do me > > > > Hi Bill > > > > there is some documentation here: > > /usr/share/doc/jack-audio-connection-kit-1.9.7/README.Fedora > > Hi all, > > If you folks think that the above README.Fedora documentation file > needs an update, now it is a good time to suggest changes. > > Especially, the pulseaudio part needs a hand. I don't (want to) know > how to make jack work nicely with pulseaudio, but if you have some > guideline, I won't mind including in the README.Fedora file. > > > There is currently an issue which causes jack to segfault. > > there are some workarounds listed here: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=684392 > > Thanks Brendan, I really appreciate your effort in that bug. Please > let me know if you want to comaintain jack and/or ffado in Fedora. > > Cheers, > Orcan > _______________________________________________ > music mailing list > music(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/music ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2011 11:26:28 +1000 From: Brendan Jones <brendan.jones.it(a)gmail.com&gt; Subject: Re: [Fedora-music-list] JACK in F15 To: music(a)lists.fedoraproject.org Message-ID: <4DAA41C4.2050200(a)gmail.com&gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 04/17/2011 11:00 AM, Christopher Antila wrote: > I'm not clear what's going on here. Is this a bug that will be fixed? Is it a > change for Fedora 15 and all future releases? > The error lies in the linker/toolchain that was used to build libffado. I'm not sure exactly what the implications are here, but do know that the scope of the problem is far wider than just jack/libffado. I'll wait until the binutils maintainer completes his investigation, before commenting on what the final outcome will be, but I'm sure we can come up with a solution prior to F15 release. Even if F15 shipped with the current linker we could patch libffado to use a different one (ld.gold for example). For those users who are not using firewire interfaces simply moving /deleting /usr/lib64/jack/jack_firewire.so / or /usr/lib/jack/jack_firewire.so will enable jackd to start. In the meantime, I will try and prepare a working libffado package for testing Stay tuned. ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 21:51:58 -0400 From: Orcan Ogetbil <oget.fedora(a)gmail.com&gt; Subject: Re: [Fedora-music-list] JACK in F15 To: Christopher Antila <crantila(a)fedoraproject.org&gt; Cc: music(a)lists.fedoraproject.org Message-ID: <BANLkTimepV_rjKhA4QNf8OusuDU+GO4GJA(a)mail.gmail.com&gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 9:00 PM, Christopher Antila wrote: > Hi: > > I'm not clear what's going on here. Is this a bug that will be fixed? Is it a > change for Fedora 15 and all future releases? > It is a bug, possibly in the compiler/linker tool chain. But we are not sure yet. People are working on it. > If it's a change, then it should be in the Release Notes and the official Fedora > documentation for JACK.[0] The pulseaudio part of this documentation is old too. There is no such group as pulse-rt anymore. There hasn't been one for a while. > If somebody can help me figure out what to do (that > is, Jack in F15 is different from JACK in F14), then I will make my best effort > to have it included in both places for the official release. > > Otherwise, I will have time to figure it out only after the release of F15. > Although I can withhold the Musicians' Guide until it's updated, the Release > Notes would be published without this information. I'm not sure if it's > possible to update the Release Notes after publication, unless it's about > something that would make your computer explode, so I'd really appreciate if > somebody would help out now. > I don't expect any changes from the user side. I have been using the updated jack on F-14 for a couple weeks. Everything seems the same. Thank you for helping out. I'll let you know if there is any potential changes in the future. Cheers, Orcan ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ music mailing list music(a)lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/music End of music Digest, Vol 48, Issue 7> Hi Bill> > there is some documentation here: > /usr/share/doc/jack-audio-connection-kit-1.9.7/README.Fedora> > There is currently an issue which causes jack to segfault.> there are some workarounds listed here: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=684392> > Let me know if you need more info> > regards,> > Brendan> >Brendan,