I needed another soundcard anyways so i'll be getting a $10.00 dynex sc5.1 and i'll be plugging this in: Yamaha DB50XG/DB60XG Sound Daughter Board SW1000XG Item# 200458972918$19.80 USD1$19.80 USD Shipping and handling$13.00 USD Insurance - not offered---- Total$32.80 USD Payment$32.80 USD FYI, here's all my notes on the subject: Yamaha XG re: qxgedit-0.1.0-2.rncbc.suse112.x86_64 which seems to be a linux version of http://www.freedownloadscenter.com/Multimedia_and_Graphics/MIDI_Players_a... XG300 2.0 Analogue-style editor for Yamaha DB50XG, SW60XG and MU10. Uses the 'hidden' Yamaha QS300 mode to give youtwice the power of the basic XG voice. 2xOscillators,2xLFO's, 6xEnvelope Generators per voice. Saves andloads QS300 presets, effects banks and sequences. Lookslike a Prophet V synth. Includes Arpeggiators andAnalogue Step Sequencers. Saves and loads MIDI and SYXfiles. Real wood finish and custom knobs http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamaha_XG The DB50XG and SW60XG are discontinued, but the SW1000XG (also discontinued) has been popular in the professional music industry, and many of Yamaha's amateur and professional keyboards implement either XG or a subset, known as "XGlite". http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/may98/articles/audiotrix.html • Mediatrix cleverly integrates a DB60XG card (effectively a DB50XG with added analogue input), with its own full-duplex recording circuitry, into the Audiotrix card. Users of the 3DXG can thus have those Yamaha sounds from day one • I doubt if I need to make any comment on the XG MIDI sounds -- I've been using these on my DB50XG for two years now, and have yet to hear a soundcard chipset that sounds better. • It's a clever idea to incorporate the Yamaha DB60XG into the design of the 3DXG, and this gives very good on-board synth sounds, as well as an excellent three-tier effects system. The overall sound quality is good, and in line with the deluxe consumer description that I used at the start of this review. If you want a soundcard with great synth sounds and excellent effects, and want to use it for occasional games, this would be a good but slightly expensive choice. If you want a card primarily for music, you may find yourself disabling many of the same features that endear it to games players -- the FM synth, joystick port, and so on, which leaves you with an XG synth and stereo WAV recording and playback through the XG effects. This, in essence, is what the forthcoming Yamaha SW1000XG will do (albeit with more effects and WAV channels, plus higher sound quality, but at a significantly higher price). http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/257013-28-sw1000xg-windows-compatibility • Get your SW1000XG out of the dust pile or out of the loft becuase the darn thing works under windows 7. ----------------- http://www.linuxquestions.org/hcl/showproduct.php/product/909/sl/y yamaha YMF-724F ds-1 /sbin/lspci output: 00:13.0 Multimedia audio controller: Yamaha Corporation YMF-724F [DS-1 Audio Controller] (rev 03) Yamaha XWave is based on ymf 754 http://ixbtlabs.com/articles/aopenaw754/ AOpen AW754 sound card • Let's, however, come back to our YMF754. Where is it better than its predecessor in terms of electricity? Like the 744, it supports the IEC958 standard of the digital interface SPDIF. Unlike the YMF744B (DS-1S) chip, the 754 supports the direct record from the SPDIF In, and at the same time it doesn't take SPDIF In resources when the Zoomed Video Port is operating. Besides, Yamaha states a considerable difference in power consumption. It turned out that the 754 consumes much less energy even at usual operations, not taking the Standby mode. • The DS-1E supports PC/PCI and D-DMA protocols for DMA emulation in the style of the SB Pro on the PCI bus. Besides, it supports an old system of interruptions that use the ISA bus and the Serialized IRQ protocol. It ensures support for all games in DOS and says that the chips was worked out 3-4 year ago when it was actual. But as for me, it wouldn't play under DOS; you'd better do it in Windows, in DOS-window, with a more pleasantly sounding of the integrated in the card XG MIDI-synthesizer (if you have a General MIDI option in the game). Supported by kernel -- note 754 is latest. http://www.calel.org/pci-devices/alsa-device-list.html#Yamaha Yamaha Corporation YMF-724 1073:0004 ymfpci DS1L Audio 1073:000a ymfpci YMF-740C [DS-1L Audio Controller] 1073:000c ymfpci YMF-724F [DS-1 Audio Controller] 1073:000d ymfpci YMF-744B [DS-1S Audio Controller] 1073:0010 ymfpci YMF-754 [DS-1E Audio Controller] 1073:0012 ymfpci http://linux-sxs.org/multimedia/yamdsg.html ALSA for the YAMAHA-DSXG http://www.anime.net/~goemon/alsa/ Yamaha Waveforce 192XG YMF724 ymfpci Yamaha Waveforce 192 Digital YMF724 ymfpci Yamaha YMF724 ymfpci Yamaha YMF740 ymfpci Yamaha YMF744 ymfpci Yamaha YMF754 ymfpci http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Module-ymfpci http://cgi.ebay.com/Aopen-COBRA-AW744-AW754-PCI-4-channel-sound-card-/280... US $8.50 + $2.00 shipping. 4 744's avail for 0.98 and $4.99 ship http://cgi.ebay.com/AOpen-Cobra-PCI-Sound-Card-Yamaha-XG-AW744B-R-chipset... http://cgi.ebay.com/AOpen-Cobra-PCI-Sound-Card-Yamaha-XG-AW744B-R-chipset... http://cgi.ebay.com/AOpen-Cobra-PCI-Sound-Card-Yamaha-XG-AW744B-R-chipset... http://cgi.ebay.com/AOpen-Cobra-PCI-Sound-Card-Yamaha-XG-AW744B-R-chipset... These use a different "maestro" driver for ESS... they have SPDIF but who knows how XGish the chip is.... (or did they license XG to ESS ??) http://cgi.ebay.com/YAMAHA-XG-XWAVE-ESS-ES1989S-A571-T70-PCI-Sound-Card-/... YAMAHA XG XWAVE $14.95 + $4.95 used http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Yamaha-XG-Xwave-ESS-Allegro-A571-T20-PCI-Sound-Ca... $9.95 + $9.99 shipping BRAND NEW BULK Yamaha XG PCI Sound Card. ESS ES1989S PCI Sound Card w/ Game Port A571-T70 FCC ID LWHA571-T2 External Connections: Line IN MIC in Audio OUT SPDIF OUT MIDI / GAME http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Yamaha-Xwave-XG-QS3000A-Based-PCI-PC-Sound-Ca... No spdif --------------------------------------- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamaha_YMF7xx The XG synthesizer on the YMF7x4 series features not only basic XG System Level 1, but also some of the MU-50 additions, and can reproduce most musical data previously programmed for the popular DB50XG daughterboard. YMF7x4 cards shipped with a 2 MB wavetable bank of 8-bit samples by default, which must be loaded into system RAM during booting. Neither the resolution nor content of the wavetable bank are hardware limitations. A user can load his own banks using third-party tools to further improve sound quality or completely change the set of instruments. As with most other XG standard tone generators, YMF7x4 can switch itself into TG300B mode, which is an emulation of the Roland GS standard that allows adequate playback of musical data bearing the GS logo. YMF744 and its variants, which feature four-channel output. The final and most advanced version of the YMF7x4 chipset series is the YMF754, which also features standard four-channel output, but adds lower power consumption features. The most feature-rich soundcards based on the YMF754 are the Labway XWave 6000 (which has an additional hardware chip to emulate 5.1 surround sound and a six-channel amplifier providing 2W per channel) and the Hoontech SoundTrack i-Phone Digital XG (which features an additional connector for an included speech-optimized headset microphone as well as support circuitry that limits feedback in telephony applications). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XG_(midi) • In 1994, Yamaha released the first XG-based product: Yamaha MU80 Tone Generator. In 1995, Yamaha released the first XG-based product for PC users, the DB50XG daughterboard, a Creative Wave Blaster competitor. In 1996, Yamaha released MU10 external module, basically a DB50XG in a case and later the SW60XG ISA PC card. Coupled with their tone-generator, both devices included an on-board 4MB sound bank chip of sampled instruments and became highly desirable among MIDI fans due to their crisp, high-quality sound[citation needed]. These devices feature an effects processing system with individual stereo reverb and chorus effects on any of 16 channels, and the ability to route any of the channels through an additional 'insertion' effect, and even guitar amp and wah-wah pedal simulations. Yamaha's in-house song-writers often utilized these tools to demonstrate the power of the XG format, notably recreating Jimi Hendrix leads complete with feedback, flamenco guitar with distinct pick/hammered notes and finger slides, growling saxophones, and even a very convincing sitar[citation needed]. • Many notebooks include the Yamaha YMF7xx chipset which has a scaled-down XG-compatible MIDI synth. Available only in Japan also is a DB60XG, effectively a DB50XG with an analog input[1]. ---------------------------------------- Alternate idea -- get an MU10: Housed in a little grey box (smaller than a video) that belies the sonic power within, the MU-10 module (latterly also termed 'Waveforce') is an external MIDI module that is inexpensive yet powerful (16 part multitimbral, 32 note poly) and user-friendly. It appeals to the beginner and more advanced user alike, and is good for a range of musical styles though it can excel at house/techno/garage if used with the XG Gold shareware editing program (see below). They are no longer produced - if you see one, buy it (though don�t mistake either the MU-5 or MU-15 for the MU-10). The MU-10 can act as a high quality synthesizer, a MIDI soundcard (one MIDI in, one MIDI out), and an effects unit. Connects to a PC via a �To Host� lead (supplied), but can be played without any PC connection using a suitable MIDI keyboard. There are two 1/4" jack analog inputs (each with a gain slider) which can route external inputs through the effects busses for digital processing - great for guitar and vocals. Nine volt DC operation - use batteries or, better, a mains adaptor. The MU-10 is arguably the best of three closely related models because of its portability, ease of use as effects unit, and slightly lower noise floor than the other two (perhaps because it is an external unit). Priced at about UK pounds 200 when first released. ----------------------------------- Or get a db50xg w/o a soundcard and hook it up (== MU 10) http://www.yamaha.com/yamahavgn/CDA/ContentDetail/ModelSeriesDetail.html?... although it'll be easier to get a Dynex 5.1 sound card which uses the VIA envy24 and has waveblaster header for the card... http://atari.nvg.org/db50xg/ Waveblaster pin-layout 2,4,6,8,10,12,16,18,20,22,24,26: Ground 3: MIDI in The MIDI-input is TTL, so you'll need some circuitry to convert the standard MIDI current loop to TTL. 14,1,7,11,15: Not connected 5,9,13: +5V 17: +12V 21: -12V 19: Audio out, right 23: Audio out, left The audio-outputs are standard line-level, but can't deliver enough juice for headphones. 25: Reset Reset is active low. http://midibox.org/forums/index.php?/topic/8127-put-waveblaster-daughter-... http://vogons.zetafleet.com/viewtopic.php?t=16207 http://www.megatrade.ru/English/db50faq.html Almost all XG products, including the MU80, MU50, DB50XG, and SW60XG, have a TG300B mode. A GS reset message automatically activates this mode, allowing playback of GS music data. Niels http://nielsmayer.com

On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 6:07 PM, Niels Mayer <nielsmayer(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: Success!! :: From http://old.nabble.com/Suzuki-QC1-Qchord-Digital-Songcard-Guitar-td2849586... ........................... I got it all working! Here's my first recording (1 minute long done in qtractor) of the Yamaha db60xg waveterminal daughterboard synth, playing through- hosted-on, and recorded-by the dynex dx-sc51. MIDI for the db60xg is driven by the Suzuki Qchord and "Rhythm Style QCard QRC-1" #16 "Salsa" cartridge, randomly chorded by me: http://nielsmayer.com/DjColtraneRexx-qchord-salsa.flac ... basically, the qchord is a fancy chorded arpeggiator with a quantizing strumplate... I now can record directly from the db60xg's analog output (it appears as the "Video In" analog input in alsamixer. To get it working, I had to use alsamixergui to set the soundcard's capture input to "Video In" and not the default microphone). I then tell jackd to output to hw:ICE1724,1 (SPDIF) which connects my main monitors. Then I can either record off the capture input, or select monitor to send the db60xg sound, mixed with PCM, over SPDIF to the mains. Now if I could only figure out how to get Jack to open the Dynex card's analog (hw:ICE1724,0) and digital (hw:ICE1724,1) parts simultaneously, i'd also have a separate headphone monitor in addition to the working spdif out. Unfortunately, the snd-ice1724 module for this card doesn't recognize it as a 6 channel card, providing only a 2in/2out with separate SPDIF ( see http://old.nabble.com/Re:-perhaps-why-some-of-us-have-more-trouble-w--pul... ) ........................... Some additional notes I took on using&recording from the db60xg with dynex dx-sc5: ........................... ** Working jackd/qjackctl configuration -- allows for SPDIF output and normal 2 channels of capture fed by db60xg (when capture input setup as "Video") -- ~/.jackdrc == "/usr/bin/jackd -dalsa -r48000 -p256 -n2 -D -Chw:6,0 -Phw:6,1 -Xseq -zs -H -M" -- note that in "setup" Interface set to "(default)" and "Input Device" set to "hw:6,0" ; "Output Device" set to "hw:6,1" (to get SPDIF out); use "hw:6,0" for analog/headphones. -- for some reason, this fails when setting symbolic name, e.g. "-Chw:ICE1724,0 -Phw:ICE1724,1" -- therefore jack setup is sensitive to ALSA moving cards around. ** in alsamixer (F4-record) make sure input set to "Video" == db60xg and "capture" is selected Item:"L R Capture" in red must appear above "Video" input. Cursor to there and hit 'space' to select. Item: "L R Capture" in red must ALSO appear above "Capture" input, otherwise all capture is muted. This normally sets "mic boost" but should be set to 0db. (to select, cursor to "Capture" and hit 'space'). ** in alsamixer (F3-playback): Item: "Multi Track Rate Locking" set to [Off] Item: "Multi Track Rate Reset" set to [Off] Item: "SPDIF" (left): set to "[H/W In 0]" to monitor db60xg ; set to "PCM" for normal/DAW usage. Item: "SPDIF 1" (right): set to "[H/W In 1]" to monitor db60xg ; set to "PCM" for normal/DAW usage. Item: "Video" set to 74 == 0db. Note that this just controls the mix-level of the db60xg in the "digital mixer" that feeds the analog output and headphone monitor (like 'PCM' adjusts level of PCM into the mixer.). ** IMPORTANT: Both for monitoring through SPDIF as well as capture/recording, careful to prevent clipping of this analog "Video" input: -- the level of the db60xg must be adjusted in qxgedit's Master volume. The "Video" input just adjusts the mix level after the input. -- Many public XG midi files are very loud and require total volume set to 80-100 not 127. (this results in a loudness blip at the end if the track uses master volume to fade, and the level was set below where the fadelevel started...). -- use "qarecord --jack --rate 48000" to check levels and set via 'xgedit' system/effect->Master->Volume ........................... -- Niels http://nielsmayer.com PS: TODO: figuring out how the db60xg's analog input is routed through the dynex sc51 and how to access and route it: http://www.studio4all.de/htmle/main96.html