10:20 a.m.
Can the list maintainer please remove the [fedora-music-list] junk
from the mailing list subject line? It's 2006 now, and I believe
the majority of people subscribing to mailing lists have long since
realized how to filter mail using X-BeenThere, or whatever other
preferred methods.
There is no good reason to plaster the list name in the subject of
every single message. All other Fedora and Red Hat lists consistently
do not have this junk in the subject line. What's more is that
if there are people who /do/ prefer to have that junk there, they
can add it back to their own messages locally using procmail,
and sed or formail.
Thanks in advance.
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Mike A. Harris * Open Source Advocate * http://mharris.ca
Proud Canadian.
11:16 a.m.
On Tue, 2006-05-23 at 11:20 -0400, Mike A. Harris wrote:
Can the list maintainer please remove the [fedora-music-list] junk
from the mailing list subject line? It's 2006 now, and I believe
the majority of people subscribing to mailing lists have long since
realized how to filter mail using X-BeenThere, or whatever other
preferred methods.
There is no good reason to plaster the list name in the subject of
every single message. All other Fedora and Red Hat lists consistently
do not have this junk in the subject line. What's more is that
if there are people who /do/ prefer to have that junk there, they
can add it back to their own messages locally using procmail,
and sed or formail.
Hear hear, etc. I had to create this page to point to your post
forever, because it is a succinct answer to something that bugs me.
There are lists I cannot read because of the subject line clutter.
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MailinglistGuidelines/SubjectLineJunk
That said, there is an appropriate fedora-music-list-admin(a)redhat.com
address you could send this to, and for that I award you with:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PostIsOffTopic
- Karsten, pedant and laughing about it ;-)
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8:09 a.m.
Karsten Wade wrote:
On Tue, 2006-05-23 at 11:20 -0400, Mike A. Harris wrote:
> Can the list maintainer please remove the [fedora-music-list] junk
> from the mailing list subject line? It's 2006 now, and I believe
> the majority of people subscribing to mailing lists have long since
> realized how to filter mail using X-BeenThere, or whatever other
> preferred methods.
>
> There is no good reason to plaster the list name in the subject of
> every single message. All other Fedora and Red Hat lists consistently
> do not have this junk in the subject line. What's more is that
> if there are people who /do/ prefer to have that junk there, they
> can add it back to their own messages locally using procmail,
> and sed or formail.
Hear hear, etc. I had to create this page to point to your post
forever, because it is a succinct answer to something that bugs me.
There are lists I cannot read because of the subject line clutter.
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MailinglistGuidelines/SubjectLineJunk
Heh, thanks. ;)
That said, there is an appropriate
fedora-music-list-admin(a)redhat.com
address you could send this to, and for that I award you with:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PostIsOffTopic
Indeed.. I have to admit that I was rather reactionary at first,
rather than taking the time to go to the list page and directly
email the list admin (of whom I had no idea).
I should have known better, because it makes no difference what
list it is, who is hosting it, or what the standards are for
every single other list hosted on the same site (ie: every single
Fedora and Red Hat list for example) - there is always at least
one person who will argue vehemently for including the stupid
subject clutter because "they like it" or whatever. I hang my
head in shame for being the catalyst for the invocation of that
nonsense.
Anyhow, I've emailed the real list owner now privately, to
politely request the list be reconfigured to have the same
configuration as the rest of the Fedora and Red Hat lists
for consistency.
As an added bonus for those who prefer the ugly list name in
subject crap - you can add it back to any mailing list you
are on with procmail:
:0:
* X-BeenThere: fedora-music-list(a)redhat.com
* Subject: \/
| sed -e "[fedora-music-list] $MATCH"
fedora-music-list
Enjoy.
- Karsten, pedant and laughing about it ;-)
:)
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Proud Canadian.
9:53 a.m.
Karsten,
I should have known better, because it makes no difference what
list it is, who is hosting it, or what the standards are for
every single other list hosted on the same site (ie: every single
Fedora and Red Hat list for example) - there is always at least
one person who will argue vehemently for including the stupid
subject clutter because "they like it" or whatever. I hang my
head in shame for being the catalyst for the invocation of that
nonsense.
I like it.
As an added bonus for those who prefer the ugly list name in
subject crap - you can add it back to any mailing list you
are on with procmail:
:0:
* X-BeenThere: fedora-music-list(a)redhat.com
* Subject: \/
| sed -e "[fedora-music-list] $MATCH"
fedora-music-list
Why should I have to do that?
Leave it as it is.
Phil.
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Sydney NSW 2001
Australia
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Fax: +61:(0)2-8221-9599
E-mail: phil(a)pricom.com.au
2:24 p.m.
On Tue, 2006-05-23 at 11:20 -0400, Mike A. Harris wrote:
Can the list maintainer please remove the [fedora-music-list] junk
from the mailing list subject line? It's 2006 now, and I believe
the majority of people subscribing to mailing lists have long since
realized how to filter mail using X-BeenThere, or whatever other
preferred methods.
I like it. (And no, I'm not filtering based on it) I'm on a bazillion
mailing lists, and its not really worth the trouble to me to set up a
filter for the low traffic ones.
Mailing lists are an ugly fossil of a kludge anyway.
Sadly there's nothing that's widely standard that can quite take the
place. NNTP is close, but the lack of server side user state is a big
downer IMHO.
IMAP could almost do it, it has server side user state, but its only
designed for reading, not posting. Also its a hideous, ambiguously
defined, difficult to parse protocol according to the Citadel
developers. Sadly, its the only thing widely supported by most mail
clients.
Citadel could do it. http://www.citadel.org/ I was working on packaging
it a while back. My original intent for becoming an Extras contributor
was to submit Citadel... Its on this summer's to do list. :)
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