Re: [IAEP] Announcing Fedora Sugar Spin!
by Greg DeKoenigsberg
On Wed, 12 Nov 2008, Bill Kerr wrote:
> Meaning what, exactly? Can you be more specific?
>
> Well, it's meant to be possible for collaboration to work out of the
> box. This did not happen with Wolfgang's Live CD converted to USB keys.
>
> Someone reported earlier on this list that collaboration did work from
> USB keys on a Ubuntu network
>
> from morgan collett: "Link local presence should "just work", but I've
> never used the LiveCD images."
>
> At any rate Morgan asked us for some files and after they were sent
> reported back:
>
> from morgan collett:
> "Thanks for the logs. presenceservice.log shows that salut
> (LinkLocalPlugin) starts up successfully but doesn't detect anyone on
> the local network. gabble (ServerPlugin) repeatedly attempts to
> connect to a jabber server but fails - nevertheless salut is running."
>
> After this one of my students built a jabber server and we could do
> collaboration through that
>
> I was hoping that with the new Fedora USB key we could do collaboration
> out of the box, meaning without using the jabber server
>
> All I tested with the new Fedora USB key was trying to connect through
> Chat but that didn't work
>
> Let me know if you want more information or diagnostic files again - I
> can look up the details or ask joel for help if needed - just tell me
> exactly the information you need
>
> a bit more detail of the history here:
> http://xo-whs.wikispaces.com/connectivity
Ah, right.
So what we have is a complex policy issue, but it boils down to this:
With whom should a new Sugar user be "collaborating" by default?
Many options here. Machines on the local mesh subnet? Should there be a
default jabberd server? Should there be discoverability of all jabberd
servers in the world?
My take:
1. Whatever default policy we choose will be wrong for a significant
subset of users.
2. Collaboration must be one of the "killer apps", and even if it doesn't
work out of the box *trivially*, it should be possible for users to
iterate through the possible collaboration network options with miminal
pain.
3. Can we discuss this at next week's Sugar conference? To me, answering
these questions is worth a day or more of face time.
--g
15 years, 6 months
SanDisk Extreme III Test Cards
by Karlie Robinson
Good morning everyone.
I have been working with SanDisk and Arrow Electronics to source the SD
Cards you've spec'd for the Fedora on OLPC project.
If anyone would like to test on the OEM version[1] of the cards, I can
mail them to you at cost. So $30US. I'll pay the postage.
~Karlie
[1] - Why is OEM important? When any sort of flash memory is produced
there are minute differences with the internal structure. For this
project we'll need to use an OEM part which ensures that we have the
same card structure with every SD we send through the duplicator.
Retail packaged cards do not have a consistent internal structure which
can cause quality issues with a duplication run.
It's not that retail is inferior quality, but for day to day use (in a
camera, phone or other application) write tolerances don't need to be as
precise.
15 years, 6 months
Rebase joyride to Fedora 10
by Marco Pesenti Gritti
Hello,
we are planning to rebase to Fedora 10 for OLPC 9.1 and we would
better start on it asap. I'm not sure what needs to happen at the
build system level exactly but my guess would be:
* Create an OLPC-4 branch based on Fedora 10.
* Create the various dist-olpc4-* tags.
* Move pilgrim to use those.
Who can help with the Fedora side of things?
Thanks,
Marco
15 years, 6 months
Re: [IAEP] Announcing Fedora Sugar Spin!
by Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 4:07 PM, Caroline Meeks
<caroline(a)solutiongrove.com> wrote:
> I have some questions about the ticket tracker.
>
> Can we get email notifications from this ticket tracker?
Yup:
http://dev.sugarlabs.org/ticket/12
> Can I mark/watch bugs someone else puts in?
Yeah, you can add yourself to the cc field (using either your trac
name or an email address).
> How will bugs get assigned?
Every component has an owner, which will get tickets assigned by
default. The main question to me is what component to assign bugs by
default, if the reported does not choose one. Other trackers like
bugzilla "forces" to choose a component, but I'm not sure trac
provides something like that.
For now I'm going to make "sugar" the default component, so bugs are
going to be assigned to me by default (eeek!).
Marco
15 years, 6 months
Re: [IAEP] Announcing Fedora Sugar Spin!
by Greg DeKoenigsberg
On Tue, 11 Nov 2008, Bill Kerr wrote:
> Problems:
> * not enough activities
This will become better over time. Since we need to package activities
for Fedora and they need to be reviewed, there can be a bit of a lag. The
activities should be coming online continually.
> * collaboration did not work out of the box when tested on my network
> at school :-(
Meaning what, exactly? Can you be more specific?
> * shutdown does not work from drop down xo icon
Yeah, I noticed that in my previous attempts, too.
--g
15 years, 6 months
Re: [IAEP] Announcing Fedora Sugar Spin!
by Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 2:03 AM, Bill Kerr <billkerr(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> This was easy and quick to make using the liveusb creator
>
> Problems:
>
> not enough activities
We are working on it. Going a bit slowly because we are trying to get
as many as possible issues fixed upstream rather than by patching
problems in the rpms. Should pay off in the longer term :)
> collaboration did not work out of the box when tested on my network at
> school :-(
Network is pretty broken because we don't support NetworkManager 0.7.
Simon is working on it and making fast progresses.
> shutdown does not work from drop down xo icon
Can you open a ticket at dev.sugarlabs.org? It's probably an upstream issue.
Marco
15 years, 6 months
How to install Fedora on a SD card
by Juliano Bittencourt
Hey all,
I want to install Fedora on my SanDisk Extreme III card and
boot on my XO. I tried to look around the wiki and the archives of
this list to find the instructions, but I didn't found anything. Can
someone point me to the message and/or page with the instructions to
do this procedure?
Thanks a lot,
Juliano
Juliano Bittencourt <juliano(a)lec.ufrgs.br>
Laboratório de Estudos Cognitivos - LEC
Address: Rua Ramiro Barcelos, 2600 - Bairro Santa Cecília - Porto
Alegre - RS - Brasil
Phone: +55 51 3308 5250 and +55 51 3308 5690
15 years, 6 months
updating telepathy in OLPC's F9-based images
by Tomeu Vizoso
Hi all,
I'm having some trouble updating the telepathy packages in joyride,
which is a prerequisite for updating sugar.
My plan was to update the telepathy* packages in F9 to the sources of
those packages in F10, but I'm having some trouble in getting commit
permissions to do that.
Perhaps that's not the best way and we should request OLPC-3 branches
instead? Or build packages out of koji until we move joyride to F10?
Or perhaps we could update to F10 right away? ;)
Please advise. Thanks,
Tomeu
15 years, 6 months
PR for Fedora 10 on the XO laptops.
by Karlie Robinson
Hey everyone.
Buzz about F10 as an alternate OS for the One Laptop Per Child's XO
laptop has been underwhelming. Give one Get one starts in just a few
days at amazon.com/xo and there's not much known about the F10 option.
Could you help create some buzz?
Digg it at
http://digg.com/linux_unix/Fedora_10_a_Live_solution_for_One_Laptop_Per_C...
For those of you who "Stumble" could you give
http://on-disk.com/cms/index.php?wiki=Fedora_Live_on_One_Laptop_Per_Child...
thumbs up?
Tweet about F10 on the XO, anything you can think of. This doesn't just
spread Fedora, but it helps the OLPC mission in a big way. For every
person who wants an XO, a child will receive a lifetime of learning.
Let us know about any other articles you find talking about F10 on the
XO so we can digg, tweet and Stumble it.
If you're not the Social networking type, can you help the rest of us
come up with talking points to promote this F10 as an option for the XO?
The marketing points I have so far ...
... makes the XO behave like other small form factor (SFF) laptops.
... This is an exclusive piece of hardware. You can't get an XO just
anywhere.
... When you buy an XO you're helping children - you can't say that
about other SFF Laptops
... There's no need to skip the XO because you're not hyped about the
child-friendly Desktop Environment. With Fedora on the XO, you'll be
computing like you normally do.
... How 'bout that wifi? Those 'ears' double the hot spots you could
normally connect to. (No, really! When connecting at home with ordinary
wireless devices, I see 2-3 other networks. With the XO I see 5-6)
~Karlie
15 years, 6 months
