Re: the new background of the login screen upsets me
by Mikus Grinbergs
> > What is the software location of the picture shown as background?
> > I'd like to replace that picture on my personal system.
>
> rpm -ql leonidas-backgrounds
Thank you. Went into GNOME, changed the default system background.
Did 'rpm -e leonidas-backgrounds'. Saved myself 20 MB of nand.
mikus
15 years, 2 months
Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS-2] Another Snapshot!
by Sebastian Dziallas
Bert Freudenberg wrote:
> On 14.03.2009, at 00:07, Gary C Martin wrote:
>
>> On 13 Mar 2009, at 20:10, Caroline Meeks wrote:
>>
>>> I am getting a grey screen on the two computers I've tried it on.
>>
>> FWIW: It's booting fine here on a Mac using Sun's VirtualBox, haven't
>> done much more than boot it and run a few Activities yet.
>>
>> Regards,
>> --Gary
>
> Hangs for me in VMWare Fusion right after loading initrd, does not
> continue to boot nor start X. Previous image worked fine.
>
> - Bert -
Hi all,
thanks for giving this a try so quickly! Well, I just burnt it on a CD
and gave it a try. It worked quite well here, so I got a graphical
screen and was able to use most of the activities.
I'm not sure what might be the reason for the issues you're
encountering, but I tend to see Rawhide again as the cause.
I also get a gray screen for some seconds after the Fedora progress bar
disappeared, but then the mouse cursor appears. Hmm...
--Sebastian
>>> On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Sebastian Dziallas <sebastian(a)when.com
>>>> wrote:
>>> Hi folks,
>>>
>>> there's another new - though, completely untested - snapshot of soas-2
>>> ready and waiting for you here:
>>>
>>> http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/snapshots/2/Soas2-200903131725.iso
>>>
>>> A log file from the build process has been posted, too:
>>>
>>> http://shell.sugarlabs.org/sdz/soas2-20090313.log
>>>
>>> So what is new?
>>>
>>> * most activities have been updated to their latest version
>>> * sugar-update-control is now included - thanks to SMParrish
>>> * etoys, speak and read activity should now really be on it ;)
>>> * keyboard layout changes should be possible via system-config-
>>> keyboard
>>> * the soas version information has been incorporated correctly
>>>
>>> Concerning the last point: When booting the image, you should see a
>>> screen with the Fedora wallpaper for one second - press escape here
>>> and
>>> you should get to the boot menu, where you'll see the image's name.
>>>
>>> By the way, Fedora 11 (on which SoaS-2 is based) has entered beta
>>> freeze: So quite some packages won't be changing for now, but with the
>>> upcoming snapshots - as Rawhide progresses - it should stabilize more.
>>>
>>> Well, that's it so far. As always, please report any issues you
>>> encounter. Thanks and happy testing!
>>>
>>> --Your SoaS Team
15 years, 2 months
[SoaS-2] Another Snapshot!
by Mikus Grinbergs
> there's another new - though, completely untested - snapshot of soas-2
> ready and waiting for you here:
Why are there two separate "snapshots" of /Sugar on rawhide/
(one on ~cjb/rawhide-xo and the other on soas/snapshots/2) ?
Are two better than one ?
mikus
15 years, 2 months
Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS-2] Another Snapshot!
by Gary C Martin
On 13 Mar 2009, at 20:10, Caroline Meeks wrote:
> I am getting a grey screen on the two computers I've tried it on.
FWIW: It's booting fine here on a Mac using Sun's VirtualBox, haven't
done much more than boot it and run a few Activities yet.
Regards,
--Gary
> On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Sebastian Dziallas <sebastian(a)when.com
> > wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> there's another new - though, completely untested - snapshot of soas-2
> ready and waiting for you here:
>
> http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/snapshots/2/Soas2-200903131725.iso
>
> A log file from the build process has been posted, too:
>
> http://shell.sugarlabs.org/sdz/soas2-20090313.log
>
> So what is new?
>
> * most activities have been updated to their latest version
> * sugar-update-control is now included - thanks to SMParrish
> * etoys, speak and read activity should now really be on it ;)
> * keyboard layout changes should be possible via system-config-
> keyboard
> * the soas version information has been incorporated correctly
>
> Concerning the last point: When booting the image, you should see a
> screen with the Fedora wallpaper for one second - press escape here
> and
> you should get to the boot menu, where you'll see the image's name.
>
> By the way, Fedora 11 (on which SoaS-2 is based) has entered beta
> freeze: So quite some packages won't be changing for now, but with the
> upcoming snapshots - as Rawhide progresses - it should stabilize more.
>
> Well, that's it so far. As always, please report any issues you
> encounter. Thanks and happy testing!
>
> --Your SoaS Team
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15 years, 2 months
[SoaS-2] Another Snapshot!
by Sebastian Dziallas
Hi folks,
there's another new - though, completely untested - snapshot of soas-2
ready and waiting for you here:
http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/snapshots/2/Soas2-200903131725.iso
A log file from the build process has been posted, too:
http://shell.sugarlabs.org/sdz/soas2-20090313.log
So what is new?
* most activities have been updated to their latest version
* sugar-update-control is now included - thanks to SMParrish
* etoys, speak and read activity should now really be on it ;)
* keyboard layout changes should be possible via system-config-keyboard
* the soas version information has been incorporated correctly
Concerning the last point: When booting the image, you should see a
screen with the Fedora wallpaper for one second - press escape here and
you should get to the boot menu, where you'll see the image's name.
By the way, Fedora 11 (on which SoaS-2 is based) has entered beta
freeze: So quite some packages won't be changing for now, but with the
upcoming snapshots - as Rawhide progresses - it should stabilize more.
Well, that's it so far. As always, please report any issues you
encounter. Thanks and happy testing!
--Your SoaS Team
15 years, 2 months
rawhide-xo 20090312 daily build n00b observations
by S Page
With help from most excellent cjb I got the revised
20090312.bootable.gz on an 8GB SD card and it booted on my XO running
candidate 801 and recent firmware.
I created http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Rawhide-XO and its Talk page,
seems useful. Maybe http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Rawhide-XO can link to
it; maybe the info belongs on SugarLabs.org ?
I was able to use `zcat 20090312.bootable.gz > /dev/sdb` in Windows
XP SP3 under Cygwin. In case anyone else is stupid enough to use
Windows,
* I used `cat /proc/partitions` to figure out what device it was.
* Twice I had a corrupted FAT32 root directory. I suspect Windows got
confused about the altered partitioning. I wound up running Cygwin's
`sync` after zcat and then yanking the card out, *not* using Windows
"Safely Remove Hardware".
==> One obvious downside of this zcat approach is it writes its own
partition table, so AIUI until you fiddle with a partition editor, the
rest of your flash drive is unusable. It would be nice and work
better in Windows if Rawhide-XO could use the
https://fedorahosted.org/liveusb-creator/ that SoaS recommends.
==> I'm clueless on LiveCDs/Live USBs, is there a user's guide to them
that explains simple things like does its content get updated, how to
mount my XO's NAND flash, what /dev/dm-1 on /media/20090312 is in the
mount table, is there still Ctrl+Alt+F3 to get a console, etc.
== Booting and login ==
During boot:
IO APIC resource could not be allocated
Unable to find persistent overlay: using temporary X 2
/bin/mknod: /dev/loop{0..7}: File exists x 8
Deprecated config file /etc/modprobe.conf + other modprobe warnings
I got a login screen with overlapping garbled text at the lower right.
It had a chooser for keyboard which defaulted to en_US keyboard.
The first time before I did anything it auto-logged me into a Gnome-ish desktop.
The second time I booted I scrolled through the keyboard list looking
for an English OLPC Keyboard layout , but could not find one, just
Afghanistan OLPC keyboards (yet there is "OLPC" in Gnome Keyboard
preferences). While looking at this I got auto-logged in again.
== Gnome/X ==
The Gnome desktop: Pretty snappy, not bad! I've previously only used
Gnome for a few minutes under emulation.
I got an alert "Error activating XKB configuration". Is this the same
as the "1. complained about the keyboard map" that others reported?
Here are the two commands the alert told me to run
$ xprop -root | grep XKB
_XKB_RULES_NAMES(STRING) = "evdev", "pc105+inet", "us", "", ""
_XKB_RULES_NAMES_BACKUP(STRING) same
$ gconftool-2 -R /desktop/gnome/peripherals/keyboard/kbd
layouts = [en_US.UTF-8]
options = []
model =
I used System > Preferences > Keyboard > Layouts to choose OLPC, but
then I got the same alert. After doing this gconftool-2 thought I had
model = olpc, but _XKB_RULES_NAMES was unchanged.
I got a warning "Battery may be broken"
No power management from power key or lid close. (Sounds like I
should follow Scott Douglass' HowTo's, but I'm not sure that I can if
running from a live USB.)
The file browser and Places show a LIVE device but nothing happens if
I choose it.
Clicking the web and mail icons gave errors "Could not launch
application Firefox/evolution" (they're not installed)
== Sugar ==
How do I launch activities in Gnome? In Terminal I tried
`sugar-activity Pippy` and got SUGAR_BUNDLE_PATH is not defined in the
environment.
How do I start the Sugar desktop instead of Gnome? I guessed and ran
`sugar-session`. That asked for Name, then "click to change color"
but didn't show any XO guy.
The Sugar Home view appeared with TurtleArt, etc., but it seemed the
top of its menu bar was obscured by the Gnome menu strip across the
top.
No XO guy in the middle, but hovering brought up the XO guy's context menu.
Pressing the Frame key brought up a Gnome-ish context menu, not the Frame.
Moving to a corner brought up a Frame, but then I couldn't make it go
away. It seems a lot of icons are missing from the frame.
I started Calc, but it pulsed for a long time before returning to the Home view.
I wound up with five "sugar-session" items in the Gnome bottom menu
strip, it seems one for each part of the Frame.
When I pressed Alt-Tab to return to Gnome's Terminal, I couldn't get
back to a Sugar desktop showing the Home view no matter what items I
clicked or Alt-Tabbed. Yet `sugar-session` was still running. I
finally Ctrl-C'd it.
I tried again, immediatley moving Sugar to a different workspace.
That workspace didn't show any icon for Sugar.
The Home and Activity keys worked, but still starting Pippy just
pulsed for a long time then returned to Home view.
Invisible XO guy's My Settings worked, though "Languages" icon was cut
off. "Generic release 10.92 (Rawhide), Sugar 0.84.0.
== Finish ==
Logout dumped some console output and then returned to a login screen.
I chose [Shutdown], I didn't get the OLPC cautions graphic.
The XO didn't power off, I had to hold down the power button.
Now to repeat all this with the SoaS 2 USB flash drive I just made!
Congratulations.
I apologize for the clueless questions, but I will write down what I learn.
Cheers,
--
=S Page
15 years, 2 months
using the stock OLPC kernel in F11/Rawhide
by Scott Douglass
Friends,
It is possible to use the stock OLPC kernel which includes power
management, DCON and working audio drivers (at the least) with the
F11/Rawhide images that CJB is generating.
In theory, this gives you, now, a working XO laptop, and the latest
Sugar. And as an added bonus a really usable GNOME desktop and anything
else you can yum install.
In practice, Rawhide is so raw you can't get much benefit from this yet.
Here is the "howto". I've done all this on the NAND, after converting
from a "live" setup to a "dead" setup as per one of my previous messages
to this list...
1. install the latest Rawhide for XO image from:
http://dev.laptop.org/~cjb/rawhide-xo/
2. by any means necessary install the kernel RPM from staging release
801. This can be found in the OLPC git repo:
http://mock.laptop.org/gitweb/gitweb.cgi?p=repos;a=blob_plain;f=RPMS/kern...
Sorry for the long URL...
rpm -ivh kernel-2.6.25-20090223.1.olpc.69098d87d56945c.i586.rpm --force
3. copy /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.25-20090223.1.olpc.69098d87d56945c
to /boot/vmlinuz1
4. make a backup copy of /boot/olpc.fth (e.g.
cp /boot/olpc.fth /boot/olplc.fth.backup)
5. edit /boot/olpc.fth, change the kernel to vmlinuz1 and remove the
entire line the ends in "ramdisk".
6. setup ohmd:
# yum install ohmd
7. Reboot
# init 6
End result, you can play audio/music on the text console (using aplay,
mpg123, flac123 etc), and you can echo into the devices to suspend the
XO (and hit the power button to come back from suspend)
e.g. to suspend:
echo mem > /sys/power/stat
In a GNOME session, we have mixed results.
You can enable "dim display on idle" in the gnome-power-preferences,
which is cool. Don't try to "suspend" from the gnome-power-manager
applet, that just kills your gdm/X session as far as I can tell. And the
Hibernate menu item does nothing at all. The brightness applet works
nicely.
Pulseaudio still doesn't detect the sound hardware.
Ekiga, set to use the direct alsa/hardware audio almost works... tried
the echo test and at least heard a voice before it crashes.
Note, I've not tested a Sugar session... will try that tomorrow.
G'night!
15 years, 2 months
No meeting today, and a question about meetings
by Greg DeKoenigsberg
Hi folks. I'm afraid I've got other responsibilities that are going to
prevent me from running a meeting today.
Let me ask this question: how valuable have these weekly meetings been for
you? It looks like there's strong activity on the mailing list, and
continuing progress, if perhaps a bit slower than everyone would like.
Having me say "gee, no time for a meeting this week, sorry" feels pretty
lame. If the meetings are valuable, we should probably find someone else
to run them at this point. I feel like I'm doing many jobs poorly, and in
my limited time would like to concentrate on a job to do well -- and at
this point, I feel like there are several other people who could be
running these meetings successfully.
Comments welcome.
--g
--
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15 years, 2 months
Re: 20090312 daily build
by Mikus Grinbergs
> The ISO boots okay here, but the NAND image doesn't seem to.
Empirically, I've found that in order for any rawhide boot to work
on my XO, I must press 'check'. [Otherwise, the firmware (Q2E33)
"gets hung" while sensing the USB devices plugged into the XO.]
With 'check' pressed, my XO doesn't boot 20090312 from NAND. It
completes the (lit background) screen where the output messages from
the firmware are shown (e.g., "Loading ramdisk image ...") -- but
hangs after switching to the dark-background screen -- none of the
(white text on dark) messages from the system loading process itself
get to be shown.
mikus
15 years, 2 months
