2:51 p.m.
Hi,
Here's a build of the F11 beta release for XO:
http://dev.laptop.org/~cjb/rawhide-xo/f11-beta/
Instructions on flashing are at http://dev.laptop.org/~cjb/rawhide-xo/.
Enjoy,
- Chris, with thanks to the SoaS and Fedora teams.
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6:24 p.m.
On Fri, Apr 03, 2009 at 03:51:59PM -0400, Chris Ball wrote:
Hi,
Here's a build of the F11 beta release for XO:
http://dev.laptop.org/~cjb/rawhide-xo/f11-beta/
Instructions on flashing are at http://dev.laptop.org/~cjb/rawhide-xo/.
Would love to, but it doesn't seem to boot for me, it just shows the child
logo and doesn't move on :(
Rui
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6:33 p.m.
On Sat, Apr 04, 2009 at 12:24:29AM +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
On Fri, Apr 03, 2009 at 03:51:59PM -0400, Chris Ball wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Here's a build of the F11 beta release for XO:
>
> http://dev.laptop.org/~cjb/rawhide-xo/f11-beta/
>
> Instructions on flashing are at http://dev.laptop.org/~cjb/rawhide-xo/.
Would love to, but it doesn't seem to boot for me, it just shows the child
logo and doesn't move on :(
Using and SD cart and the "bootable" image with
zcat bla.gz | dd of=/dev/sdb bs=1m
Either with the SD in the built-in slot or in the USB por with a card
reader, the result is the same :(
Rui
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+ So let's do it...?
6:05 a.m.
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 9:51 PM, Chris Ball <cjb(a)laptop.org> wrote:
Here's a build of the F11 beta release for XO:
http://dev.laptop.org/~cjb/rawhide-xo/f11-beta/
Instructions on flashing are at http://dev.laptop.org/~cjb/rawhide-xo/.
How does this relate to the recent SoaS builds?
I am trying to organise a test effort on Thursday, and was planning to
target the latest SoaS on XO hw. Is this newer? Older? More
XO-specific fixes? Less?
cheers,
m
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6:13 a.m.
> Here's a build of the F11 beta release for XO:
>
> http://dev.laptop.org/~cjb/rawhide-xo/f11-beta/
>
> Instructions on flashing are at http://dev.laptop.org/~cjb/rawhide-xo/.
How does this relate to the recent SoaS builds?
I am trying to organise a test effort on Thursday, and was planning to
target the latest SoaS on XO hw. Is this newer? Older? More
XO-specific fixes? Less?
I'm not sure what release of Fedora SoaS is based on. From the Fedora
perspective this is the latest beta release, essentially a snapshot of
rawhide on the way to F11. It has all the latest Sugar stuff in it but
has no specific XO fixes in it. EG it doesn't have the XO specific
kernel patches in it which I assume SoaS does. Its part of the process
of getting all the XO/OLPC changes upstream into Fedora so that there
isn't extra maintenance required by the OLPC/sugar/XO teams and they
can concentrate on the more important things like sugar development
rather than having to build packages for gstreamer or xulrunner or
whatever.
It would be great to get some testing done on it if possible to see
what the issues are with it. I've been meaning on taking a look at
SoaS to see what the differences are between that and rawhide but I
just haven't had the time to do so yet.
Peter
7:48 a.m.
On Sat, Apr 04, 2009 at 12:13:36PM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote:
>> Here's a build of the F11 beta release for XO:
>>
>> http://dev.laptop.org/~cjb/rawhide-xo/f11-beta/
>>
>> Instructions on flashing are at http://dev.laptop.org/~cjb/rawhide-xo/.
>
> How does this relate to the recent SoaS builds?
>
> I am trying to organise a test effort on Thursday, and was planning to
> target the latest SoaS on XO hw. Is this newer? Older? More
> XO-specific fixes? Less?
I'm not sure what release of Fedora SoaS is based on.
F11/rawhide.
From the Fedora perspective this is the latest beta release
Is this statement meant to be equivalent to "this is the latest F11
beta"?
It has all the latest Sugar stuff in it but
has no specific XO fixes in it. EG it doesn't have the XO specific
kernel patches in it which I assume SoaS does.
Soas does not, nor does
http://dev.laptop.org/~cjb/rawhide-xo/f11-beta/ . I can't speak for
the intentions of either "distro"s in the future.
Please recall Soas is targeted at more than XOs...I would assume that
the OLPC distro is more likely to include XO-specific bits than the
Soas distro. But now we're both assuming, rather than asking.
It would be great to get some testing done on it if possible to see
what the issues are with it. I've been meaning on taking a look at
SoaS to see what the differences are between that and rawhide but I
just haven't had the time to do so yet.
They're essentially the same right now apart from the choice of
desktop environment.
Peter
Martin
8:07 a.m.
> From the Fedora perspective this is the latest beta release
Is this statement meant to be equivalent to "this is the latest F11
beta"?
Now I read it, a fairly pointless statement.... should have coffee
_BEFORE_ replying to emails in the morning.
> It has all the latest Sugar stuff in it but
> has no specific XO fixes in it. EG it doesn't have the XO specific
> kernel patches in it which I assume SoaS does.
Soas does not, nor does
http://dev.laptop.org/~cjb/rawhide-xo/f11-beta/ . I can't speak for
the intentions of either "distro"s in the future.
Please recall Soas is targeted at more than XOs...I would assume that
the OLPC distro is more likely to include XO-specific bits than the
Soas distro. But now we're both assuming, rather than asking.
> It would be great to get some testing done on it if possible to see
> what the issues are with it. I've been meaning on taking a look at
> SoaS to see what the differences are between that and rawhide but I
> just haven't had the time to do so yet.
They're essentially the same right now apart from the choice of
desktop environment.
Yea, it seems that its basically very similar.
Peter
8:10 a.m.
On Sat, Apr 04, 2009 at 01:05:39PM +0200, Martin Langhoff wrote:
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 9:51 PM, Chris Ball <cjb(a)laptop.org>
wrote:
> Here's a build of the F11 beta release for XO:
>
> http://dev.laptop.org/~cjb/rawhide-xo/f11-beta/
>
> Instructions on flashing are at http://dev.laptop.org/~cjb/rawhide-xo/.
How does this relate to the recent SoaS builds?
I am trying to organise a test effort on Thursday, and was planning to
I'd test Soas-2 (what I'm running on my XO now). Just a personal
opinion.
Is this newer? Older?
Only if rawhide / beta has changed
More XO-specific fixes? Less?
The same.
cheers,
m
Martin
11:39 a.m.
On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Martin Dengler <martin(a)martindengler.com> wrote:
I'd test Soas-2 (what I'm running on my XO now). Just a
personal
opinion.
Yeah, that's what I am thinking of doing. Is there stuff that is known
to be 'broken' on the XO?
IIRC, the NM there can't handle the mesh devices, so no "under a tree"
automagic mesh or ad-hoc networking is present. So not expecting that
to work. Anything else? Sound? Sleep? Screen rotate? 'Game keys'?
cheers,
m
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7:43 a.m.
On Sat, Apr 04, 2009 at 06:39:53PM +0200, Martin Langhoff wrote:
On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Martin Dengler
<martin(a)martindengler.com> wrote:
> I'd test Soas-2 (what I'm running on my XO now). Just a personal
> opinion.
Yeah, that's what I am thinking of doing. Is there stuff that is known
to be 'broken' on the XO?
IIRC, the NM there can't handle the mesh devices, so no "under a tree"
automagic mesh or ad-hoc networking is present. So not expecting that
to work.
Indeed, mesh doesn't work.
Sound?
Not sure (I thought it worked but haven't checked recently).
Sleep?
Nope
Screen rotate?
Nope
'Game keys'?
Nope
Other things OTTOMH:
- Most / all of the XO-specific keys don't work. The keymap isn't set
to an OLPC one at boot (these are two seperate problems).
- DCON driver isn't available - so forget about coming out of pretty
boot (use the check key when starting to avoid pretty boot) - or
changing the backlight level, etc.)
- /ofw doesn't exist
- network frame icon still blank (I think for the same reason as
http://dev.sugarlabs.org/ticket/307 )
- some WPA (1) networks unable to be associated with (not sure why,
could be #307 again)
cheers,
m
Martin
5:54 a.m.
On Sun, Apr 05, 2009 at 01:43:07PM +0100, Martin Dengler wrote:
- network frame icon still blank (I think for the same reason as
http://dev.sugarlabs.org/ticket/307 )
- some WPA (1) networks unable to be associated with (not sure why,
could be #307 again)
I just rebuilt a Soas2-based image and these two issues are solved.
Awesome.
> cheers,
> m
Martin
Martin
5:57 a.m.
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Martin Dengler
<martin(a)martindengler.com> wrote:
On Sun, Apr 05, 2009 at 01:43:07PM +0100, Martin Dengler wrote:
> - network frame icon still blank (I think for the same reason as
> http://dev.sugarlabs.org/ticket/307 )
>
> - some WPA (1) networks unable to be associated with (not sure why,
> could be #307 again)
I just rebuilt a Soas2-based image and these two issues are solved.
Awesome.
From rawhide, or with the custom kernel that was mentioned?
Peter
6:34 a.m.
On Mon, Apr 06, 2009 at 11:57:14AM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote:
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Martin Dengler
<martin(a)martindengler.com> wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 05, 2009 at 01:43:07PM +0100, Martin Dengler wrote:
>> - network frame icon still blank (I think for the same reason as
>> http://dev.sugarlabs.org/ticket/307 )
>>
>> - some WPA (1) networks unable to be associated with (not sure why,
>> could be #307 again)
>
> I just rebuilt a Soas2-based image and these two issues are solved.
> Awesome.
>From rawhide, or with the custom kernel that was mentioned?
Rawhide. Though the custom kernel shouldn't directly affect those two
problems IIUC.
Peter
Martin
5:57 a.m.
Martin Dengler wrote:
On Sun, Apr 05, 2009 at 01:43:07PM +0100, Martin Dengler wrote:
> - network frame icon still blank (I think for the same reason as
> http://dev.sugarlabs.org/ticket/307 )
>
> - some WPA (1) networks unable to be associated with (not sure why,
> could be #307 again)
I just rebuilt a Soas2-based image and these two issues are solved.
Awesome.
I fixed another WPA related thing lately #575 - could be that as well.
Happy it is working now.
Cheers,
Simon
8:37 a.m.
New subject: Help activity
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Hi all,
In the repos (the one at sugarlabs.org and dev.laptop.org) is Version 7
of 'help' available but there is a new image (Version 10) mentioned on
the wiki page [1].
Where is the new source? Or is this just a mistake?
BTW, does anybody know where the source tarball of help could be found?
Kind regards,
Fabian
[1] http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Help_(activity)
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8:10 p.m.
New subject: Help activity
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 6:37 AM, Fabian Affolter <fab(a)fedoraproject.org> wrote:
In the repos (the one at sugarlabs.org and dev.laptop.org) is Version
7
of 'help' available but there is a new image (Version 10) mentioned on
the wiki page [1].
Where is the new source? Or is this just a mistake?
BTW, does anybody know where the source tarball of help could be found?
That page http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Help_(activity) links to a newer
v10 version of the .xo file that OLPC's Sj uploaded on 2008-09-26.
You can install it on an XO, or unzip it. As that page indicates, the
content comes from http://en.flossmanuals.net/XO and
http://en.flossmanuals.net/Sugar , somehow someone turns these into a
set of HTML pages and creates the Help activity (and you would hope,
also updates http://www.laptop.org/8.2.0/manual ).
What might be happening is people are updating the *content* on
Flossmanuals and somehow making new .xo bundles, but not always
updating git. Or vice-versa (thrice-versa?). It looks like
http://dev.laptop.org/git/activities/help and
http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/help have changes up to v9 but not
v10.
To add to potential confusion, I think people have started updating
the content on Flossmanuals to reflect Sugar 0.84, but there's no
obvious "applies to release xx" in the pages.
The people who really know might be on library(a)lists.laptop.org
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12:03 p.m.
New subject: Help activity
Brian Jordan(CCed) has been the help maintainer. He should be able to
shed more light on the situation.
david
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 8:10 PM, S Page <skierpage(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 6:37 AM, Fabian Affolter
<fab(a)fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> In the repos (the one at sugarlabs.org and dev.laptop.org) is Version 7
> of 'help' available but there is a new image (Version 10) mentioned on
> the wiki page [1].
>
> Where is the new source? Or is this just a mistake?
> BTW, does anybody know where the source tarball of help could be found?
That page http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Help_(activity) links to a newer
v10 version of the .xo file that OLPC's Sj uploaded on 2008-09-26.
You can install it on an XO, or unzip it. As that page indicates, the
content comes from http://en.flossmanuals.net/XO and
http://en.flossmanuals.net/Sugar , somehow someone turns these into a
set of HTML pages and creates the Help activity (and you would hope,
also updates http://www.laptop.org/8.2.0/manual ).
What might be happening is people are updating the *content* on
Flossmanuals and somehow making new .xo bundles, but not always
updating git. Or vice-versa (thrice-versa?). It looks like
http://dev.laptop.org/git/activities/help and
http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/help have changes up to v9 but not
v10.
To add to potential confusion, I think people have started updating
the content on Flossmanuals to reflect Sugar 0.84, but there's no
obvious "applies to release xx" in the pages.
The people who really know might be on library(a)lists.laptop.org
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7:32 p.m.
On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Martin Langhoff
<martin.langhoff(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Yeah, that's what I am thinking of doing. Is there stuff that is
known
to be 'broken' on the XO?
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Rawhide-XO#Known_issues , edit away.It also
links to the Sugar Labs Testing pages for SoaS images.
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11:51 a.m.
Hi Martin,
How does this relate to the recent SoaS builds?
They're very similar, indeed. The rawhide-xo builds have both GNOME
and Sugar for you to choose between, and we can imagine putting an OLPC
kernel on to the XO builds to get better support, but otherwise they're
pretty identical.
- Chris.
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2:18 p.m.
Hi Chris,
Out of interest does OFW support ext4? I've tried today to get a SD
card to boot using your image with no luck, but shoved a usb key in
that has the standard F11 beta on it and the kernel booted straight up
but got no further.
Peter
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 8:51 PM, Chris Ball <cjb(a)laptop.org> wrote:
Hi,
Here's a build of the F11 beta release for XO:
http://dev.laptop.org/~cjb/rawhide-xo/f11-beta/
Instructions on flashing are at http://dev.laptop.org/~cjb/rawhide-xo/.
Enjoy,
- Chris, with thanks to the SoaS and Fedora teams.
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7:25 a.m.
On Sat, Apr 04, 2009 at 08:18:50PM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote:
Out of interest does OFW support ext4? I've tried today to get a
SD
card to boot using your image with no luck, but shoved a usb key in
that has the standard F11 beta on it and the kernel booted straight up
but got no further.
If you got to the kernel and didn't see any initrd errors then OFW's
job (finding the kernel and initrd) was done. I've noticed that if
OFW can load the kernel but not the initrd it's hard to see that error
- the failure message gets cleared away by the kernel loading
messages.
Peter
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