8:30 a.m.
If you add a new activity via a yum update, you have to restart sugar
for it to appear on the desktop (or, to appear on the list so you can
put it on the desktop). Combine that with the fact there is no logout
for Sugar, you are left with either a restart (reboot) or
Ctrl-alt-backspace.
I understand you can download .xo files from a website. Are these
automatically added to the desktop? If so, is there some code or script
which we can put in an rpm %post section to make them appear?
-- bk
8:58 a.m.
On Thu, 20 Nov 2008, Bryan Kearney wrote:
If you add a new activity via a yum update, you have to restart sugar
for it to appear on the desktop (or, to appear on the list so you can
put it on the desktop). Combine that with the fact there is no logout
for Sugar, you are left with either a restart (reboot) or
Ctrl-alt-backspace.
I understand you can download .xo files from a website. Are these
automatically added to the desktop? If so, is there some code or script
which we can put in an rpm %post section to make them appear?
In Sugar, when you download an Activity, it shows up both in the Journal
and on the Launcher basically immediately -- but that's because it shows
up, I think, in the user's homedir. Activities can run either from the
systemwide activity space -- which is where RPM puts them -- or the local
user space, which is where the activity goes when a user downloads it.
Not sure I've answered your question though, heh.
--g
9:03 a.m.
Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote:
On Thu, 20 Nov 2008, Bryan Kearney wrote:
> If you add a new activity via a yum update, you have to restart sugar
> for it to appear on the desktop (or, to appear on the list so you can
> put it on the desktop). Combine that with the fact there is no logout
> for Sugar, you are left with either a restart (reboot) or
> Ctrl-alt-backspace.
>
> I understand you can download .xo files from a website. Are these
> automatically added to the desktop? If so, is there some code or
> script which we can put in an rpm %post section to make them appear?
In Sugar, when you download an Activity, it shows up both in the Journal
and on the Launcher basically immediately -- but that's because it shows
up, I think, in the user's homedir. Activities can run either from the
systemwide activity space -- which is where RPM puts them -- or the
local user space, which is where the activity goes when a user downloads
it.
Not sure I've answered your question though, heh.
No.. you did not :)
There is some incantation to tell sugar to refresh the activities. If we
could put that in the rpm (or at least doco it) it would make
installing a much more pleasant activity.
-- bk
9:51 a.m.
Hi,
There is some incantation to tell sugar to refresh the
activities. If we could put that in the rpm (or at least doco it)
it would make installing a much more pleasant activity.
I think there's a goal of making this just work via inotify or
something, so the answer may be "hang on a few weeks". The way
that Sugar handles it when you download from the Sugar browser is:
from sugar.bundle.activitybundle import ActivityBundle
xo = "/filename/that/was/just/downloaded.xo"
ActivityBundle(xo).install()
When an activity's installed in this way, a dbus message to add the
new activity to the the Sugar view is created, as I understand it.
For this to be done inside the RPM, we'd need to be:
* running as the right user
* with the right $DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS envvar set and a
connection to the session bus
* and Sugar running at the time, of course
(So Greg's statement about the activities being in the user's homedir
isn't the right answer; it's that we tell Sugar about the new activity
directly, not that it knows to track changes to a directory.)
Given how much hassle it would be to satisfy the bullet points above,
letting the Sugar folks know that the inotify idea is something Fedora
would like soon is probably the best way forward.
Thanks!
- Chris.
--
Chris Ball <cjb(a)laptop.org>
9:37 a.m.
On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 9:30 AM, Bryan Kearney <bkearney(a)redhat.com> wrote:
If you add a new activity via a yum update, you have to restart sugar
for it
to appear on the desktop (or, to appear on the list so you can put it on the
desktop). Combine that with the fact there is no logout for Sugar, you are
left with either a restart (reboot) or Ctrl-alt-backspace.
I understand you can download .xo files from a website. Are these
automatically added to the desktop? If so, is there some code or script
which we can put in an rpm %post section to make them appear?
Probably sugar should use inotify to detect new installations...
Ticket at d.s.o please :)
Marco
9:40 a.m.
Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote:
On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 9:30 AM, Bryan Kearney
<bkearney(a)redhat.com> wrote:
> If you add a new activity via a yum update, you have to restart sugar for it
> to appear on the desktop (or, to appear on the list so you can put it on the
> desktop). Combine that with the fact there is no logout for Sugar, you are
> left with either a restart (reboot) or Ctrl-alt-backspace.
>
> I understand you can download .xo files from a website. Are these
> automatically added to the desktop? If so, is there some code or script
> which we can put in an rpm %post section to make them appear?
Probably sugar should use inotify to detect new installations...
Ticket at d.s.o please :)
Will do.. do you want it here: http://dev.laptop.org/newticket
-- bk
9:45 a.m.
Here actually http://dev.sugarlabs.org/ being an upstream issue...
Marco
On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 10:40 AM, Bryan Kearney <bkearney(a)redhat.com> wrote:
Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote:
>
> On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 9:30 AM, Bryan Kearney <bkearney(a)redhat.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> If you add a new activity via a yum update, you have to restart sugar for
>> it
>> to appear on the desktop (or, to appear on the list so you can put it on
>> the
>> desktop). Combine that with the fact there is no logout for Sugar, you
>> are
>> left with either a restart (reboot) or Ctrl-alt-backspace.
>>
>> I understand you can download .xo files from a website. Are these
>> automatically added to the desktop? If so, is there some code or script
>> which we can put in an rpm %post section to make them appear?
>
> Probably sugar should use inotify to detect new installations...
> Ticket at d.s.o please :)
Will do.. do you want it here: http://dev.laptop.org/newticket
-- bk
9:45 a.m.
Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote:
Here actually http://dev.sugarlabs.org/ being an upstream issue...
Marco
On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 10:40 AM, Bryan Kearney <bkearney(a)redhat.com> wrote:
> Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote:
>> On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 9:30 AM, Bryan Kearney <bkearney(a)redhat.com>
>> wrote:
>>> If you add a new activity via a yum update, you have to restart sugar for
>>> it
>>> to appear on the desktop (or, to appear on the list so you can put it on
>>> the
>>> desktop). Combine that with the fact there is no logout for Sugar, you
>>> are
>>> left with either a restart (reboot) or Ctrl-alt-backspace.
>>>
>>> I understand you can download .xo files from a website. Are these
>>> automatically added to the desktop? If so, is there some code or script
>>> which we can put in an rpm %post section to make them appear?
>> Probably sugar should use inotify to detect new installations...
>> Ticket at d.s.o please :)
> Will do.. do you want it here: http://dev.laptop.org/newticket
>
> -- bk
Actually... a ticket was already created:
http://dev.sugarlabs.org/ticket/43
-- bk
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