Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=583236 Rex Dieter <rdieter(a)math.unl.edu&gt; changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |rdieter(a)math.unl.edu --- Comment #1 from Rex Dieter <rdieter(a)math.unl.edu&gt; 2010-04-17 07:05:35 EDT --- I had a recent conversation in #phonon on irc, [10:31] <j-b> rdieter: audited vlc source code [10:31] <j-b> and tarballs [10:31] <j-b> Some parts will give you headaches, but not many of them [10:32] <rdieter> j-b: boo, was afraid of headaches, but we've dealt with similar before. any details? [10:33] <j-b> rdieter: mp3 and wma fixed-point decoder/encoder for embedded devices. [10:33] <j-b> rdieter: and DVB sub decoder/encoder (but I would say those are not licensed) [10:36] <rdieter> j-b: thanks! I'll make sure to review that prior to our splitting it up. [10:41] <j-b> rdieter: confirmed. shine+wmafixed. DVBsub should be ok. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=583236 Peter Lemenkov <lemenkov(a)gmail.com&gt; changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |lemenkov(a)gmail.com --- Comment #3 from Peter Lemenkov <lemenkov(a)gmail.com&gt; 2010-04-19 01:45:00 EDT --- Folks, I'm just curious, what's the story behind this review? I mean, VLC functionality must be greatly degraded in order to be submitted to Fedora, so is it worth at all? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=583236 --- Comment #5 from Rex Dieter <rdieter(a)math.unl.edu&gt; 2010-04-19 09:16:06 EDT --- The primary purpose (from my POV) is to allow phonon-vlc backend into fedora. It will not conflict, and will (hopefully) be splittable into free/unpatented bits in fedora, with the nonfree/patented bits elsewhere, much like what is currently done with gsstreamer and xine-lib. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=583236 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa(a)redhat.com&gt; changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |tcallawa(a)redhat.com --- Comment #7 from Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa(a)redhat.com&gt; 2010-04-19 14:25:39 EDT --- These files are patent-encumbered, and cannot be in the source tarball that Fedora uses: modules/codec/a52.* modules/codec/dvbsub.c modules/codec/shine/* modules/codec/spudec/* modules/codec/wmafixed/* Everything else that I see is either okay, or is dependent on third party libraries (or DLL files) that we can't include in Fedora. Show me a package that removes those files and builds cleanly and I'll lift FE-Legal. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=583236 --- Comment #9 from Rex Dieter <rdieter(a)math.unl.edu&gt; 2010-04-21 10:52:22 EDT --- Scratch build with the aforementioned mock patch: http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=2130404 $ rpmlint vlc-1.1.0-0.3.pre1.fc12.rex.src.rpm x86_64/*.rpm | grep -v rpath vlc.src: W: spelling-error %description -l en_US unicast -> uni cast, uni-cast, unicameral vlc.src: W: spelling-error %description -l en_US multicast -> Multics, multicultural, multitask vlc.src:9: W: mixed-use-of-spaces-and-tabs (spaces: line 1, tab: line 9) vlc.src: W: invalid-url Source0: http://download.videolan.org/pub/videolan/vlc/1.1.0/vlc-1.1.0-pre1.tar.bz2 HTTP Error 404: Not Found mozilla-vlc.x86_64: W: spelling-error Summary(en_US) plugin -> plug in, plug-in, plugging mozilla-vlc.x86_64: W: spelling-error %description -l en_US plugin -> plug in, plug-in, plugging mozilla-vlc.x86_64: W: no-documentation vlc.x86_64: W: spelling-error %description -l en_US unicast -> uni cast, uni-cast, unicameral vlc.x86_64: W: spelling-error %description -l en_US multicast -> Multics, multicultural, multitask vlc.x86_64: W: incoherent-version-in-changelog 1.1.0-0.3.pre1 ['1.1.0-0.3.pre1.fc13.rex', '1.1.0-0.3.pre1.rex'] vlc.x86_64: W: dangling-relative-symlink /usr/share/vlc/skins2/fonts/FreeSans.ttf ../../../fonts/dejavu/DejaVuSans.ttf vlc.x86_64: W: dangling-relative-symlink /usr/share/vlc/skins2/fonts/FreeSansBold.ttf ../../../fonts/dejavu/DejaVuSans-Bold.ttf vlc.x86_64: W: file-not-utf8 /usr/share/doc/vlc-1.1.0/ChangeLog vlc-core.x86_64: W: hidden-file-or-dir /usr/share/vlc/lua/http/dialogs/.hosts vlc-core.x86_64: W: hidden-file-or-dir /usr/share/vlc/http/.hosts vlc-core.x86_64: W: hidden-file-or-dir /usr/share/vlc/http/dialogs/.hosts vlc-core.x86_64: W: hidden-file-or-dir /usr/share/vlc/lua/http/.hosts vlc-devel.x86_64: W: no-dependency-on vlc/vlc-libs/libvlc vlc-nox.x86_64: W: spelling-error %description -l en_US framebuffer -> frame buffer, frame-buffer, framework vlc-nox.x86_64: W: no-documentation vlc-plugin-jack.x86_64: W: no-documentation 7 packages and 0 specfiles checked; 293 errors, 21 warnings. I grepped out the bazillion rpath errors, for brevity. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=583236 Chen Lei <supercyper(a)163.com&gt; changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |supercyper(a)163.com --- Comment #11 from Chen Lei <supercyper(a)163.com&gt; 2010-04-23 04:21:20 EDT --- Scilab 5.2 has been released. http://download.videolan.org/pub/videolan/testing/vlc-1.1.0-pre2/ -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=583236 Rex Dieter <rdieter(a)math.unl.edu&gt; changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Alias| |vlc --- Comment #13 from Rex Dieter <rdieter(a)math.unl.edu&gt; 2010-05-04 12:38:59 EDT --- Nicolas, ping, can we have an update? sync' up to 1.1.0-pre3 and address the legal and items I raised, and we should be fairly close. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=583236 --- Comment #15 from Rex Dieter <rdieter(a)math.unl.edu&gt; 2010-05-04 13:23:29 EDT --- of, course, this is F-14 territory, but I'd rather get stuff into cvs and repos for broader testing/feedback sooner rather than later. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=583236 Rex Dieter <rdieter(a)math.unl.edu&gt; changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Depends on| |518546 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=583236 --- Comment #18 from Rex Dieter <rdieter(a)math.unl.edu&gt; 2010-08-16 09:31:35 EDT --- A little, but that's not unique to vlc. The same can be said of many patent-encumbered multimedia apps and frameworks, including gstreamer and xine-lib. This has been overcome for them, and the same can (and hopefully will soon) be done for vlc too. It'll involve education and documentation in the least, and a growing institutional knowledge. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=583236 --- Comment #20 from Rex Dieter <rdieter(a)math.unl.edu&gt; 2010-09-08 10:43:14 EDT --- It's mostly about the runtime libraries and (unpatented) plugins, from my phonon-clouded POV, yes. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=583236 Nicolas Chauvet (kwizart) <kwizart(a)gmail.com&gt; changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Flag|needinfo?(kwizart(a)gmail.com | |) | --- Comment #22 from Nicolas Chauvet (kwizart) <kwizart(a)gmail.com&gt; 2010-12-02 11:41:26 EST --- As warned at Spot on Fudcond Zurich, but not on this tread actually. vlc playback hightly depends on FFmpeg. If you cannot offer to have that library in fedora that will make vlc users <<suffer>> even with free software codecs. Will you be able to read libvpx with such vlc-free ? No, because it depends on ffmpeg itself as no specific module is ever planed to be made from vlc but using the ffmpeg libavcodec decoder. Same for some chroma conversion, thoses have been removed from next vlc branch because they were duplicating with ffmpeg ones. With that said, there is no common point of comparing Gstreamer and vlc as a Framework when there is to deal with patent concern. Whereas Gstreamer pick out the single code they want from FFmpeg to make a Gstreamer module. VLC removes everything that is already present in FFmpeg to avoid duplication, so it makes a big difference. You won't solve that using modules, when such specific module doesn't even exists for the single task you want. Or such sigle modules would need to be compiled two time, (one patentless and another patent version). So, such ffmpeg-less vlc will probably not work well and be a pain to maintain, when it will have to deal with playbacks. Which is probably not what targets phonon backend. And I'm not yet sure that the server only side in fedora can be completed without functionality loss. At least, I would like to have some feedback as the conditional to make it build in a fedora mock are worked on from the current rpmfusion spec file. Just simple tasks: - It would be interesting to list which codecs work at playback, which one doesn't. - list the vlc-core modules built from a fedora mock from those built from current package. - checks from the source code of the fedora vlc-core modules if they have preprocessor macro from optional patented dependencies. - check if such module is actually usefull for something. - etc. Last, there is still a real problem with the cache plugin at runtime. (the patch from rex was at build time). It would have allowed for new vlc modules to be correctly registered. For now, new modules sometime won't be seen because vlc-cache-gen is crashing while installing a new module. (in which case yum reinstall vlc-core strangely solve things sometime). -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=583236 Bug 583236 depends on bug 518546, which changed state. Bug 518546 Summary: Review Request: libva - VAAPI video playback acceleration https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=518546 What |Old Value |New Value ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |ASSIGNED Status|ASSIGNED |MODIFIED Status|MODIFIED |ON_QA Resolution| |ERRATA Status|ON_QA |CLOSED -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=583236 Rex Dieter <rdieter(a)math.unl.edu&gt; changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|ASSIGNED |CLOSED Resolution| |NOTABUG Last Closed| |2011-09-02 11:02:11 --- Comment #25 from Rex Dieter <rdieter(a)math.unl.edu&gt; 2011-09-02 11:02:11 EDT --- OK, stick a fork in this, for now. rpmfusion it stays. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.