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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1258542
Bug ID: 1258542
Summary: Review Request: hack-fonts - A typeface designed for
source code
Product: Fedora
Version: rawhide
Component: Package Review
Severity: medium
Priority: medium
Assignee: nobody(a)fedoraproject.org
Reporter: helio(a)kde.org
QA Contact: extras-qa(a)fedoraproject.org
CC: package-review(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
Spec URL: https://heliocastro.fedorapeople.org/hack-fonts.spec
SRPM URL: https://heliocastro.fedorapeople.org/hack-fonts-2.010-1.fc22.src.rpm
Description: A typeface designed for source code
Fedora Account System Username: heliocastro
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--- Comment #1 from Adam Williamson <awilliam(a)redhat.com> ---
From the policy: "Fonts SHOULD be built from source whenever
upstream provides
them in a source format" - upstream does appear to provide
source here.
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--- Comment #2 from Helio Chissini de Castro <helio(a)kde.org> ---
Yep
They have the source, but no instructions how to build it whatsoever.
I just followed the same process used on Overpass Red Hat font, which has the
source available, but same way, only the type faces are included.
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--- Comment #3 from Arun Raghavan <arun(a)accosted.net> ---
Relevant: https://github.com/chrissimpkins/Hack/issues/85
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Christopher Meng <i(a)cicku.me> changed:
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--- Comment #4 from Christopher Meng <i(a)cicku.me> ---
NEW version released.
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--- Comment #5 from Nicolas Mailhot <nicolas.mailhot(a)laposte.net> ---
(In reply to Helio Chissini de Castro from comment #2)
Yep
They have the source, but no instructions how to build it whatsoever.
I just followed the same process used on Overpass Red Hat font, which has
the source available, but same way, only the type faces are included.
This is ridiculous, the fonts are derived from DejaVu, and DejaVu build is
completely scripted. The project just need to fork the build scripts like it
forked everything else, and decide on a naming policy
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--- Comment #6 from Fabio Alessandro Locati <fabio(a)locati.cc> ---
I really hope to see this package in the main repo soon :)
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--- Comment #7 from Shawn Starr <shawn.starr(a)rogers.com> ---
Where are we in this review? Upstream is excited to get Hack into Fedora.
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--- Comment #8 from Helio Chissini de Castro <helio(a)kde.org> ---
Updated SPEC and SRPM
https://heliocastro.fedorapeople.org/hack/hack-fonts-2.018-1.fc23.src.rpm
https://heliocastro.fedorapeople.org/hack/hack-fonts.spec
Copr repo updated as well
https://copr.fedoraproject.org/coprs/heliocastro/hack-fonts/
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--- Comment #9 from Shawn Starr <shawn.starr(a)rogers.com> ---
Any further update on this?
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Helio Chissini de Castro <helio(a)kde.org> changed:
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--- Comment #10 from Jon Ciesla <limburgher(a)gmail.com> ---
Package request has been denied with the reason: Review not approved.
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Package request has been denied with the reason: Review not approved.
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Package request has been denied with the reason: Review not approved.
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Package request has been denied with the reason: Review not approved.
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Package request has been denied with the reason: Review not approved.
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Package request has been denied with the reason: Review not approved.
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--- Comment #16 from Shawn Starr <shawn.starr(a)rogers.com> ---
I will do review since I want this font already. Expect a review for tomorrow.
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--- Comment #17 from Shawn Starr <shawn.starr(a)rogers.com> ---
I'll just take this over if nobody is doing this, will ask for a review.
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--- Comment #18 from Helio Chissini de Castro <helio(a)kde.org> ---
Thanks Shawn.
This was strangely forgotten.
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--- Comment #19 from Shawn Starr <shawn.starr(a)rogers.com> ---
Before we can even move to package this, does anyone know how this is built?
I've opened a ticket on upstream's github, Debian has this packaged but I
don't
see them doing any source builds of the fonts.
I need some clarification on our policy for this. Given Debian is even more
severe for requiring sources, maybe Fedora should follow Debian's guide on
this?
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--- Comment #20 from Helio Chissini de Castro <helio(a)kde.org> ---
Debian is using same approach as me, using the precompiled ttf/otf
The only thing is that we're deploying only ttf and debian both ones.
And i personally don't know if worth pack the web fonts.
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--- Comment #21 from Shawn Starr <shawn.starr(a)rogers.com> ---
Well, if it's acceptable to Debian surely this should be acceptable to Fedora,
if not something seems wrong with our policy...
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--- Comment #22 from Adam Williamson <awilliam(a)redhat.com> ---
Debian is not inevitably 'freer' than Fedora. Our requirements are more strict
in some ways. Just because Debian doesn't (and, AFAICT, never has) required
fonts to be compiled from source doesn't mean we're wrong in requiring this.
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--- Comment #23 from Peter Oliver <mavit(a)mavit.org.uk> ---
Upstream bug regarding building this font from source:
https://github.com/chrissimpkins/Hack/issues/227
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--- Comment #24 from Shawn Starr <shawn.starr(a)rogers.com> ---
I am in contact with upstream, they are looking at improving our ability to
build the fonts from scratch. More on this when they get back to me.
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--- Comment #25 from Randy Barlow <randy(a)electronsweatshop.com> ---
The Hack license is now acceptable for Fedora:
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/legal@lists.fedoraproject.o...
Also, FWIW I could really use the web fonts for Bodhi (which is why I wanted to
package Hack) so I would appreciate if you could include a subpackage with
those files.
I'm willing to review this package if nobody else has a "claim" on
reviewing
it.
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--- Comment #26 from Randy Barlow <randy(a)electronsweatshop.com> ---
After reading the scrollback it does sound like Shawn is lined up to do the
review so I'll defer, but I'm happy to be a standin. I'll memorize my lines.
My interpretation of the packaging rules is that SHOULD != MUST when it comes
to building the font from source. The font guidelines do use the word "MUST" in
other places so I take that to mean that this shouldn't block the package from
getting into Fedora. It's obviously better if we build the font from source,
but since there isn't a clear way to do that provided by upstream I don't think
we have to wait for https://github.com/chrissimpkins/Hack/issues/227 to be
solved to get this into Fedora. I would recommend allowing the package in with
the OTF files (and hopefully web files for me ☺) and then filing a BZ to build
from source if possible later.
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--- Comment #27 from Adam Williamson <awilliam(a)redhat.com> ---
Well, there's still the *general* packaging guidelines to consider. I don't
think the font guidelines supersede those, in fact the section on packaging
from source specifically references back to them. And they're quite specific
about when you get an exception from the requirement to build from source.
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--- Comment #28 from Shawn Starr <shawn.starr(a)rogers.com> ---
I've poked Chris on twitter, you can certainly help with packaging, it's always
good to have co-maintainers.
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--- Comment #29 from Randy Barlow <randy(a)electronsweatshop.com> ---
Adam, fair enough.
Shawn, if you don't want to deal with the web files I'd be happy to handle that
part as a co-maintainer.
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--- Comment #30 from Shawn Starr <shawn.starr(a)rogers.com> ---
Here is the tool can use to build the fonts
https://github.com/GoogleI18N/fontmake
We will need this packaged too as a dependency for building, if we want to
build them now.
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--- Comment #31 from rugk <7d28c752(a)opayq.com> ---
Any news here?
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--- Comment #32 from Shawn Starr <shawn.starr(a)rogers.com> ---
I should have something soon, i'll put up a .spec for review this week.
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--- Comment #33 from Jason Tibbitts <tibbs(a)math.uh.edu> ---
So I see this is still pending and I'm not completely sure why.
I understand that there's a desire to have these built from source, which
requires some additional dependencies. However, fonts are considered by Fedora
to be "content" and are explicitly listed as content:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines#Code_Vs_Content
The font-specific packaging guidelines mention that they should be compiled
from source because most of the time they are buildable with free, packaged
software and the existence of bytecode hinting engines does get close to the
line of what might start looking like something which isn't content. However,
it's just a "should", and lack of software needed to build it is a pretty
good
reason to violate one of those.
If anything I'd hope that the hack fonts could be imported now while work is
ongoing to package the dependencies. In the future this package could switch
over to building from source.
If the guidelines on this are confusing then I will be happy to work to get
them changed to be less confusing.
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--- Comment #34 from Shawn Starr <shawn.starr(a)rogers.com> ---
Upstream is changing how fonts are built now, which means we can use Open
Source tools to build them. I'm waiting for them to finish some of those bits
which are im progress right now.
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[Bug 1441023] Review Request: python-fontmake - Compile fonts from sources
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--- Comment #35 from Shawn Starr <shawn.starr(a)rogers.com> ---
This is currently blocked from our other dependencies needed for
python-fontmake and its sub-dependencies...
Upstream is appreciative in our efforts to get things packaged up.
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[Bug 1440971] Review Request: python-pyclipper - Cython wrapper for the
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--- Comment #36 from Shawn Starr <shawn.starr(a)rogers.com> ---
Note:
https://github.com/source-foundry/Hack/blob/master/CHANGELOG.md
3.00 is released, but we're still blocked here...
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Bug 1440971 Summary: Review Request: python-pyclipper - Cython wrapper for the C++
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--- Comment #37 from Shawn Starr <shawn.starr(a)rogers.com> ---
Not forgotten... I am seeing the reviews blocking this are getting closer to
being done.
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--- Comment #38 from Jamie Mansfield <jamie.mansfield.jm(a)gmail.com> ---
I've been working on getting Hack packaged in a satisfactory manor (I hope),
its not 100% working yet - trouble at the last step (always the way -_-).
My solution to the lack of a 'fontmake' package, is to grab the dependencies
from pip (in a virtual environment). This can easily be swapped out for the
proper 'fontmake' package when the time comes.
This isn't a perfect solution, but it does solve the issue of compiling the
font ourselves - input on this would be appreciated :) Hopefully we can get
this into the repository swiftly.
On a final note, I haven't based this work of the original spec presented in
this issue (I'd already begun working on my own) - looking at the original,
there does seem to be some outstanding issues with it that are resolved by
mine:
- The source URL seems be be wrong on the original, referring to an old version
(perhaps GitHub allows such dodgy usage)
- Some of the metadata seems to be filled in wrong, specifically with regards
to the licensing
Repository: https://pagure.io/hack-fonts
SPEC File: https://pagure.io/hack-fonts/raw/master/f/hack-fonts.spec
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--- Comment #39 from Adam Williamson <awilliam(a)redhat.com> ---
That's not acceptable under Fedora policies, I don't think. (As written it
simply would not *work*, either, when you tried an official package build, as -
by design - package builds run without network access).
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New subject: [Bug 1258542] Review Request:
hack-fonts - A typeface designed for source code
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1258542
--- Comment #40 from Jamie Mansfield <jamie.mansfield.jm(a)gmail.com> ---
Huh, wasn't aware of the package builds running without network access - will
need to wait for fontmake to be introduced to a package then :S
At least the work is easily adaptable for when that happens - I'll look into
the issue I'm having with ttfautohint and it should be a case of adding the
appropriate required package.
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New subject: [Bug 1258542] Review Request:
hack-fonts - A typeface designed for source code
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1258542
--- Comment #41 from Shawn Starr <shawn.starr(a)rogers.com> ---
Yes, this is where we are at and why I've not been able to move on this...
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