Schedule for Thursday's FPC Meeting (2014-05-15 16:00 UTC)
by James Antill
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FPC
meeting Thursday at 2014-05-15 16:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on
irc.freenode.net.
Local time information (via. rktime):
2014-05-15 09:00 Thu US/Pacific PDT
2014-05-15 12:00 Thu US/Eastern EDT
2014-05-15 16:00 Thu UTC <-
2014-05-15 17:00 Thu Europe/London BST
2014-05-15 18:00 Thu Europe/Paris CEST
2014-05-15 18:00 Thu Europe/Berlin CEST
2014-05-15 21:30 Thu Asia/Calcutta IST
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2014-05-16 00:00 Fri Asia/Singapore SGT
2014-05-16 00:00 Fri Asia/Hong_Kong HKT
2014-05-16 01:00 Fri Asia/Tokyo JST
2014-05-16 02:00 Fri Australia/Brisbane EST
Links to all tickets below can be found at:
https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/report/12
= Followups =
(approval and retirement sections already passed, /opt exception passed)
#topic #339 software collections in Fedora
.fpc 339
https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/339
#topic #382 Go Packaging Guidelines Draft
.fpc 382
https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/382
#topic #400 Exception for bundled library FoX in exciting
.fpc 400
https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/400
(needs to be reworded to match new .desktop wording)
#topic #414 Please consider requiring AppData for all desktop applications
.fpc 414
https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/414
(seems fine, needs more votes and rebase/provide answer)
#topic #418 Bundling exception for reaver-wps
.fpc 418
https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/418
(dots in name, utility of ruby without rails)
#topic #419 ruby193 in SCL
.fpc 419
https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/419
(needs fakesystemd, or another solution)
#topic #425 systemd or systemd-units should not be required if a spec
file does a %systemd_post command
.fpc 425
https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/425
= New business =
#topic #422 move an existing package to a different upstream fork
.fpc 422
https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/422
#topic #423 Bundling exception request (copylib) for TommyDS library
used in SnapRAID
.fpc 423
https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/423
#topic #424 Bundling exception request for nodejs-weak-map
.fpc 424
https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/424
#topic #426 Need policy and macros for binfmt.d file handling
.fpc 426
https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/426
#topic #427 Bundling exception requests for new julia package
.fpc 427
https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/427
#topic #428 Exception for bundling css in infrastructure application
.fpc 428
https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/428
#topic #429 Bundling exception request for apitrace: libbacktrace
.fpc 429
https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/429
#topic #430 Minor PHP Guidelines change
.fpc 430
https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/430
= Open Floor =
For more complete details, please visit each individual ticket. The
report of the agenda items can be found at:
https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/report/12
If you would like to add something to this agenda, you can reply to
this e-mail, file a new ticket at https://fedorahosted.org/fpc,
e-mail me directly, or bring it up at the end of the meeting, during
the open floor topic. Note that added topics may be deferred until
the following meeting.
9 years, 11 months
Building a non functional package just to remove dependency mess
by Miro Hrončok
Hi,
perl-Language-Expr FTBFS in rawhide and F20 (since F20 was rawhide).
There is some crazy stuff in Perl itself that prevents
perl-Regexp-Grammars to work properly and perl-Language-Expr cannot work
without proper perl-Regexp-Grammars.
This leads to perl-Language-Expr in F20 being from F19 and having
unresolved dependencies on perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.16.2).
* It makes mess when updating F19 to F20
* It emails me on daily basic
* I cannot fix it
However, new version of upstream Language::Expr is out, that disables
tests, while still not being functional. I would like to update
perl-Language-Expr in F20 and rawhide. That would lead to:
* No more mess
* No more email for me
* Nonfunctional package in Fedora
While I believe that nonfunctional package is a bad think, I believe
that anything is better than the situation now.
Any thoughts?
Links:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=992666
perl-Language-Expr: FTBFS in rawhide
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=997835
perl-Language-Expr-0.23 is available
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1009919
perl-5.18: Regexp::Grammars does not work due to bug in perl
--
Miro Hrončok
--
Phone: +420777974800
IRC: mhroncok
9 years, 11 months
Summary/Minutes from today's FPC Meeting (2014-05-08 18:00 - HH:MM UTC)
by James Antill
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#fedora-meeting-1: fpc
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Meeting started by abadger1999 at 16:04:04 UTC. The full logs are
available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2014-05-08/fpc.2014-05-...
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Meeting summary
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* Roll call (abadger1999, 16:04:50)
* #339 software collections in Fedora (abadger1999, 16:06:19)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5894#comment:7
(abadger1999, 16:10:20)
* 419 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/419 RUby SCLs (abadger1999,
16:31:18)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/414 (abadger1999,
16:47:40)
* 414 Require AppData https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/419
(abadger1999, 16:48:05)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/414 not
https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/419 … right? (geppetto,
16:48:40)
* 414 Require AppData https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/414
(abadger1999, 16:49:19)
* #411 proposal: migrate license files to %license instead of %doc
(abadger1999, 16:56:44)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/411 (abadger1999,
16:56:49)
* Migrating licenses to use %license passed (+1:5, 0:1, -1:1)
(abadger1999, 16:59:25)
* Bundling request for files from wrench.js in shell.js granted o nthe
basis that they're forks (+1:6, 0:0, -1:0) (abadger1999, 17:02:28)
* #417 sha2 library bundling in clementine (abadger1999, 17:02:35)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/417 (abadger1999,
17:02:48)
* #418 Bundling exception for reaver-wps (abadger1999, 17:06:02)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/418 (abadger1999,
17:06:08)
* #421 Update environment modules guidelines (abadger1999,
17:14:19)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/421 (abadger1999,
17:14:25)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=PackagingDrafts%
2FEnvironmentModules&diff=376234&oldid=121116
should give you all of the changes (orionp, 17:17:55)
* Updated environment modules draft with addition of Lmod location.
approved (+1:7, 0:0, -1:0) (abadger1999, 17:26:47)
* Exception for bundled libraries in icecat (abadger1999, 17:27:34)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/391 (abadger1999,
17:27:42)
* firefox has a temporary bundling exception since it has an active
security team tracking issues in their codebase. icecat has a
temporary exception since it is a fork of firefox that closely
tracks firefox's changes. We'll re-evaluate this before F22.
Passed (+1:7, 0:0, -1:0) (abadger1999, 17:36:31)
* systemd or systemd-units should not be required if a spec file does a
%systemd_post command (abadger1999, 17:38:28)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/425 (abadger1999,
17:38:32)
* Open Floor (abadger1999, 17:51:11)
Meeting ended at 18:00:09 UTC.
Action Items
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* (none)
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* geppetto (70)
* tibbs|w (29)
* Rathann (23)
* RemiFedora (17)
* limburgher (16)
* zodbot (11)
* hughsie (10)
* racor (6)
* mbooth (6)
* orionp (4)
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one less binary package
by Daniel Pocock
Hi all,
My resiprocate package produces multiple binary packages
As of v1.9.x, one of the binary packages doesn't exist any more. It is
called resiprocate-b2bua
Is it OK for me to release v1.9 (without the obsolete package) to F20?
Is there anything I can do to have resiprocate-b2bua eliminated from F20
as part of this update?
As far as I know, this B2BUA code is not widely used and it is quite
likely nobody has installed the package at all. In 7 years that this
code has been in the upstream project, we only had two queries about it
on the mailing list.
Regards,
Daniel
9 years, 11 months
Re: [Fedora-packaging] one less binary package
by Scott Talbert
On Mon, 5 May 2014, Daniel Pocock wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> My resiprocate package produces multiple binary packages
>
> As of v1.9.x, one of the binary packages doesn't exist any more. It is
> called resiprocate-b2bua
>
> Is it OK for me to release v1.9 (without the obsolete package) to F20?
>
> Is there anything I can do to have resiprocate-b2bua eliminated from F20
> as part of this update?
>
> As far as I know, this B2BUA code is not widely used and it is quite
> likely nobody has installed the package at all. In 7 years that this
> code has been in the upstream project, we only had two queries about it
> on the mailing list.
I asked a similar question a couple months back:
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/packaging/2014-March/010097.html
It turns out the recommended approach is to have one of the other packages
obsolete older versions of the package you are removing.
Scott
9 years, 11 months
Summary/Minutes from today's FPC Meeting (2014-05-01 16:00 - 17:50 UTC)
by James Antill
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#fedora-meeting-1: fpc
======================
Meeting started by abadger1999 at 16:01:41 UTC. The full logs are
available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2014-05-01/fpc.2014-05-...
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Meeting summary
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* Roll Call (abadger1999, 16:01:58)
* spot is currently double booked for travel due to having both
old-job and new-job commitments. Will be more present in the
future. (abadger1999, 16:10:23)
* #407 Bundled lib exception request (copylibs) for sha1
(abadger1999, 16:18:59)
* #408 Temporary jquery bundling exception for libserialport
(abadger1999, 16:19:17)
* #416 Temporary bundling exception for ipython (abadger1999,
16:20:57)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/416 (abadger1999,
16:21:04)
* Temporary bundling of javascript libraries in ipython passed
previously (+1:5, 0:0, -1:1). Timeframe relative to jquery
unbundling has been added. (abadger1999, 16:32:16)
* #420 PHP Guidelines change - numeric prefix (abadger1999,
16:32:35)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/420 (abadger1999,
16:32:41)
* #411 proposal: migrate license files to %license instead of %doc
(abadger1999, 16:33:35)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/411 (abadger1999,
16:33:40)
* Vote on migrate license files to %license currently at (+1:4, 0:0,
-1:1) Will seek remaining vote in ticket. (abadger1999, 16:39:14)
* #413 Bundling exception request for nodejs-shelljs (abadger1999,
16:39:29)
* Proposal: nodejs-shell's use of wrench.js code are considered forks.
No need to mark it as a bundled library. Kudos for asking us to
look at this Currently at: (+1:4, 0:0, -1:0) Will seek remaining
vote in ticket. (abadger1999, 16:45:48)
* #419 ruby193 in SCL (abadger1999, 16:48:07)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/419 (abadger1999,
16:48:13)
* #414 Please consider requiring AppData for all desktop
applications (abadger1999, 16:55:03)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/414 (abadger1999,
16:55:07)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines#Desktop_files
(abadger1999, 17:01:06)
* #425 systemd or systemd-units should not be required if a spec
file does a %systemd_post command (abadger1999, 17:15:31)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/425 (abadger1999,
17:15:35)
* ACTION: geppetto and kalev to update the ticket with problems with
removing Requires(post): systemd and possible alternatives.
(abadger1999, 17:45:51)
* Open Floor (abadger1999, 17:48:19)
Meeting ended at 17:51:41 UTC.
Action Items
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* geppetto and kalev to update the ticket with problems with removing
Requires(post): systemd and possible alternatives.
Action Items, by person
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* geppetto
* geppetto and kalev to update the ticket with problems with removing
Requires(post): systemd and possible alternatives.
* kalev
* geppetto and kalev to update the ticket with problems with removing
Requires(post): systemd and possible alternatives.
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
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* tibbs|w (52)
* geppetto (46)
* limburgher (29)
* kalev (28)
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