packaging May 2015

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Re: [Fedora-packaging] packaging Digest, Vol 123, Issue 12
by Denis Arnaud 21 May '15

21 May '15

Hi Antonio, 2015-05-21 14:00 GMT+02:00 <packaging-request(a)lists.fedoraproject.org>: > Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 18:53:31 +0200 > From: Antonio Trande <anto.trande(a)gmail.com> > Message-ID: <555CBC0B.1090201(a)gmail.com> > > Hi all. > > Do exist packaging guidelines for building boost-related C++ projects > with 'bjam' utility ? > Note that you do not have to use bjam to compile Boost-related C++ projects. You can use your favorite build system, which are well supported by the Boost RPM package, for instance CMake and GNU Autotools. An example of a CMake-built package using Boost is SOCI: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/packages/soci Kind regards Denis

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Schedule for Thursday's FPC Meeting (2015-05-21 16:00 UTC)
by James Antill 20 May '15

20 May '15

Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FPC meeting Thursday at 2015-05-21 16:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on irc.freenode.net. Local time information (via. rktime): 2015-05-21 09:00 Thu US/Pacific PDT 2015-05-21 12:00 Thu US/Eastern EDT 2015-05-21 16:00 Thu UTC <- 2015-05-21 17:00 Thu Europe/London BST 2015-05-21 18:00 Thu Europe/Paris CEST 2015-05-21 18:00 Thu Europe/Berlin CEST 2015-05-21 21:30 Thu Asia/Calcutta IST ------------------new day---------------------- 2015-05-22 00:00 Fri Asia/Singapore SGT 2015-05-22 00:00 Fri Asia/Hong_Kong HKT 2015-05-22 01:00 Fri Asia/Tokyo JST 2015-05-22 02:00 Fri Australia/Brisbane EST Links to all tickets below can be found at: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/report/13 = Followups = #topic #281 New Python Macros for Easier Packaging .fpc 281 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/281 #topic #508 New GID for openstack-neutron .fpc 508 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/508 #topic #513 Use python -Es in shbang .fpc 513 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/513 = New business = #topic #531 Discuss guidelines for use of weak dependencies .fpc 531 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/531 = Open Floor = For more complete details, please visit each individual ticket. The report of the agenda items can be found at: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/report/13 If you would like to add something to this agenda, you can reply to this e-mail, file a new ticket at https://fedorahosted.org/fpc, e-mail me directly, or bring it up at the end of the meeting, during the open floor topic. Note that added topics may be deferred until the following meeting.

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Compiling boost-related C++ projects
by Antonio Trande 20 May '15

20 May '15

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Hi all. Do exist packaging guidelines for building boost-related C++ projects with 'bjam' utility ? Are there particular rules or packages already in Fedora built with this method ? Thanks. - -- Antonio Trande mailto: sagitter 'at' fedoraproject 'dot' org http://fedoraos.wordpress.com/ https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Sagitter GPG Key: 0x565E653C Check on https://keys.fedoraproject.org/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJVXLwLAAoJEF5tK7VWXmU8/oMH/jsuBbiE48RUQuDYslswGQgf II03VWOxfHUGFJVWCLpMrBIn1zsxLk8WM6/saeQ/wGeVOSpZa80Lznnyxfx3Acxx tQ82Inb8h5VeGZDJ3YSMBdpvIRHtotwMVLV7hYhkCH+xZn34QEVzTDq3Fz7bR/Vp dhKzKFB2NPMEHut5CGaj+4yqoJZOSlhfRuk0iYT9SlvzV9rC9kZ4oK/tFM0DoYul fAmUjs4K9wRU6XFNVp8cFpRLsVm3+4LiT9mhN3qa6NKpuB9///hyoT6H2Hq0hTIo Jvhqh/zROh9BIRSlu7ajbvfeMSYXXkHTOAiYxsH2Ag8a4Vld81xpDhDM9yFfjJM= =OxAo -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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New Rpm-ecosystem Mailing List
by Florian Festi 20 May '15

20 May '15

Hi! tl;td: Join at http://lists.rpm.org/mailman/listinfo/rpm-ecosystem if your interested in any part of the rpm ecosystem. While there are quite some mailing lists already that deal with the different tools around and including rpm we realized that there is no good place to discuss issues that involve multiple parts of (our own) package handling stack even less so to stay in contact with other rpm based solutions. To solve this we create a new mailing list: rpm-ecosystem(a)lists.rpm.org Normal user questions and development talk is supposed to stay on the per project mailing lists. The new list is for questions like: * How do other implementations handle specific problems? * Is this new feature interesting for downstream distributions? * How do the different packaging guidelines treat a special topic? * Anyone there to support our demand for this new rpm feature? And it is for topics like: * Packaging guide lines * RPM features * Build systems and compose tools * Dependency solvers, installers and updaters * RPM based image creation / non rpm based updates for rpm based distributions In short: It is meant to bind the rpm universe together. Join at http://lists.rpm.org/mailman/listinfo/rpm-ecosystem Please forward this mail to anyone that might be interested - especially to rpm related sub projects and groups. Thanks! Florian -- Red Hat GmbH, http://www.de.redhat.com/ Registered seat: Grasbrunn, Commercial register: Amtsgericht Muenchen, HRB 153243, Managing Directors: Charles Cachera, Michael Cunningham, Michael O'Neill, Charles Peters

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SeqAn downgrading
by Antonio Trande 14 May '15

14 May '15

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Hi all. To this day, the release 2.0.0 of 'SeqAn' [1] seems incompatible with ARM architectures [2]. Latest release fully built in Fedora is seqan-1.4.2-9 [3] but its tests are not all executable in aarch64 [2], so i need to fix it. Is it a problem if i downgrade the current release of SeqAn on pkgdb until the new 2.0.0 is fully ready ? [1] http://www.seqan.de/ [2] http://arm.koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=18320 [3] http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=18665 - -- Antonio Trande mailto: sagitter 'at' fedoraproject 'dot' org http://fedoraos.wordpress.com/ https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Sagitter GPG Key: 0x565E653C Check on https://keys.fedoraproject.org/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEbBAEBCAAGBQJVVMv6AAoJEF5tK7VWXmU8Kb0H+M+3g6Ho1FuHmUUD4uyBH7/z Qb5rffAmpd2excmHbrhPGDHZoAf55UQBXMv644P/e3fMVqWPeRLKVw4V1g0T1kqZ U5DPrVY77fHyzB/AYKRqPlKdYoaPACgFboZNwtSEWklcXU6uLRdOwnEc8qjbeRnK oWrBW90mRWBc1iFHYZ0vYwu2WpFmOKWff7ivPR7eQiYlKfcuhQZJszI/2r+MyFBw JSkwWHSWuebYm8dkD0/rlbFooD8iK/7EXW4fdt0WZ/StF8/8jgc0oPgmnE7Gpga+ uyubc22pK4dD2t9MKRuQHw5BwA1dWpdiGqvXaqoKNlHmiuBA/WJjcdmQd5SfMg== =efMu -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Summary/Minutes from today's FPC Meeting (2015-06-14 16:00 - 17:15 UTC)
by James Antill 14 May '15

14 May '15

====================== #fedora-meeting-1: fpc ====================== Meeting started by geppetto at 16:01:41 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2015-05-14/fpc.2015-05-14… . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call (geppetto, 16:01:41) * Schedule (geppetto, 16:06:24) * LINK: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/packaging/2015-May/010648.html (geppetto, 16:06:28) * #530 request copylib exception for dcraw.c (geppetto, 16:06:58) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/530 (geppetto, 16:06:59) * ACTION: Everything using it should add a bundled(dcraw), until it's a true fork. (geppetto, 16:21:50) * ACTION: It's way too big and messy to be classified as a copylib though, any potential users should probably look at moving to libraw (geppetto, 16:22:25) * #528 Allow Mono 4.0 to be bootstrapped with monolite (geppetto, 16:22:39) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/528 (geppetto, 16:22:40) * ACTION: Reboostrap mono with monolite binaries (+1:7, 0:0, -1:0) (geppetto, 16:25:01) * #527 AppData for Application Addons (geppetto, 16:25:12) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/527 (geppetto, 16:25:13) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=User%3AVondruch% 2FDraftAppDataGuidelines&diff=412575&oldid=412571 (geppetto, 16:25:57) * ACTION: AppData for application Addons (+1:6, 0:0, -1:0) (geppetto, 16:37:46) * Open Floor (geppetto, 16:39:12) * #526 Mandatory python3 packaging when upstream supports python3 (geppetto, 16:58:57) * ACTION: Mandatory python3 packaging when upstream supports python3 (+1:5, 0:0, -1:0) (geppetto, 16:59:54) * Open Floor (geppetto, 17:00:10) * LINK: https://github.com/fedora-python/packaging-guidelines/ (tibbs|w, 17:00:16) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Tibbs/BuildReqDraft (tibbs|w, 17:04:19) * #497 Clean up BuildRequires section; don't try to define the minimal build env (geppetto, 17:04:30) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Tibbs/BuildReqDraft (geppetto, 17:04:36) * ACTION: Clean up BuildRequires section; don't try to define the minimal build env (+1:5, 0:0, -1:0) (geppetto, 17:08:40) * Open Floor (geppetto, 17:08:49) Meeting ended at 17:15:32 UTC. Action Items ------------ * Everything using it should add a bundled(dcraw), until it's a true fork. * It's way too big and messy to be classified as a copylib though, any potential users should probably look at moving to libraw * Reboostrap mono with monolite binaries (+1:7, 0:0, -1:0) * AppData for application Addons (+1:6, 0:0, -1:0) * Mandatory python3 packaging when upstream supports python3 (+1:5, 0:0, -1:0) * Clean up BuildRequires section; don't try to define the minimal build env (+1:5, 0:0, -1:0) Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * Everything using it should add a bundled(dcraw), until it's a true fork. * It's way too big and messy to be classified as a copylib though, any potential users should probably look at moving to libraw * Reboostrap mono with monolite binaries (+1:7, 0:0, -1:0) * AppData for application Addons (+1:6, 0:0, -1:0) * Mandatory python3 packaging when upstream supports python3 (+1:5, 0:0, -1:0) * Clean up BuildRequires section; don't try to define the minimal build env (+1:5, 0:0, -1:0) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * tibbs|w (117) * geppetto (95) * mbooth (18) * zodbot (17) * limburgher (17) * tomspur (13) * orionp (9) * Rathann (5) * tibbs (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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Schedule for Thursday's FPC Meeting (2015-05-14 16:00 UTC) Follow ups: 3 New: 3
by James Antill 13 May '15

13 May '15

Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FPC meeting Thursday at 2015-05-14 16:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on irc.freenode.net. Local time information (via. rktime): 2015-05-14 09:00 Thu US/Pacific PDT 2015-05-14 12:00 Thu US/Eastern EDT 2015-05-14 16:00 Thu UTC <- 2015-05-14 17:00 Thu Europe/London BST 2015-05-14 18:00 Thu Europe/Paris CEST 2015-05-14 18:00 Thu Europe/Berlin CEST 2015-05-14 21:30 Thu Asia/Calcutta IST ------------------new day---------------------- 2015-05-15 00:00 Fri Asia/Singapore SGT 2015-05-15 00:00 Fri Asia/Hong_Kong HKT 2015-05-15 01:00 Fri Asia/Tokyo JST 2015-05-15 02:00 Fri Australia/Brisbane EST Links to all tickets below can be found at: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/report/13 = Followups = #topic #281 New Python Macros for Easier Packaging .fpc 281 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/281 #topic #508 New GID for openstack-neutron .fpc 508 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/508 #topic #513 Use python -Es in shbang .fpc 513 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/513 = New business = #topic #527 AppData for Application Addons .fpc 527 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/527 #topic #528 Allow Mono 4.0 to be bootstrapped with monolite .fpc 528 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/528 #topic #530 request copylib exception for dcraw.c .fpc 530 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/530 = Open Floor = For more complete details, please visit each individual ticket. The report of the agenda items can be found at: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/report/13 If you would like to add something to this agenda, you can reply to this e-mail, file a new ticket at https://fedorahosted.org/fpc, e-mail me directly, or bring it up at the end of the meeting, during the open floor topic. Note that added topics may be deferred until the following meeting.

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Proposal: Remove BuildRequires: exceptions from the guidelines
by Jason L Tibbitts III 08 May '15

08 May '15

TL;DR: There's a proposal for nuking the list of BuildRequires exceptions from the packaging guidelines. Important note: this is just an idea. We're not currently changing the guidelines based on this. Nothing is set in stone. It may end up that nothing happens. Don't panic. A couple of times recently, people have floated proposals to the FPC about removing certain things from the buildroot. (Specifically, perl and gcc*.) And the bottom line for these is that while FPC tries to maintain a list of BuildRequires: exceptions, this is really up to releng and whatever rpm happens to pull in at any particular time. This means that whatever list FPC maintains, it's going to get outdated eventually, and giving packagers the idea that they don't have to actually specify all of their dependencies restricts what releng can do and, perhaps, what dependencies the RPM package can drop without breaking builds. So, the generally stated proposal: I would like to get FPC out of the business of specifying this list of exceptions, and instead just indicate that packagers should completely specify their dependencies. My specific proposal can be seen in https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/497; the draft is at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Tibbs/BuildReqDraft2. You can use the history tab to see the differences between that and the current guidelines. Now, the real issue is in what packagers can depend upon. Obviously you have RPM and an environment necessary to build a package (which means you have to have a shell to execute the scripts that make up the RPM sections, and redhat-rpm-config, and whatever RPM happens to use to execute %patch, which I guess could be some internal library if the RPM devs wanted). But what else? That's the open question. The draft currently says: --- You may assume that you have everything necessary for RPM to function and process your spec file (so of course RPM is present, along with redhat-rpm-config and what is necessary for RPM to apply patches, unpack archives, and run the shell scripts which make up the spec file sections.) You should not assume any other packages are present, as RPM dependencies and anything brought into the buildroot by the build system may change over time. --- Honestly, I'm not completely satisfied with that but I can't come up with anything better. Polite discussion is welcomed and encouraged. - J<

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Summary/Minutes from today's FPC Meeting (2015-05-07 16:00 - 17:20 UTC)
by James Antill 07 May '15

07 May '15

====================== #fedora-meeting-1: fpc ====================== Meeting started by geppetto at 16:01:51 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2015-05-07/fpc.2015-05-07… . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call (geppetto, 16:01:51) * Schedule (geppetto, 16:09:31) * LINK: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/packaging/2015-May/010638.html (geppetto, 16:09:36) * #480 Packaging guidelines for consistent PKCS#11 usage (geppetto, 16:10:04) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/480 (geppetto, 16:10:04) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/showdependencytree.cgi?id=PKCS11 (dwmw2, 16:22:30) * ACTION: Packaging guidelines for consistent PKCS#11 usage (+1:5, 0:0, -1:0) (geppetto, 16:34:33) * #524 static UID for ceph (geppetto, 16:35:34) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/524 (geppetto, 16:35:40) * ACTION: static UID for Ceph (+1:5, 0:0, -1:0) (geppetto, 16:42:27) * #520 [Guidelines Draft] Per-Product Configuration Defaults v2 (geppetto, 16:42:42) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/520 (geppetto, 16:42:42) * #513 Use python -Es in shbang (geppetto, 16:44:07) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/513 (geppetto, 16:44:07) * #508 New GID for openstack-neutron (geppetto, 16:44:50) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/508 (geppetto, 16:44:50) * #281 New Python Macros for Easier Packaging (geppetto, 16:49:35) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/281 (geppetto, 16:49:35) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Python_3_as_Default (tibbs|w, 16:59:54) * Open Floor (geppetto, 17:07:33) Meeting ended at 17:21:03 UTC. Action Items ------------ * Packaging guidelines for consistent PKCS#11 usage (+1:5, 0:0, -1:0) * static UID for Ceph (+1:5, 0:0, -1:0) Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * Packaging guidelines for consistent PKCS#11 usage (+1:5, 0:0, -1:0) * static UID for Ceph (+1:5, 0:0, -1:0) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * geppetto (91) * tibbs|w (88) * dwmw2 (22) * zodbot (14) * Rathann|Mobile (11) * mbooth (7) * orionp (6) * sgallagh (6) * rdieter (5) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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Schedule for Thursday's FPC Meeting (2015-05-07 16:00 UTC) Followups: 6 New: 0
by James Antill 07 May '15

07 May '15

Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FPC meeting Thursday at 2015-05-07 16:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on irc.freenode.net. Local time information (via. rktime): 2015-05-07 09:00 Thu US/Pacific PDT 2015-05-07 12:00 Thu US/Eastern EDT 2015-05-07 16:00 Thu UTC <- 2015-05-07 17:00 Thu Europe/London BST 2015-05-07 18:00 Thu Europe/Paris CEST 2015-05-07 18:00 Thu Europe/Berlin CEST 2015-05-07 21:30 Thu Asia/Calcutta IST ------------------new day---------------------- 2015-05-08 00:00 Fri Asia/Singapore SGT 2015-05-08 00:00 Fri Asia/Hong_Kong HKT 2015-05-08 01:00 Fri Asia/Tokyo JST 2015-05-08 02:00 Fri Australia/Brisbane EST Links to all tickets below can be found at: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/report/13 = Followups = #topic #281 New Python Macros for Easier Packaging .fpc 281 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/281 #topic #480 Packaging guidelines for consistent PKCS#11 usage .fpc 480 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/480 #topic #508 New GID for openstack-neutron .fpc 508 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/508 #topic #513 Use python -Es in shbang .fpc 513 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/513 #topic #520 [Guidelines Draft] Per-Product Configuration Defaults v2 .fpc 520 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/520 #topic #524 static UID for ceph .fpc 524 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/524 = Open Floor = For more complete details, please visit each individual ticket. The report of the agenda items can be found at: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/report/13 If you would like to add something to this agenda, you can reply to this e-mail, file a new ticket at https://fedorahosted.org/fpc, e-mail me directly, or bring it up at the end of the meeting, during the open floor topic. Note that added topics may be deferred until the following meeting.

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