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Summary/Minutes from today's FPC Meeting (2016-06-30 16:00 - 17:25 UTC)
by James Antill 30 Jun '16

30 Jun '16

====================== #fedora-meeting-1: fpc ====================== Meeting started by geppetto at 16:00:55 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2016-06-30/fpc.2016- 06-30-16.00.log.html . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call (geppetto, 16:00:56) * Schedule (geppetto, 16:08:48) * LINK: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/packaging@lists.fedor aproject.org/message/4EWMA4SFNIKXAMCJVSZVUQXRV6SOJYR6/ (geppetto, 16:08:51) * #629 Handling directories under /var/lock and /var/run in %files and base image (geppetto, 16:10:43) * #610 Packaging guidelines: Check upstream tarball signatures (geppetto, 16:12:44) * ACTION: tibbs Push it to rawhide, so people can try using it (geppetto, 16:17:48) * #558 Application/Library distinction and package (geppetto, 16:25:21) * ACTION: tibbs Draft change for difference between module/plugin/whatever and an application. (geppetto, 16:28:26) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Automatic_Provides_for_Pytho n_RPM_Packages (tibbs|w, 16:36:13) * Open Floor (geppetto, 16:51:51) * racor and tibbs might not be around the next 4-5 meetings or so (geppetto, 16:58:17) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/628 (tibbs|w, 17:17:01) * #628 Reserve UID/GID for cassandra (geppetto, 17:18:53) * ACTION: Reserve UID/GID for cassandra (+1:5, 0:0, -1:1) (geppetto, 17:25:42) Meeting ended at 17:28:58 UTC. Action Items ------------ * tibbs Push it to rawhide, so people can try using it * tibbs Draft change for difference between module/plugin/whatever and an application. * Reserve UID/GID for cassandra (+1:5, 0:0, -1:1) Action Items, by person ----------------------- * tibbs * tibbs Push it to rawhide, so people can try using it * tibbs Draft change for difference between module/plugin/whatever and an application. * **UNASSIGNED** * Reserve UID/GID for cassandra (+1:5, 0:0, -1:1) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * tibbs|w (113) * geppetto (99) * limburgher (18) * racor (17) * zodbot (14) * orionp (4) * mbooth_ (2) * tibbs (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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Schedule for Thursday's FPC Meeting (2016-06-30 16:00 UTC)
by James Antill 29 Jun '16

29 Jun '16

Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FPC meeting Thursday at 2016-06-30 16:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on irc.freenode.net. Local time information (via. rktime): 2016-06-30 09:00 Thu US/Pacific PDT 2016-06-30 12:00 Thu US/Eastern EDT 2016-06-30 16:00 Thu UTC <- 2016-06-30 17:00 Thu Europe/London BST 2016-06-30 18:00 Thu Europe/Paris CEST 2016-06-30 18:00 Thu Europe/Berlin CEST 2016-06-30 21:30 Thu Asia/Calcutta IST ------------------new day---------------------- 2016-07-01 00:00 Fri Asia/Singapore SGT 2016-07-01 00:00 Fri Asia/Hong_Kong HKT 2016-07-01 01:00 Fri Asia/Tokyo JST 2016-07-01 02:00 Fri Australia/Brisbane AEST Links to all tickets below can be found at: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/report/13 = Followups = #topic #558 Application/Library distinction and package splitting .fpc 558 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/558 #topic #566 RPM file triggers .fpc 566 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/566 #topic #610 Packaging guidelines: Check upstream tarball signatures .fpc 610 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/610 #topic #629 Handling directories under /var/lock and /var/run in %files and base image .fpc 629 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/629 #topic #633 Document unwritten rule about guideline exceptions .fpc 633 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/633 = Open Floor = For more complete details, please visit each individual ticket. The report of the agenda items can be found at: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/report/13 If you would like to add something to this agenda, you can reply to this e-mail, file a new ticket at https://fedorahosted.org/fpc, e-mail me directly, or bring it up at the end of the meeting, during the open floor topic. Note that added topics may be deferred until the following meeting.

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Summary/Minutes from today's FPC Meeting (2016-06-23 16:00 - 17:40 UTC)
by James Antill 23 Jun '16

23 Jun '16

====================== #fedora-meeting-1: fpc ====================== Meeting started by geppetto at 16:00:05 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2016-06-23/fpc.2016- 06-23-16.00.log.html . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call (geppetto, 16:00:06) * Schedule (geppetto, 16:11:42) * LINK: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/packaging@lists.fedor aproject.org/message/DJGQZIMQFABLETAMWARIR6WPW2U7DFDZ/ (geppetto, 16:11:47) * #630 selinux requirements in review and guidelines (geppetto, 16:12:06) * Need real info on filing bugs. (geppetto, 16:24:50) * ACTION: A proper draft is required. (geppetto, 16:25:04) * #631 Usage of BuildRequires: /usr/bin/desktop-file- validate (geppetto, 16:25:13) * Wording seems fine to us, if you have a change you think is better we'll be happy to review it (geppetto, 16:33:55) * #633 Document unwritten rule about guideline exceptions (geppetto, 16:34:11) * ACTION: Document unwritten rule about guideline exceptions (+1:8, 0:0, -1:0) (geppetto, 16:42:30) * #629 Handling dirs. under /var/lock and /var/run in %files and images (geppetto, 16:43:00) * ACTION: Do minor cleanup of /var/run and /var/lock to /run and /run/lock (+1:5, 0:0, -1:0) (geppetto, 17:05:28) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/439 has a comment about %ghost being ill-advised (orionp, 17:05:52) * You can ask systemd package that owns the tmpfiles.d conf. for /var/lock to also have it in %files (geppetto, 17:16:22) * Also ping the upstream container tools about fixing their tools for this issue. (geppetto, 17:16:53) * #628 Reserve UID/GID for cassandra (geppetto, 17:17:39) * LINK: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_Cassandra (limburgher, 17:29:02) * LINK: https://docs.datastax.com/en/cassandra/1.2/cassandra/architecture/a rchitecturePlanningAntiPatterns_c.html (tibbs|w, 17:30:23) * Can you provide more information please? As far as we can see Cassandra shouldn't be used over NFS, given the upstream docs. (geppetto, 17:34:56) * Saying that giving a soft static uid shouldn't be a problem if you have a need for it. (geppetto, 17:35:33) * Open floor (geppetto, 17:35:43) Meeting ended at 17:38:32 UTC. Action Items ------------ * A proper draft is required. * Document unwritten rule about guideline exceptions (+1:8, 0:0, -1:0) * Do minor cleanup of /var/run and /var/lock to /run and /run/lock (+1:5, 0:0, -1:0) Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * A proper draft is required. * Document unwritten rule about guideline exceptions (+1:8, 0:0, -1:0) * Do minor cleanup of /var/run and /var/lock to /run and /run/lock (+1:5, 0:0, -1:0) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * tibbs|w (103) * geppetto (95) * orionp (19) * zodbot (16) * limburgher (16) * Rathann (14) * mbooth_ (7) * tomspur (7) * racor (3) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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introduction toogley | packaging intellij idea
by toogley 23 Jun '16

23 Jun '16

Introduction ------------ Hello. I'm Tobias Angele (20 years old) and I want to contribute to fedora packaging the intellij idea package. I've made already some (really small) contributions, e.g. to debian: https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/collab-maint/wicd.git/log/?qt=author&q=toog… and https://github.com/AndreaCrotti/yasnippet-snippets/commits?author=toogley . Additionally, I have some experience in Java(with maven)/C#/bash/object-orientated programming, but nothing big. * Github: https://github.com/toogley * GPG Key: https://keys.fedoraproject.org/pks/lookup?search=0xf20c5878e65b3b3a&op=vind… * IRC Nick: freenode -> toogley * FAS: toogley, FPCA is signed Packaging ------------ I've found http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/rpms/intellij-idea.git/ - I guess I can base my work on the spec file there, which I'm currently trying to understand, update and build. I think the best option for me is to create a github repo for packaging in the beginning. (as you probably don't trust me :D) I have already read or am reading https://fedoramagazine.org/day-life-fedora-packager/ and https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_create_an_RPM_package * Are there some important documents I should additionally read? * Do you have some tips for starting packaging, or dealing with the legacy status of the package? * I'm used to gpg-sign my git commits/tags by default. Should I continue this practice while packaging? I've read somewhere that some people don't want that, therefore my question. Thanks :)

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Schedule for Thursday's FPC Meeting (2016-06-23 16:00 UTC)
by James Antill 22 Jun '16

22 Jun '16

Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FPC meeting Thursday at 2016-06-23 16:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on irc.freenode.net. Local time information (via. rktime): 2016-06-23 09:00 Thu US/Pacific PDT 2016-06-23 12:00 Thu US/Eastern EDT 2016-06-23 16:00 Thu UTC <- 2016-06-23 17:00 Thu Europe/London BST 2016-06-23 18:00 Thu Europe/Paris CEST 2016-06-23 18:00 Thu Europe/Berlin CEST 2016-06-23 21:30 Thu Asia/Calcutta IST ------------------new day---------------------- 2016-06-24 00:00 Fri Asia/Singapore SGT 2016-06-24 00:00 Fri Asia/Hong_Kong HKT 2016-06-24 01:00 Fri Asia/Tokyo JST 2016-06-24 02:00 Fri Australia/Brisbane AEST Links to all tickets below can be found at: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/report/13 = Followups = #topic #558 Application/Library distinction and package splitting .fpc 558 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/558 #topic #566 RPM file triggers .fpc 566 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/566 #topic #610 Packaging guidelines: Check upstream tarball signatures .fpc 610 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/610 #topic #628 Reserve UID/GID for cassandra .fpc 628 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/628 #topic #629 Handling dirs. under /var/lock and /var/run in %files and images .fpc 629 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/629 = New business = #topic #630 selinux requirements in review and guidelines .fpc 630 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/630 #topic #631 Usage of BuildRequires: /usr/bin/desktop-file- validate .fpc 631 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/631 #topic #633 Document unwritten rule about guideline exceptions .fpc 633 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/633 = Open Floor = For more complete details, please visit each individual ticket. The report of the agenda items can be found at: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/report/13 If you would like to add something to this agenda, you can reply to this e-mail, file a new ticket at https://fedorahosted.org/fpc, e-mail me directly, or bring it up at the end of the meeting, during the open floor topic. Note that added topics may be deferred until the following meeting.

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Schedule for Thursday's FPC Meeting (2016-06-16 16:00 UTC)
by James Antill 16 Jun '16

16 Jun '16

Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FPC meeting Thursday at 2016-06-16 16:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on irc.freenode.net. Local time information (via. rktime): 2016-06-16 09:00 Thu US/Pacific PDT 2016-06-16 12:00 Thu US/Eastern EDT 2016-06-16 16:00 Thu UTC <- 2016-06-16 17:00 Thu Europe/London BST 2016-06-16 18:00 Thu Europe/Paris CEST 2016-06-16 18:00 Thu Europe/Berlin CEST 2016-06-16 21:30 Thu Asia/Calcutta IST ------------------new day---------------------- 2016-06-17 00:00 Fri Asia/Singapore SGT 2016-06-17 00:00 Fri Asia/Hong_Kong HKT 2016-06-17 01:00 Fri Asia/Tokyo JST 2016-06-17 02:00 Fri Australia/Brisbane AEST Links to all tickets below can be found at: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/report/13 = Followups = #topic #558 Application/Library distinction and package splitting .fpc 558 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/558 #topic #566 RPM file triggers .fpc 566 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/566 #topic #610 Packaging guidelines: Check upstream tarball signatures .fpc 610 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/610 #topic #628 Reserve UID/GID for cassandra .fpc 628 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/628 #topic #629 Handling dirs. under /var/lock and /var/run in %files and images .fpc 629 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/629 = Open Floor = For more complete details, please visit each individual ticket. The report of the agenda items can be found at: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/report/13 If you would like to add something to this agenda, you can reply to this e-mail, file a new ticket at https://fedorahosted.org/fpc, e-mail me directly, or bring it up at the end of the meeting, during the open floor topic. Note that added topics may be deferred until the following meeting.

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Does FPC have any policy about packaging when the upstream have chosen a deliberately offensive name for their application/library?
by Anne Mulhern 14 Jun '16

14 Jun '16

- mulhern

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Re: Hacks for multilib unclean C headers
by Dan Horák 10 Jun '16

10 Jun '16

On Tue, 07 Jun 2016 17:30:58 +0200 Pavel Raiskup <praiskup(a)redhat.com> wrote: > Just wanted to ping here about one packaging helper [1], which is > stuck in some (possibly infinite/priority) queue without any review. > > In database packages we have that multilib hack for a very long time, > mostly C&P'ed among various spec files. Having this in > redhat-rpm-config could make that more solid, maintained at one place. > > [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1286193 > [2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackagingDrafts/MultilibTricks > > It is probably possible to package this separately, so I'm ready to > have a special package for database purposes. But who knows, maybe > it is a time to drop that idea at all? more automation or simplification helps the maintainers, so I'm +1 here Can we get FPC opinion on this? Dan

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Summary/Minutes from today's FPC Meeting (YYYY-MM-DD 16:00 - 17:10 UTC)
by James Antill 09 Jun '16

09 Jun '16

====================== #fedora-meeting-1: fpc ====================== Meeting started by geppetto at 16:02:30 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2016-06-09/fpc.2016- 06-09-16.02.log.html . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call (geppetto, 16:02:30) * Schedule (geppetto, 16:10:33) * LINK: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/packaging@lists.fedor aproject.org/message/6XPLTOUDEASTLLXUGDUXZDVZPNVPYT4K/ (geppetto, 16:10:45) * #629 Handling dirs. under /var/lock and /var/run in %files and images (geppetto, 16:10:56) * ACTION: geppetto Draft for %ghost files when possible, on tmpfs. (geppetto, 16:30:39) * /run/lock should just get fixed, maybe added to filesystem maybe somewhere else. (geppetto, 16:31:18) * It appears all the packages using /run/lock/foo also own dir the "/run/lock/", which is a workaround for this issue. (geppetto, 16:50:59) * Open Floor (geppetto, 16:51:38) * ACTION: geppetto Book meeting channel for 2 hours (geppetto, 17:08:39) Meeting ended at 17:10:48 UTC. Action Items ------------ * geppetto Draft for %ghost files when possible, on tmpfs. * geppetto Book meeting channel for 2 hours Action Items, by person ----------------------- * geppetto * geppetto Draft for %ghost files when possible, on tmpfs. * geppetto Book meeting channel for 2 hours * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * geppetto (67) * tibbs|w (59) * Rathann|Mobile (23) * zodbot (9) * nirik (5) * racor (4) * jkurik (4) * linuxmodder (1) * mbooth (1) * tibbs (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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Schedule for Thursday's FPC Meeting (2016-06-10 16:00 UTC)
by James Antill 09 Jun '16

09 Jun '16

Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FPC meeting Thursday at 2016-06-10 16:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on irc.freenode.net. Local time information (via. rktime): 2016-06-10 09:00 Fri US/Pacific PDT 2016-06-10 12:00 Fri US/Eastern EDT 2016-06-10 16:00 Fri UTC <- 2016-06-10 17:00 Fri Europe/London BST 2016-06-10 18:00 Fri Europe/Paris CEST 2016-06-10 18:00 Fri Europe/Berlin CEST 2016-06-10 21:30 Fri Asia/Calcutta IST ------------------new day---------------------- 2016-06-11 00:00 Sat Asia/Singapore SGT 2016-06-11 00:00 Sat Asia/Hong_Kong HKT 2016-06-11 01:00 Sat Asia/Tokyo JST 2016-06-11 02:00 Sat Australia/Brisbane AEST Links to all tickets below can be found at: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/report/13 = Followups = #topic #558 Application/Library distinction and package splitting .fpc 558 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/558 #topic #566 RPM file triggers .fpc 566 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/566 #topic #610 Packaging guidelines: Check upstream tarball signatures .fpc 610 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/610 #topic #628 Reserve UID/GID for cassandra .fpc 628 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/628 = New business = #topic #629 Handling dirs. under /var/lock and /var/run in %files and images .fpc 629 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/629 = Open Floor = For more complete details, please visit each individual ticket. The report of the agenda items can be found at: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/report/13 If you would like to add something to this agenda, you can reply to this e-mail, file a new ticket at https://fedorahosted.org/fpc, e-mail me directly, or bring it up at the end of the meeting, during the open floor topic. Note that added topics may be deferred until the following meeting.

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