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This group is the ideal group to find the *right* solution, and to implement that solution in their domains. Coming up with a successful standard that is used by Fedora Extras, RPMForge, and every other major RPM repository in the world will apply pressure to Fedora Core and RHEL to follow suit.
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On Sat, 26 Feb 2005, Tom 'spot' Callaway wrote:
On Sat, 2005-02-26 at 11:09 +0100, Axel Thimm wrote:
Is this list really only for Fedora Extras, formerly fedora.us practices? Can't it be extended to a larger universe?
My little piece of the universe is Fedora Extras. That doesn't mean other people can't use these standards for their pieces of the universe. It also doesn't mean that I'm ignoring everything else, feedback is welcome from everyone.
This was the main obstruction that created the hasm two years ago between fedora.us and the rest of the world. It would be nice to attack this issue w/o isolating again any parties.
My primary goal is to create a set of packaging standards and guidelines that will encourage more people to package for Fedora Extras. Inevitably, I won't be able to make everyone happy, but I am interested in making the majority happy enough to contribute.
What about Fedora Core itself? It doesn't make sense to have Fedora Core and Extras living side by side having different naming/versioning policies.
You're right. Which is why I'm glad we have some @redhat.com folks who have control over the Fedora Core packaging standards on this list. My hope is that if the Fedora Extras standards are accepted, used, and successful, it will transfer over to Fedora Core.
In fact I would go as far as to say that a sane set of packaging practices should not only be applicable to Fedora, but to RHEL as well (whether RHEL adopts it is another topic, but it should not be cut off from the beginning), and - why not - even outside the Red Hat rpm world.
I don't see any reason why anyone else shouldn't adopt these guidelines for packaging. We're definitely not saying "ONLY FEDORA EXTRAS MAY PACKAGE PACKAGES LIKE THIS".
A lot of issues discussed here already have good solutions and defacto standards in 3rd party repos for Fedora Core or other distributions.
Great! Please help me out, since I don't know of these other solutions and standards, and point me to them when I start reinventing the wheel.
I'd like to finally see a common effort on this and see the unneccessary barriers break to pieces. :)
I agree. Just keep in mind that I'm NOT out to get anyone, and I'm not trying to pee in anyone's swimming pool, I'm just trying to document simple standards that are easy to follow. :)
~spot
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