9:22 p.m.
Hi,
I would like to propose adding the following text to our
"Package Naming Guidelines".
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/NamingGuidelines
'''
== Fonts Packages ==
Font packages should be named with the upstream name appended with `-fonts`.
Examples:
{{{
bitmap-fonts
dejavu-lgc-fonts
ghostscript-fonts
urw-fonts
xorg-x11-fonts
}}}
'''
Should the text discuss what to do when the upstream name contains the
word "font" already?
See
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-maintainers/2007-February/msg00794...
and
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-maintainers/2007-March/msg00262.html
for some recent discussion of <upstreamname>-fonts vs fonts-<language>
and "-fonts" vs "-font" for singlet font packages.
Comments or objections?
Jens
ps We might even consider renaming some of our "fonts-*" packages to
follow this naming scheme for F8.
9:24 p.m.
New subject: Packaging/ScriptletSnippets Fonts section needs to mention Buildrequires
Hi,
The Fonts scriptlet on Packaging/ScriptletSnippets should list the
following requires too:
Requires(post): fontconfig
Requires(postun): fontconfig
Jens
12:58 a.m.
New subject: Packaging/ScriptletSnippets Fonts section needs to mention Buildrequires
Le mardi 10 avril 2007 à 12:24 +1000, Jens Petersen a écrit :
The Fonts scriptlet on Packaging/ScriptletSnippets should list the
following requires too:
Requires(post): fontconfig
Requires(postun): fontconfig
Nope. Their whole point is not to add a fontconfig dep to font packages
--
Nicolas Mailhot
2:57 a.m.
New subject: Packaging/ScriptletSnippets Fonts section needs to mention Buildrequires
Le Mer 11 avril 2007 03:54, Jens Petersen a écrit :
Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
> Nope. Their whole point is not to add a fontconfig dep to font packages
Should bugs be filed against all fonts packages that currently require
fontconfig?
IMHO yes. When this was formalized (around Bitstream Vera inclusion in
fedora.us then FC) non adherence of font packages to any specific renderer
was an explicit objective. (I'm speaking of truetype/opentype packages
there, core fonts are a lost cause).
The most one can do is conflict with old fontconfig packages if the rpm
dumps a conf file in /etc/fonts, since fontconfig syntax has evolved over
time.
--
Nicolas Mailhot
4:08 a.m.
New subject: Packaging/ScriptletSnippets Fonts section needs to mention Buildrequires
Hi Nicolas,
On 4/11/07, Nicolas Mailhot <nicolas.mailhot(a)laposte.net> wrote:
Le Mer 11 avril 2007 03:54, Jens Petersen a écrit :
> Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
>> Nope. Their whole point is not to add a fontconfig dep to font packages
>
> Should bugs be filed against all fonts packages that currently require
> fontconfig?
IMHO yes. When this was formalized (around Bitstream Vera inclusion in
fedora.us then FC) non adherence of font packages to any specific renderer
was an explicit objective. (I'm speaking of truetype/opentype packages
there, core fonts are a lost cause).
The most one can do is conflict with old fontconfig packages if the rpm
dumps a conf file in /etc/fonts, since fontconfig syntax has evolved over
time.
Can you please provide more information on this issue of not having
"Requires: fontconfig" in fonts packages?
Currently I am in confusion on whether to drop fontconfig as
Requires or not and still packaging guidelines is missing this issue
to address it.
I am sure many new packages got added to Fedora recently and many
will be coming in future. But still we are missing proper fonts
guidelines page. I think its good if we have wiki page that will
describe and give sample SPEC for fonts packages including how to
handle license and its naming issues for new coming fonts package
reviews.
Regards,
Parag.
12:37 a.m.
New subject: Packaging/ScriptletSnippets Fonts section needs to mention Buildrequires
Parag N(पराग़) さんは書きました:
Can you please provide more information on this issue of not having
"Requires: fontconfig" in fonts packages?
The argument I can see for having "Requires(post): fontconfig", etc is
that potentially some fonts packages could get installed before
fontconfig does and so not get included in the cache?
Jens
--
Jens Petersen
I18n Engineering
Red Hat
12:43 a.m.
New subject: Packaging/ScriptletSnippets Fonts section needs to mention Buildrequires
On Wed, 2007-09-19 at 15:37 +1000, Jens Petersen wrote:
Parag N(पराग़) さんは書きました:
> Can you please provide more information on this issue of not having
> "Requires: fontconfig" in fonts packages?
The argument I can see for having "Requires(post): fontconfig", etc is
that potentially some fonts packages could get installed before
fontconfig does and so not get included in the cache?
Jens
If fontconfig gets installed later, it should create all the required
caches in %post:
# Force regeneration of all fontconfig cache files
2:53 a.m.
New subject: Packaging/ScriptletSnippets Fonts section needs to mention Buildrequires
Le Mer 19 septembre 2007 07:37, Jens Petersen a écrit :
Parag N(पराग़) さんは書きました:
> Can you please provide more information on this issue of not having
> "Requires: fontconfig" in fonts packages?
The argument I can see for having "Requires(post): fontconfig", etc is
that potentially some fonts packages could get installed before
fontconfig does and so not get included in the cache?
Fontconfig creates its cache on install. There is no need for
Requires(post): fontconfig
Since there were some interested replies to my font SIG proposal but
no deluge of would-be SIG contributors I'll probably document in my
wiki space with no particular urgency
--
Nicolas Mailhot
4:54 a.m.
New subject: fonts packages requiring fontconfig
Nicolas Mailhot さんは書きました:
Fontconfig creates its cache on install. There is no need for
Requires(post): fontconfig
Ok, that is good then.
One other small thing: except a few fonts, it seems only fontconfig
currently owns /usr/share/fonts. Should it be owned by filesystem instead?
Since there were some interested replies to my font SIG proposal but
no deluge of would-be SIG contributors I'll probably document in my
wiki space with no particular urgency
Ok, I see. If you like I would be happy to put the documentation of
fonts for different languages, etc under I18N/Fonts in the wiki. :)
Jens
6:52 a.m.
New subject: fonts packages requiring fontconfig
Le Ven 21 septembre 2007 11:54, Jens Petersen a écrit :
Nicolas Mailhot さんは書きました:
> Fontconfig creates its cache on install. There is no need for
> Requires(post): fontconfig
Ok, that is good then.
One other small thing: except a few fonts, it seems only fontconfig
currently owns /usr/share/fonts. Should it be owned by filesystem
instead?
I didn't check but if its not owned by filesystem it should be
> Since there were some interested replies to my font SIG proposal
but
> no deluge of would-be SIG contributors I'll probably document in my
> wiki space with no particular urgency
Ok, I see. If you like I would be happy to put the documentation of
fonts for different languages, etc under I18N/Fonts in the wiki. :)
Well it seems this message has the intended effect of getting a few
more people react, to I guess we may still get a font SIG :) At least
I'll look this week-end what is required to formally create one, and
start working on the wiki pages
Regards,
--
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