i'm wondering if there might be some benefit to repackaging some of the docbook-related packages. first, there are the two "utils" packages: docbook-utils docbook-utils-pdf it seems awkward to have one package advertising itself as "utils", only for some of those utils to be broken off and put in a more specific package, which wouldn't be obvious to anyone who simply saw "docbook-utils" and figured that's all he needed. more to the point, that second package contains additional utilities anyway: $ rpm -ql docbook-utils-pdf /usr/bin/db2dvi /usr/bin/db2pdf /usr/bin/db2ps /usr/bin/docbook2dvi /usr/bin/docbook2pdf /usr/bin/docbook2ps /usr/share/man/man1/db2pdf.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1/docbook2dvi.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1/docbook2pdf.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1/docbook2ps.1.gz $ so there's DVI and PS stuff in there as well -- certainly not obvious from the package name. is there some reason this can's just be all in one package? also, is there any clean way to separate the SGML and XML stuff in the docbook-dtds package? even the XML DTDs for docbook are under /usr/share/sgml. does XML processing still require underlying functionality? if not, is there no way to separate all of that into SGML versus XML content, and perhaps load only the XML-related packages if that's all one needs? rday -- ======================================================================== Robert P. J. Day Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA Home page: http://crashcourse.ca Fedora Cookbook: http://crashcourse.ca/wiki/index.php/Fedora_Cookbook ========================================================================