11:11 a.m.
Hi,
I would like to know is there a way in Fedora to ship only binaries of
a free/open source software.
Upstream releases the sources under a free/open source software
license, but, would like one to register (for free) at their website
before downloading the source. They want to be able to track who
downloaded the sources.
So, would it be possible to ship such software as binaries in Fedora,
without "yumdownloader --source" providing the sources?
SK
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11:28 a.m.
On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 12:11 PM, Shakthi Kannan <shakthimaan(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
I would like to know is there a way in Fedora to ship only binaries of
a free/open source software.
Upstream releases the sources under a free/open source software
license, but, would like one to register (for free) at their website
before downloading the source. They want to be able to track who
downloaded the sources.
So, would it be possible to ship such software as binaries in Fedora,
without "yumdownloader --source" providing the sources?
In a word: No.
The longer answer is that this might be technically legal (depending
on the license), but Fedora would never do so.
Access to source (including the SRPMs we use to build binaries) is
effectively philosophically non-negotiable. Additionally the process
by which software gets into Fedora demands access to source, from the
package review, to building in koji, etc, and at all the points along
the way that source is accessible to the world.
--David
11:41 a.m.
New subject: Shipping only binaries for open source software
On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 10:41:01PM +0530, Shakthi Kannan said
Hi,
I would like to know is there a way in Fedora to ship only binaries of
a free/open source software.
Upstream releases the sources under a free/open source software
license, but, would like one to register (for free) at their website
before downloading the source. They want to be able to track who
downloaded the sources.
If it's a true free/open license then it grants redistribution rights
and only one person/entity would need to register to download the
source. If such redistribution is not allowed then the license is not
acceptable for fedora anyway.
-- Geoff
12:08 p.m.
Shakthi Kannan <shakthimaan(a)gmail.com> writes:
I would like to know is there a way in Fedora to ship only binaries
of
a free/open source software.
This seems rather contrary to the entire purpose of open source.
Upstream releases the sources under a free/open source software
license, but, would like one to register (for free) at their website
before downloading the source. They want to be able to track who
downloaded the sources.
You should ask on fedora-legal, but I think you will be told that if
they are requiring that then it's not actually freely licensed.
regards, tom lane
12:24 p.m.
On Mon, 2012-01-16 at 22:41 +0530, Shakthi Kannan wrote:
Hi,
I would like to know is there a way in Fedora to ship only binaries of
a free/open source software.
Upstream releases the sources under a free/open source software
license, but, would like one to register (for free) at their website
before downloading the source. They want to be able to track who
downloaded the sources.
So, would it be possible to ship such software as binaries in Fedora,
without "yumdownloader --source" providing the sources?
If there is a restriction in their license that the sources MUST be
downloaded through their (free) paywall, then the sources probably
aren't actually using an acceptable open-source license.
If the license is actually appropriate, then there's no reason not to
ship the sources.
But it's never acceptable to ship something in Fedora without the
sources being available in a source RPM.
12:43 p.m.
On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 10:41:01PM +0530, Shakthi Kannan wrote:
I would like to know is there a way in Fedora to ship only binaries
of
a free/open source software.
<snip>
It's my understanding that shipping binary-only is not compatible with
Fedora's goals. Packages necessarily need to be buildable from source
code in order to be packaged for distribution. Unless it's firmware and
meets some very specific restrictions [1], it's probably ot going to
happen.
[1]
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:LicensingGuidelines#Binary_Firmware
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9:30 p.m.
Hi,
--- On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 1:01 AM, Frank Murphy <frankly3d(a)gmail.com> wrote:
| Who are upstream?
\--
Upstream does release their sources under the GPL license. They just
want to know how many people downloaded it.
http://esl.epfl.ch/3d-ice.html
Thanks for all your feedback. Appreciate it!
SK
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Shakthi Kannan
http://www.shakthimaan.com
7:39 a.m.
On Tue, 2012-01-17 at 09:00 +0530, Shakthi Kannan wrote:
Hi,
--- On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 1:01 AM, Frank Murphy <frankly3d(a)gmail.com> wrote:
| Who are upstream?
\--
Upstream does release their sources under the GPL license. They just
want to know how many people downloaded it.
http://esl.epfl.ch/3d-ice.html
Thanks for all your feedback. Appreciate it!
SK
I'd check with Legal on this one. According to
http://esl.epfl.ch/page-51743-en.html
"IMPORTANT INFORMATION: Any usage of 3D-ICE for research, commercial or
other purposes must be properly acknowledged in the resulting products
or publications. Specifically, the publications 1 and 2 below must be
cited in all cases."
This looks to me (IANAL) to be in direct violation of the GPL license.
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