Hi Miro, I can understand the desire to remove pytz and I have to mention that I don't have any specific upstream feedback. However certbot/babel do support pretty old versions of Python. Adding a separate code path for Python 3.x+ might be a pretty tough sell and might contribute to the "let's advertise snaps only for distribution" mindset. Felix

On Thu, Feb 18, 2021 at 05:39:30PM +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: I think there shouldn't be resistance from certbot to drop the dependency. certbot should be deployable in really minimal environments, so I expect people would be happy to drop the dependency. Zbyszek > Hi Felix. > > Disclaimer: We are not removing pytz as long as there are packages > that depend on it. > > For babel, I follow this: https://github.com/python-babel/babel/issues/716 > > Since we have marked the pytz package unwanted for ELN and we have > babel in ELN (trough sphinx), we'll most likely try to help there > (or get rid of babel from ELN's sphinx). > > BTW There's backports.zoneinfo for Python 3.6+, so we'll see how > long babel needs to support Python 2.