On 09. 01. 19 10:31, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Wed, Jan 09, 2019 at 09:34:54AM +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: >> Today, if I try to uninstall python2 from Xfce spin (rawhide), this is what >> gets removed as dependent: >> >>   NetworkManager-openconnect-gnome >>   blueberry >>   gnumeric >>   python2-catfish >>   system-config-keyboard >>   system-config-users >> >> Several others go as no longer needed, mostly python2 libs, but also: >> >>   NetworkManager-openconnect >>   bluez-obex >>   bluez-tools >>   openconnect >>   wmctrl >> >> While I doubt the actual usefulness of gnumeric, what bothers me is: > Maybe drop gnumeric, at least from the default installation? I really > liked gnumeric, it is lightweight and well designed, but its time seems > to have passed. I don't think we're doing anybody any favours by > encouraging people to use it. Exactly. >> 1. It seems that the Bluetooth stack is entirely gone. Do we have an viable >> alternative? > Hmm, in F29 workstation, I have bluez-obexd.x86_64 installed, and > "sudo dnf remove python2" doesn't touch it. What is the dependency > chain that you see? bluez-obexd was only removed as it was no longer required. The primary thing that got blasted by py2 removal was blueberry. >> 2. If openconnect is not needed on Workstation, why is it needed in Xfce? >> >> 3. Can we set keyboards/users with some alternatives? system-config-* still >> link to fedorahosted as upstream and haven't received an update in years. >> They seem pretty upstream dead to me. > >> 4. Catfish is Python 3 compatible, but the Fedora maintainer is not [4]. > I rebuilt the package with your PR. I hope I won't get flamed to death ;) Well it's my commit, so maybe I will get flamed :D

>>>>> "MH" == Miro Hrončok <mhroncok(a)redhat.com&gt; writes: MH> Aaaand... it's reverted :D He reverts any of the commits I have made to the packages he maintains as well. Just mass cleanup things like the removal of defattr. Reverted with a completely empty commit message. I really don't want to get into a revert war with the guy. It's just pointless. I guess at some point either FPC or FESCo will have to talk about it.

On 13. 01. 19 7:57, Nick Coghlan wrote: > Anyway, Zbigniew has resubmitted the change to make the package policy > compliant as a new PR: > https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/catfish/pull-request/2 This is a result of https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2050