Dear python devel, I just noticed that since Fedora 28, package python2-firewall is no longer available and while I know that python2 packages nobody seems to rely on are being gradually removed nowadays, I wonder why exactly was this particular package removed. The problem here is that without python2 module for firewalld, one can't use an ansible playbook to reconfigure firewall on Fedora machine: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1575428 And while switching to python3[2] may solve this particular problem, I don't think it's a reasonable solution from Fedora perspective, which: * packages Ansible so that it runs on python 2 * provides Firewalld to manage firewall by default Decision to drop python2-firewall then looks little weird, as it breaks the general expectation that ansible playbook using firewalld module is able to reconfigure firewall on a fedora machine. Moreover other python2 modules which some ansible modules are using such as python2-libselinux or python2-dnf are still available, and dropping python2-firewall doesn't look very consistent. That said, these python2 subpackages will not be installed by default[3]. The other problem here is that it's not easy to spot such problem, as this kind of dependency is not visible via rpm requirements (see eg. BZ 1505082 for explanation :). Maintainer dropping his python2 subpackage could very easily miss this. What do you think? Do we want to continue dropping python2 modules and encourage people to reconfigure ansible to run under python 3 while shipping ansible with python 2 or do we want to keep python2 modules used by ansible available, even thouhg this is not easy to track right now? And don't get me wrong, I'm a fan of switching to python3 and I agree that helping ansible guys with python 3 testing and porting is good for Fedora. I just don't think that dropping random packages from distribution so that random modules doesn't work with default ansible is a good way to do it. [1] https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/firewalld/c/40f23213c95db820a0d725e42a... [2] http://docs.ansible.com/ansible/latest/reference_appendices/python_3_supp... [3] https://fedoramagazine.org/getting-ansible-working-fedora-23/ -- Martin Bukatovic