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Issues viewing info on pagure.io
by John W. Himpel 10 Apr '24

10 Apr '24

All, First let me express my appreciation to Tomas for his presentation earlier today. I found it very helpful. I am trying to follow the links he posted on the Fedora Room on Discourse. Unfortunately, whenever I try to access anything on https://pagure.io/????? via firefox, all I get is the spinner followed eventuatlly by a "The connection has times out" message. Is there something I need to do in order to access pagure content? Thanks.

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Video meeting about Review Installation Media
by Peter Boy 10 Apr '24

10 Apr '24

Folks, We agreed upon a video meeting Wednesday April 10, 17:00 - about 18:30 ===UTC=== Matrix Server room I’ll open a video meeting for testing Tuesday April 9, 17:00 - about 17:30 ===UTC=== Matrix Server room You can test your equipment on this occasion About 5 - 10 minutes before the scheduled time you will see an announcement at the top of the room’s post listing saying Jitsi Video Conference And a „Join Conference“ Button Klick the button and I let you in. During the video meeting there is also a chat window available for typing. This chat gets part of the room’s posting list and is available for future look up. So, we may post some intermediate results or findings in the chat window for future reference. === Regarding the meeting === I've put some questions that have been on my mind since I've been working on creating a server VM on our server wiki page: =============================================================== https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Server/Review_Installation_Media =============================================================== Please, could everyone add their question(s) to that list? Or - if not that familiar with wiki pages - in a reply to this mail so I can add it to the Wiki page. I hope we can structure our discussion a bit in advance that way. Best Peter -- Peter Boy https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Pboy PBoy(a)fedoraproject.org Timezone: CET (UTC+1) / CEST (UTC+2) Fedora Server Edition Working Group member Fedora Docs team contributor and board member Java developer and enthusiast

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Re: Video meeting about Review Installation Media
by Alexander Bokovoy 09 Apr '24

09 Apr '24

On Аўт, 09 кра 2024, J Beard wrote: >What is the room called? Fedora Server? I'm not finding it. Also, >I'm unable to login through Homeserver as its reached it's "Monthly >Active User Limit." The room is #server:fedoraproject.org. You can join the #server:fedoraproject.org room via this link, for example: https://matrix.to/#/#server:fedoraproject.org As for the video link, it really depends on your Matrix client. Somehow, my Nheko desktop client does not show that link at all. > >Thanks, > >Jason > > >On 4/8/24 04:31, Peter Boy wrote: >>Folks, >> >>We agreed upon a video meeting >> >> Wednesday April 10, 17:00 - about 18:30 ===UTC=== >> Matrix Server room >> >>I’ll open a video meeting for testing >> Tuesday April 9, 17:00 - about 17:30 ===UTC=== >> Matrix Server room >>You can test your equipment on this occasion >> >>About 5 - 10 minutes before the scheduled time you will see an announcement at the top of the room’s post listing saying >> >> Jitsi Video Conference >> >>And a „Join Conference“ Button >> >>Klick the button and I let you in. >> >>During the video meeting there is also a chat window available for typing. This chat gets part of the room’s posting list and is available for future look up. So, we may post some intermediate results or findings in the chat window for future reference. >> >> >>=== Regarding the meeting === >> >>I've put some questions that have been on my mind since I've been working on creating a server VM on our server wiki page: >>=============================================================== >>https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Server/Review_Installation_Media >>=============================================================== >> >>Please, could everyone add their question(s) to that list? Or - if not that familiar with wiki pages - in a reply to this mail so I can add it to the Wiki page. >> >>I hope we can structure our discussion a bit in advance that way. >> >> >>Best >>Peter >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>-- >>Peter Boy >>https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Pboy >>PBoy(a)fedoraproject.org >> >>Timezone: CET (UTC+1) / CEST (UTC+2) >> >>Fedora Server Edition Working Group member >>Fedora Docs team contributor and board member >>Java developer and enthusiast >> >> >> >>-- >>_______________________________________________ >>server mailing list --server(a)lists.fedoraproject.org >>To unsubscribe send an email toserver-leave(a)lists.fedoraproject.org >>Fedora Code of Conduct:https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ >>List Guidelines:https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines >>List Archives:https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/server@lists.fedorap… >>Do not reply to spam, report it:https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue -- / Alexander Bokovoy

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Re: Video meeting about Review Installation Media
by Peter Boy 09 Apr '24

09 Apr '24

Hi Jason, If you open your Browser, Firefox or chrome should work fine, you can enter „chat.fedoraproject.org <http://chat.fedoraproject.org/>“ in the address line. There you can login using your FAS data and then select either the browser app or the native app to proceed. Both work fine, probably the browser app is easier. Then you can choose „Fedora“ in the left most column, and then „rooms“ in column right of it. There is a search field, youu should enter Server or Fedora Server. You have to join the room and then you are in - hopefully See my screen shot: > Am 09.04.2024 um 17:48 schrieb J Beard <jas_beard(a)hotmail.com>: > > What is the room called? Fedora Server? I'm not finding it. Also, I'm unable to login through Homeserver as its reached it's "Monthly Active User Limit." > Thanks, > Jason > > On 4/8/24 04:31, Peter Boy wrote: >> Folks, >> >> We agreed upon a video meeting >> >> Wednesday April 10, 17:00 - about 18:30 ===UTC=== >> Matrix Server room >> >> I’ll open a video meeting for testing >> Tuesday April 9, 17:00 - about 17:30 ===UTC=== >> Matrix Server room >> You can test your equipment on this occasion >> >> About 5 - 10 minutes before the scheduled time you will see an announcement at the top of the room’s post listing saying >> >> Jitsi Video Conference >> >> And a „Join Conference“ Button >> >> Klick the button and I let you in. >> >> During the video meeting there is also a chat window available for typing. This chat gets part of the room’s posting list and is available for future look up. So, we may post some intermediate results or findings in the chat window for future reference. >> >> >> === Regarding the meeting === >> >> I've put some questions that have been on my mind since I've been working on creating a server VM on our server wiki page: >> =============================================================== >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Server/Review_Installation_Media >> =============================================================== >> >> Please, could everyone add their question(s) to that list? Or - if not that familiar with wiki pages - in a reply to this mail so I can add it to the Wiki page. >> >> I hope we can structure our discussion a bit in advance that way. >> >> >> Best >> Peter >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Peter Boy >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Pboy >> PBoy(a)fedoraproject.org >> >> Timezone: CET (UTC+1) / CEST (UTC+2) >> >> Fedora Server Edition Working Group member >> Fedora Docs team contributor and board member >> Java developer and enthusiast >> >> >> >> -- >> _______________________________________________ >> server mailing list -- server(a)lists.fedoraproject.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to server-leave(a)lists.fedoraproject.org >> Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ >> List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines >> List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/server@lists.fedoraproject.org >> Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue >> > -- > _______________________________________________ > server mailing list -- server(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to server-leave(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/server@lists.fedoraproject.org > Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue -- Peter Boy https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Pboy PBoy(a)fedoraproject.org Timezone: CET (UTC+1) / CEST (UTC+2) Fedora Server Edition Working Group member Fedora Docs team contributor and board member Java developer and enthusiast

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Server WG work plan and "story" for f41 / f42
by Peter Boy 09 Apr '24

09 Apr '24

It’s time to decide about our plan and „story“ for f41 and f42. I created a ticket: #134 Fedora Server goal(s) and "story" for F41 / F42 (https://pagure.io/fedora-server/issue/134) In short (longer versions in ticket): a. Fedora Server VM as VPS b. NFS/Samba Cockpit module c. Backup and restore made easy d. identity server e. local or public file server f. management and installation server g. A power- and cost-efficient environment aware Home Server h. Fedora Server live medium (to try out as well as rescue operations) i. Fedora Server Edition Internet server spin We should choose an option that one of us is already working on or has previous experience with, specifically für f41. Please, comment here or in he ticket. Additionally, we have our long term projects: - Ansible support - Revised release criteria -- Peter Boy https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Pboy PBoy(a)fedoraproject.org Timezone: CET (UTC+1) / CEST (UTC+2) Fedora Server Edition Working Group member Fedora Docs team contributor and board member Java developer and enthusiast

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Duplicate IPV4 address on network -- headless server
by John W. Himpel 08 Apr '24

08 Apr '24

All, I just finished testing the condition where I booted F40 Server having previously used NetworkManager to force the interface to use the ipv4 address already assigned to another ho I did not see any indication on the console that an duplicate ipv4 address had been detected. However in the journal there were several messages in the journal from NetworkManager indicating there was an issue with a duplicate ipv4 address already active on the network. Issuing the command nmcli device status, shows the device as disconnected. I have not tried this with an active GUI on the host trying to add the duplicate ipv4 address.

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Short info about our April 03 meeting
by Peter Boy 07 Apr '24

07 Apr '24

Again, for everyone's convenience, a brief summary of our IRC meeting right here. == Essentials == === Review Installation Media === The discussion revealed obvious inconsistencies between the ways of creating our various installation media that have evolved over time. All of this is difficult to deal with in a matrix discussion. Therefore: AGREED: An additional meeting out of turn in the Matrix Sever room exclusively to discuss the Review Installation Media topic. ==== Wednesday, April 10, 17:00 UTC ==== (same time as our regular meetings) ACTION: pboy will prepare the room and provide a test opportunity so that everyone can try out their equipment beforehand and make sure that the audio and video work. ==== Tuesday, April 9, 17:00 UTC ==== in Matrix Server room. === Revisiting Server installation media naming convention === The online/offline proposal is welcomed, but the overall solution should be presented more clearly. A decision will be aimed for by mid-May at the latest so that there is sufficient time for implementation. == Summary: == https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/meeting_matrix_fedoraproject-org/2024-04-… == Full log: == https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/meeting_matrix_fedoraproject-org/2024-04-… -- Peter Boy https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Pboy PBoy(a)fedoraproject.org Timezone: CET (UTC+1) / CEST (UTC+2) Fedora Server Edition Working Group member Fedora Docs team contributor and board member Java developer and enthusiast

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2024-04-08 @ 16:00 UTC - Fedora 40 Blocker Review Meeting
by Adam Williamson 06 Apr '24

06 Apr '24

# F40 Blocker Review meeting # Date: 2024-04-08 # Time: 16:00 UTC # Location: https://matrix.to/#/#blocker-review:fedoraproject.org?web-instance[element.… Hi folks! It's time for another blocker review meeting. We have 4 proposed blockers and 5 proposed freeze exceptions for Final. Here is a handy link which should show you the meeting time in your local time: https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Fedora+40+Blocker… The meeting will be on Matrix. Click the link above to join in a web client - you can authenticate with your FAS account - or use a dedicated client of your choosing. If you have time this weekend, you can take a look at the proposed or accepted blockers before the meeting - the full lists can be found here: https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/ . Remember, you can also now vote on bugs outside of review meetings! If you look at the bug list in the blockerbugs app, you'll see links labeled "Vote!" next to all proposed blockers and freeze exceptions. Those links take you to tickets where you can vote. https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review has instructions on how exactly you do it. We usually go through the tickets shortly before the meeting and apply any clear votes, so the meeting will just cover bugs where there wasn't a clear outcome in the ticket voting yet. **THIS MEANS IF YOU VOTE NOW, THE MEETING WILL BE SHORTER!** We'll be evaluating these bugs to see if they violate any of the Release Criteria and warrant the blocking of a release if they're not fixed. Information on the release criteria for F40 can be found on the wiki [0]. For more information about the Blocker and Freeze exception process, check out these links: - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_blocker_bug_process - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_freeze_exception_bug_process And for those of you who are curious how a Blocker Review Meeting works - or how it's supposed to go and you want to run one - check out the SOP on the wiki: - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting Have a good weekend and see you tomorrow! [0] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Release_Criteria -- Adam Williamson (he/him/his) Fedora QA Fedora Chat: @adamwill:fedora.im | Mastodon: @adamw@fosstodon.org https://www.happyassassin.net

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Agenda Items on 2024-04-03 17:00 ==UTC== meeting
by Peter Boy 03 Apr '24

03 Apr '24

The upcoming meeting will be held on ========================================================================== Fedora Server MATRIX meeting Wednesday, Apr 03 17:00 ==UTC== https://matrix.to/#/#meeting:fedoraproject.org?web-instance[element.io]=cha… ========================================================================== Please, check your local time using date -d '2024-04-03 17:00UTC' Unfortunately, I'm "a bit" late again. Sorry for this. As a reminder ============= We decided to continue our meetings on MATRIX! The above link lets you choose which app to use: web browser, elements, and a lot of others, including some CLI tools, and redirects you to the meeting romm. ==== Agenda ==== #link https://pagure.io/fedora-server/report/Meeting To be able to discuss all topics on the agenda and to prevent us from repeatedly putting off topics that have not been dealt with, we should set time limits for the individual items on the agenda. If we need more time, we should continue on the mailing list. === 1. Follow up actions and announcements === === 2. Review installation media === !link https://pagure.io/fedora-server/issue/88 !link https://pagure.io/fedora-server/issue/130 !link https://pagure.io/pungi-fedora/blob/main/f/variants-fedora.xml !link https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/server@lists.fedoraproject.or… We have to discuss how to proceed. About 30 mins === 3. LVM2 default configuration change !link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2247872 Mainly informational today. About 5 mins === 4. Testing F40 === !link https://pagure.io/fedora-server/issue/125 link https://hackmd.io/NtO4O9vRT3a71UMZMkceoA?both We need to discuss - the current state of tests - How to continue moving away from hackmd === 5. Revisiting Server installation media naming convention !https://pagure.io/fedora-server/issue/126 === 6. Our "story" for F40 !https://pagure.io/fedora-server/issue/101 This includes a Server entry to the Release Notes! === 7. Open Floor For any additions or changes, please reply to this email. For an overview about current tasks look at: https://pagure.io/fedora-server/boards/Works%20in%20progress ===== Pending topics for the next meetings ===== === Revisiting Fedora Server release criteria !link https://pagure.io/fedora-server/issue/61 === Using Ansible to install and configure Wildfly !link https://pagure.io/fedora-server/issue/60 === Revisiting Server installation media naming convention !https://pagure.io/fedora-server/issue/126 === Work program and goals for F40/41 === Previous discussion: Fedora Server goal(s) for F39 !link https://pagure.io/fedora-server/issue/102 -- Peter Boy https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Pboy PBoy(a)fedoraproject.org Timezone: CET (UTC+1) / CEST (UTC+2) Fedora Server Edition Working Group member Fedora Docs team contributor and board member Java developer and enthusiast

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Fix variants.xml in compose configs
by Peter Boy 03 Apr '24

03 Apr '24

See https://pagure.io/fedora-server/issue/130 I’m wondering about all the <groups> entries. Server is the only variant with those. (And I think we should delete the <arch>armhfp</arch> to make it clear, that Fedora no longer supports armhfp) My question is, do we still need the groups at all? Isn't everything regulated via Kickstart files? As far as I could decipher in the generation process, everything begins with a kickstart file fedora-disk-server.ks In https://pagure.io/fedora-kickstarts/blob/main/f/fedora-disk-server.ks Basically it includes fedora-disk-base.ks and that in turn a lot of other kickstart files. And each kickstart file includes/installs a lot of packages or package groups (from comps). All of these seems to be quite old and could date back to the time before the differentiation into editions. Wouldn't it be a good first step to systematize the comps files? One idea is: fedora-disk-server.ks // base für iso installation media -- fedora-server-base hw //packages to ensure operability on hardware, kernel, firmware, hw driver, etc —- fedora-server-base-kvm //packages to ensure operability on KVM virtual machen: kernel—core —- fedora-server-base-sys //basic universal system: systems, bus, etc. for either hw and vm —- fedora-server-base-runtime // our minimal generic server packages: ipa, nfs-client, etc. And and some optional packages/group We should create these groups as server-specific as possible. Currently, many of the groups used seem to be too general and more suited to Workstation. A lot of stuff is installed that we don't need and don't want. -- Peter Boy https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Pboy PBoy(a)fedoraproject.org Timezone: CET (UTC+1) / CEST (UTC+2) Fedora Server Edition Working Group member Fedora Docs team contributor and board member Java developer and enthusiast

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