Yesterday a bi-weekly IRC meetings was held. Just for information and as an encouragement to participate in the discussion, I would like to summarise the most important topics. A short IRC summary is available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2021-01-20/fedora_server..., the complete log at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2021-01-20/fedora_server... * TOPIC: Fedora Server Product Requirement Document (PRD) Update* A proposal is available for download at https://pboy.fedorapeople.org/FedoraServerPRD-UpdateProposal-V1-0.odt (LibreOffice format). There is ongoing work to make it available at hackmd.io as well. Everyone is (strongly :-) ) invited to contribute ideas or assessments on the individual topics, here on the mailing list or directly in the document (and send it to the author at the moment). Further discussion at the next meeting ( scheduled 3 Feb. 2021) * TOPIC: Improving Fedora Server documentation and visibility * The starting reference is the suggestion (Matthew) to add a "Fedora Server" box to the docs home page, complementing the existing IoT, Silverblue and CoreOS boxes. The general assessment is that a shift from the wiki to the docs system would be positive. What needs to be clarified is what is to be included there. Some ideas: Server documentation, howtos, ongoing projects and some items that are currently on the wiki page. Some arguments to be weighed up: - It is problematic that documentation becomes outdated more or less quickly. - No documentation might be better than outdated documentation. - Documentation should "grey itself out" over the years (or may be revoked automatically after x years if not updated) - There is also documentation in various places that includes Fedora Server. - Howtos would perhaps be better placed elsewhere, e.g. Fedora Magazine perhaps. - Current and accurate How-To's do attract new users. - If we add "roles" in addition to base server, then docs and possible Git repositories become more important. - We should / must increase visibility. Agreed: pboy will prepare a proposal on possible contents for the next meeting. * TOPIC: systemd-oomd * change proposal: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/EnableSystemdOomd#How_to_test - currently only Fedora Workstation and the KDE Spin comes with a userspace oom killer, and it's earlyoom - the change will enable systemd-oomd on every Fedora solution that seems suitable Broad assessment: should be fine on server Possible issue: - if you have say a httpd and are running several applications on it, they will all be in the same cgroup - maybe jBoss / wildfly are affected the same way Agreed: The aspect would have to be well documented. Further testing. * TOPIC: open floor * The Wiki pages urgently need to be updated, at least the completely deprecated information simply needs to be deleted. Agreed: Further discussion next meeting. ### Just in case anyone missed it: Everyone is strongly invited to contribute! ### (Or as it was called in ancient Rome: ceterum censeo … )