On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 10:54 -0400, David Huff wrote:
On 10/19/2009 05:33 PM, Jesse Keating wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-10-19 at 10:47 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote:
>> Per the torrent server it received almost 1,000 downloads for F11.
>
> But we don't know how many of those were just "download everything and
> seed" people.
>
>>
>> More to the point, what is required for the spin to be there, that
>> isn't/wasn't being done along the way? Do the AOS spin maintainers
>> understand that requirement properly?
>
> I think all the required stuff was there for it to be there, but since
> it uses a different compose tool it didn't get done in my compose
> script, and I noticed too late for Alpha. I then waited for anybody to
> notice that it wasn't there any more, which nobody did, and decided to
> play the same game for Beta. Making spins is not a trivial task, nor is
> hosting them. If we aren't driving anybody to the spin or if the
> absence of the spin goes unnoticed, one has to wonder if the time and
> effort is worth it.
I admit that the AOS is not currently top priority of my day Job, which
is why I did not notice it was missing in Alpha, however my
understanding is that everything was in place, and was on schedule to
ship with F12.
I also understand that there is still demand for a small version of
Fedora, form ISV's and others who want to add there own apps on a
small-footprint spin.
If the AOS is going to miss F12, which is not optimal, I think there are
a couple issue that need to be addressed. First I think I need to
better understand the compose process of a spin and maybe we should
rethink the distribution method of the AOS, tarball vs iso image.
So two questions:
- Will the AOS make F12?
- What needs to change to make rel-eng life easier so this does not
happen again?
I knew this was going to bite me. I just tried to make the AOS images
for F12, and appliance-creator threw tracebacks at me. Have you tried
making an image at all during the F12 cycle?
--
Jesse Keating
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