4:22 p.m.
Hi all,
I have been readig a lot of posts on this list lately, and wonder if someone can give me
some clarification on the difference between revisor and livecd-creator.
As a blind user, unfortunately, I cannot run revisor in gui mode since it is not
accessible using orca on the gnome desktop, so I am not sure what benefits I would gain
from using revisor.
I have created a couple of livecd's using livecd-creator, and while the process is a
bit time-consuming, it seems to be pretty successful.
Any info would be appreciated.
Donald Raikes | Accessibility Specialist
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4:38 p.m.
DON.RAIKES(a)oracle.com wrote:
Hi all,
I have been readig a lot of posts on this list lately, and wonder if
someone can give me some clarification on the difference between revisor
and livecd-creator.
As a blind user, unfortunately, I cannot run revisor in gui mode since
it is not accessible using orca on the gnome desktop, so I am not sure
what benefits I would gain from using revisor.
First of all, as the developer of revisor, I'm very sorry to not have
paid any attention to accessibility. I'll need to look into orca and
make sure the GUI is actually accessible. I'm very sorry, as this has
been neglect on my part entirely.
Revisor though also has a command line interface, which for the time
being you may be able to use. Open up a terminal and use revisor --cli
to tempt it to not start the GUI at all.
I have created a couple of livecd's using livecd-creator, and
while the
process is a bit time-consuming, it seems to be pretty successful.
Revisor uses livecd-creator and heavily depends on it. They're similar
in many ways, yet different in so many other. Sometimes, under special
circumstances mostly having to do with special use-cases, Revisor does
something a little different from livecd-tools.
Final advice; to just create a livecd, use livecd-tools. If you have
challenges beyond the scope of livecd-tools, use Revisor.
Kind regards,
Jeroen van Meeuwen
-kanarip
5:21 p.m.
Jereon,
Thanks so much for the quick reply. I figured that livecd-tools would suite my purposes,
but in an effort to expand my knowledge, I was testing revisor last night. I did try the
--cli mode, and the process ran most of the way through but in the end it ran into some
errors. I don't have the error list on this computer so I can't forward the
errors, but it was something about packages already installed.
As for the accessibility, I would be happy to test anything you get working and to help in
any way i can.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jeroen van Meeuwen [mailto:kanarip@kanarip.com]
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 2:38 PM
To: The Spin Special Interest Group mailing list
Subject: Re: [Fedora-spins] revisor vs livecd-creator
DON.RAIKES(a)oracle.com wrote:
Hi all,
I have been readig a lot of posts on this list lately, and wonder if
someone can give me some clarification on the difference between revisor
and livecd-creator.
As a blind user, unfortunately, I cannot run revisor in gui mode since
it is not accessible using orca on the gnome desktop, so I am not sure
what benefits I would gain from using revisor.
First of all, as the developer of revisor, I'm very sorry to not have
paid any attention to accessibility. I'll need to look into orca and
make sure the GUI is actually accessible. I'm very sorry, as this has
been neglect on my part entirely.
Revisor though also has a command line interface, which for the time
being you may be able to use. Open up a terminal and use revisor --cli
to tempt it to not start the GUI at all.
I have created a couple of livecd's using livecd-creator, and
while the
process is a bit time-consuming, it seems to be pretty successful.
Revisor uses livecd-creator and heavily depends on it. They're similar
in many ways, yet different in so many other. Sometimes, under special
circumstances mostly having to do with special use-cases, Revisor does
something a little different from livecd-tools.
Final advice; to just create a livecd, use livecd-tools. If you have
challenges beyond the scope of livecd-tools, use Revisor.
Kind regards,
Jeroen van Meeuwen
-kanarip
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6:53 p.m.
Jereon,
Another reason I am interested in usig revisor is to make it easier to create specialized
install media.
I am trying to simplify not only my life, but that of other blind folks as well, and
having a set of install cd's/dvd's tailored to blind folks would be really nice.
I am not sure how well the text-based installer will work, or even how to get brltty
started prior to the instlaler's running, but I am sure there must be a way.
-----Original Message-----
From: DON.RAIKES(a)ORACLE.COM
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 3:22 PM
To: The Spin Special Interest Group mailing list
Subject: RE: [Fedora-spins] revisor vs livecd-creator
Jereon,
Thanks so much for the quick reply. I figured that livecd-tools would suite my purposes,
but in an effort to expand my knowledge, I was testing revisor last night. I did try the
--cli mode, and the process ran most of the way through but in the end it ran into some
errors. I don't have the error list on this computer so I can't forward the
errors, but it was something about packages already installed.
As for the accessibility, I would be happy to test anything you get working and to help in
any way i can.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jeroen van Meeuwen [mailto:kanarip@kanarip.com]
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 2:38 PM
To: The Spin Special Interest Group mailing list
Subject: Re: [Fedora-spins] revisor vs livecd-creator
DON.RAIKES(a)oracle.com wrote:
Hi all,
I have been readig a lot of posts on this list lately, and wonder if
someone can give me some clarification on the difference between revisor
and livecd-creator.
As a blind user, unfortunately, I cannot run revisor in gui mode since
it is not accessible using orca on the gnome desktop, so I am not sure
what benefits I would gain from using revisor.
First of all, as the developer of revisor, I'm very sorry to not have
paid any attention to accessibility. I'll need to look into orca and
make sure the GUI is actually accessible. I'm very sorry, as this has
been neglect on my part entirely.
Revisor though also has a command line interface, which for the time
being you may be able to use. Open up a terminal and use revisor --cli
to tempt it to not start the GUI at all.
I have created a couple of livecd's using livecd-creator, and
while the
process is a bit time-consuming, it seems to be pretty successful.
Revisor uses livecd-creator and heavily depends on it. They're similar
in many ways, yet different in so many other. Sometimes, under special
circumstances mostly having to do with special use-cases, Revisor does
something a little different from livecd-tools.
Final advice; to just create a livecd, use livecd-tools. If you have
challenges beyond the scope of livecd-tools, use Revisor.
Kind regards,
Jeroen van Meeuwen
-kanarip
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