8:27 p.m.
People,
Has anybody thought about / done any work on this?
When I try and replicate my Fedora KDE + Sway desktop environment on my
old Zenbook with only 4gb RAM, I drive it into the ground . . I am
doing more road trips now but I can't afford a new laptop ATM so I am
thinking of using the old laptop like a Chromebook or remoting to my
desktop and letting the desktop do all the heavy lifting.
In the old days I played around with running remote X applications which
worked but was a bit kludgey . . maybe it would be / could be nicer with
Wayland?
Even before discovering Sway, I used ALL my windows full screen anyway -
so I could drop back to some sort of remote X thing I guess but it would
be MUCH nicer if I could use Wayland and Sway somehow . .
Any feedback appreciated!
Thanks,
Phil.
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Philip Rhoades
PO Box 896
Cowra NSW 2794
Australia
E-mail: phil(a)pricom.com.au
1:49 a.m.
On 11/18/22 18:27, Philip Rhoades wrote:
People,
> Has anybody thought about / done any work on this?
When I try and replicate my Fedora KDE + Sway desktop environment on my
old Zenbook with only 4gb RAM, I drive it into the ground . . I am
doing more road trips now but I can't afford a new laptop ATM so I am
thinking of using the old laptop like a Chromebook or remoting to my
desktop and letting the desktop do all the heavy lifting.
Hi Philip,
That's odd. Minimal requirements for GNOME edition are lower than that.
Are there some problems with GPU drivers and hardware acceleration or
there's just not enough RAM for your work?
Anyways, i3 may fare better on that kind of hardware, as it's less
demanding to the graphics stack and has less mandatory components.
And there's always a possibility of disabling optional components and
decreasing resource usage with Sway.
In the old days I played around with running remote X applications
which
worked but was a bit kludgey . . maybe it would be / could be nicer with
Wayland?
There's two applications I'm aware of, both available in Fedora:
* wayvnc, a VNC server compatible with Sway. It will attach to an
existing session and share a single output.
* waypipe, a proxy for Wayland client. It gives an experience closest
to `ssh -X app` (including the part where connection loss causes
application termination).
I'm using either of the options in my LAN whenever I need to test a
random GUI app on another OS, and finding both satisfactory for that
scenario. Can't tell much about suitability for remote work.
Just remember that Wayland was not designed for network transparency and
in the case of waypipe it'll send complete rendered buffers over the
network. Don't expect it to be better than X11 :)
Even before discovering Sway, I used ALL my windows full screen
anyway -
so I could drop back to some sort of remote X thing I guess but it would
be MUCH nicer if I could use Wayland and Sway somehow . .
Any feedback appreciated!
Thanks,
Phil.
8:37 a.m.
Aleksei,
On 2022-11-19 18:49, Aleksei Bavshin wrote:
On 11/18/22 18:27, Philip Rhoades wrote:
> People,
> > Has anybody thought about / done any work on this?
>
> When I try and replicate my Fedora KDE + Sway desktop environment on
> my old Zenbook with only 4gb RAM, I drive it into the ground . . I am
> doing more road trips now but I can't afford a new laptop ATM so I am
> thinking of using the old laptop like a Chromebook or remoting to my
> desktop and letting the desktop do all the heavy lifting.
Hi Philip,
That's odd. Minimal requirements for GNOME edition are lower than
that. Are there some problems with GPU drivers and hardware
acceleration or there's just not enough RAM for your work?
I think it is just not enough RAM? - but now that I think about it more
- even on the desktop with 32gb RAM, running three browsers, many
windows and tabs eventually grinds to a halt too after about a week or
so (I leave the desktop and servers on 24x7) - and the RAM is still not
maxed out . . so I guess it is really a browser problem?
Anyways, i3 may fare better on that kind of hardware, as it's
less
demanding to the graphics stack and has less mandatory components.
And there's always a possibility of disabling optional components and
decreasing resource usage with Sway.
Well that's what I would have thought . .
> In the old days I played around with running remote X
applications
> which worked but was a bit kludgey . . maybe it would be / could be
> nicer with Wayland?
There's two applications I'm aware of, both available in Fedora:
* wayvnc, a VNC server compatible with Sway. It will attach to an
existing session and share a single output.
Yes, I have used VNC in the past - it is good for some things . .
* waypipe, a proxy for Wayland client. It gives an experience
closest
to `ssh -X app` (including the part where connection loss causes
application termination).
I tried this in the last few days - quite nice . .
I'm using either of the options in my LAN whenever I need to test
a
random GUI app on another OS, and finding both satisfactory for that
scenario. Can't tell much about suitability for remote work.
I think those would be fine for your use cases and for a minimal
connection in my use case.
Just remember that Wayland was not designed for network transparency
and in the case of waypipe it'll send complete rendered buffers over
the network. Don't expect it to be better than X11 :)
Right - I tested it at home on the LAN and even then it was a bit laggy
. .
Like a graphical version of tmux, it would be very nice to have
something where I could leave my full desktop workstation setup running
and then just remote into the whole desktop on a remote display . . and
with a snappy connection . .
Thanks for responding!
P.
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Philip Rhoades
PO Box 896
Cowra NSW 2794
Australia
E-mail: phil(a)pricom.com.au
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