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Re: Why xcdroast and not gcombust?
by Jef Spaleta 31 Aug '03

31 Aug '03

Steve Bergman wrote: > I'll file a bugzilla request though, since I think gcombust is much more > intuitive, especially for less technically inclined users. Hmm..I think you just offended me. I like gcombust of xcdroast...are you calling me a less technically inclinded user? Wait, no don't answer that...my fragile ego probably couldn't stand the truth. But seriously...if we are going to open this can of worms up and ask the question what are the 2 best cd-burning apps rhl should be shipping as core distro pieces...i don't know if I'd put gcombust in that elite group. I like it..it works for me...but i think I've seen more 'technically less inclined users' like seth, drool over k3b. I've even heard k3b compared favorable to windows cdburning apps like nero. -jef"I don't need no stinkin' drag'n'drop"spaleta

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pam src rpm replaced?
by Leonard den Ottolander 31 Aug '03

31 Aug '03

Hi, Just curious why pam-0.77-3.src.rpm on the FTP site was replaced with another version with a slightly different size but the same contents as the previous version with the same version number. While I am at it, I reported a simple missing BuildRequires for pam three weeks ago, but I haven't seen any reaction on bugzilla yet (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=101563) Why does it have to take so long just to fix such a simple bug for which a fix is provided? Not that I expect new pam rpms to be released for a single BuildRequires, but a simple "this will be fixed in the next release" would be nice. Bye, Leonard. -- How clean is a war when you shoot around nukelar waste? Stop the use of depleted uranium ammo! End all weapons of mass destruction.

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Any current workaround for Radeon/Chromium Segfault? (Bug 101647)
by Steve Bergman 31 Aug '03

31 Aug '03

I seem to be experiencing bug 101647 with my radeon 9100 and fully updated rawhide system. glxgears works fine and is properly hardware accelerated. However, anything more complex (chromium, tuxracer, rune, quakeforge, RTCW) crashes as described in the bug with similar messages. Works fine with RH9. I just bought the card today because I wanted to do away with NVidia driver which was the sole proprietary item on my machine. Any suggestions on a workaround or do I just need to be patient? Thanks, Steve

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Re: Gnome desktop now UNusable (was -Re: Authentication Error After Updating up2date)
by Leigh L. Klotz, Jr. 31 Aug '03

31 Aug '03

Elton, Are you aware that your messages always have: Priority: 2 X-Priority: High in their headers?

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Authentication Error After Updating up2date
by Robert L Cochran 31 Aug '03

31 Aug '03

I did an rpm -Fvh of up2date-3.9.20-2 and up2date-gnome-3.9.20-2 in my Severn installation and then tried to run up2date -u. I now get this error message: There was an authentication error: Unable to authenticate. What have I done wrong? Thanks Bob Cochran

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printconf should restart printer
by sean darcy 31 Aug '03

31 Aug '03

My printer is set up on an linux server running cups/samba. It's used by both linux and windows workstations. Every once in a while I get this error on the linux workstation: Call timed out: server did not respond after 10000 milliseconds closing remote file Then both printconf ( redhat-config-printer ) and the GNOME Print Manager show the printer is down - cute little red X . Neither give any way to restart the printer. I can go to the cups web interface :631 and restart the printer, which works. Then printconf and GPM are happy. Shouldn't printconf have a restart feature? Isn't it just a link to lpadmin? sean _________________________________________________________________ Get MSN 8 and enjoy automatic e-mail virus protection. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus

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Re: no ... *really* ... any ETA for updated beta?
by Jef Spaleta 30 Aug '03

30 Aug '03

Robert P. J. Day: >IMHO, if RH is going to make these promises, they should at least >try to keep them. if not, then just go with "when it's ready." >but please -- let's not waffle back and forth. Its more like "when its ready, but here is our best guess at when that will be...feel free to hold yer breath while you wait" And as rhl's development structure moves towards rhlp, you sure as hell better expect some waffling on policy decisions....changing from an in-house development process to a more open community process is not going to be a linear progression...policy changes red hat initiates, will garner feedback, to impact that initial policy change red hat decided to make. I'd rather have feedback and waffling now and even long stretches of time when red hat's policies have seem to regressed back to a fully closed development state...then have to deal with unpopular policy decisions down the road when rhlp is in full swing. Estimates are not promises.....estimates are best guesses....frankly I'm shocked Red Hat made such a bold estimate and wrote it down...because by doing so it open themselves up to exactly this sort of attack. Get a grip..its a beta...even the release schedule is buggy..you shouldn't expect otherwise. If Red Hat continues to publish "estimates" on release schedules...they should come with a confidence rating or Vegas odds, so that spectators don't make the mistake of thinking they are "promises". And maybe...just maybe...those estimates were based on estimated release schedules for components...and if a components release schedule slips a bit...maybe the beta release schedule slips a bit too? Maybe there are specific engineering goals in mind for each beta iso set? Maybe its not just a matter of throwing the current rawhide snapshot together as an iso. Maybe there is different development focus during each stage of the beta? Maybe you don't have a clear enough picture of what the internal drivers/priorities are to make a comment about the importance of keeping the estimate beta release schedule in tact? Maybe it really is in your best interest to wait till its ready? The interior timepoints during a beta cycle should be considered far more fluid than the beginning and end timepoints. -jef"how about we publish a detailed minute by minute schedule for each red hat developer...so when mharris fails to finish breakfast on-time...we can specifically harsh him for holding up the entire beta cycle"spaleta

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openafs on taroon
by Jack Neely 30 Aug '03

30 Aug '03

Folks, I'm trying to get OpenAFS 1.2.10 working on taroon. Anyone seen the following? My kernel is 2.4.21-1.1931.2.399.ent. It looks to be an error with mm.h which looks fine to me. Thoughts? Jack Neely gcc -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strength-reduce -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -pipe -march=pentium -D__KERNEL__ -DCPU=586 -DKERNEL -D_KERNEL -DMODULE -D__BOOT_KERNEL_H_ -D__MODULE_KERNEL_i386=1 -D__BOOT_KERNEL_UP=1 -I. -I../ -I/home/slack/RPM/BUILD/openafs-1.2.10/src/config -c ../afs/afs_analyze.c; In file included from ../afs/sysincludes.h:71, from ../afs/afs_analyze.c:19: ../linux/mm.h:203: syntax error before "pte_addr_t" ../linux/mm.h:203: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union ../linux/mm.h:203: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union ../linux/mm.h:204: warning: data definition has no type or storage class ../linux/mm.h:223: syntax error before '}' token ../linux/mm.h:223: warning: data definition has no type or storage class ../linux/mm.h: In function `page_zone': ../linux/mm.h:413: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type ../linux/mm.h: In function `set_page_zone': ../linux/mm.h:418: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type ../linux/mm.h:419: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type ../linux/mm.h: In function `page_mapped': ../linux/mm.h:595: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type ../linux/mm.h: At top level: ../linux/mm.h:605: syntax error before '*' token ../linux/mm.h:605: warning: data definition has no type or storage class make[4]: *** [afs_analyze.o] Error 1 make[4]: Leaving directory `/home/slack/RPM/BUILD/openafs-1.2.10/src/libafs/MODLOAD-2.4.21-1.1931.2.399.ent-UP' make[3]: *** [linux_compdirs] Error 2 make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/slack/RPM/BUILD/openafs-1.2.10/src/libafs' make[2]: *** [libafs] Error 2 make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/slack/RPM/BUILD/openafs-1.2.10' make[1]: *** [build] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/slack/RPM/BUILD/openafs-1.2.10' make: *** [only_libafs] Error 2 error: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.33115 (%build) -- Jack Neely <slack(a)quackmaster.net> Linux Realm Kit Administration and Development PAMS Computer Operations at NC State University GPG Fingerprint: 1917 5AC1 E828 9337 7AA4 EA6B 213B 765F 3B6A 5B89

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up2date for beta still not working
by Mike Chambers 30 Aug '03

30 Aug '03

[root@bart mike]# up2date Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/sbin/up2date", line 20, in ? from up2date_client import up2dateAuth File "up2dateAuth.py", line 5, in ? File "rpcServer.py", line 15, in ? File "/usr/lib/python2.2/socket.py", line 41, in ? from _socket import * ImportError: /lib/libssl.so.4: undefined symbol: krb5_cc_get_principal [root@bart mike]# rpm -q up2date up2date-3.9.18-2 Still not a fix for the beta? Mike --

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up2date and mozilla issues with severn.
by Steven Haigh 29 Aug '03

29 Aug '03

Hi all, I've had Severn installed on my desktop SMP machine for a week or two now, and I have to give a congratulations to all involved... RedHat has come along way since I last used a RH release for my main desktop usage... I think the last one I had on my desktop was 6.0... And as always, my thanks to Alan Cox for his great work with his -ac series of patches for pretty much every kernel version in existance... Great work... I've used RH on all of my servers, including my home firewall etc with excellent results - but usually never install X etc, so even though I'm a long time user, I'm not so cluey with X.... It's the first time I've used a Beta version of RH on any system, and have noticed that I haven't been asked to install any updates since the initial install... Is there something I should have done to get up2date working in severn using beta packages? I get the SSL certificate error, but from what I've read on the list archives, this is a known issue, and I guess it'll be resolved shortly... The second issue I've found has been with Mozilla... It's the one supplied with severn (1.4).. I use it to access my IMAP mail accounts over both SSL and normal. I've noticed that when I hit Ctrl+Shift+C on an IMAP folder to 'mark all as read', it never actually does anything... I've updated to Mozilla 1.5b from mozilla.org, but would prefer to stay with the official RPM's for ease of upgrade later on... Has anyone else come across this? -- Signed, Steven Haigh http://wireless.org.au (Visit https://wireless.org.au to install our Root Certificate.) You can lead a fool to wisdom but you can't make him think. We have enough youth. What we need is a fountain of smart. I am root. If you see me laughing, you better have a backup.

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