2023-02-20 - Fedora QA Meeting - Minutes
by Adam Williamson
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#fedora-meeting: Fedora QA meeting
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Meeting started by adamw at 16:01:09 UTC. The full logs are available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2023-02-20/fedora-qa.202...
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Meeting summary
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* Roll Call (adamw, 16:02:08)
* Previous meeting follow-up (adamw, 16:09:24)
* "adamw to send out mail asking folks to vote on blockers in tickets"
- yeah, uh, I forgot. I'll do it later! I promise! this is also what
I keep saying about all those boxes in the garage (adamw, 16:11:14)
* ACTION: adamw to send out mail asking folks to vote on blockers in
tickets (adamw, 16:11:23)
* Fedora 38 status (adamw, 16:12:16)
* F38 has branched, openQA update test gating is enabled, beta freeze
starts in ~22 hours (adamw, 16:13:03)
* kparal wisely foresaw that tightened package crypto requirements
would cause major problems with popular third-party packages, see
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2170878 , this is
currently going through the normal blocker process but we may well
send it through the fesco blocker process if nobody speaks up to say
our understanding is incorrect (adamw, 16:29:31)
* Test Day / community event status (adamw, 16:31:25)
* sumantro has been off sick so we don't have all dates and details
nailed down yet, but several test days are in the pipeline,
including GNOME, i18n, Cloud, CoreOS, IoT, kernel 6.2, dnf5, and
probably the anaconda web installer (adamw, 16:36:40)
* we're also hoping to run an onboarding session soon (adamw,
16:36:50)
* there are a couple of outstanding workstation wg tickets that relate
to our testing events:
https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/359 and
https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/329 (adamw, 16:43:06)
* Open floor (adamw, 16:47:53)
* ACTION: adamw to read up on how the matrix/irc bridging works for
topic setting, and get sumantro appropriate rights to set topics on
both sides in the test day channel (adamw, 17:00:43)
Meeting ended at 17:04:21 UTC.
Action Items
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* adamw to send out mail asking folks to vote on blockers in tickets
* adamw to read up on how the matrix/irc bridging works for topic
setting, and get sumantro appropriate rights to set topics on both
sides in the test day channel
Action Items, by person
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* adamw
* adamw to send out mail asking folks to vote on blockers in tickets
* adamw to read up on how the matrix/irc bridging works for topic
setting, and get sumantro appropriate rights to set topics on both
sides in the test day channel
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
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* adamw (87)
* chromebittin (28)
* SumantroMukherje (27)
* kparal (23)
* zodbot (7)
* rishi[m] (7)
* coremodule (4)
* neil (3)
* travier (1)
* tflink[m] (1)
* jforbes (1)
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Fedora QA
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1 year, 1 month
f37/f38 "systemd still uses the old version"
by Felix Miata
# mount <yada>
mount: (hint) your fstab has been modified, but systemd still uses
the old version; use 'systemctl daemon-reload' to reload.
mount: (hint) your fstab has been modified, but systemd still uses
the old version; use 'systemctl daemon-reload' to reload.
mount: (hint) your fstab has been modified, but systemd still uses
the old version; use 'systemctl daemon-reload' to reload.
mount: (hint) your fstab has been modified, but systemd still uses
the old version; use 'systemctl daemon-reload' to reload.
#
This recently started in F37 and continues with upgrades to F38. I make /any/
change to fstab, then reboot, and next attempt to mount anything manually that was
nofail or noauto in fstab, or had been mounted and I wish to remount, produces the
above messages, no matter how many boots have occurred since the actual fstab
edit. It used to be that a reboot constituted a systemctl daemon-reload, but that
seems to have disappeared. I found nothing on point in bugzilla. How does it track
what the old fstab contained, or that it changed when any change occurred one or
morer boots ago?
--
Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion,
based on faith, not based on science.
Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!
Felix Miata
1 year, 1 month
How do I upgrade from F37 to Branched (F38)?
by Scott Beamer
Greetings.
My attempts to upgrade landed me in Rawhide instead of Branched.
I know I've been successful in the past with these types of upgrades,
but I don't recall how I did it, and Googling hasn't given me the answer.
TIA
Scott
1 year, 1 month
criterion change proposal: macOS dual-boot
by Kamil Paral
Our current macOS (still called OS X) dual boot criterion says:
"The installer must be able to install into free space alongside an
existing OS X installation, install and configure a bootloader that will
boot Fedora."
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_38_Final_Release_Criteria#OS_X_dual...
I suggest renaming "OS X" to "macOS" in the section title and in the
criterion text. That reflects the name change that Apple did in the past.
I also suggest adding this footnote:
"Footnote: Supported hardware
This criterion only covers Mac devices with an Intel x86_64 processor."
That makes it explicit that we don't support the latest ARM-based M<number>
custom processors, nor the older PowerPC-based devices. I originally wanted
to link to some official Fedora requirements, but we don't seem to have any
(for Macs), so at least a footnote here.
Thoughts?
1 year, 1 month
Fwd: Kernel 6.1.11 F37 x86_64 working
by Luna Jernberg
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Luna Jernberg <droidbittin(a)gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2023 21:29:14 +0100
Subject: Kernel 6.1.11 F37 x86_64 working
To: acaringi(a)redhat.com
Cc: Luna Jernberg <bittin(a)fedoraproject.org>, droidbittin(a)gmail.com,
kernel <kernel(a)lists.fedoraproject.org>
Hey!
Just installed todays kernel update via Koji and dnf and it works as
it should on my system with a Haswell Refresh i7-4790k
1 year, 1 month
2023-02-06 - Fedora QA Meeting - Minutes
by Adam Williamson
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#fedora-meeting: Fedora QA meeting
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Meeting started by adamw at 16:01:18 UTC. The full logs are available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2023-02-06/fedora-qa.202...
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Meeting summary
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* Roll Call (adamw, 16:01:20)
* Previous meeting follow-up (adamw, 16:07:36)
* i got nothin' (adamw, 16:07:37)
* Fedora 38 status (adamw, 16:11:30)
* Rawhide is mostly working fine at the moment, aside from the known
issues with anaconda text/rescue/serial console boot, and the
ongoing mystery with kde not working with the new mesa builds on
llvmpipe (adamw, 16:12:26)
* F38 will branch from Rawhide at some point within the next 28
hoursish (adamw, 16:16:31)
* Test Day / community event status (adamw, 16:24:53)
* the Call for Test Days went out last month:
https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/call-for-fedora-linux-38-test-days/
(adamw, 16:25:12)
* we have tickets for GNOME, i18n, Cloud, FCOS and IoT test events
filed at https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/issues so far, no dates yet
(adamw, 16:26:09)
* Open floor (adamw, 16:27:48)
* ACTION: adamw to send out mail asking folks to vote on blockers in
tickets (adamw, 16:37:56)
Meeting ended at 16:44:34 UTC.
Action Items
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* adamw to send out mail asking folks to vote on blockers in tickets
Action Items, by person
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* adamw
* adamw to send out mail asking folks to vote on blockers in tickets
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
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* adamw (35)
* zodbot (9)
* bcotton (9)
* lruzicka (5)
* kparal (5)
* coremodule (2)
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Fedora QA
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https://www.happyassassin.net
1 year, 1 month
2023-01-23 - Fedora QA Meeting - Minutes
by Adam Williamson
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#fedora-meeting: Fedora QA meeting
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Meeting started by adamw at 16:02:12 UTC. The full logs are available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2023-01-23/fedora-qa.202...
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Meeting summary
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* Roll Call (adamw, 16:02:23)
* LINK: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/fractal/-/issues/963 (adamw,
16:08:53)
* Previous meeting follow-up (adamw, 16:15:27)
* we have no action items from the last two months (adamw, 16:15:54)
* Fedora 38 check-in (adamw, 16:18:41)
* F38 is currently rolling along fine at least up till Friday (adamw,
16:23:13)
* https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Shorter_Shutdown_Timer was
approved, so we should be on the lookout for consequences of that
(adamw, 16:24:23)
* other interesting approved changes:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/AutoFirstBootServices ,
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ModernizeLiveMedia ,
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/RpmSequoia ,
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/LegacyXorgDriverRemoval
(basic graphics mode stuff) (adamw, 16:26:13)
* mass rebuild is currently being tagged in (adamw, 16:30:53)
* Test Day / community event status (adamw, 16:33:14)
* sumantro is not around, so we'll table this for next time (adamw,
16:36:47)
* Open floor (adamw, 16:36:49)
* watch out for a potentially-breaking PackageKit update for F37 (and
Rawhide) in the near future, more details will be provided when
available (adamw, 16:39:55)
Meeting ended at 17:15:26 UTC.
Action Items
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Action Items, by person
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* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
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* adamw (42)
* zodbot (7)
* kparal (7)
* coremodule (7)
* rishi[m] (1)
* nirik (1)
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Fedora QA
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https://www.happyassassin.net
1 year, 1 month