5:30 p.m.
Hello!
As promised, we have pushed FC6 prerelease images to the trackers:
http://torrent.fedoraproject.org/
The following install-blocking bugs have been tested and should be fixed
in these images:
#206876: GRUB claims initrd is too big for memory on x86_64
#206453: installed x86_64/ppc system missing initrd, cannot boot
#206202: Anaconda traceback during lvcreate on ppc64
#206913: Anaconda exception on upgrade from FC5
#208080: ahci/ata_piix mixup causes Anaconda to not find SATA disks
This is not a complete list of bugs fixed, just some of the most
troublesome installer bugs from Test3.
There *is* a known bug when trying to install using Fedora Extras in
this release. Luckily we already have a fix for it that you can use with
these images! Just follow the directions here:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Anaconda/Updates
You can get the update image from here:
http://people.redhat.com/~katzj/updates-fc6pre.img
This will also help us test the Anaconda Update code, so if you're
thinking of using Extras, please give it a shot!
Another note: the keyboard won't work in firstboot. The mouse is fine,
though, so you can click your way through. I believe we already have a
fix for this, but it just didn't make it in time for this release.
Enjoy the updated images, and happy testing. Be sure to keep your
newly-installed FC6pre systems up to date and keep on testing as we make
the final push towards the release of FC6!
-w
8:42 a.m.
As promised, we have pushed FC6 prerelease images to the trackers:
http://torrent.fedoraproject.org/
In general, it is better to use the rescue CD instead of these
FC6Pre torrents.
First, the rescue CD is only 85 to 105 MB (instead of 3.5 to 4.2 GB),
contains the _same_ anaconda functionality, and is updated daily.
Today's rawhide updated a couple dozen packages already. If you use
the rescue CD then you [are forced to] get those updates via HTTP or FTP.
Using the torrent image requires initiative to get those updates,
and you get them via the network anyway.
Second, the rescue CD is available from many mirrors (look in
core/development/$ARCH/iso/ ) instead of just one seed. Both
12 hours ago and now, the ppc torrent has 1 seed, 0 peers, and
a download rate of less than 6KB/s.
Third, testing the rescue CD is more important than testing the
install media. The rescue CD has a history of being the forgotten
stepchild, and has often had serious bugs (even showstoppers and
data corruption), yet _every_ installation is a potential user
of the rescue CD.
For i386 only (where the torrent performs reasonably), and for updating
three or more machines from the same torrent result, and before Monday
(October 2), then I can see the value of the FC6Pre torrent. But otherwise
(not i386, only 1 or 2 machines, or after this weekend) then both you and
Fedora Core probably would be better off using the rescue CD instead.
--
8:52 a.m.
On Sat, Sep 30, 2006 at 06:42:18AM -0700, John Reiser wrote:
Today's rawhide updated a couple dozen packages already. If you
use
the rescue CD then you [are forced to] get those updates via HTTP or FTP.
Using the torrent image requires initiative to get those updates,
and you get them via the network anyway.
The http/ftp functionality in the current (at least as of t2/t3) anaconda
is unusable because it won't fail over between mirror sites when a package
is missing (much the same was the CD needs to fail over to the net too).
Maybe it works in the USA but the UK mirrors are never quite in sync enough
for this to work with anything not at least 3-4 days old.
For i386 only (where the torrent performs reasonably), and for
updating
three or more machines from the same torrent result, and before Monday
(October 2), then I can see the value of the FC6Pre torrent. But otherwise
(not i386, only 1 or 2 machines, or after this weekend) then both you and
Fedora Core probably would be better off using the rescue CD instead.
x86-64 torrent is trickling along ok, not well but good enough to be
practical to test Monday and either file a load more bugs or hopefully
close lots of them.
Alan
8:15 a.m.
Alan Cox wrote:
On Sat, Sep 30, 2006 at 06:42:18AM -0700, John Reiser wrote:
> Today's rawhide updated a couple dozen packages already. If you use
> the rescue CD then you [are forced to] get those updates via HTTP or FTP.
> Using the torrent image requires initiative to get those updates,
> and you get them via the network anyway.
The http/ftp functionality in the current (at least as of t2/t3) anaconda
is unusable because it won't fail over between mirror sites when a package
is missing (much the same was the CD needs to fail over to the net too).
Maybe it works in the USA but the UK mirrors are never quite in sync enough
for this to work with anything not at least 3-4 days old.
Same problems here in southeast USA. This last Thurs..Sat, all I
got was repeated error messages about mirror sites. There doesn't
seem to be any provision (in the gui) to specify additional mirrors.
I Finally got a clean update on Sunday. This last batch cleaned up
a lot of issues I was seeing.
ron
10:18 a.m.
On Sat, 2006-09-30 at 06:42 -0700, John Reiser wrote:
> As promised, we have pushed FC6 prerelease images to the
trackers:
> http://torrent.fedoraproject.org/
In general, it is better to use the rescue CD instead of these
FC6Pre torrents.
First, the rescue CD is only 85 to 105 MB (instead of 3.5 to 4.2 GB),
contains the _same_ anaconda functionality, and is updated daily.
Today's rawhide updated a couple dozen packages already. If you use
the rescue CD then you [are forced to] get those updates via HTTP or FTP.
Using the torrent image requires initiative to get those updates,
and you get them via the network anyway.
Second, the rescue CD is available from many mirrors (look in
core/development/$ARCH/iso/ ) instead of just one seed. Both
12 hours ago and now, the ppc torrent has 1 seed, 0 peers, and
a download rate of less than 6KB/s.
Okay, I would like to do this. I can't get anywhere on the nfs install
from images that I received from the torrent.
So, I have the rescue CD. How does one install via the rawhide?
Use "linux askmethod" and choose http or ftp? What is the URL and/or
FTP address?
Third, testing the rescue CD is more important than testing the
install media. The rescue CD has a history of being the forgotten
stepchild, and has often had serious bugs (even showstoppers and
data corruption), yet _every_ installation is a potential user
of the rescue CD.
For i386 only (where the torrent performs reasonably), and for updating
three or more machines from the same torrent result, and before Monday
(October 2), then I can see the value of the FC6Pre torrent. But otherwise
(not i386, only 1 or 2 machines, or after this weekend) then both you and
Fedora Core probably would be better off using the rescue CD instead.
Send me some instructions: I am ready to get FC6 going before the
weekend is over. :)
Thanks,
Ernest
--
11:48 a.m.
Okay, I would like to do this. I can't get anywhere on the nfs
install
from images that I received from the torrent.
So, I have the rescue CD. How does one install via the rawhide?
boot: linux askmethod vga=788
language, keyboard, HTTP (or FTP), DHCP/IPv4/IPv6, server, pathname
The server is without the "http://" or "ftp://" prefix.
The pathname depends on the mirror, and probably ends in
"/development/i386/os".
The "vga=788" makes VTn be higher resolution.
Use "vga=791" for still higher.
(Omit "vga=..." for non-multisync monitor; gives 640x480).
--
12:10 p.m.
On Sun, 2006-10-01 at 09:48 -0700, John Reiser wrote:
> Okay, I would like to do this. I can't get anywhere on the
nfs install
> from images that I received from the torrent.
>
> So, I have the rescue CD. How does one install via the rawhide?
boot: linux askmethod vga=788
language, keyboard, HTTP (or FTP), DHCP/IPv4/IPv6, server, pathname
The server is without the "http://" or "ftp://" prefix.
The pathname depends on the mirror, and probably ends in
"/development/i386/os".
The "vga=788" makes VTn be higher resolution.
Use "vga=791" for still higher.
(Omit "vga=..." for non-multisync monitor; gives 640x480).
I will try this as soon as I am able to boot from the rescue CD.
Somehow, I got myself into the "grub>" prompt only mode. ):
Thanks,
Ernest
--
6:46 p.m.
On Sat, 2006-09-30 at 06:42 -0700, John Reiser wrote:
Third, testing the rescue CD is more important than testing the
install media. The rescue CD has a history of being the forgotten
stepchild, and has often had serious bugs (even showstoppers and
data corruption), yet _every_ installation is a potential user
of the rescue CD.
Except, in this case, there were a number of install-time
media-install-only things which needed verification
Jeremy
8:26 p.m.
On Sun, 2006-10-01 at 19:46 -0400, Jeremy Katz wrote:
On Sat, 2006-09-30 at 06:42 -0700, John Reiser wrote:
> Third, testing the rescue CD is more important than testing the
> install media. The rescue CD has a history of being the forgotten
> stepchild, and has often had serious bugs (even showstoppers and
> data corruption), yet _every_ installation is a potential user
> of the rescue CD.
Except, in this case, there were a number of install-time
media-install-only things which needed verification
Well, two attempts at a rawhide-based install was no good.
So, I ended up installing from the torrent FC6Pre isos and NFS from my
other laptop.
I did not attempt installing Fedora Extras or all of the games and
entertainment. Now, the NFS-based install went very smooth.
I created a user account after the installation was complete due to the
already known firstboot problem.
I have a Dell Precision M60 so far FC6 is beautiful.
Thanks to the Fedora team and other contributors. Great Job!!!
Thanks,
Ernest
Jeremy
9:02 p.m.
New subject: FC6Pre images relelased! md5sum??
Will Woods wrote:
Hello!
As promised, we have pushed FC6 prerelease images to the trackers:
http://torrent.fedoraproject.org/
The following install-blocking bugs have been tested and should be fixed
in these images:
#206876: GRUB claims initrd is too big for memory on x86_64
#206453: installed x86_64/ppc system missing initrd, cannot boot
#206202: Anaconda traceback during lvcreate on ppc64
#206913: Anaconda exception on upgrade from FC5
#208080: ahci/ata_piix mixup causes Anaconda to not find SATA disks
This is not a complete list of bugs fixed, just some of the most
troublesome installer bugs from Test3.
There *is* a known bug when trying to install using Fedora Extras in
this release. Luckily we already have a fix for it that you can use with
these images! Just follow the directions here:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Anaconda/Updates
You can get the update image from here:
http://people.redhat.com/~katzj/updates-fc6pre.img
This will also help us test the Anaconda Update code, so if you're
thinking of using Extras, please give it a shot!
Another note: the keyboard won't work in firstboot. The mouse is fine,
though, so you can click your way through. I believe we already have a
fix for this, but it just didn't make it in time for this release.
Enjoy the updated images, and happy testing. Be sure to keep your
newly-installed FC6pre systems up to date and keep on testing as we make
the final push towards the release of FC6!
-w
what's the md5sum??
sean
12:47 a.m.
New subject: FC6Pre images relelased! md5sum??
sean wrote:
Will Woods wrote:
> Hello!
>
> As promised, we have pushed FC6 prerelease images to the trackers:
> http://torrent.fedoraproject.org/
>
> The following install-blocking bugs have been tested and should be fixed
> in these images:
> #206876: GRUB claims initrd is too big for memory on x86_64
> #206453: installed x86_64/ppc system missing initrd, cannot boot
> #206202: Anaconda traceback during lvcreate on ppc64
> #206913: Anaconda exception on upgrade from FC5
> #208080: ahci/ata_piix mixup causes Anaconda to not find SATA disks
> This is not a complete list of bugs fixed, just some of the most
> troublesome installer bugs from Test3.
>
> There *is* a known bug when trying to install using Fedora Extras in
> this release. Luckily we already have a fix for it that you can use with
> these images! Just follow the directions here:
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Anaconda/Updates
> You can get the update image from here:
> http://people.redhat.com/~katzj/updates-fc6pre.img
> This will also help us test the Anaconda Update code, so if you're
> thinking of using Extras, please give it a shot!
>
> Another note: the keyboard won't work in firstboot. The mouse is fine,
> though, so you can click your way through. I believe we already have a
> fix for this, but it just didn't make it in time for this release.
>
> Enjoy the updated images, and happy testing. Be sure to keep your
> newly-installed FC6pre systems up to date and keep on testing as we make
> the final push towards the release of FC6!
>
> -w
>
what's the md5sum??
sean
The SHA1SUM is within the torrent itself. If you use torrent, you dont
have to verify this manually anyway.
Rahul
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