Hi all,
Just installed F7T1 i386 on my Acer 4005 x86_64 laptop on a separate partition I had reserved for F7T1. This laptop has an ATI X700 video chipset. On both FC6 and F7T1 anaconda correctly detects the ATI X700 but when it starts X the output gets sent to the external monitor or TV-out port so I only get a black screen. On FC6 I could specify vesa as a boot option which then worked fine. However, F7T1 does understand it needs to use vesa but it fails to start X and it falls back to text mode.
Anyone had similar experiences with using vesa?
Regards, Patrick
On Fri, 2007-02-02 at 03:23 +0100, Patrick wrote:
Hi all,
Just installed F7T1 i386 on my Acer 4005 x86_64 laptop on a separate partition I had reserved for F7T1. This laptop has an ATI X700 video chipset. On both FC6 and F7T1 anaconda correctly detects the ATI X700 but when it starts X the output gets sent to the external monitor or TV-out port so I only get a black screen. On FC6 I could specify vesa as a boot option which then worked fine. However, F7T1 does understand it needs to use vesa but it fails to start X and it falls back to text mode.
Anyone had similar experiences with using vesa?
Why you would do this when the X700 is supported by the radeon driver, I do not know.
The vesa driver in F7t1 ought to include all the latest fixes. If you can scrape /tmp/ramfs/X.log off the machine at install time after the text mode fallback that would probably tell you why it failed.
- ajax
On Mon, 2007-02-05 at 09:22 -0500, Adam Jackson wrote:
On Fri, 2007-02-02 at 03:23 +0100, Patrick wrote:
Hi all,
Just installed F7T1 i386 on my Acer 4005 x86_64 laptop on a separate partition I had reserved for F7T1. This laptop has an ATI X700 video chipset. On both FC6 and F7T1 anaconda correctly detects the ATI X700 but when it starts X the output gets sent to the external monitor or TV-out port so I only get a black screen. On FC6 I could specify vesa as a boot option which then worked fine. However, F7T1 does understand it needs to use vesa but it fails to start X and it falls back to text mode.
Anyone had similar experiences with using vesa?
Why you would do this when the X700 is supported by the radeon driver, I do not know.
Because the output of the screen does not get directed to the laptop screen but to one of the other output ports (external screen, tv-out). So I get a black laptop screen. I chatted about this quite some time back with Mike Harris and iirc he was aware of the issue (this issue is also in FC6).
After installation I also need to add the following line to xorg.conf or else output ports get switched and I get another black laptop screen (at least that was the explanation I read somewhere online):
Option "MonitorLayout" "LVDS,NONE"
Which afaict forces the driver to use the first screen (aka the laptop screen).
The vesa driver in F7t1 ought to include all the latest fixes. If you can scrape /tmp/ramfs/X.log off the machine at install time after the text mode fallback that would probably tell you why it failed.
I'll give it a try. Do you have any tips for me how I can save that file? Is it at that time already possible to copy the file to a usb stick or ftp the file to another host?
Regards, Patrick
On Mon, 2007-02-05 at 16:31 +0100, Patrick wrote:
On Mon, 2007-02-05 at 09:22 -0500, Adam Jackson wrote:
The vesa driver in F7t1 ought to include all the latest fixes. If you can scrape /tmp/ramfs/X.log off the machine at install time after the text mode fallback that would probably tell you why it failed.
I'll give it a try. Do you have any tips for me how I can save that file? Is it at that time already possible to copy the file to a usb stick or ftp the file to another host?
Network should be up by that point, or at least configurable. But yes, USB stick is the other option, and normal mount and cp should be working.
It would also be pleasant to see the X log from trying to use the radeon driver without the MonitorLayout force. I hope we at least see that there's an LVDS panel attached and are just refusing to set it up for some reason.
- ajax
On Mon, 2007-02-05 at 11:24 -0500, Adam Jackson wrote:
On Mon, 2007-02-05 at 16:31 +0100, Patrick wrote:
On Mon, 2007-02-05 at 09:22 -0500, Adam Jackson wrote:
The vesa driver in F7t1 ought to include all the latest fixes. If you can scrape /tmp/ramfs/X.log off the machine at install time after the text mode fallback that would probably tell you why it failed.
I'll give it a try. Do you have any tips for me how I can save that file? Is it at that time already possible to copy the file to a usb stick or ftp the file to another host?
Network should be up by that point, or at least configurable. But yes, USB stick is the other option, and normal mount and cp should be working.
It would also be pleasant to see the X log from trying to use the radeon driver without the MonitorLayout force. I hope we at least see that there's an LVDS panel attached and are just refusing to set it up for some reason.
Ugh I completely forgot to submit the info you asked for. Just had a look and I can't figure out how to mount the USB stick. Can't even find something similar to /var/log/messages so I know what the USB stick is called. Can you please give me a hint?
Thanks, Patrick
On Sun, 2007-04-01 at 19:16 +0200, Patrick wrote:
Ugh I completely forgot to submit the info you asked for. Just had a look and I can't figure out how to mount the USB stick. Can't even find something similar to /var/log/messages so I know what the USB stick is called. Can you please give me a hint?
Run dmesg? Look in /proc/partitions?
If all else fails, scp works too.
- ajax
On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 09:51 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote:
On Sun, 2007-04-01 at 19:16 +0200, Patrick wrote:
Ugh I completely forgot to submit the info you asked for. Just had a look and I can't figure out how to mount the USB stick. Can't even find something similar to /var/log/messages so I know what the USB stick is called. Can you please give me a hint?
Run dmesg? Look in /proc/partitions?
If all else fails, scp works too.
I have attached a copy of X.log. Around line 515 you can see that the tft panel gets detected as secondary which results in black screen.
Hope this helps.
Regards, Patrick
On Sat, 2007-04-07 at 19:47 +0200, Patrick wrote:
On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 09:51 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote:
On Sun, 2007-04-01 at 19:16 +0200, Patrick wrote:
Ugh I completely forgot to submit the info you asked for. Just had a look and I can't figure out how to mount the USB stick. Can't even find something similar to /var/log/messages so I know what the USB stick is called. Can you please give me a hint?
Run dmesg? Look in /proc/partitions?
If all else fails, scp works too.
I have attached a copy of X.log. Around line 515 you can see that the tft panel gets detected as secondary which results in black screen.
This isn't using the vesa driver. Were you expecting it to?
The real issue is that we seem to think you have no monitors attached, which is https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=231359 . I suspect the new radeon driver fixes it but I'm not sure; I'll have packages for testing later today.
- ajax
On Mon, 2007-04-09 at 10:56 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote:
On Sat, 2007-04-07 at 19:47 +0200, Patrick wrote:
On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 09:51 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote:
On Sun, 2007-04-01 at 19:16 +0200, Patrick wrote:
Ugh I completely forgot to submit the info you asked for. Just had a look and I can't figure out how to mount the USB stick. Can't even find something similar to /var/log/messages so I know what the USB stick is called. Can you please give me a hint?
Run dmesg? Look in /proc/partitions?
If all else fails, scp works too.
I have attached a copy of X.log. Around line 515 you can see that the tft panel gets detected as secondary which results in black screen.
This isn't using the vesa driver. Were you expecting it to?
Nope. The X.log file is showing a normal boot of the F7t3 install dvd without vesa on a laptop with the X700.
The real issue is that we seem to think you have no monitors attached, which is https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=231359 . I suspect the new radeon driver fixes it but I'm not sure; I'll have packages for testing later today.
Thanks for the BZ. That one describes the problem I experienced too. If the new packages will be included in F7t4 I'll be happy to test F7t4 on the laptop with the X700 again to see if it fixed the issue and report back.
Regards, Patrick
On Mon, 2007-04-09 at 10:56 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote:
On Sat, 2007-04-07 at 19:47 +0200, Patrick wrote:
On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 09:51 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote:
On Sun, 2007-04-01 at 19:16 +0200, Patrick wrote:
Ugh I completely forgot to submit the info you asked for. Just had a look and I can't figure out how to mount the USB stick. Can't even find something similar to /var/log/messages so I know what the USB stick is called. Can you please give me a hint?
Run dmesg? Look in /proc/partitions?
If all else fails, scp works too.
I have attached a copy of X.log. Around line 515 you can see that the tft panel gets detected as secondary which results in black screen.
This isn't using the vesa driver. Were you expecting it to?
The real issue is that we seem to think you have no monitors attached, which is https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=231359 . I suspect the new radeon driver fixes it but I'm not sure; I'll have packages for testing later today.
Okay, so a day late, but:
http://people.redhat.com/ajackson/ati/
has a snapshot build of 6.6.191. It seems to be working okay for me, but I'd like confirmation from a few other people before rawhiding it, there's been a lot of churn between 6.6.3 and now.
- ajax
On Tue, 2007-04-10 at 17:30 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote:
Okay, so a day late, but:
http://people.redhat.com/ajackson/ati/
has a snapshot build of 6.6.191. It seems to be working okay for me, but I'd like confirmation from a few other people before rawhiding it, there's been a lot of churn between 6.6.3 and now.
Working fine here so far on an x1300 (as vesa currently). Am I suppose to be using vesa or radeon in my xorg.conf with this version?
On Tue, 2007-04-10 at 17:37 -0500, Mike Chambers wrote:
On Tue, 2007-04-10 at 17:30 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote:
Okay, so a day late, but:
http://people.redhat.com/ajackson/ati/
has a snapshot build of 6.6.191. It seems to be working okay for me, but I'd like confirmation from a few other people before rawhiding it, there's been a lot of churn between 6.6.3 and now.
Working fine here so far on an x1300 (as vesa currently). Am I suppose to be using vesa or radeon in my xorg.conf with this version?
radeon. The vesa driver is provided in a package named xorg-x11-drv-vesa.
- ajax
On Tue, 2007-04-10 at 19:06 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote:
On Tue, 2007-04-10 at 17:37 -0500, Mike Chambers wrote:
On Tue, 2007-04-10 at 17:30 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote:
Okay, so a day late, but:
http://people.redhat.com/ajackson/ati/
has a snapshot build of 6.6.191. It seems to be working okay for me, but I'd like confirmation from a few other people before rawhiding it, there's been a lot of churn between 6.6.3 and now.
Working fine here so far on an x1300 (as vesa currently). Am I suppose to be using vesa or radeon in my xorg.conf with this version?
radeon. The vesa driver is provided in a package named xorg-x11-drv-vesa.
Except, of course, that x1300 won't work with radeon at all, thanks ATI.
- ajax
On Tue, 2007-04-10 at 19:08 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote:
On Tue, 2007-04-10 at 19:06 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote:
On Tue, 2007-04-10 at 17:37 -0500, Mike Chambers wrote:
On Tue, 2007-04-10 at 17:30 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote:
Okay, so a day late, but:
http://people.redhat.com/ajackson/ati/
has a snapshot build of 6.6.191. It seems to be working okay for me, but I'd like confirmation from a few other people before rawhiding it, there's been a lot of churn between 6.6.3 and now.
Working fine here so far on an x1300 (as vesa currently). Am I suppose to be using vesa or radeon in my xorg.conf with this version?
radeon. The vesa driver is provided in a package named xorg-x11-drv-vesa.
Except, of course, that x1300 won't work with radeon at all, thanks ATI.
Yep, still experiencing that (as in they haven't updated or helped update teh radeon driver yet ot work with the newer cards?).
On Wed, 2007-04-11 at 04:21 -0500, Mike Chambers wrote:
On Tue, 2007-04-10 at 19:08 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote:
Except, of course, that x1300 won't work with radeon at all, thanks ATI.
Yep, still experiencing that (as in they haven't updated or helped update teh radeon driver yet ot work with the newer cards?).
Not only have they not submitted any code to the open driver, they have also refused to let us release the patch to enable it.
http://airlied.livejournal.com/31180.html
If anyone from AMD, or one of their OEMs, wants to see this fixed, please contact me off-list and we can make some noise.
If you're not one of those people, you should let your OEM know how important open source graphics support is to you.
- ajax