1) This is a beta. Right. We expect things not working perfectly. But we expect to be able to install (even some glitches) and to boot. If we aren't able to do this, we will be frustrated and we will be unable to provide any help in hunting bugs. another point is that the people on this list care about Fedora's success and we don't want Fedora getting a bad name due to bad releases or betas who are in pre-pre-alpha stage (see below before you get defensive on this) 2) I think the reason myself and a lot of people haven't been able to boot could be linked to recording software. I had the same problem with Mandrake, I solved it, I don't remember how, I think it involved telling to xcdroast to record at a higher or lower capacity than 80 minutes. Since this is the xcdroast from Redhat 9 it is probable that the iso images have been built with mastering utilities who don't play well with recording at 80 minutes capacity: ie the CDs are readable (some people have succeded in making a mediacheck on CDs who didn't boot) but the boot record will not be detected by the BIOS 3) The boot.iso image is in a state who is completely unacceptable even for a beta. In normal times this would not be a major problem since most people would install from CD and would not see it. But since many people have been unable to boot from CD they have stumbled upon it. It does not make FC2T2 a joke (ie I withdraw my words about it) but as I said above boot.iso is in inacceptable state -- Jean Francois Martinez <jfm512(a)free.fr&gt;