5:01 p.m.
Hi!
Some links I came across today and thought people here might enjoy, to
kick-start the conversation:
http://lwn.net/Articles/379423/rss - Luis Villa's post from Planet on
why mailing lists are like parties is now on LWN.
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=problem-solved-tic-tac-t...
"In a blog post in January 2009, Gowers asked whether spontaneous online
collaborations could crack hard mathematical problems—and if they could
do so in the open, laying the creative process out for the world to see."
--Mel
7:10 p.m.
On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 06:01:48PM -0400, Mel Chua wrote:
Hi!
Some links I came across today and thought people here might enjoy, to
kick-start the conversation:
http://lwn.net/Articles/379423/rss - Luis Villa's post from Planet on
why mailing lists are like parties is now on LWN.
Now that he and Mo have laid out some good ideas, I hope we can see
some stuff soon. It's pretty good advancement. Having it
multi-interface compatible is pretty key, simple, open.
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=problem-solved-tic-tac-t...
"In a blog post in January 2009, Gowers asked whether spontaneous online
collaborations could crack hard mathematical problems—and if they could
do so in the open, laying the creative process out for the world to see."
Nice! That is certainly a great story to tell, so you could post it
and write a few paras here:
https://www.theopensourceway.org/wiki/Great_stories_to_tell
One reason it is a story is because it is made up of multiple
applications of the open source way. We'll want to start linking from
the stories, or ... having some kind of pattern language-like usage as
I did in the one story currently on that page.
We may want to be looking at ways in which we are applying this
pattern language:
http://grouppatternlanguage.org/Home
And, wow, look at this that just appeared today, an application of the
standard pattern language to online communities:
http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2010/03/18/applying-a-pattern-language-to...
- Karsten
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1:19 a.m.
> http://lwn.net/Articles/379423/rss - Luis Villa's post from
Planet on
> why mailing lists are like parties is now on LWN.
Now that he and Mo have laid out some good ideas, I hope we can see
some stuff soon. It's pretty good advancement. Having it
multi-interface compatible is pretty key, simple, open.
Yep yep. For those who aren't readers of
http://planet.fedoraproject.org, the posts Karsten and I are referencing
are at
http://mairin.wordpress.com/2010/03/16/a-rich-web-interface-for-mailing-l...
and http://tieguy.org/blog/2010/03/17/lists-parties/ - Mairin ("Mo")
Duffy, Luke Macken, and Luis Villa kick around an interesting idea.
Nice! That is certainly a great story to tell, so you could post it
and write a few paras here:
https://www.theopensourceway.org/wiki/Great_stories_to_tell
I added it to the list.
One reason it is a story is because it is made up of multiple
applications of the open source way. We'll want to start linking from
the stories, or ... having some kind of pattern language-like usage as
I did in the one story currently on that page.
We may want to be looking at ways in which we are applying this
pattern language:
http://grouppatternlanguage.org/Home
And, wow, look at this that just appeared today, an application of the
standard pattern language to online communities:
http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2010/03/18/applying-a-pattern-language-to...
Whoa. This is really cool.
I'm a bit overwhelmed, though - I'm not sure how to apply all these
things to the one story (which I've only read the single article for).
Maybe we could have storytelling time at some point, and then others
could point out (inline) where various principles applied?
I'm not even sure I can remember very many of them - I think I've
internalized this stuff so much I'm having a hard time remembering the
names and numbers. Maybe each principle needs a snappy catchprase - some
already have them, like "Quiet projects stay quiet. Noisy projects get
noisier" - but, for instance, "You need a version controlled repository
for content - code and documentation and art and etc" is less catchy.
--Mel
10:46 a.m.
On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 02:19:37AM -0400, Mel Chua wrote:
I'm a bit overwhelmed, though - I'm not sure how to apply all
these
things to the one story (which I've only read the single article for).
Maybe we could have storytelling time at some point, and then others
could point out (inline) where various principles applied?
I'm not even sure I can remember very many of them - I think I've
internalized this stuff so much I'm having a hard time remembering the
names and numbers. Maybe each principle needs a snappy catchprase - some
already have them, like "Quiet projects stay quiet. Noisy projects get
noisier" - but, for instance, "You need a version controlled repository
for content - code and documentation and art and etc" is less catchy.
Yeah, we can work on reworking sections to be snappier sounding. I
don't think we can totally (ab)use the pattern language method, but I
like at least some call outs about how many ways a story implements
the open source way.
Added to the big task list:
https://www.theopensourceway.org/wiki/Big_task_list#Content
... a list which could maybe be (re)visioned in Trac instead ...
- Karsten
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name: Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Community Gardener
team: Red Hat Community Architecture
uri: http://TheOpenSourceWay.org/wiki
gpg: AD0E0C41
11:20 a.m.
Added to the big task list:
https://www.theopensourceway.org/wiki/Big_task_list#Content
... a list which could maybe be (re)visioned in Trac instead ...
So here's a crazy idea: book sprint.
Maybe with the http://writingopensource.org folks.
Maybe around a major event like OSCON.
We seem to have a bunch of things queueing up here, and I'm guessing in
a few months we might be able to really go ninja on this stuff in a
short period of time with a lot of people.
--Mel
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