Hey!
Just tested it worked for me in a Virtualbox VM other then some
translations missing as i reported in the Anaconda Matrix, but the
installation process went smooth, also it identifies as F39 and F40
but you explained why:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/232742985882796032/11417701338581772…
so its all fine and looking forward to when the translation is Merged
fully for Beta or Final and hope this will come with Fedora 39 and not
be delayed until 40 as i helped pretty much with the Swedish
translation and with some of the testing
Den tors 17 aug. 2023 kl 18:04 skrev Martin Kolman <m4rtink(a)fedoraproject.org>:
>
> Hi!
>
> As the final switch of the Fedora Workstation Live image to using the new Anaconda Web UI by default[0] draws closer, we now have finally most of the building blocks in place & have created a test image, that should represent quite well how the actual Workstation Live image will look like after the switch:
>
> https://fedorapeople.org/groups/anaconda/webui/temp/Fedora-Workstation_GIS.…
>
> The installation flow is quite different from how it was on <=F38:
>
> - the image boots into a Gnome Initial Setup running in a minimal Gnome Shell session[1]
> - this GIS will ask the user to select language and keyboard, then provides an option to either install Fedora or try the Fedora desktop
> - if the Install option is selected, the Anaconda Web UI will be started
> - if the "try desktop" option is selected, the selected keyboard and language should be used for the desktop (on this image, only keyboard is used for some reason)
> - using the Web UI, the user can configure partitioning & Fedora will be installed on the target system afterwards
> - quitting the installer after successful installation will reboot the Live environment to the new system
> - then Gnome Initial setup will start again, as usual during regular Fedora Workstation installations
> - it will asks user to configure the remaining bits, like user, timezone or online accounts
> - it will also ask again for language & keyboard - this is a known issue in process of being fixed
>
> Some testing of this image will be much appreciated! :) Issues that are identified & fixed thanks to this can hopefully make the transition & overall F39 release into a smoother ride. :)
>
> Please fill any issues you spot into Bugzilla, under the regular Fedora product and anaconda component & mark you new bugs as blocking on bug 2231339.
> Bug 2231339[2] is the main tracking bug for the F39 WebUI effort & marking any relevant bugs as blocking on this bug will help us keep track of them.
> You can also check the bugs blocking the tracker bugs to see if your issue has perhaps been already reported.
>
> Thanks in advance & looking forward to your bug reports and general feedback. :)
>
> Best Wishes
> Martin Kolman
>
> [0] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/AnacondaWebUIforFedoraWorkstation
> [1] https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/362
> [2] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2231339
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Dear colleagues,
fedora-websites-3-0 contains the following string:
Dragon Player is a multimedia player where the focus is on simplicity,
instead of features. Its simple interface is designed not to get in your
way and instead empower you to simply play multimedia files.
The above string can be found easily within Weblate by replacing
'state:<translated' (in the menu bar) with 'Dragon Player is' and typing
ENTER.
The above string is used on the following page:
https://fedoraproject.org/spins/lxqt/
and on every translation of that page,for example:
https://fedoraproject.org/nl/spins/lxqt/
However, it seems that the two sentences have been copied from:
https://apps.kde.org/dragonplayer/
This page is translated in many languages, you may have to use the
language selection menu at the top of the page to get the English version.
The aforementioned page of KDE has the following paragraph:
Dragon Player is a multimedia player where the focus is on simplicity,
instead of features. Dragon Player does one thing, and only one thing,
which is playing multimedia files. Its simple interface is designed not
to get in your way and instead empower you to simply play multimedia files.
Therefore, it appears that two of these three sentences have been
copied. In my judgement, this is a clear violation of copyright.
Violations of copyright can have very serious consequences. I recommend
that you replace your string as soon as possible.
Incidentally, it occurred to me that the Fedora website is not regularly
regenerated lately. My Dutch translations do not take effect on the
website lately. Perhaps someone is on holiday. Can't we have the Fedora
website regenerated every 24 hours automatically?
Kind regards,
Maarten
username: minerva
On Sat, Jun 17, 2023 at 11:35 AM Dave Crossland <dave(a)lab6.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jun 12, 2023, 4:51 PM pravin.d.s(a)gmail.com <pravin.d.s(a)gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> On Mon, 12 Jun 2023 at 02:39, Dave Crossland <dave(a)lab6.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm the Noto product owner at Google Fonts, I expect the wider range of
>>> styles available by itself would make Noto fonts a better choice :) I would
>>> be happy to hear any aspects of Lohit that are superior
>>>
>>
>> Lohit follows an open source development methodology. One can provide a
>> patch to the sfd file. We are building from source in Fedora.
>> AFAIK Noto is only available in binary format. (TTF).
>>
>> But given its already used for many languages, we can definitely go ahead
>> for India fonts as well.
>> What i suggest:
>> 1. Lets Noto get installed by default.
>> 2. Lets have Lohit fontconfig priority more than Noto, so if someone
>> installing it manually, it will become default for particular Indian
>> languages.
>>
>
> I love it!
>
>>
Thank you everyone for the feedback so far.
Since the feedback so far seems generally positive, I started drafting
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Indic_Noto_fonts proposal for Fedora
39.
Have given the relative fonts priorities some thought... while in theory I
am sympathetic to the novel priority suggestion, it is probably not
realistic in practice: we have never done default fonts changes that way
before in Fedora so I think it would set a bad precedent, but I think we
should make sure that if one uninstalls the Noto Indic fonts, the Lohit
fonts should still remain the default - I do think that should be possible.
Thanks, Jens
Hi, we have been thinking about the default fonts for Indic (Indian)
scripts in Fedora.
For many languages in Fedora we are already using Google's open-source Noto
fonts (for most Western languages and also Arabic and CJK (Chinese,
Japanese and Korean) and more, not least Emoji too. Also already for
Gurmukhi (Punjabi) and Sinhala.
$ rpm -qa google-noto-*-fonts | wc -l
26
Noto fonts have the advantage that they are available in different faces
("Sans" and "Serif") and multiple weights (also as Variable Fonts (VF),
which can save a lot of space). They also seem to be generally actively
maintained.
So we would like feedback on how Indian Fedora users feel about using the
Indic Noto fonts compared to Lohit fonts (which we haven't been able to
maintain actively for some time now), given the above advantages.
Sudip Shil has prepared some comparison screenshots using his fonts-compare
tool of Lohit vs Noto: see
https://sshil.fedorapeople.org/lohit-vs-noto-comparison.html
To easily test Noto yourself, Sudip Shil has also prepared a Copr repo
which contains the Lohit fonts rebuilt with lower priority:
https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/sshil/indic-fonts-test which needs
to be enabled:
$ sudo dnf copr enable sshil/indic-fonts-test
Furthermore it is necessary to install the corresponding Noto VF fonts
$ sudo dnf install google-noto-sans-devanagari-vf-fonts
google-noto-sans-bengali-vf-fonts google-noto-sans-gujarati-vf-fonts
google-noto-sans-kannada-vf-fonts google-noto-sans-oriya-vf-fonts
google-noto-sans-tamil-vf-fonts google-noto-sans-telugu-vf-fonts
Then run:
$ sudo dnf update lohit-*-fonts
*Note*: if you are on Fedora Rawhide you currently have to "dnf remove
lohit-*-fonts" instead, since the Indic Noto fonts there have lower
priority currently.
And now you should see Noto as the default for most Indic scripts:
$ for lang in as bho bn brx doi gu hi hne kn kok mai ml mni mr or pa sa sat
ta te; do echo -en "$lang\t" ; fc-match :lang=$lang family; done
You may prefer to try this first in a test VM, or to shut down your
important applications using Indic text first before changing the fonts on
your system.
The instructions on Sudip's Copr repo also include the steps for undoing
these changes.
Do let us know what you think of the Noto fonts compared to Lohit for Indic
scripts.
If they look good we can consider switching those scripts to default to
Noto.
Jens
--
Fedora & Red Hat i18n team
On Mon, 12 Jun 2023 at 02:39, Dave Crossland <dave(a)lab6.com> wrote:
> I'm the Noto product owner at Google Fonts, I expect the wider range of
> styles available by itself would make Noto fonts a better choice :) I would
> be happy to hear any aspects of Lohit that are superior
>
Lohit follows an open source development methodology. One can provide a
patch to the sfd file. We are building from source in Fedora.
AFAIK Noto is only available in binary format. (TTF).
But given its already used for many languages, we can definitely go ahead
for India fonts as well.
What i suggest:
1. Lets Noto get installed by default.
2. Lets have Lohit fontconfig priority more than Noto, so if someone
installing it manually, it will become default for particular Indian
languages.
Regards,
Pravin
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