For the Chinese languages: 22Chinese (Simplified)zh_CN23Chinese (China) (GB2312) 24Chinese (Hong Kong) 25Chinese (Traditional)zh_TW26Chinese (Taiwan) (Big5) Can we set 23. Chinese (China) default to zh_CN, and 24. Chinese (Hong Kong) and 26. Chinese (Taiwan) default to zh_TW? 2014-10-15 12:59 GMT+08:00 Noriko Mizumoto <noriko(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;: > Hi team coordinators > > I have created the language list and added in the spreadsheet[1]. There > are a couple of unclear issues to me and I like to ask for your help. > > ALL language: Please check your language and confirm whether the code to > be used is correct. Open with zoho and fill 'Yes' if correct, or 'No' if > not and enter correct code into next column. > > Cornish: In the team list, there are four language names listed with > five language codes. Could you confirm which languages with which codes > to be added in new instance? > > Portuguese (Brazil): In the team list, the code is pt_br. Do you wish to > have all 'br' in lowercase, but not capital? > > Serbian (Latin): In the team list, the code is sr@latin. Please confirm > this is correct? > > Languages in Green: There is no such team formed in the team list, thus > we expect no translation to be submitted until the team is formed. I am > thinking to remove them from the final list. Please advise if any other > opinion/thought/suggestion. > > [1]: > https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bynxy3ec1cs0NWw5cWJSZVZMa1E/view?usp=sha... > > cheers > > noriko > -- > trans mailing list > trans(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/trans

2014-10-15 11:40 GMT+03:00 Tom Ka Chun Chiu <tomchiukc(a)gmail.com <mailto:tomchiukc@gmail.com>>: Also, should not the code for Estonia be "ee" instead of "et"? It comes from their native name: "eesti" instead of "estonian". No, language code is et; ee ís country code

2014-10-15 13:22 GMT+03:00 Noriko Mizumoto <noriko(a)fedoraproject.org <mailto:noriko@fedoraproject.org>>: (2014年10月15日 18:55), Marek Laane wrote: 2014-10-15 11:40 GMT+03:00 Tom Ka Chun Chiu <tomchiukc(a)gmail.com <mailto:tomchiukc@gmail.com> <mailto:tomchiukc@gmail.com <mailto:tomchiukc@gmail.com>>>: Also, should not the code for Estonia be "ee" instead of "et"? It comes from their native name: "eesti" instead of "estonian". No, language code is et; ee ís country code Thank you for clarification! Now I can't see Estonia team in the team list[1]. Are you leading Estonia team? If so, could you kindly review this page[2] and check if all steps being taken? It is nice to show off that Fedora is supporting such various languages:-) If no team, is any point to add? I am wondering if we may skip this language for now but wait for a team to be formed in the future. [1]:https://fedoraproject.org/__wiki/L10N_Teams <https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N_Teams> [2]:https://fedoraproject.org/__wiki/L10N_Maintainer <https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N_Maintainer> noriko Well, I really don't know. There has been Fedora (or rather RedHat yet) translation in long gone past which has carried on and on. I myself am rather Mandriva/Mageia translator and have touched Fedoras translations mostly as much as Mandriva/Mageia and Fedora have something common (system-config-printer, usermode, maybe something else). For doing so, I had to register as Fedora translator and as Transifex user etc, so yes, I suppose, formallu I am Fedora translator, too, be there team (for Estonian) or not. But I have no real intention to become "full-time" Fedora translator at least in near future; OTOH I'd like to have an option to fix or to update some files, especially if they are relevant to Mageia ... (And anyway, as far as I know, Estonian still has quite much translated strings in Fedora, so I guess it would be not thrown away? Even if there is recently nobody to actively translate it?)

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Chinese (Hong Kong) uses zh_HK, although they don't have much manpower to translate and use zh_TW as fallback or just use zh_TW directly. Tom Ka Chun Chiu <tomchiukc(a)gmail.com&gt; 於 2014年10月15日星期三寫道： For the Chinese languages: > > 22Chinese (Simplified)zh_CN23Chinese (China) (GB2312) 24Chinese (Hong > Kong) 25Chinese (Traditional)zh_TW26Chinese (Taiwan) (Big5) > > Can we set 23. Chinese (China) default to zh_CN, and 24. Chinese (Hong > Kong) and 26. Chinese (Taiwan) default to zh_TW? > > 2014-10-15 12:59 GMT+08:00 Noriko Mizumoto <noriko(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;: > >> Hi team coordinators >> >> I have created the language list and added in the spreadsheet[1]. There >> are a couple of unclear issues to me and I like to ask for your help. >> >> ALL language: Please check your language and confirm whether the code to >> be used is correct. Open with zoho and fill 'Yes' if correct, or 'No' if >> not and enter correct code into next column. >> >> Cornish: In the team list, there are four language names listed with >> five language codes. Could you confirm which languages with which codes >> to be added in new instance? >> >> Portuguese (Brazil): In the team list, the code is pt_br. Do you wish to >> have all 'br' in lowercase, but not capital? >> >> Serbian (Latin): In the team list, the code is sr@latin. Please confirm >> this is correct? >> >> Languages in Green: There is no such team formed in the team list, thus >> we expect no translation to be submitted until the team is formed. I am >> thinking to remove them from the final list. Please advise if any other >> opinion/thought/suggestion. >> >> [1]: >> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bynxy3ec1cs0NWw5cWJSZVZMa1E/view?usp=sha... >> >> cheers >> >> noriko >> -- >> trans mailing list >> trans(a)lists.fedoraproject.org >> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/trans > > > -- Cheers, by Cheng-Chia Tseng -- trans mailing list trans(a)lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/trans

2014-10-15 11:47 GMT+02:00 Yaron Shahrabani <sh.yaron(a)gmail.com&gt;: > > Hey, I was just wondering, why aren't we using ISO-639? > We are using a de facto standard used by glibc and gettext, which is heavily based on ISO-639 (with some minor differences). It's compatible with most (if not all) free software, especially our downstream projects and important upstreams (GNOME, KDE, etc.). We discussed it quite extensively at <https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1128967>;. Best regards,

ALL language: Please check your language and confirm whether the code to be used is correct. Open with zoho and fill 'Yes' if correct, or 'No' if not and enter correct code into next column.

(2014年10月15日 20:11), Besnik Bleta wrote: > On 10/15/2014 07:59 AM, Noriko Mizumoto wrote: >> ALL language: Please check your language and confirm whether the code to >> be used is correct. Open with zoho and fill 'Yes' if correct, or 'No' if >> not and enter correct code into next column. > > Can you please paste the list here for all of us who can not/do not want > to use Google Drives and Zohos? Indeed, right. I am sorry being lazy. Here we go. No. Language Code 1 Acoli 2 Afrikaans 3 Albanian sq 4 Albanian Gheg 5 Amharic 6 Arabic ar 7 Amenian 8 Assamese as 9 Astsurian ast 10 Azerbaijani 11 Balochi bal 12 Basque eu 13 Belarusian 14 Bengali bn 15 Bengali (India) bn_IN 16 Bodo brx 17 Bosnian bs 18 Breton br 19 Bulgarian bg 20 Burmese 21 Catalan ca 22 Chinese (Simplified) zh_CN 23 Chinese (China) (GB2312) 24 Chinese (Hong Kong) 25 Chinese (Traditional) zh_TW 26 Chinese (Taiwan) (Big5) 27 Cornish kw 28 Cornish (Unified) kw-GB 29 Cornish (Unified, Revised) kw-uccor 30 Cornish (Common) kw-ucrcor 31 kw-kkcor 32 Croatian 33 Czech cs 34 Danish da 35 Dutch nl 36 Dzongkha 37 English (British) en_GB 38 English (United States) en_US 39 Esperanto eo 40 Estonian 41 Finnish fi 42 French fr 43 Galician gl 44 Georgian ka 45 German de 46 German (Switzerland) 47 Greek el 48 Gujarati gu 49 Hebrew he 50 Hindi hi 51 Hungarian hu 52 Icelandic is 53 Iloko 54 Indonesian id 55 Interlingua ia 56 Irish 57 Italian it 58 Japanese ja 59 Kannada kn 60 Kashimiri 61 Kazakh kk 62 Khmer km 63 Kirgyz ky 64 Korean ko 65 Kurdish 66 Lao 67 Latin 68 Latvian lv 69 Lithuanian lt 70 Low German nds 71 Macedonian mk 72 Maithili mai 73 Malagasy 74 Malay ms 75 Malayalam ml 76 Marathi mr 77 Mongolian mn 78 Nepali ne 79 Northern Sotho 80 Norwegian no 81 Norwegian Bokmal nb 82 Norwegian Nynorsk nn 83 Oriya or 84 Punjabi pa 85 Persian fa 86 Polish pl 87 Portuguese pt 88 Portuguese (Brazil) pt_br 89 Romanian ro 90 Russian ru 91 Russian (Russia) 92 Serbian sr 93 Serbian (Latin) sr@latin 94 Sinhala si 95 Slovak sk 96 Slovenian sl 97 Spanish es 98 Swedish sv 99 Tagalog 100 Tajik tg 101 Tamil ta 102 Telugu te 103 Thai 104 Tibetan bo 105 Turkish tr 106 Twi tw 107 Ukrainian uk 108 Urudu ur 109 Uzbek 110 Vietnamese 111 Warao wba 112 Welsh cy 113 Wolof 114 Xhosa 115 Zulu noriko > > Cheers, > Besnik > -- > trans mailing list > trans(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/trans -- trans mailing list trans(a)lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/trans

> Can you please paste the list here for all of us who can not/do not want > to use Google Drives and Zohos?

98 Swedish sv

(2014年10月15日 20:11), Besnik Bleta wrote: > On 10/15/2014 07:59 AM, Noriko Mizumoto wrote: >> ALL language: Please check your language and confirm whether the code to >> be used is correct. Open with zoho and fill 'Yes' if correct, or 'No' if >> not and enter correct code into next column. > > Can you please paste the list here for all of us who can not/do not want > to use Google Drives and Zohos? Indeed, right. I am sorry being lazy. Here we go.

No. Language Code 33 Czech cs

noriko

Hi team coordinators I have created the language list and added in the spreadsheet[1]. There are a couple of unclear issues to me and I like to ask for your help. ALL language: Please check your language and confirm whether the code to be used is correct. Open with zoho and fill 'Yes' if correct, or 'No' if not and enter correct code into next column. OK, for Chinese (Simplified), zh_CN

Languages in Green: There is no such team formed in the team list, thus we expect no translation to be submitted until the team is formed. I am thinking to remove them from the final list. Please advise if any other opinion/thought/suggestion.

I can safely say that it is indeed correct. Overall, the whole list is correct, with the exceptions of:

* pt_br (as noted above)

* en_US shouldn't provide any PO files. American English serves as the C (default) locale.

* Chinese (China) (GB2312) and Chinese (Taiwan) (Big5) - these look redundant, we should have just "zh_CN" for Chinese (Simplified) and "zh_TW" for Chinese (Traditional) [and optionally "zh_HK" for Chinese (Hong Kong), as noted by Cheng-Chia Tseng]. There is no need to have separate teams for languages with specified encodings. I don't know how these teams made it into our Transifex.

* no (Norwegian) is an umbrella code for two "variants" of Norwegian: nb (Norwegian Bokmål) and nn (Norwegian Nynorsk). Only nb and nn should provide PO files.

* I'm also not sure about Cornish. I would prefer to have only one translation team (our resources are finite, after all), but it's ok if any active Cornish translator thinks we need more.

* Twi language appeared on the list with the "tw" code. I didn't know there is any movement to translate FLOSS into Twi (and I'd be happy if there would be), but the glibc locale code appears to be "ak" (similarly to ISO 639-1). If we have any volunteers to translate into Twi, we should probably use ak language code.

Thank you for working on this and best regards,

(2014年10月15日 22:05), Piotr Drąg wrote: > * no (Norwegian) is an umbrella code for two "variants" of Norwegian: > nb (Norwegian Bokmål) and nn (Norwegian Nynorsk). Only nb and nn > should provide PO files. Should 80 be removed, and 81 and 82 remains? Can the team coordinator or someone confirm? 80 Norwegian 81 Norwegian Bokmal nb Yes? 82 Norwegian Nynorsk nn Yes?

Thank YOU for helping the teams!! noriko

Hi team coordinators I have created the language list and added in the spreadsheet[1]. There are a couple of unclear issues to me and I like to ask for your help. ALL language: Please check your language and confirm whether the code to be used is correct. Open with zoho and fill 'Yes' if correct, or 'No' if not and enter correct code into next column. Cornish: In the team list, there are four language names listed with five language codes. Could you confirm which languages with which codes to be added in new instance? Portuguese (Brazil): In the team list, the code is pt_br. Do you wish to have all 'br' in lowercase, but not capital? Serbian (Latin): In the team list, the code is sr@latin. Please confirm this is correct? Languages in Green: There is no such team formed in the team list, thus we expect no translation to be submitted until the team is formed. I am thinking to remove them from the final list. Please advise if any other opinion/thought/suggestion. [1]: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bynxy3ec1cs0NWw5cWJSZVZMa1E/view?usp=sha... cheers noriko -- trans mailing list trans(a)lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/trans

2014-10-15 14:45 GMT+02:00 Marcelo Barbosa <firemanxbr(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;: > Noriko, > > About portuguese brazilian code I believe be the best choice use lower > code: pt_br, in TX was created pt_BR, in Fedora locate what is best option ? > Fedora software use "pt_BR", just like our upstream projects. Best regards, -- Piotr Drąg http://raven.fedorapeople.org/ -- trans mailing list trans(a)lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/trans

Hi team coordinators I have created the language list and added in the spreadsheet[1]. There are a couple of unclear issues to me and I like to ask for your help. ALL language: Please check your language and confirm whether the code to be used is correct. Open with zoho and fill 'Yes' if correct, or 'No' if not and enter correct code into next column. Cornish: In the team list, there are four language names listed with five language codes. Could you confirm which languages with which codes to be added in new instance? Portuguese (Brazil): In the team list, the code is pt_br. Do you wish to have all 'br' in lowercase, but not capital? Serbian (Latin): In the team list, the code is sr@latin. Please confirm this is correct? Languages in Green: There is no such team formed in the team list, thus we expect no translation to be submitted until the team is formed. I am thinking to remove them from the final list. Please advise if any other opinion/thought/suggestion. [1]: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bynxy3ec1cs0NWw5cWJSZVZMa1E/view?usp=sha... cheers noriko -- trans mailing list trans(a)lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/trans