Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10?
by Mike Bird
QUESTION TO DEVELOPERS: Is there any hope of a full KDE 3.5
in F10, plus an upgrade path from F8 to F10 that preserves
KDE 3.5 configurations?
KDE 4.0 is incomplete and not suitable for most users.
KDE 4.1 will be incomplete and not suitable for most users.
The KDE devels are debating whether KDE 4.2 will be usable.
The pro-plasma crowd argue that it is theoretically possible
to implement a desktop by KDE 4.2, but that everyone should
change to using the folderview and forget about real desktops.
Probably control center will be fixed by KDE 4.2. It's
debatable whether Dolphin will ever have the usability that
KDE 3.5 Konqueror had, but if it does it won't be until KDE 4.2
at the earliest. F9 already includes a usable KMenu to replace
the KDE 4.0 joke, although the usable KMenu is not the default.
I'm not a KDE developer but I do have users that need to get
work done and they are not interested in a religious conversion
to plasmoids. After reading a lot of KDE developer discussions
my best guess is that KDE 4.3 is the earliest possibility for
most KDE users, but no guarantees.
This puts us in something of a quandary. F9 KDE 4.0 is hugely
annoying to most KDE users. F8 KDE 3.5 still works fine of
course but IIRC security updates will end in six months.
QUESTION TO DEVELOPERS: Is there any hope of a full KDE 3.5
in F10, plus an upgrade path from F8 to F10 that preserves
KDE 3.5 configurations?
--Mike Bird
15 years, 9 months
gnome-system-monitor -- most of the views greyed out.
by Bill Case
Hi;
I use gnome-system-monitor all the time. Leave it on the upper left
corner of my top panel. In F9 I find that all the options other than
Memory Maps and Open Files are greyed out -- and they do nothing
discernible. I can no longer choose All processes, active processes or
my processes.
The processes reflected in the main window are only the processes of the
logged in user. I now have to sudo to see root processes etc.
Is this deliberate or a bug?
--
Regards Bill;
Fedora 9, Gnome 2.22.2
Evo.2.22.2, Emacs 22.2.1
15 years, 9 months
reinstall grub
by Scott van Looy
I have a standard install of fedora 9
It's dual booting with Vista
Vista broke (gparted ate it before I get any snide comments =P) so I had
to reinstall it
grub was my boot manager that had Vista as an option, now grub is gone.
I know I can reinstall Fedora to get grub back in the right place, but is
there a way of just running the grub install bit of the setup, so I don't
have to reinstall?
Scott
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15 years, 9 months
Hardware browser??
by Beartooth
Fedora always used to have a hardware browser; for a while it had
two, one with endless cryptic detail, and one highly simplified.
Now I find neither. Has it (or have they) been renamed? Can I add
it with yum? Some other way?
--
Beartooth Staffwright, PhD, Neo-Redneck Linux Convert
Remember I know precious little of what I am talking about.
15 years, 9 months
Re: Periodic Fedora 9 system hangs with jumpy mouse
by Steve Dowe
I have this problem too.
Deron Meranda wrote:
> Okay, so Xorg ran away last night ... <snip>
> it should have been a completely idle unused system.
>
> Anyway, concerning the Xorg driver module, this is a brand new
> install of F9 (not an upgrade). All the software is part of the base F9
> repo; nothing 3rd party was added. Everything was auto-detected.
>
Ditto. I have the most up to date versions of X, etc at the time or
writing. Same kernel too (2.6.25.6-55.fc9.x86_64).
> The Xorg driver chosen for this was:
> /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//radeon_drv.so
>
> My screen is 1440 x 900 x 24, monitor is DELL E198WFP
>
Mine's 1680x1050. Using an HP Compaq 6715b laptop with ATI Radeon
Express X1250,
>> from level 3 boot, remove driver, then use 'yum install' to bring your
>> driver back in and reboot to load it. driver may be fried.
>>
>
> The driver is coming from the package xorg-x11-drv-ati-6.8.0-14.fc9.i386
> I did an rpm verify on it,
> rpm -V -v xorg-x11-drv-ati-6.8.0-14.fc9.i386
> and that said all the files were intact and correct.
>
Again, same. My drivers seem to be present and correct.
>
>> kde, gnome? have you tried any minimal desktops? something may, tho i
>> would doubt, be different in how you bring up x.
>>
>
> Haven't tried other desktops other than Gnome, but I have disabled
> all the fancy effects, etc.
>
>
I can confirm this occurs in both KDE and GNOME on my system.
> The system runs perfectly fine; until that magic moment when the
> Xorg process runs away. Or is that the kernel that is running away?
> I wish I knew how to debug the kernel better; because it just doesn't
> appear to be a user-space problem.
>
The cause of this problem on my system seems to be when dragging
(resizing) a window. X then seems to hang, the pointer gets jumpy and
the whole desktop is unresponsive. Being SSH'd in from another machine,
I could see Xorg at 99-100% CPU. This never seems to happen when
dragging a whole window, just when I try to resize one. I haven't
noticed this happening at all by using a scroll bar (but I'm not saying
this fault hasn't been triggered that way too..). The only way I can
recover is a hard reboot - holding down the power button. Issuing "init
6" or "reboot" makes no difference - it just hangs, which makes me think
this is kernel- rather than X-related.. :-(
I'm afraid I cannot offer the same diagnostics as Deron without a little
instruction, but I'd like to help to resolve this.. ;-)
FWIW, I'm downloading the debug flavour of the current kernel. I'm
going to reboot into that and see if I can get more output in the log(s)...
Is it possible that the Radeon driver can be triggering a bug in the
kernel (which hangs X)?
All the best,
Steve
15 years, 9 months
virtmanager, qemu-kvm and keyboard
by Christoph Höger
Hi,
Ive got a little problem with my virtmanager here.
I installed a debian just for testing into a qemu-kvm driven machine.
Everything seems to work fine, except that I get a lot of "unknown
keycode 0x0" errors, when I press "-" key or other essential keys.
Is there a workaround?
regards
Christoph
15 years, 9 months
Re: why all are thinking in that way only?
by Parshwa Murdia
dear g,
**************
g:
as i mentioned to you before, tech support list are a strange bunch.
some trusting, some not. i apologize for not going into more detail. :o)
just like i think your new 'subject:' is ok because it is a strange subject
for a list like this.
***************
u are not going into the details, so please don't apologize because nobody
is saying u to go into the details, this mail was only for those who have
already let me know about the keyloggers.
subject was not strange but as i was new to the list, some fellow let me
know that the subject should be the same.
***************
g:
others will look just to see what you are up to now.
others may have passed over it thinking that they were not interested
because
they just are not interested.
some, no reflection to 'poc', will think as he did. which may have brought
response. others not, because to them, it is a dead subject.
*********************
people on the list are very good and it is an educational list, i have
learned too much and got the doubts cleared.
*********************
g:
from response so far, you are getting a good response and at least, so far,
no one is telling you how 'stupid' or 'dumb' you are for even asking. no
reflection to 'craig' or his 'beavus' and 'butthead'.
*******************
one person can say according to his own feelings and knowledge, so actually
your words : 'stupid' and 'dumb' have shown the level of your own stupidity
and dumbness.
***********
g:
all in all, it does help to chose your 'subject:' as best you can. let it
sit for a while and if no response, think of a way to change it to have
more meaning.
**************
u always (since i know u) act as a useless mentor who because your
suggestions are non-technical in nature.
*********************************
g:
in reading your post, as is evident from above line, you have trouble in
grasping 'proper' english. this is not a put down, just an understanding
of why you are going to run into problems from time to time.
*******************************
u are the only person in the world if u are not facing any problem, and also
the first person of this kind.
**********************
g:
as a suggestion for a 'subject:' line format,
'subject: [distribution, version] [hardware | program | operation]
[problem]'
then in body of post give more detail.
when thru, run a spell checker.
have heart. in time you will get 'hang of it' just as you are doing in
communicating in english.
perseverance.
hth. [i hope this helps you]
and no, my 'oops' and google was not by accident.
*******************
as already said, ur majority of the responses are non-technical in nature.
those who understood the problem, have let known the issue.
at the last but not the least, as you have been suggesting me (without i
asked), so i would also join a list for learning english much better and i
would thank to you for the suggestions.
regards,
parshwa
15 years, 9 months
speaking of grub graphical boot...
by Tom Horsley
I have from time to time tried to make my own grub boot
image. I've seen all the rules I'm supposed to follow about
making it the right size and the right number of colors, and
my own attempts often work out fine.
But then there are those other times, when I'll have an
image that looks perfectly fine in gimp, or eog, or whatever,
but when grub displays it, the colors are completely wacked
out - not at all like the colors specified in the xpm file.
Anyone know what rule I am missing about restrictions
on the images?
15 years, 9 months
Re: why all are thinking in that way only?
by Parshwa Murdia
linux boxes in the local cybercafe in india is not there, 99% of cyber cafe
are using windows only. even people don't know anything what's there in the
cyber cafe, they have the habbit of saying anything in vain!!
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> 4. Re: Xfce xfburn missing? (Wong Kwok-hon)
> 5. Re: Xfce xfburn missing? (Rahul Sundaram)
> 6. PPTP VPN (tony.chamberlain(a)lemko.com)
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> 8. Re: F9 NFS install fails (Tim)
> 9. Re: Selinux and awstats (Claude Jones)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 06:19:23 -0700
> From: stan <goedigi89__e(a)cox.net>
> Subject: Re: A way to use wine to run eprom updates for DVD drives?
> To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list(a)redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <4868DD5B.4060106(a)cox.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
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> Roberto Malinverni wrote:
> >> -----Messaggio originale-----
> >> Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 15:09:15 -0700
> >> From: stan <goedigi89__e(a)cox.net>
> >> Subject: A way to use wine to run eprom updates for DVD drives?
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> The subject says it all. Is there a way to use wine to
> >> update the BIOS
> >> on DVD drives (and other devices)? When I tried it, it just hung the
> >> process.
> >>
> >> Or another way, without using Windows (I don't have any MS OS)?
> >>
> >
> > It depends on the brand of your drives: NEC/OPTIARC can be flashed
> natively
> > in Linux
> > thanks to binflash (it can use both exe and bin files).
> >
> Don't have NEC.
> > In other cases, you have to use something like a "Windows live cd" (I
> don't
> > remember the link, but you need a copy of the XP install CD anyway) or a
> > good old DOS floppy boot disk.
> > Roberto.
> >
> That's what I thought, but wanted to check. :-(
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:20:03 +0200
> From: "Gianluca Cecchi" <gianluca.cecchi(a)gmail.com>
> Subject: re: F9 NFS install fails
> To: fedora-list(a)redhat.com
> Message-ID:
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> I successfully installed some days ago f9 x86_64 this way on a laptop:
> - on F9 x86 server I have f9_x86_64.iso file and mount it as a loop
> device; then I export the mounted path via nfs
> - on laptop I install f9_x86_64 via nfs.
>
> Note that in my case I used an usb key as boot device for the laptop.
> For doing that I had to use the diskboot.img from f8 and then
> overwrite kernel and initrd with what provided in boot.iso of f9.
> I also had to delete the splash image because the new files didn't fit
> on the size of the f8 media.
> But the installation went fine.
>
> I don't know if you can boot from usb, though....
>
> Gianluca
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> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 08:51:40 -0430
> From: "Patrick O'Callaghan" <pocallaghan(a)gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Mirror bandwidth and user redirection
> To: fedora-list(a)redhat.com
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> On Sun, 2008-06-29 at 23:46 -0500, Matt Domsch wrote:
> > The basic selection algorithm for choosing
> > the order in which to return mirrors to clients remains the same:
> > prefer same netblocks, internet2 in same country if on internet2, same
> > country, same continent, then global, in that order.
>
> That's totally logical, but it's wrong for some cases. Here in Venezuela
> there is much better bandwidth to the US than to anywhere else in South
> America, so the "same continent" rule is not going to work for us. I
> suspect the same is true for some other SA countries.
>
> Also, for the relatively few people on Internet2 it's always better than
> Internet1, at least here. I mean Internet2 to anywhere is better than
> Internet1 to the same city.
>
> poc
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 21:38:21 +0800
> From: "Wong Kwok-hon" <kwokhon(a)gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Xfce xfburn missing?
> To: "For users of Fedora" <fedora-list(a)redhat.com>
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> So it is crossed ? I meant it used gnome apps... not Xfce itself...
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 6:04 PM, Rahul Sundaram
> <sundaram(a)fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> > Wong Kwok-hon wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> I used xfce and feel it is faster but I cannot found the xfburn so I
> >> cannot burn CD/DVD.
> >>
> >> Would you tell me where can I get the xfburn rpm ?
> >
> > Xfburn is not in Fedora because it was unreliable. Xfce team uses
> GnomeBaker
> > instead. Brasero can also be used as a alternative.
> >
> > Rahul
> >
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 19:15:49 +0530
> From: Rahul Sundaram <sundaram(a)fedoraproject.org>
> Subject: Re: Xfce xfburn missing?
> To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list(a)redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <4868E38D.2080306(a)fedoraproject.org>
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> Wong Kwok-hon wrote:
> > So it is crossed ? I meant it used gnome apps... not Xfce itself...
>
> Not sure what you mean. Xfburn and gnomebaker just uses GTK. There is
> nothing desktop environment specific about them.
>
> Rahul
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 13:48:38 +0000
> From: tony.chamberlain(a)lemko.com
> Subject: PPTP VPN
> To: fedora-list(a)redhat.com
> Cc: "Brown, Jake" <jbrown(a)intelegra.biz>
> Message-ID: <W332371870896741214833718@webmail36>
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> Fedora user's group:
>
> I installed the PPTP VPN on a client to connect via pptpvpn to a server
> which is running it. I used pptpconfig to config the network. When I
> connect, the VPN runs fine. I looked in pptpconfig and saw it does a
>
> /usr/sbin/pppd call myserver logfd 1 updetach persist
>
> (I used "myserver" in this mail instead of the actual name). So I made a
> file
> /etc/init.d/pptpvpn where under start) I do the above (along with some
> checking,
> etc). This also works nicely, when I but (after chkconfig on) the VPN comes
> up and I can connect.
>
> Problem is, if somehow the pptp process dies, if it is in /etc/init.d it
> won't start up
> automatically again (which I need), so instead I transfered to
> /etc/inittab:
>
> vp:35:respawn:/usr/sbin/pppd call myserver logfd 1 updetach persist
>
> A "kill -1 1" or reboot will start this, but a ps just shows two processes
> with that
> but I can't ping. A few minutes later it shows two processes again but with
> new
> PIDs. Then a few minutes later two new processes with the same parameters
> (there are only 2 at a time). I can't ping anything on the VPN either (and
> I do
> add the routes in ip-up.local so from the /etc/rc5.d script it starts up
> the route).
>
> Anyway how can I either modify my script in /etc/init.d (linked to
> /etc/rc*.d) to respawn
> in the (unlikely but possible) case the process dies, or modify
> /etc/inittab to work
> correctly?
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 08:56:01 -0500
> From: Kevin Martin <kevintm(a)ameritech.net>
> Subject: Re: Regarding the keylogger in the linux fedora systems
> To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list(a)redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <4868E5F1.1050304(a)ameritech.net>
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>
>
> Frank Murphy wrote:
> > On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 10:19 +0200, Andrew Kelly wrote:
> >
> > Would not a simple: script -a some.log
> > do the trick re terminal without compromising pw(s)
> > Have it launched when a console is opened?
> >
> > Frank
> >
> >
> >
> >
> The individual may also want to log IRC, IM, etc. Even "messaging" in
> online games might want to be logged...depends on how crafty the
> kids/spouse/whoever are.
>
> K
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 23:32:52 +0930
> From: Tim <ignored_mailbox(a)yahoo.com.au>
> Subject: Re: F9 NFS install fails
> To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list(a)redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <1214834572.4004.1.camel(a)gonzales.lan.cameratim.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain
>
> Tim:
> >> Wouldn't a DVD ISO be too large to fit on a FAT drive? I thought
> >> they had a 2 gig file size limit.
>
> Craig White:
> > mkfs can format up to 32 GB vfat volumes last time I checked. I
> > believe that Windows can format larger.
>
> That's partition sizing, my comment was about file size limits. I can't
> recall at what point the mickeysoft file system got past that limit.
>
> --
> [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -r
> 2.6.25.6-55.fc9.i686
>
> Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I
> read messages from the public lists.
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 10:37:01 -0400
> From: Claude Jones <cjones(a)levitjames.com>
> Subject: Re: Selinux and awstats
> To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list(a)redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <200806301037.01651.cjones(a)levitjames.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> On Mon June 30 2008, Daniel J Walsh wrote:
> >
> > Well you can remove the emacs back up file.
> >
> > /etc/selinux/targeted/contexts/files/file_contexts.local~
> >
>
> I did that
>
> > Everything looks fine.
> >
> > If you execute
> >
> > matchpathcon /var/lib/awstats
> >
> > Does it report an error now?
>
> Seems it does:
>
> # matchpathcon /var/lib/awstats
> /etc/selinux/targeted/contexts/files/file_contexts: Multiple different
> specifications for /usr/share/awstats/wwwroot/cgi-bin(/.*)?
> (system_u:object_r:httpd_sys_script_exec_t:s0 and
> system_u:object_r:httpd_awstats_script_exec_t:s0).
> /var/lib/awstats system_u:object_r:awstats_var_lib_t
> --
> Claude Jones
> Brunswick, MD, USA
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 17:55:43 +0300
> From: Axel Thimm <Axel.Thimm(a)ATrpms.net>
> Subject: Re: Online resizing NTFS & ext3
> To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list(a)redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <20080630145543.GA3499(a)victor.nirvana>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 07:48:35PM +0200, Roberto Ragusa wrote:
> > Axel Thimm wrote:
> >> I have a running F9 installation where I want to move some free space
> >> from the NTFS partition to Fedora's.
> >
> > It is important to understand how your disk is configured. (LVM?)
> >
> > Please post the output of
> >
> > fdisk -l /dev/sda
> > df
> >
> > things like those.
>
> I was hoping the solution would be generic, but here is my specific
> setup:
>
> # /sbin/fdisk -l /dev/sda
>
> Disk /dev/sda: 120.0 GB, 120034123776 bytes
> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 14593 cylinders
> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
> Disk identifier: 0x79b87714
>
> Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
> /dev/sda1 1 192 1536000 27 Unknown
> Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary.
> /dev/sda2 * 192 7488 58609664 7 HPFS/NTFS
> /dev/sda3 7489 7501 104422+ 83 Linux
> /dev/sda4 7502 14593 56966490 5 Extended
> /dev/sda5 7502 14593 56966458+ 8e Linux LVM
> --
> Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 08:20:59 -0500
> From: Bruno Wolff III <bruno(a)wolff.to>
> Subject: Re: ifdown. is it really down?
> To: g <geleem(a)bellsouth.net>
> Cc: for users of fedora <fedora-list(a)redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <20080630132059.GA27553(a)wolff.to>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 17:14:29 +0000,
> g <geleem(a)bellsouth.net> wrote:
> > i am currently using f8 with most of updates install. not sure if
> ifup/ifdown
> > is among them.
> >
> > i have a growing concern about operation of ifup and ifdown.
> >
> > i am noticing that when i 'ifdown eth0' is still see flashing of ethernet
> led
> > on a 2wire 2701hg-b dsl modem.
> >
> > it was my understanding that using ifup and ifdown that this 2 commands
> would
> > bring ethernet connection up and down, but ethernet led on modem is now
> making
> > me believe other wise.
>
> I don't believe that it is normal to power down the device when ifdown is
> run. So the device will still flash is traffic is sent to it.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 08:25:45 -0500
> From: Bruno Wolff III <bruno(a)wolff.to>
> Subject: Re: Dependency resolution failed
> To: stan <goedigi89__e(a)cox.net>
> Cc: For users of Fedora <fedora-list(a)redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <20080630132545.GB27553(a)wolff.to>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 18:31:35 -0700,
> stan <goedigi89__e(a)cox.net> wrote:
> > Luis Orlindo Tedeschi wrote:
> >> Folks; I've been trying to update Fedora 9 since last week and I keep
> >> getting Dependency Resolution Failed. It says Missing Dependency:
> >> tcl-devel = 1:8.5.1 is needed by package 1:tk-devel: 8.5.1-4.fc9.i386.
> >> Does anyone have a solution for this? Thanks in advance.
> >>
> >>
> > It is trivial to do the following. (as root)
> > yum list updates > updates
> > Edit updates to leave only the packages. Put #! /bin/bash at the top.
>
> You don't need to do that any more. Yum will skip the broken packages.
> (I don't think skip_broken is the default, so you probably want to add
> that option to /etc/yum.conf .)
>
> > When I was using rawhide I automated this with scripts and python
> > programs (well, more sophisticated than this). There are almost always
> > dependency errors in rawhide, so you would never get any updates if you
> > didn't do something like this.
>
> Things should be much better now. (THe change happened during the F9
> rawhide
> period.) Only some file conflicts which are detected after the packages to
> be updated are selected, cause all updates to fail.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 23:12:45 +0800
> From: Ed Greshko <Ed.Greshko(a)greshko.com>
> Subject: Re: Mirror bandwidth and user redirection
> To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list(a)redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <4868F7ED.4090008(a)greshko.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>
> Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > On Sun, 2008-06-29 at 23:46 -0500, Matt Domsch wrote:
> >> The basic selection algorithm for choosing
> >> the order in which to return mirrors to clients remains the same:
> >> prefer same netblocks, internet2 in same country if on internet2, same
> >> country, same continent, then global, in that order.
> >
> > That's totally logical, but it's wrong for some cases. Here in Venezuela
> > there is much better bandwidth to the US than to anywhere else in South
> > America, so the "same continent" rule is not going to work for us. I
> > suspect the same is true for some other SA countries.
>
> The same is also true for Asia. I would hope that the "same continent"
> rule
> has a tad bit more smarts in it.
>
> > Also, for the relatively few people on Internet2 it's always better than
> > Internet1, at least here. I mean Internet2 to anywhere is better than
> > Internet1 to the same city.
> >
> > poc
> >
>
>
> --
> Children begin by loving their parents. After a time they judge them.
> Rarely, if ever, do they forgive them.
> -- Oscar Wilde
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 14
> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:16:23 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Beartooth <Beartooth(a)swva.net>
> Subject: Re: Hardware browser??
> To: fedora-list(a)redhat.com
> Message-ID: <pan.2008.06.30.15.16.22(a)swva.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 22:36:53 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 2008-06-29 at 18:44 +0000, Beartooth wrote:
> >> Fedora always used to have a hardware browser; for a while it had
> >> two, one with endless cryptic detail, and one highly simplified.
> >>
> >> Now I find neither. Has it (or have they) been renamed? Can I add
> >> it with yum? Some other way?
> >>
> >>
> > yum install lshw-gui
> >
> > should see you sorted.
>
> Hmm ... Neat name, impressive command; but is there a way to make
> it usable by subtechnoids? Can I pipe the -xml or -html options into a
> browser, for instance? Or something into baobab for it to use as labels?
>
> Most recent example : I got the livna display configuration kmod-
> nvidia stuff, and it helped; but it didn't tell me whether to use the
> nvidia configurator or the livna one, or both; and the livna page warned
> me that I might have any of several cards.
>
> I'd like to check that last, and tackle it again. One of the old
> hardware browsers, iirc, would have enabled even me to find out what
> video card I have. (An electronic friend is kind enough to assemble
> machines to meet my budget, every year or three; but I never needed to
> know one video card from another -- till I got this blankety-blank new
> monitor ...)
>
>
> --
> Beartooth Staffwright, PhD, Neo-Redneck Linux Convert
> Fedora 8 & 9; Alpine 1.10, Pan 0.132; Privoxy 3.0.6;
> nine (count 'em -- nine) different browsers
> Remember I know precious little of what I am talking about.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 15
> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 10:17:59 -0500
> From: Mike Chambers <mike(a)miketc.com>
> Subject: Dual Athlon cpu
> To: Fedora <fedora-list(a)redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <1214839079.20797.11.camel(a)scrappy.miketc.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain
>
> Running dual athlons using the i386 (or 686 depending the package) F9
> release (this is an x86_64 system), is there some services that need to
> be enabled for them to be maximized in their use? Things such as
> cpuspeed and such need to be on? In other words (and not that
> knowledgeable in this area), can you even tell if it's being used
> correctly, and if your just doing small things, such as checking email,
> browsing, those type things, is it used then as well, or more for when
> doing things like compiling one program, then doing all the other stuff
> like normal?
>
> Hope I worded my question right LOL
>
> --
> Mike Chambers
> Fedora Project - Ambassador, Bug Zapper, Tester, User, etc..
> mikec302(a)fedoraproject.org
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 16
> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:26:22 +0100
> From: "Paul Smith" <phhs80(a)gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: png2txt -
> To: "For users of Fedora" <fedora-list(a)redhat.com>
> Message-ID:
> <6ade6f6c0806300826k3359afe2sa9ed1257ade768d3(a)mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 5:32 PM, Bob Goodwin USA
> <bobgoodwin(a)wildblue.net> wrote:
> > fred smith wrote:
> >>>>> Is there an F8 application that will convert a .png copy of a text
> list
> >>>>> to a text file?
> >>>>
> >>>> ----
> >>>> png is a picture file and there is no text.
> >>>>
> >>>> If you want OCR (optical character recognition - software that scans a
> >>>> picture for recognizable text and saves the recognized text to a
> file),
> >>>> I would suggest tesseract.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks, I will look at that.
> >>>
> >>
> >> I believe that Tesseract only understands TIF files, so you will need
> >> to convert the png before you can OCR them.
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Yes, I discovered that requirement but now I am stumped by -
> >
> > The command line is:
> > tesseract <image.tif> <output> [-l langid]
> >
> > I thought "-l enUS" might work but no go there.
> >
> > There's no man page, only a README and that doesn't tell me about the
> langid
> > other than it wants it. Without it I get very strange looking text.
>
> Unfortunately, the OCR programs working in Linux are not very good
> yet. In case you have access to Acrobat Professional, use it instead;
> the results are usually excellent.
>
> Paul
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 17
> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 08:33:25 -0500
> From: Bruno Wolff III <bruno(a)wolff.to>
> Subject: Re: why all are thinking in that way only?
> To: "Patrick O'Callaghan" <pocallaghan(a)gmail.com>
> Cc: fedora-list(a)redhat.com
> Message-ID: <20080630133325.GC27553(a)wolff.to>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 00:12:45 -0430,
> Patrick O'Callaghan <pocallaghan(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 09:56 +0530, Parshwa Murdia wrote:
> > > when i asked for the keylogger in my system, why people thought of
> > > illegal
> > > activities only? it is MINE system and for use only in my system, i am
> > > asking and further more, like one must have knowledge of viruses and
> > > then
> > > only he can create an antivirus, similarly it is for the knowledge of
> > > keylogger to prevent the thefts
> >
> > Because most people associate keyloggers with spying, and you didn't say
> > why you wanted it. If you had given this perfectly reasonable
> > explanation in the first place, I doubt anyone would have objected.
>
> Right, because if he was planning on installing a keylogger on the linux
> boxes in the local cybercafe, he would have been sure to tell us that and
> not make up some story about just using it on his machine to learn how to
> look for keyloggers other people had installed.
>
>
>
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