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Re: BRAINDEAD IDIOT -> Re: USER SHOULD BE UNSUBSCRIBED
by n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 04 Jul '12

04 Jul '12

On 07/04/2012 09:15 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 04.07.2012 10:01, schrieb n2xssvv.g02gfr12930: > _____________________ > > WHY IN THE WORLD ARE YOU FUCKING TOO STUPID TO READ THE > MAIL-FOOTER AND CLICK ON THE DAMNED LINK - YOU HAVE > SUBSCRIBED AT YOUR OWN SO DO THE SAME FOR UNSUBSCRIBE > AND LEAVE US ALL FUCK IN PEACE > > users mailing list > users(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe or change subscription options: > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users > You are welcome to speak for yourself when you indulge hypocritically in the practices you complain about. I will not indulge in insulting you as it is unnecessary

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After sleep, telnet on local host fails
by Jonathan Ryshpan 03 Jul '12

03 Jul '12

After waking my system up from sleep mode, telnet on the local host doesn't work for a minute or two. Here's a typical attempt, which was run about a minute after waking the system up: $ telnet localhost 25 Trying ::1... telnet: connect to address ::1: Connection refused Trying 127.0.0.1... telnet: connect to address 127.0.0.1: Connection refused After a minute or two sendmail works fine. This is no biggie, the only bad consequence is that fetchmail won't fetch anything for a minute or two; but it would be nice to know what's going on. jon

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hibernate and suspend broken on F17 i686 desktop
by Greg Woods 03 Jul '12

03 Jul '12

I have an i686 desktop (dual core 2GHZ Pentium 4), on which suspend and hibernate have not worked properly since sometime in the 3.1 kernel series. This system has 4GB RAM and uses the PAE kernel. Under F16, I kept updating the kernel and finding each time that suspend and hibernate did not work, and so kept running the older kernel. Eventually I had to move to F17. What happens with the newer kernels is, if I suspend, the machine appears to suspend (last line on the screen is the one about "suspending console, set no_console_suspend to debug" and then it hangs (never powers off). Of course if I power it off manually, the suspended image is lost and it reboots from scratch. If I hibernate it, it does write the hibernate image to disk, prints the "suspending console, set no_console_suspend to debug" line, and again hangs without powering off. If I power off the machine with the power button, on reboot it does resume properly from the hibernate image, so I think the problem is just that it's no longer powering the machine off after suspend/hibernate is complete. The BIOS settings have not been changed from when it was working. This is similar to some other threads I've seen here, but ironically, in my case, the F17 kernels hibernate and suspend just fine on a pair of x86_64 laptops I have (one Dell and one Sony VAIO). It's only the desktop where they don't work. I'm hoping, of course, that somebody will have a magic boot time kernel parameter recipe I can try that might work, or failing that, a pointer to some documentation on how to debug suspend/hibernate problems. TIA, --Greg

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powerdown restarts
by Geoffrey Leach 03 Jul '12

03 Jul '12

This problem has been submitted to Bugzilla (836657), but I thought I'd ask here to see if there are any fixes lurking. System is running 3.4.3-1.fc17.x86_64. When I systemctl poweroff the kernel reboots instead of powering off. Under Windows 7, power off works as expected. All packages are up-to-date. Any ideas?

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Optical media drive emulation in linux kernel
by JD 03 Jul '12

03 Jul '12

Does it exist? What about kernel add-on packages that would insert the pseudo-driver shim and the apps to use it?

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Re: F17 XDMCP
by Ken Smith 03 Jul '12

03 Jul '12

> > > > > Gordon Messmer wrote: >> On 07/02/2012 07:08 AM, Ken Smith wrote: >>> >>> I would suggest deprecated as the settings for the function have been >>> buried. It suppose it depends on how you define deprecated. >> >> No, they haven't. They're still in custom.conf, where they've been >> for some time. The buried settings discussed earlier apply to GDM, >> which has not itself been deprecated. >> >>> If I try the access the FC17 VM with "X -query ..." from the FC13 host >>> or the C6 VM, the machine switches desktop as expected and then >>> displays >>> the circular mouse icon on a black screen and then the desktop freezes. >>> Cntl-Alt F1 or 2 etc then do nothing. >> >> It sounds like the X server is crashing or locking up. Try this: >> Reset the machine running the X server. Possibly reset the F17 host >> as well, since it's complaining about too many sessions from your X >> server host. When you run X -query, capture data using strace: >> >> strace -f -s 256 X -query ... > /var/tmp/xtrace.txt 2>&1 >> >> After the X server locks, cancel the trace with Ctrl+C. Don't send >> the file to the list, because it'll be large. I don't think it has >> any sensitive data in it, so maybe compress it and post it somewhere >> it can be retrieved (http://ge.tt ?) or send it to me. What we're >> looking for is output from glibc similar to what I included >> previously. It'll be on lines near the end which indicate calls to >> writev(). I have just sent the below to Gordon off list with an attached file with the traces. Hi Gordon, I attach a tar.gz file with the traces. It only 500k so e-mail should cope. These were done with the FC13 machine, that acts as the VM host, as an X server and the FC17 VM acting as an X client. The FC17 was freshly booted. I had a ssh session logged in to the FC13 from another machine as I was expecting to lose control of the desktop of the FC13 machine during these tests. The file xtrace.txt is a trace using Xnest from a normal user account on the FC13 X server. The file xtrace2.txt is a trace of a repeat of the last Xnest command but this time a login desktop appeared and allowed me to start entering logon details before it vanished off the screen The file xtrace3.txt is a trace of a "X -query ..." command from a normal user account on the FC13 X server The file xtrace4.txt is a trace of a "X -query ..." command from the root account on the FC13 X server. As previously the desktop switched to the new X display and it showed a small round icon that was movable with the mouse. The file xtrace4-copy.txt is a copy of xtrace4.txt made after running the "X -query ..." command but before rebooting that machine to regain control of the desktop. There's some interesting things in that xtrace4.txt file about malloc and memory corruption. Hope this helps Ken -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.

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Can DHCP deamon expire leases "lazily"?
by Tom Horsley 03 Jul '12

03 Jul '12

I've got some virtual machines with old kernels that know nothing about virt clocks. They keep time so horribly when loaded up with testbed runs that they forget to renew their DHCP lease, which results in their name being removed from the DNS server, which results in testbed failure :-(. Does anyone know if it is possible to configure the DHCP daemon to just leave expired leases active until it actually needs to reuse the IP address for a new request? Lacking that, I suppose I can identify the handful of machines that exhibit this problem and give them static IPs...

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F17 XDMCP
by Ken Smith 03 Jul '12

03 Jul '12

Hi, I in danger of making this a rant, but is XDMCP no longer something that Fedora supports? I have just installed F17 x64 in a VM to tinker with it and systemd and I'd like to enable XDMCP. Or what is the favoured remote access method these days. I've put DisallowTCP=0 in the [security] section and Enable=1 in the [xdmcp] section of custom.conf in /etc/gdm/ and opened port 177 UDP in the firewall on the F17 machine. Oddly, on my remote X server when I run "X -query machinename :1" the desktop of the remote X server freezes when connecting to this rogue F17 install. As I would expect I can see an open UDP session on UDP 177 but I don't see any traffic on TCP 6000 or 6001 that I would expect. The same remote X server connects to FC6, Centos5.6 etc etc without any issue. What gives? Thanks for any hints and guidance. Ken -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.

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socket files in /tmp/at-spi2
by Alexander Volovics 03 Jul '12

03 Jul '12

When starting up Fed17 a number of 'sockets' get created in /tmp/at-spi2. The same when starting apps. However these sockets are not removed when closing the apps or shutting down Fed17. So the number of these sockets keeps increasing. Is this normal behaviour or should I file a bug? Alexander

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mobile broadband
by mulkesh sharma 03 Jul '12

03 Jul '12

sir i am just start using linex i don't know how it works. but it seems quit interesting. sir i try to use my mobile broadband to run internet in fedora, but don't know how . sir please help me

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