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recommended practice for python 3.11 on F39
by Ranjan Maitra 18 Nov '23

18 Nov '23

So, it turns out that there is no tensorflow for Python 3.12, which is what is shipped out with F39. I tried to downgrade my python using sudo dnf downgrade python --releasever=38 that downgrades a huge bunch of things, including important components like rpm. However, dnf install/update pretty much anything gives a segmentation fault after that. $ sudo dnf update --exclude=python\* Last metadata expiration check: 2:37:29 ago on Fri 17 Nov 2023 05:50:32 PM CST. Segmentation fault Staying within the dnf system, is there a better way to keep the older version of python around? Many thanks, Ranjan

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upgrade f38->f39 via discover?
by Neal Becker 18 Nov '23

18 Nov '23

I've always upgraded manually using dnf system-upgrade. I have a laptop running F38 belonging to my wife. She got a notification, I presume from "discover", saying F39 upgrade is available. I've never tried an upgrade this way. Just wondering if anyone has tried this upgrade route and what was their experience?

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Why Fedora/RHEL/CentOS Stream is not boot from other Linux district?
by fedoraUser 2023 18 Nov '23

18 Nov '23

Fedora/CentOS/RHEL boot only from this grub. When install Fedora and CentOS, CentOS no boot from Fedora boot loader, Fedora no boot From CentOS boot loader. Why?

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LibreOffice Base to MariaDB?
by Greg Woods 18 Nov '23

18 Nov '23

I remember setting this up quite some time ago, but now I have a new machine running F38. I can find some documentation for the old very tedious procedure to get this to work; it still does work on an older machine where I had done this. But I notice now that Fedora might already have some of the required packages, such as mariadb-connector-odbc-3.1.19-1.fc38.x86_64 and unixODBC-2.3.11-2.fc38.x86_64 . Would these packages work? Has anyone here already gotten LibreOfficeBase to talk to a MariaDB database on Fedora 38? If so can you point me to a place that describes the process for getting it working? Thanks in advance, --Greg

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Tip: default printer
by ToddAndMargo 17 Nov '23

17 Nov '23

Hi All, This is my keeper file on the default printer. Hope this helps someone else. -T Exactly what purpose does the "server default" printer serve? Is it even possible to send the CUPS server a print job with no printer specified? AAAAHHHH!!!!!! CUPS: manually correct the default printer Reference(s): https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Print_Settings_with_CUPS https://github.com/OpenPrinting/cups/issues/818 CUPS Web UI (https://127.0.0.1:631) fails to update /etc/cups/lpoptions to a new default printer. Note that this is on purpose, The Web UI's default printer is the server's default. Not the local (client) computer's default. The local computer's defaults are found in: user: ~/.cups/lpoptions global (if not user default): /etc/cups/lpoptions Fix action: First, list installed printers: $ lpstat -p printer Cups-PDF is idle. ... printer HLL2300D ... printer HLL2300D_ManualTray ... To set the system defualt: # vi /etc/cups/lpoptions Default Printer_Name_from_lpstat_above # systemctl restart cups To set the user's default: $ lpoptions -d Printer_Name_from_lpstat_above To double check: $ lpstat -d system default destination: Cups-PDF Note: this is the local user default, not the system default. reported under: lpstat gives incorrect wording for the default printer https://github.com/OpenPrinting/cups/issues/819 Example files involved: System: # cat /etc/cups/lpoptions Default HLL2300D User: $ cat ~/.cups/lpoptions Default Cups-PDF

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Desktop scaling not working on F39 + X1 Carbon 3rd gen
by Frederic Muller 17 Nov '23

17 Nov '23

Hi! Upgraded from F38 and trying to get 150% scaling as 100% is too small and 200% too big. Both |gsettings reset org.gnome.mutter experimental-features or gsettings set org.gnome.mutter experimental-features "['scale-monitor-framebuffer']" and logging out do nothing. It used to work a few years ago. Any idea how to fix this? Thank you. Fred |

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Obscure rsyslog question on remote logging
by Tom Horsley 17 Nov '23

17 Nov '23

I've got an old PC running Truenas as a local server for backups, videos, etc. I've got another PC I consider my "main" system running rsyslog. On this PC I have tried (mostly successfully) to direct remote syslog messages from the Truenas system to logfiles in a subdirectory on my main system. This gibberish in my main system's rsyslog.conf seems to do the trick: # Log incoming message from remote systems here $template DynamicFile,"/var/log/loghost/%HOSTNAME%/%syslogfacility-text%.log" :hostname, contains, "nast" *.* -?DynamicFile Most remote log message do indeed get redirected to the subdirectory as expected, but SMART messages like these still wind up in /var/log/messages on my main system rather than in the subdirectory. Example: Nov 16 16:16:51 nast 1 2023-11-16T16:16:51.564170-05:00 nast.my.lan smartd 1501 - - Device: /dev/ada0, SMART Usage Attribute: 194 Temperature_Celsius changed from 58 to 57 Most other messages wind up down in the subdirectory as expected, like this: Nov 16 19:15:00 nast 1 2023-11-16T19:15:00.012359-05:00 nast.my.lan /usr/sbin/cron 16239 - - (root) CMD (/usr/libexec/atrun) Anyone understand remote logging enough to provide any hints why this is happening? It is clearly not all that critical, but it confuses me.

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emacs is hopeless
by Tom Horsley 17 Nov '23

17 Nov '23

I reported strange things with emacs earlier, but I thought it might be something wrong with my partially configured system. Nope, it is just plain busted. I've added this bug report: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2249379 I guess I'll have to try building from the fedora 38 source rpm on fedora 39 and see if I can get a working emacs that way.

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upgrade packages problem
by GianPiero Puccioni 17 Nov '23

17 Nov '23

Hi, During a normal upgrade (F38 with KDE on a Dell G15 Laptop) I got this errors: Skipping packages with conflicts: qt5-qtbase x86_64 5.15.11-3.fc38 updates 3.6 M Skipping packages with broken dependencies: kf5-akonadi-se x86_64 23.08.1-2.fc38 updates 2.5 M I waited for more than a week to see if it was a problem with mirrors or something missing but they are still there. I don't know what those packages are for or if they are important (or if it is the same problem or the errors are unrelated) so I am a little worried about updating anyway. Any info on this problem? G

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How to force removal of protected package?
by Jeffrey Walton 17 Nov '23

17 Nov '23

Hi Everyone, I had a dnf-system-upgrade go sideways. It was due, in part, due to a Python3 install in /usr/local. The other part had to do with the machine going to sleep while I was ssh'd into the machine. I now want to get rid of GNOME and use the machine from the command line. $ sudo dnf group remove gnome-desktop Warning: Module or Group 'gnome-desktop' is not installed. Dependencies resolved. Nothing to do. Complete! $ sudo dnf group remove @gnome-desktop Warning: Module or Group '@gnome-desktop' is not installed. Dependencies resolved. Nothing to do. Complete! $ sudo dnf group remove gnome-desktop-environment Warning: Module or Group 'gnome-desktop-environment' is not installed. Dependencies resolved. Nothing to do. Complete! $ sudo dnf remove gnome* Error: Problem: The operation would result in removing the following protected package s: gnome-shell (try to add '--skip-broken' to skip uninstallable packages) I've read the dnf(8) man page, but I don't see how to remove a protected package. How do I force the removal of a protected package? Thanks in advance.

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