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Upgrade to F39: Disk Requirements: At least 5633 MB more space needed on the / filesystem.
by Paul Smith 08 Nov '23

08 Nov '23

Dear All, While running dnf system-upgrade download --releasever=39 to upgrade Fedora, I get the following error: Error Summary ------------- Disk Requirements: At least 5633 MB more space needed on the / filesystem. Could you please help me? Thanks in advance, Paul

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[Testdays] Call for Fedora Linux 40 testing events
by Sumantro Mukherjee 08 Nov '23

08 Nov '23

Hi Fedora users, developers, and friends! It's time to start thinking about Test Days for Fedora 40. For anyone who isn't aware, a Test Day is an event usually focused around IRC for interaction and a Wiki page for instructions and results, with the aim being to get a bunch of interested users and developers together to test a specific feature or area of the distribution. You can run a Test Day on just about anything for which it would be useful to do some fairly focused testing in 'real time' with a group of testers; it doesn't have to be code, for instance, we often run Test Days for l10n/i18n topics. For more information on Test Days, see https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Test_Days . Anyone who wants to can host their own Test Day, or you can request that the QA group helps you out with organization or any combination of the two. To propose a Test Day, just file a ticket in fedora-qa pagure - here's an example https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/issue/624 . For instructions on hosting a Test Day, see https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/SOP_Test_Day_management . You can see the schedule at https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/issues?tags=test+days . There are many slots open right now. Consider the development schedule, though, in deciding when you want to run your Test Day - for some topics you may want to avoid the time before the Beta release or the time after the feature freeze or the Final Freeze. We normally aim to schedule Test Days on Thursdays; however, if you want to run a series of related Test Days, it's often a good idea to do something like Tuesday / Wednesday / Thursday of the same week (this is how we usually run the X Test Week, for instance). If all the Thursday slots fill up but more people want to run Test Days, we will open up Tuesday slots as overflows. And finally, if you really want to run a Test Day in a specific time frame due to the development schedule, but the Thursday slot for that week is full, we can add a slot on another day. We're flexible! Just put in your ticket the date or time frame you'd like, and we'll figure it out from there. If you don't want to run your own Test Day, but you are willing to help with another, feel free to join one or more of already accepted Test Days: GNOME Test Day* i18n Test Day* Kernel Test Week(s)* Upgrade Test Day* IoT Test Week* Cloud Test Day* Fedora CoreOS Test Week* And don't be afraid, there are a lot of more slots available for your own Test Day! [*] These are the test days we run generally to make sure everything is working fine, the dates get announced as we move into the release cycle. If you have any questions about the Test Day process, please don't hesitate to contact me or any member of the Fedora QA team on test at lists.fedoraproject.org or in #fedora-qa on IRC. Thanks! -- //sumantro Fedora QE TRIED AND PERSONALLY TESTED, ERGO TRUSTED

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freaking TFTP
by lejeczek 08 Nov '23

08 Nov '23

Hi guys. cannot get a client to get anything from 'in.tftp' server? Connection seems to get established, _tcpdump_ shows: ... 13:13:08.331277 IP 10.3.1.100.35176 > whale.mine.priv.tftp: TFTP, length 19, RRQ "zabbix.zip" octet 13:13:13.331324 IP 10.3.1.100.35176 > whale.mine.priv.tftp: TFTP, length 19, RRQ "zabbix.zip" octet ... journal log for tftp.service, so on the servers, shows: ... tftpd: read(ack): No route to host ... any & all thoughts on how troubleshoot & fix this are much appreciated. many thanks, L.

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NVidia Tesla trouble in both F38 & F39
by Felix Miata 08 Nov '23

08 Nov '23

3 different Tesla cards involved so far: GT210 (not mine) plus G98 and GT218 mine. Without the workaround, screen locks in black except for a few random portions of 80x25 mode characters in upper left. Bad kernels include 6.4.16, 6.5.9 & 6.5.10. OK without workaround: 6.3.12. Which kernels work OK without workaround seem to vary with which NVidia/PC combination. These are slow booting oldsters with no more than 2 CPU threads (here at least). Worse, the G98 is a PCI card, not PCIe. :( <https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-desktop-74/kernel-6-5-9-gt21…> has the original details. Known workaround so far here is to include vga=791 on kernel cmdline. Not yet tried on Fermis, and not yet tried forced inclusion of nouveau.ko in initrd. From one of 3 PCs involved: # inxi -GSaz --vs --zl --hostname inxi 3.3.31-00 (2023-11-02) System: Host: g5eas Kernel: 6.5.10-300.fc39.x86_64 arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 2.40-13.fc39 clocksource: tsc available: hpet,acpi_pm parameters: ro root=LABEL=<filter> noresume selinux=0 audit=0 ipv6.disable=1 net.ifnames=0 plymouth.enable=0 consoleblank=0 mitigations=off vga=791 Desktop: KDE Plasma v: 5.27.9 tk: Qt v: 5.15.11 wm: kwin_x11 vt: 7 dm: 1: KDM 2: XDM Distro: Fedora release 39 (Thirty Nine) Graphics: Device-1: NVIDIA G98 [GeForce 8400 GS Rev. 2] vendor: PNY driver: nouveau v: kernel non-free: series: 340.xx status: legacy (EOL~2019-12-xx) last: release: 340.108 kernel: 5.4 xorg: 1.20 arch: Tesla process: 40-80nm built: 2006-2013 pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1 link-max: lanes: 16 ports: active: DVI-I-1,VGA-1 empty: none bus-ID: 0b:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:06e4 class-ID: 0300 Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.20.14 with: Xwayland v: 23.2.2 compositor: kwin_x11 driver: X: loaded: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa dri: nouveau gpu: nouveau display-ID: :0 screens: 1 Screen-1: 0 s-res: 3600x1200 s-dpi: 120 s-size: 762x254mm (30.00x10.00") s-diag: 803mm (31.62") Monitor-1: DVI-I-1 pos: primary,left model: NEC EA243WM serial: <filter> built: 2011 res: 1920x1200 hz: 60 dpi: 94 gamma: 1.2 size: 519x324mm (20.43x12.76") diag: 612mm (24.1") ratio: 16:10 modes: max: 1920x1200 min: 640x480 Monitor-2: VGA-1 pos: right model: Dell P2213 serial: <filter> built: 2012 res: 1680x1050 hz: 60 dpi: 90 gamma: 1.2 size: 473x296mm (18.62x11.65") diag: 558mm (22") ratio: 16:10 modes: max: 1680x1050 min: 720x400 API: EGL v: 1.5 hw: drv: nvidia nouveau platforms: device: 0 egl: 1.4 drv: nouveau device: 1 drv: swrast surfaceless: egl: 1.4 drv: nouveau x11: egl: 1.4 drv: nouveau inactive: gbm,wayland API: OpenGL v: 4.5 compat-v: 3.3 vendor: mesa v: 23.2.1 glx-v: 1.4 direct-render: yes renderer: NV98 device-ID: 10de:06e4 memory: 483.4 MiB unified: no # -- Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion, based on faith, not based on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata

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Cups shared print now showing in Windows
by ToddAndMargo 08 Nov '23

08 Nov '23

Hi All, Fedora 38 cups-2.4.7-1.fc38.x86_64 cups-lpd-2.4.7-1.fc38.x86_64 My old printer broke, so I had to replace it. I removed the old printer from cups and added the new printer. I set the new printer to network share (and it does over LPD). /etc/printcap: # This file was automatically generated by cupsd(8) from the # /etc/cups/printers.conf file. All changes to this file # will be lost. HLL2300D|HLL2300D:rm=server.acme.local:rp=HLL2300D: Cups-PDF|Cups-PDF:rm=server.acme.local:rp=Cups-PDF: "Cups-PDF" shows in the Windows 10 "add printer" dialog, but my new HLL2300D does not. I have cups-lpd installed, so I just did a manual create port lpd and my new printer works fine from Windows 10. But, why can Windows 10's "Add Printer" dialog find it? Perplexed, -T

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Fedora 39 released
by Jeffrey Walton 07 Nov '23

07 Nov '23

Hi Everyone, Fedora 39 was released today. Instructions for the upgrade are located at <https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/quick-docs/upgrading-fedora-offline/>. Jeff

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F39 Update: Yawn
by Garry T. Williams 07 Nov '23

07 Nov '23

On Tuesday, 7 November 2023 08:56:05 EST Matthew Miller wrote: > Fedora Linux 39 is now officially available. I updated three systems this morning without a hitch: headless server, laptop, and workstation. All Dell hardware. Thank you, Matthew and all of Fedora contributors! -- Garry T. Williams

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Web page doesn't display (Trouble with javascript?)
by Jonathan Ryshpan 07 Nov '23

07 Nov '23

Can anyone display this page: https://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/SEgoogle/SEgoogle2001/SE2024Apr08Tgoogle.html The text claims the page contains a map of the April 2024 eclipse, but no such thing appears on the screen. System Info: Firefox 119.0 (64-bit) Operating System: Fedora Linux 38 KDE Plasma Version: 5.27.8 KDE Frameworks Version: 5.110.0 Qt Version: 5.15.10 Kernel Version: 6.5.9-200.fc38.x86_64 (64-bit) Graphics Platform: X11 Processors: 8 × Intel® Core™ i7-4790K CPU @ 4.00GHz Memory: 15.5 GiB of RAM Graphics Processor: Mesa Intel® HD Graphics 4600 Manufacturer: ASUS -- Sincerely Jonathan Ryshpan <jonrysh(a)pacbell.net> I've learned that you can tell a lot about a person by the way they handle these three things: a rainy day, lost luggage, and tangled Christmas tree lights. --Maya Angelou

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thunderbird: duplicated messages downloaded
by fedora＠eyal.emu.id.au 07 Nov '23

07 Nov '23

[resend from correct email] F38, tb 115.3.2 (64-bit) The server is configured as pop3 with the option to leave the messages on the server. After clicking "Get Messages" I often get no reaction for a while, and click again in a few seconds. In this case, after the new messages are downloaded, a second download starts and the same messages are fetched again. Normally, only new messages are downloaded in this situation (so none on a second download), as it should be. If I download from another client then I will get these messages again, which is OK as each client should know what it already has. I have one "main" client which downloads messages, removing them from the server. When away from the main server, I often collect messages using other clients, leaving the messages on the server. This is when the problem shows. -- Eyal at Home (fedora(a)eyal.emu.id.au)

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Time to replace SSD disk?
by Javier Perez 07 Nov '23

07 Nov '23

Hi. My boot SSD was purchased on May, 2015. It is a Crucial 128GB one. Cockpit is showing me an error of /sys/firmware/efi/efivars 0 free and smartctl is telling me the following: ==== beginning of SMARTCTL INFO ======= === START OF INFORMATION SECTION === Model Family: Crucial/Micron Client SSDs Device Model: Crucial_CT128MX100SSD1 Serial Number: 15030E6E5A80 LU WWN Device Id: 5 00a075 10e6e5a80 Firmware Version: MU01 User Capacity: 128,035,676,160 bytes [128 GB] Sector Sizes: 512 bytes logical, 4096 bytes physical Rotation Rate: Solid State Device Form Factor: 2.5 inches TRIM Command: Available, deterministic, zeroed Device is: In smartctl database 7.3/5528 ATA Version is: ACS-2, ATA8-ACS T13/1699-D revision 6 SATA Version is: SATA 3.1, 6.0 Gb/s (current: 6.0 Gb/s) Local Time is: Sat Nov 4 17:38:59 2023 EST SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability. SMART support is: Enabled === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION === SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED General SMART Values: Offline data collection status: (0x84) Offline data collection activity was suspended by an interrupting command from host. Auto Offline Data Collection: Enabled. Self-test execution status: ( 0) The previous self-test routine completed without error or no self-test has ever been run. Total time to complete Offline data collection: ( 130) seconds. Offline data collection capabilities: (0x7b) SMART execute Offline immediate. Auto Offline data collection on/off support. Suspend Offline collection upon new command. Offline surface scan supported. Self-test supported. Conveyance Self-test supported. Selective Self-test supported. SMART capabilities: (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering power-saving mode. Supports SMART auto save timer. Error logging capability: (0x01) Error logging supported. General Purpose Logging supported. Short self-test routine recommended polling time: ( 2) minutes. Extended self-test routine recommended polling time: ( 3) minutes. Conveyance self-test routine recommended polling time: ( 3) minutes. SCT capabilities: (0x0035) SCT Status supported. SCT Feature Control supported. SCT Data Table supported. SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16 Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds: ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x002f 100 100 000 Pre-fail Always - 31 5 Reallocate_NAND_Blk_Cnt 0x0033 100 100 000 Pre-fail Always - 0 9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 74107 12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 241 171 Program_Fail_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0 172 Erase_Fail_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0 173 Ave_Block-Erase_Count 0x0032 097 097 000 Old_age Always - 108 174 Unexpect_Power_Loss_Ct 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 176 180 Unused_Reserve_NAND_Blk 0x0033 000 000 000 Pre-fail Always - 1036 183 SATA_Interfac_Downshift 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0 184 Error_Correction_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0 187 Reported_Uncorrect 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0 194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 053 049 000 Old_age Always - 47 (Min/Max 22/51) 196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 16 197 Current_Pending_ECC_Cnt 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0 198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0030 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 0 199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0 202 Percent_Lifetime_Remain 0x0031 097 097 000 Pre-fail Offline - 3 206 Write_Error_Rate 0x000e 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0 210 Success_RAIN_Recov_Cnt 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0 246 Total_LBAs_Written 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 23588083829 247 Host_Program_Page_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 738387194 248 FTL_Program_Page_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 172332261 SMART Error Log Version: 1 No Errors Logged SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1 Num Test_Description Status Remaining LifeTime(hours) LBA_of_first_error # 1 Vendor (0xff) Completed without error 00% 8509 - # 2 Vendor (0xff) Completed without error 00% 8490 - # 3 Vendor (0xff) Completed without error 00% 8385 - # 4 Vendor (0xff) Completed without error 00% 8333 - # 5 Vendor (0xff) Completed without error 00% 8251 - # 6 Vendor (0xff) Completed without error 00% 8146 - # 7 Vendor (0xff) Completed without error 00% 8092 - # 8 Vendor (0xff) Completed without error 00% 7843 - # 9 Vendor (0xff) Completed without error 00% 7765 - #10 Vendor (0xff) Completed without error 00% 7721 - #11 Vendor (0xff) Completed without error 00% 7607 - #12 Vendor (0xff) Completed without error 00% 7571 - #13 Vendor (0xff) Completed without error 00% 7535 - #14 Vendor (0xff) Completed without error 00% 7433 - #15 Vendor (0xff) Completed without error 00% 7193 - #16 Vendor (0xff) Completed without error 00% 7156 - #17 Vendor (0xff) Completed without error 00% 7121 - #18 Vendor (0xff) Completed without error 00% 7086 - #19 Vendor (0xff) Completed without error 00% 7050 - #20 Vendor (0xff) Completed without error 00% 7011 - #21 Vendor (0xff) Completed without error 00% 6971 - SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1 SPAN MIN_LBA MAX_LBA CURRENT_TEST_STATUS 1 0 0 Completed [00% left] (56994816-57060351) 2 0 0 Not_testing 3 0 0 Not_testing 4 0 0 Not_testing 5 0 0 Not_testing Selective self-test flags (0x0): After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk. If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay. The above only provides legacy SMART information - try 'smartctl ======== END OF SMARTCTL ==== Is it time to say good by and replace this disk? Should I get a larger one? It has the boot info and operating system. Thanks for your insights -- ------------------------------ /\_/\ |O O| pepebuho(a)gmail.com ~~~~ Javier Perez ~~~~ While the night runs ~~~~ toward the day... m m Pepebuho watches from his high perch.

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