users February 2023

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Shift+PrintScreen gone with F36?
by Frederic Muller 27 Feb '23

27 Feb '23

Hi! Something I use almost daily and.. nothing happens now. Is there a replacement shortcut or a way to enable it back? Thank you. Fred

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Taking better advantage of BTRFS
by John Mellor 26 Feb '23

26 Feb '23

Ok, I'm anticipating a firestorm of BS responses on this, but here goes anyway. We've now had BTRFS as the default filesystem for some time in Fedora. However, there has been almost nothing done to take advantage of its capabilities. This leads to some obvious questions about future work: 1) When are we going to see removal of the EXT2 /boot partition? It is no longer required, as the boot process has been able to use BTRFS for years now. 2) When are we going to see timeshifting tools built into the desktop, ala Solaris? That's incredibly useful for developers. 3) The existing Windows-like update mechanism is undesirable. It solves a non-existent problem on filesystems with inodes. Like all Unix-like systems, even Ubuntu does not require this. The ability to snapshot means that the weird reasoning that requires 2 reboots to install virtually all update packages is no longer required under any circumstances. When is the software update mechanism getting a fundamental redesign? 4) When is a standard backup mechanism that takes advantage of snapshotting going to be in the distro? The published backup packages do not seem to be aware of the better capabilities available in BTRFS. Wrapping a few CLI tools in a GUI seems like it should be obvious, maybe 200 lines of shellscript or less. 5) If you encrypt your filesystems, the BTRFS built-in encryption mechanism is not used. Why not? LUKS is still in use, even though that is more complicated and slower. I note the possible ability to encrypt being added if F38, but it seems like baby steps when a general solution is already in the code. 6) Compression is not the default. Why not? SSDs are 10x slower and disks are 100x slower than the processors of even 10 years ago, so this omission is slowing the system down. 7) Keep the last 3 update snapshots, not just the last 3 kernels. This would keep backout scenarios a lot more consistent and functional. If I look at the changes coming in Fedora 38, I am disappointed in the lack of innovation. All of these items should be in there to make the system cleaner, better and faster. Most of these asks have already been in SUSE for many years now, and are well debugged and understood. Fedora is supposed to be leading the way at the edge, not way behind it. Or am I missing something about the politics of the distro?

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Unable to login after fedora re-install
by Geoffrey Leach 26 Feb '23

26 Feb '23

After moving from F37 to F36 and re-installing a user directory (with dot files) I discover that login for that user fails. No messages in /var/log, no error message. I assume that the problem is somewhere in one of the dot files. Any suggestions? Thanks.

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CentOS8 VM
by Robert McBroom 25 Feb '23

25 Feb '23

Installed CentOS8 on a VM from CentOS-8.1.1911-x86_64-dvd1.iso Trying to update it gives Failed to download metadata for repo 'appstream' Error: Failed to download metadata for repo 'appstream' I have the rpm's on a local repository but disabling the repos has no effect on the error and will no proceed with the update. is there a fix?

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Speech to text software in a Fedora Linux environment
by Max Pyziur 24 Feb '23

24 Feb '23

Is there any speech-to-text software usable in a Fedora Linux environment? Much thanks, Max Pyziur pyz(a)brama.com

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vncviewer to new tightvnc 2.8.75
by Michael D. Setzer II 24 Feb '23

24 Feb '23

Just tested connecting to new tightvnc vncserver 2.8.75 on Windows 7 and windows 11 machines on network, and after enter password, it just drops to command prompt with CConn: Using pixel format depth 24 (32bpp) little-endian rgb888 CConn: End of stream If wrong password entered, it loops to ask for password again. So, viewer seems to talk to server, but then something goes wrong and disconnects with no error message I see, and tried a few options, but nothing made change. Does work fine from windows 7 to windows 11, so not sure if it is a compatibility issue? the 2.8.63 version has worked mostly fine in past. Connects fine, and usually is fine, but accasionally would stop updating screen, but close and reconnect would fix that. Issue is have a remote machine 7 timezone a way that has 2.8.63, and was looking to update to the 2.8.75, but if it doesn't work, can't just reinstall old version? 2.8.75 just came out. Have sent messages to both Tigervnc and Tightvnc lists. Tried strace vncviewer but didn't notice an error message other than resource not available and fonts not found?? But didn't seem to be terminal? Thanks. +------------------------------------------------------------+ Michael D. Setzer II - Computer Science Instructor (Retired) mailto:mikes@guam.net mailto:msetzerii@gmail.com Guam - Where America's Day Begins G4L Disk Imaging Project maintainer http://sourceforge.net/projects/g4l/ +------------------------------------------------------------+

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systemd tmp.mount vs. just /etc/fstab
by Robert Nichols 23 Feb '23

23 Feb '23

If I want to use a tmpfs for /tmp, I can just enable the systemd tmp.mount unit and get the default size limit of 1/2 of memory. If I want to reduce that limit, I either have to fiddle with a systemd override or else put a line in /etc/fstab just as in the days before systemd, and the systemd unit will respect the size option there. But, that line in /etc/fstab can do the job on its own, so what's the point of enabling the tmp.mount unit? -- Bob Nichols "NOSPAM" is really part of my email address. Do NOT delete it.

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how to create a Fedora 37 LiveCD without a desktop environment and with window manager
by Ranjan Maitra 23 Feb '23

23 Feb '23

Dear friends, I have been trying to build a LiveCD with a DE and with a window manager. Specifically, I was thinking that I could have startx go into starting the window manager. However, I can not quite figure out how to handle this. Does anyone have experience with doing this? The notes available on LiveCD at https://github.com/livecd-tools/livecd-tools only discuss a minimal LiveCD or a full-fledged one, and indeed the minimal configuration there does not even do anything (I only get Troubleshoot). But in any case, that is not the point. Any suggestions on how I can use startx instead of a login display manager? Many thanks, Ranjan

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Start Screen Saver but Don't Lock Screen
by Jonathan Ryshpan 23 Feb '23

23 Feb '23

How can I set my system up to start a screen saver after (say) 20 minutes, but never lock the screen? System info: Operating System: Fedora Linux 37 KDE Plasma Version: 5.26.5 KDE Frameworks Version: 5.103.0 Qt Version: 5.15.8 Kernel Version: 6.1.11-200.fc37.x86_64 (64-bit) Graphics Platform: Wayland Processors: 2 × Intel® Pentium® CPU G2030 @ 3.00GHz Memory: 7.6 GiB of RAM Graphics Processor: Mesa Intel® HD Graphics 2500 Manufacturer: Dell Inc. Product Name: Inspiron 660s -- Thanks - Jonathan Ryshpan <jonrysh(a)pacbell.net> Ring the bells that still can ring Forget your perfect offering There is a crack ... in everything That's how the light gets in. -- Leonard Cohen - Anthem

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nmcli problems
by Bill Cunningham 21 Feb '23

21 Feb '23

Well I was finally able to get the right cli option into the cli to activate the wifi and I got no wifi found. Wifi was showing up with the rest of the connections, I tried another command and got this, STATE CONNECTIVITY WIFI-HW WIFI WWAN-HW WWAN disconnected none missing enabled missing enabled Something is not right, I have no idea what to do. Is this a systemd issue? What does this mean? B

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